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Avvy
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:07:01 -
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N00B-SAIB0T wrote:In regards to the Dev Blog "Exploring The Character Bazaar & Skill Trading", they touched on something important:
"That part really hits home for me because when I made that jump from 15mil SP to 33mil SP I went from being called GÇÿTurbo DinosaurGÇÖ to being called GÇÿKil2GÇÖ. Puke. I also found out, after the fact, that Kil2 had been involved in some kind of corp theft which meant I had to deal with negative reputation issues for years afterwards."
They hinted that maybe there might be a feature where you could change a character's name with the larger SP and Character Bazaar changes. I'm assuming it would be the buyer of a new character during a character transfer sale. Unfortunately, the above sentences are the only piece of information we have in relation to name changes (in that blog, that is). I think we need more information on this as name changing in EVE would be a big thing.
One abuse that I could see from this is a scammer that committed a scam and can simply transfer the scamming character over to another of his/her accounts and wipe the name clean with a new name. I'm indifferent about that so it doesn't bother me but I think that's worth pointing out.
I hope we can get some more information on this. Seems pretty big.
The history is part of the character. When you buy the character you are also buying the history of that character and all the baggage that goes with it.
So when you buy the character the history should stay intact.
As for changing the name I don't see any reason why you can't, all what needs to happen is a note in the history to say what the old name was.
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Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.14 12:01:52 -
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Dyllan Ma'tar wrote:Avvy wrote:
As for changing the name I don't see any reason why you can't, all what needs to happen is a note in the history to say what the old name was.
Because that would threaten the easy money of established players. I'm sure a few also have built up a self image based on EVE as being a "hard core" game. So this probably threatens those few on an irrational and personal level. I'll say it again, the only difference from a name change service and the character bazaar is investment in time, money, and difficulty of acquisition. In principle they are the same.
You can change your name easily and legally in the real world, so why not in Eve?
All you end up with is a piece of paper stating that you changed it, with your former name and new name and some signatures including witnesses signatures.
So having a note in the history isn't really any different. |
Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.14 12:53:28 -
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Moac Tor wrote:You should be able to wipe your characters identity.... but you lose 20% of your total SP in the process.
On top of the PLEX you pay to the CCP that should be enough of a deterrent to stop abuse.
One thing I really don't want to see is they implement this and make it traceable, it is annoying enough already to scroll through corp history when trying to PvP, let alone a full history of the various names a character has had.
Also if they do this then they can completely scrap the terrible skill trading proposal.
Definitely not, the history should stay intact.
Changing a name is one thing, wiping out its history is another. |
Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.14 13:00:57 -
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Moac Tor wrote:Avvy wrote:Moac Tor wrote:You should be able to wipe your characters identity.... but you lose 20% of your total SP in the process.
On top of the PLEX you pay to the CCP that should be enough of a deterrent to stop abuse.
One thing I really don't want to see is they implement this and make it traceable, it is annoying enough already to scroll through corp history when trying to PvP, let alone a full history of the various names a character has had.
Also if they do this then they can completely scrap the terrible skill trading proposal. Definitely not, the history should stay intact. Changing a name is one thing, wiping out its history is another. Like I said losing 20% is enough of a deterrent to stop abuse. It is effectively a different character in practical purposes with such a big chunk of SP being removed. I was hoping it would register that my proposal was pretty harsh against name change, you didn't seem to understand that though.
Can you change your own history?
In witness protection they may give you a false one, but that doesn't mean your own history has altered. |
Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.14 14:05:56 -
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The purpose of the name change I've been talking about, is so that a player may alter the name, because they don't like the name the character has.
It's not to try and remove itself from its past deeds.
Hence why a note of the old name needs to be in its history.
What would the cost be, looking at other things probably 1 PLEX. |
Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.14 20:14:47 -
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Vilar Diin wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Well the op clearly needs to train "reading comprehension V " pronto, but that aside I'll chirp in again in favour of the notion of changing a name with the caveat that the old name is easily accessible and it has no impact on standings,watchlists ect ec.
Yeah yeah, conciquences and all that but where it really matters you will check to see any previous aliases It's simple enough just add a tab entitled "known Aliases". It would actually add more depth to the game since people adopt different names for various reason in real life.
Why add a tab, when it could be just one line in the history (per name)? Most characters will probably never have a name change. |
Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.15 03:22:09 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Any name change makes it basically impossible to know who is who from local.
This is bad. Even if history is kept it still impacts on actual game play.
I would not be against a 'nickname' being added to the character sheet and people having the option to display nicknames if they wanted to, while the default remains 'Registered name'.
That would allow 'changing names' without actually affecting the game systems like a real name change would.
So, you're worried some bad guy will change their name and you won't recognise them in local.
So some guy will use a PLEX and as soon as he did anything bad he would have to use another PLEX.
Would it really be worth his costs to do that?
They could always add a restriction so that there was a set amount of time between the change and when you could change it again. |
Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.15 14:52:24 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:Choices have consequences, if you chose a silly name then too bad. If you chose to buy a character with a silly name then too bad. If you don't like the result of your choices then blame yourself.
I don't totally disagree with you.
Even in the real world they recognize the need for some people to be able to change their name. |
Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.11.15 19:52:22 -
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Moac Tor wrote:Avvy wrote:Moac Tor wrote:Avvy wrote:Moac Tor wrote:You should be able to wipe your characters identity.... but you lose 20% of your total SP in the process.
On top of the PLEX you pay to the CCP that should be enough of a deterrent to stop abuse.
One thing I really don't want to see is they implement this and make it traceable, it is annoying enough already to scroll through corp history when trying to PvP, let alone a full history of the various names a character has had.
Also if they do this then they can completely scrap the terrible skill trading proposal. Definitely not, the history should stay intact. Changing a name is one thing, wiping out its history is another. Like I said losing 20% is enough of a deterrent to stop abuse. It is effectively a different character in practical purposes with such a big chunk of SP being removed. I was hoping it would register that my proposal was pretty harsh against name change, you didn't seem to understand that though. Can you change your own history? In witness protection they may give you a false one, but that doesn't mean your own history has altered. We are in a super futuristic sci fi universe in which we can reincarnate ourselves into different bodies, so is it implausible that we have no way to change our name or identity? I have nothing against name change or even an identity wipe in principle, I think it adds another nice twist to the universe. But I wouldn't want it to be easy as the possibilities of abuse are obvious, and so for that reason I would only be happy if you lose 20% of your total SP pool in the process. That being said if someone really wants to change their identity and have a new start then why not let them instead of having to start a new character from scratch? Also this discussion will be irrelevant if CCP implements the terrible skill trading proposal they announced as you will be able to simply buy a new character and train them up with skill packets with no trace of your previous identity.
Problem is some people are already paranoid enough as it is. Do you really want to make them more paranoid? |
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