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Marilyn Maulerant
Throng of the Drone Amalgamate The Ditanian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.30 13:09:20 -
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Otso Bakarti wrote:Kyle Tawate wrote:I picked the second name that EVE gave me, thinking it was a made up sci-fi name. Now I realise it is a really obscure Bollywood second name that sounds like "****".
Thanks CCP for forcing me to stay with your trap names. "Forcing" you? Nobody forced you to do anything. You should be forced to watch a Bollywood marathon so you learn the definition of that word. I know a guy who named his dog "Dog", and his cat "Cat". He was about to name his hamster "Hamster", but Cat ate it.
I haven't though about this for a long time, but many (35-ish) years ago, we had a dog named D O G pronounced "dee oh gee"
LOL, Thanks for the memory...
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Nate Hill
Rocket No. 9
45
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Posted - 2015.10.30 15:08:07 -
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Jeremiah Saken wrote:Nate Hill wrote:Serenity's had this service for almost a decade. Changing name costs about 15 bucks equivalent to two PLEX on Serenity. Any other differences? Before permanent skin system was deployed Serenity's already sold manually permanent skin blueprints which could be replenished by submitting a petition. |
Black Panpher
Middle-aged pony tail
4734
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Posted - 2015.10.30 16:59:56 -
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FINISH HIM! |
ThisandThat Whatever
Moosearmy I N G L O R I O U S
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Posted - 2015.10.30 17:44:46 -
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Nate Hill wrote:Jeremiah Saken wrote:Nate Hill wrote:Serenity's had this service for almost a decade. Changing name costs about 15 bucks equivalent to two PLEX on Serenity. Any other differences? Before permanent skin system was deployed Serenity's already sold manually permanent skin blueprints which could be replenished by submitting a petition. Players on Serenity will be given unallocated skill points if the maintenance exceeds the time announcement says. And the second most significant disadvantage and difference is that the limitation of skill queue still exists. Serenity is the paradise of RMT and macros. Every alliance has a lot of teams mining and ratting with macros. And they seldom get banned It's notorious.
Just looked at Serenity's online pop, 7.500ish compared to 26.400ish TQ, quite backwater. Players over there will NOT play a game if they cant RMT, bot and stuff alike, CCP has to let them get away with it and give them a few more concessions or lose. Cultural thing, i guess. They would go back to WoW gold farming in a blink.
Oh, wait, they're probably all sleeping right now. So that's 7500 bots? |
Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services The WINGSPAN Logo Alliance
577
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Posted - 2015.10.30 19:10:19 -
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Make it cost one PLEX and keep an Alias History just like Employment History.
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Opertone
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
334
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Posted - 2015.10.30 20:14:19 -
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NO name changes !!!
only to CItizen 00014124
Also, if you post your naked pictures in your bio, you can change your name to
DAWG 00099341
This post sums up why the 'best' work with DCM inc.
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Nate Hill
Rocket No. 9
45
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Posted - 2015.10.31 00:33:16 -
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ThisandThat Whatever wrote:Nate Hill wrote:Jeremiah Saken wrote:Nate Hill wrote:Serenity's had this service for almost a decade. Changing name costs about 15 bucks equivalent to two PLEX on Serenity. Any other differences? Before permanent skin system was deployed Serenity's already sold manually permanent skin blueprints which could be replenished by submitting a petition. Players on Serenity will be given unallocated skill points if the maintenance exceeds the time announcement says. And the second most significant disadvantage and difference is that the limitation of skill queue still exists. Serenity is the paradise of RMT and macros. Every alliance has a lot of teams mining and ratting with macros. And they seldom get banned It's notorious. Just looked at Serenity's online pop, 7.500ish compared to 26.400ish TQ, quite backwater. Players over there will NOT play a game if they cant RMT, bot and stuff alike, CCP has to let them get away with it and give them a few more concessions or lose. Cultural thing, i guess. They would go back to WoW gold farming in a blink. Oh, wait, they're probably all sleeping right now. So that's 7500 bots? Brilliant, 7500 bots. |
d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies SpaceMonkey's Alliance
265
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Posted - 2015.10.31 01:50:00 -
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People been asking for ages:
Allow users to change their name (maybe put a fee on it, certainly put a limitation on how often). Killrights, history, etc, MUST be retained. Maybe add something like 'previously X character' to help people recognize that person (or help the person prove it is him).
Oh and disable watchlisting... insanely OP mechanic...
Been around since the beginning.
