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DNSBLACK Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 714	Posted - 2015.10.28 01:28:28 - [1] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_jGIwhWaQY This maybe locked or moved, but I feel I would not be doing a fellow American and eve player justice if I didn't share. Sorry Falcon you can ban my account but this has to be seen by my fellow eve players. My heart hurts and she deserves answers.
Jarod Garamonde Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn 2600	Posted - 2015.10.28 01:37:22 - [2] - Quote DNSBLACK wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_jGIwhWaQY This maybe locked or moved, but I feel I would not be doing a fellow American and eve player justice if I didn't share. Sorry Falcon you can ban my account but this has to be seen by my fellow eve players. My heart hurts and she deserves answers. Did I just see you use the death of a universally beloved figure in our community as a political agenda? I expect crappy behavior out of you, Black, but I didn't think even YOU were this bad. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`
Krevnos Back Door Burglars The Otherworld 13	Posted - 2015.10.28 01:53:05 - [3] - Quote DNSBLACK wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_jGIwhWaQY This maybe locked or moved, but I feel I would not be doing a fellow American and eve player justice if I didn't share. Sorry Falcon you can ban my account but this has to be seen by my fellow eve players. My heart hurts and she deserves answers. Yep this is clearly posted with the intent of political agenda rather than a respectful memory to a beloved community figure.
Daemun Khanid Sanctus Imperialis 164	Posted - 2015.10.28 01:55:12 - [4] - Quote Jarod Garamonde wrote: DNSBLACK wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_jGIwhWaQY This maybe locked or moved, but I feel I would not be doing a fellow American and eve player justice if I didn't share. Sorry Falcon you can ban my account but this has to be seen by my fellow eve players. My heart hurts and she deserves answers. Did I just see you use the death of a universally beloved figure in our community as a political agenda? I expect crappy behavior out of you, Black, but I didn't think even YOU were this bad. So expectations of accountability are indicators of political agenda? How dare ppl question the actions of political figures when they are running for office. You're just supposed to elect them, sweep it all under the rug and get back in the flock w the rest of the sheep. Understood. You should wear your PC police badge more prominently. Daemun of Khanid
Marsha Mallow 2689	Posted - 2015.10.28 01:58:05 - [5] - Quote It's not just Amerians outraged by that incident, and rightly so. Everyone I knew in the military/security - or just anyone with a brain - went ballistic over that incident. But as a not-American, I will say. My father left Kabul in the 60s, and the moderate groups are just as upset right now watching fanaticism spread like a virus. It's rooted in Saudi, fyi. We watched 9/11 live and multiple groups ran prayers that day. They haven't even stopped grieving over that in time to stop their own kids being brainwashed and pulled into conflict zones. You have no idea what people are experiencing on the ground, and you wouldn't want to in the Kush because there are unmanned drones actively whacking villages to get to one insurgent. And we have to live among you, work harder, be abused more, and take it. For things we didn't even sign upto in the first place. And watch that from a distance. Your self-righteousness offends me. Your annoyance isn't likely to match the suffering of whole communities condemned to live in a warzone dustbowl, so that your citizens could play CoD, whine about obesity and impotence and offend me. Don't start these discussions here please. Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: TO THE PITCHFORKMOBILE! Benny Ohu wrote: fire up the argument calibrators set phasers to outraged overheat keyboards reinforce the thread Jenn aSide wrote: does anyone have any assless chaps I could borrow?
Jarod Garamonde Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn 2600	Posted - 2015.10.28 02:16:13 - [6] - Quote I'm not addressing any of the side-tracking points, here. Everyone respected Sean Smith. Every time I hear a politician or a news outlet say the name "Benghazi", it makes me want to punch people in the face. None of them care about the people who died. They only care about their agenda. I didn't watch the video because I'm sure it's just Fox News trying to slam someone who isn't going to win the election anyway. Not cool. Stop trying to stir the **** pot. You want to remember the guy for who he was? Talk about all the cool stuff he did, and how awesome he was to nearly everyone he ever spoke to. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`
Daemun Khanid Sanctus Imperialis 164	Posted - 2015.10.28 02:19:57 - [7] - Quote Jarod Garamonde wrote: I'm not addressing any of the side-tracking points, here. Everyone respected Sean Smith. Every time I hear a politician or a news outlet say the name "Benghazi", it makes me want to punch people in the face. None of them care about the people who died. They only care about their agenda. I didn't watch the video because I'm sure it's just Fox News trying to slam someone who isn't going to win the election anyway. Not cool. Stop trying to stir the **** pot. You want to remember the guy for who he was? Talk about all the cool stuff he did, and how awesome he was to nearly everyone he ever spoke to. Actually it was MSNBC, a pointedly liberal news source and supporter of Clinton. All the more reason it was offensive to behave as if it was a politicaly motivated and disrespectful towards the man's mother. Daemun of Khanid
Jarod Garamonde Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn 2600	Posted - 2015.10.28 02:42:04 - [8] - Quote Daemun Khanid wrote: Actually it was MSNBC, a pointedly liberal news source and supporter of Clinton. All the more reason it was offensive to behave as if it was a politicaly motivated and disrespectful towards the man's mother. First of all, MSNBC has been supporting Sanders. You must be thinking of CNN. Second of all... why did Black present it like a political agenda if it was meant otherwise? I told you all... I don't want to get drawn into a political debate over this. This doesn't belong in general discussion, and as an EVE player, I find it offensive that I can't even get away from this disrespectful rhetoric, here. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`
DNSBLACK Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 716	Posted - 2015.10.28 02:44:04 - [9] - Quote Sorry if you took this as a political agenda post. I posted it cause I honestly felt bad for her and the unknown. Please don't read into it anymore then that. I do not put blame on a messed up situation just on the fact she deserves to know the truth about her son and what happen.