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Desimus Maximus
Sanity Forgotten inPanic
217
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Posted - 2015.10.31 15:21:26 -
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I'm pretty sure that CCP only allows name changes in extreme cases of player harassment.
But I'm surprised they haven't offered it in exchange for PLEX at this point. I would like to see corp history removal/management in exchange for PLEX... |
Sinent
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.11.11 10:29:19 -
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as a new player to the game I see one instance where name changes should be mandatory, char sales . If you cannot act like you are the original owner then why are you saddled with the name and the reputation? kill rights for and history should be wiped clean because you didn't earn them and that seems to be the biggest badge of pride for folks. kill rights against should be kept to keep people from exploiting . just my 2 isk. |
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Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
459
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Posted - 2015.11.11 15:12:23 -
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OP: May I join the chorus in saying, I can't believe you'd want to change such a well-thought out name?
Paranoia strikes deep....
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Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1643
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Posted - 2015.11.13 21:16:28 -
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It's almost as if there's an onslaught of alts hammering GD trying to spark something.
NO, no to name changes. |
Dyllan Ma'tar
Anarchist Industrial Syndicate of New Eden
4
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:41:28 -
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Most people say no, and their reasoning is faulty. We already have the Character Bazaar. Anyone looking to abandon a "tainted" name and pick up a new one can.
The usual counter argument?
"But someone had to invest time and money in that character and then sell it!"
Which means they are ok with it in principle; they just want to haggle over price and difficulty for it.
So maybe the question should be, how much should a name change cost in time and money?
Six plex and only once every 10 million sp?
But please people, give up this faux purist stance. It makes you look dumb.
> You can win with certainty with the spirit of "one cut". ~ Miyamoto Musashi
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Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1644
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:42:54 -
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Dyllan Ma'tar wrote:Most people say no, and their reasoning is faulty. We already have the Character Bazaar. Anyone looking to abandon a "tainted" name and pick up a new one can.
The usual counter argument?
"But someone had to invest time and money in that character and then sell it!"
Which means they are ok with it in principle; they just want to haggle over price and difficulty for it.
So maybe the question should be, how much should a name change cost in time and money?
Six plex and only once every 10 million sp?
But please people, give up this faux purist stance. It makes you look dumb.
That's a lot of nonsense you typed there. But keep trying, perhaps someday you'll come up with logic and reasoning that doesn't sound silly. |
Dyllan Ma'tar
Anarchist Industrial Syndicate of New Eden
4
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Posted - 2015.11.14 01:44:32 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:Dyllan Ma'tar wrote:Most people say no, and their reasoning is faulty. We already have the Character Bazaar. Anyone looking to abandon a "tainted" name and pick up a new one can.
The usual counter argument?
"But someone had to invest time and money in that character and then sell it!"
Which means they are ok with it in principle; they just want to haggle over price and difficulty for it.
So maybe the question should be, how much should a name change cost in time and money?
Six plex and only once every 10 million sp?
But please people, give up this faux purist stance. It makes you look dumb. That's a lot of nonsense you typed there. But keep trying, perhaps someday you'll come up with logic and reasoning that doesn't sound silly.
Ad hominem to you too.
> You can win with certainty with the spirit of "one cut". ~ Miyamoto Musashi
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
212
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Posted - 2015.11.14 02:07:01 -
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N00B-SAIB0T wrote:In regards to the Dev Blog "Exploring The Character Bazaar & Skill Trading", they touched on something important:
"That part really hits home for me because when I made that jump from 15mil SP to 33mil SP I went from being called GÇÿTurbo DinosaurGÇÖ to being called GÇÿKil2GÇÖ. Puke. I also found out, after the fact, that Kil2 had been involved in some kind of corp theft which meant I had to deal with negative reputation issues for years afterwards."
They hinted that maybe there might be a feature where you could change a character's name with the larger SP and Character Bazaar changes. I'm assuming it would be the buyer of a new character during a character transfer sale. Unfortunately, the above sentences are the only piece of information we have in relation to name changes (in that blog, that is). I think we need more information on this as name changing in EVE would be a big thing.
One abuse that I could see from this is a scammer that committed a scam and can simply transfer the scamming character over to another of his/her accounts and wipe the name clean with a new name. I'm indifferent about that so it doesn't bother me but I think that's worth pointing out.
I hope we can get some more information on this. Seems pretty big.
The history is part of the character. When you buy the character you are also buying the history of that character and all the baggage that goes with it.
So when you buy the character the history should stay intact.
As for changing the name I don't see any reason why you can't, all what needs to happen is a note in the history to say what the old name was.
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Dyllan Ma'tar
Anarchist Industrial Syndicate of New Eden
4
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Posted - 2015.11.14 06:15:56 -
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Avvy wrote: As for changing the name I don't see any reason why you can't, all what needs to happen is a note in the history to say what the old name was.
Because that would threaten the easy money of established players. I'm sure a few also have built up a self image based on EVE as being a "hard core" game. So this probably threatens those few on an irrational and personal level. I'll say it again, the only difference from a name change service and the character bazaar is investment in time, money, and difficult of acquisition. In principle they are the same.
> You can win with certainty with the spirit of "one cut". ~ Miyamoto Musashi
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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1013
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Posted - 2015.11.14 06:41:03 -
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So long we can see what the "original name was" i do not care. I don`t want to play dice with other "corporation members" that may or may not be a spy aka pirate or just a stealer. Those names needs to be on the black list of eve. Non trust players and caught by hand need to stay on the list not easy quick name change. |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
212
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Posted - 2015.11.14 12:01:52 -
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Dyllan Ma'tar wrote:Avvy wrote: As for changing the name I don't see any reason why you can't, all what needs to happen is a note in the history to say what the old name was.
Because that would threaten the easy money of established players. I'm sure a few also have built up a self image based on EVE as being a "hard core" game. So this probably threatens those few on an irrational and personal level. I'll say it again, the only difference from a name change service and the character bazaar is investment in time, money, and difficulty of acquisition. In principle they are the same.
You can change your name easily and legally in the real world, so why not in Eve?
All you end up with is a piece of paper stating that you changed it, with your former name and new name and some signatures including witnesses signatures.
So having a note in the history isn't really any different. |
Moac Tor
Cy-Core Industries Stain Confederation
316
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Posted - 2015.11.14 12:51:14 -
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You should be able to wipe your characters identity.... but you lose 20% of your total SP in the process. Has a dual benefit of making it relatively painless for newer players and more unforgiving for highly skilled advanced players.
On top of the PLEX you pay to the CCP that should be enough of a deterrent to stop abuse.
One thing I really don't want to see is they implement this and make it traceable, it is annoying enough already to scroll through corp history when trying to PvP, let alone a full history of the various names a character has had.
Also if they do this then they can completely scrap the terrible skill trading proposal.
Modulated ECM Effects
An Alternative to Skill Trading
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
212
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Posted - 2015.11.14 12:53:28 -
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Moac Tor wrote:You should be able to wipe your characters identity.... but you lose 20% of your total SP in the process.
On top of the PLEX you pay to the CCP that should be enough of a deterrent to stop abuse.
One thing I really don't want to see is they implement this and make it traceable, it is annoying enough already to scroll through corp history when trying to PvP, let alone a full history of the various names a character has had.
Also if they do this then they can completely scrap the terrible skill trading proposal.
Definitely not, the history should stay intact.
Changing a name is one thing, wiping out its history is another. |
Moac Tor
Cy-Core Industries Stain Confederation
316
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Posted - 2015.11.14 12:56:32 -
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Avvy wrote:Moac Tor wrote:You should be able to wipe your characters identity.... but you lose 20% of your total SP in the process.
On top of the PLEX you pay to the CCP that should be enough of a deterrent to stop abuse.
One thing I really don't want to see is they implement this and make it traceable, it is annoying enough already to scroll through corp history when trying to PvP, let alone a full history of the various names a character has had.
Also if they do this then they can completely scrap the terrible skill trading proposal. Definitely not, the history should stay intact. Changing a name is one thing, wiping out its history is another. Like I said losing 20% is enough of a deterrent to stop abuse. It is effectively a different character in practical purposes with such a big chunk of SP being removed.
I was hoping it would register that my proposal was pretty harsh against name change, you didn't seem to understand that though.
Modulated ECM Effects
An Alternative to Skill Trading
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
212
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Posted - 2015.11.14 13:00:57 -
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Moac Tor wrote:Avvy wrote:Moac Tor wrote:You should be able to wipe your characters identity.... but you lose 20% of your total SP in the process.
On top of the PLEX you pay to the CCP that should be enough of a deterrent to stop abuse.
One thing I really don't want to see is they implement this and make it traceable, it is annoying enough already to scroll through corp history when trying to PvP, let alone a full history of the various names a character has had.
Also if they do this then they can completely scrap the terrible skill trading proposal. Definitely not, the history should stay intact. Changing a name is one thing, wiping out its history is another. Like I said losing 20% is enough of a deterrent to stop abuse. It is effectively a different character in practical purposes with such a big chunk of SP being removed. I was hoping it would register that my proposal was pretty harsh against name change, you didn't seem to understand that though.
Can you change your own history?
In witness protection they may give you a false one, but that doesn't mean your own history has altered. |
Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1646
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Posted - 2015.11.14 13:20:09 -
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Dyllan Ma'tar wrote:Gregor Parud wrote:Dyllan Ma'tar wrote:Most people say no, and their reasoning is faulty. We already have the Character Bazaar. Anyone looking to abandon a "tainted" name and pick up a new one can.
The usual counter argument?
"But someone had to invest time and money in that character and then sell it!"
Which means they are ok with it in principle; they just want to haggle over price and difficulty for it.
So maybe the question should be, how much should a name change cost in time and money?
Six plex and only once every 10 million sp?
But please people, give up this faux purist stance. It makes you look dumb. That's a lot of nonsense you typed there. But keep trying, perhaps someday you'll come up with logic and reasoning that doesn't sound silly. Ad hominem to you too.
If you choose to not type nonsense I'll be happy to discuss/counter your points made. till then I'll just call it for what it is. |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
212
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Posted - 2015.11.14 14:05:56 -
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The purpose of the name change I've been talking about, is so that a player may alter the name, because they don't like the name the character has.
It's not to try and remove itself from its past deeds.
Hence why a note of the old name needs to be in its history.
What would the cost be, looking at other things probably 1 PLEX. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
9584
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Posted - 2015.11.14 18:27:10 -
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What's the point in a name change if you can't change it to Mr Epeen?
And you can't. It's mine and I'll never, ever give it up.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Vilar Diin
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Squids
16
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Posted - 2015.11.14 20:01:33 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Well the op clearly needs to train "reading comprehension V " pronto, but that aside I'll chirp in again in favour of the notion of changing a name with the caveat that the old name is easily accessible and it has no impact on standings,watchlists ect ec.
Yeah yeah, conciquences and all that but where it really matters you will check to see any previous aliases
It's simple enough just add a tab entitled "known Aliases". It would actually add more depth to the game since people adopt different names for various reason in real life. |
Vilar Diin
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Squids
16
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Posted - 2015.11.14 20:03:26 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:What's the point in a name change if you can't change it to Mr Epeen? And you can't. It's mine and I'll never, ever give it up. Mr Epeen
You always make it sound as if it's all about you... |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
214
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Posted - 2015.11.14 20:14:47 -
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Vilar Diin wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Well the op clearly needs to train "reading comprehension V " pronto, but that aside I'll chirp in again in favour of the notion of changing a name with the caveat that the old name is easily accessible and it has no impact on standings,watchlists ect ec.
Yeah yeah, conciquences and all that but where it really matters you will check to see any previous aliases It's simple enough just add a tab entitled "known Aliases". It would actually add more depth to the game since people adopt different names for various reason in real life.
Why add a tab, when it could be just one line in the history (per name)? Most characters will probably never have a name change. |
Dyllan Ma'tar
Anarchist Industrial Syndicate of New Eden
4
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Posted - 2015.11.15 02:10:29 -
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Avvy wrote:Dyllan Ma'tar wrote:Avvy wrote: As for changing the name I don't see any reason why you can't, all what needs to happen is a note in the history to say what the old name was.
Because that would threaten the easy money of established players. I'm sure a few also have built up a self image based on EVE as being a "hard core" game. So this probably threatens those few on an irrational and personal level. I'll say it again, the only difference from a name change service and the character bazaar is investment in time, money, and difficulty of acquisition. In principle they are the same. You can change your name easily and legally in the real world, so why not in Eve? All you end up with is a piece of paper stating that you changed it, with your former name and new name and some signatures including witnesses signatures. So having a note in the history isn't really any different. Edit: I think part of the reason probably was because you don't get to choose your name at birth, so as an adult you should be free to be called what you want to be called. Which is like buying characters from the bazaar, you didn't choose the name at its birth/creation so you should be free to call it what you want (as long as it is within the EULA). Edit 2: Just to be clear about my first edit, all characters should be able to change their name at a cost. In the real world it costs, so I don't see why it shouldn't cost here. Plus if a cost is attached it will stop people just changing it for the sake of it.
History should definitely be retained, I agree completely. The bazaar is actually more OP then a name change in that respect. Not only that, but any name search should pop you up in a result window if the name searched is in that history.
> You can win with certainty with the spirit of "one cut". ~ Miyamoto Musashi
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