Raffael Ramirez Alcohol Fuelled 37	Posted - 2015.10.28 02:44:59 - [10] - Quote What do you hope to achieve with posting on an international game forum about spaceship real live event related information? You know it will get locked you stated as much so why do you do it? 5 minutes of internet fame? Go YOU! Go to a relevant section of the forum or even better a different forum to get your fix. Cheers

Portmanteau oooh ponies 149	Posted - 2015.10.28 02:56:30 - [11] - Quote What a f*ing di move
DNSBLACK Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 716	Posted - 2015.10.28 03:17:14 - [12] - Quote http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/04/22/305969203/soldier-speaks-up-a-decade-after-pat-tillmans-friendly-fire-death I guess if he was a football player the truth would matter more. The fact is people mess up and the moms and dads are left to question everything. Then small cracks happen and the truth finds its way out and moms and dads can move on. That is what happens in Pats death. The fact is the game you are playing is mentioned over and over again in this interview. This game along with many other mmo games are played and watched by news outlets around the world. You are not willing to have a single post in the same forums we talk about so very much; not even exist. If we are catalyst for her finding peace and closer then so be it. We raise millions of dollars for victims around the world and yet a gamers mom who was apart of our universe is not worth our time or discussion. Do me a favor and at least send a letter or email to your goverment rep asking for answers to what happen. You will give plex for a faceless victim but you would not be willing to take up the cause for Sean's mom to have answers. I have seen faceless charity do a tremendous amount of good in the world; If you can affect change for a known person like Sean's mom then why would you not at least embrace sending a email or letter asking for her pain to have some rest. Please understand I have no pony in the race for this election and would only like to see a mom come to some closure.
Marsha Mallow 2692	Posted - 2015.10.28 03:36:38 - [13] - Quote DNSBLACK wrote: Please understand I have no pony in the race for this election and would only like to see a mom come to some closure. His mum deserves an answer. She's not going to get it from EvE Online players. Mixing this RL politics back into game is bad. Drop this now, please - if you want to help someone or run a campaign, this is not an appropriate venue. Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: TO THE PITCHFORKMOBILE! Benny Ohu wrote: fire up the argument calibrators set phasers to outraged overheat keyboards reinforce the thread Jenn aSide wrote: does anyone have any assless chaps I could borrow?
Jarod Garamonde Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn 2600	Posted - 2015.10.28 03:44:30 - [14] - Quote My point: a guy that everybody liked is dead because some zealot wants to misinterpret his religion. A fellow veteran. A fellow capsuleer. A fellow American. You bring up Pat Tillman, too? Well, guess what? You can leave him out of political rantings as well. Again.... a fellow Soldier and a fellow American. If you can't be talked out of this, there's nothing more I can do in this thread. I hope they ban you, Black. They should have done that a long time ago. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`
Jenn aSide Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore 12822	Posted - 2015.10.28 03:47:51 - [15] - Quote Why in the high hells is this in GD?
Portmanteau oooh ponies 149	Posted - 2015.10.28 03:51:16 - [16] - Quote Because China ! China China China ...China China China China ....Chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Marsha Mallow 2692	Posted - 2015.10.28 03:54:36 - [17] - Quote Jarod Garamonde wrote: My point: a guy that everybody liked is dead because some zealot wants to misinterpret his religion. A fellow veteran. A fellow capsuleer. A fellow American. Be really careful on this. Jesus just informed me that your forumfu fails and I missed referencing something.. from my last assignment. Ooops. But She also informed me that all Americans are rebel gobble gobble tax dodging muppets in need of a good spanking. Preferably by baguette wieldiing Frenchies. She might have mixed those up with yuppies tho. Carry on. Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: TO THE PITCHFORKMOBILE! Benny Ohu wrote: fire up the argument calibrators set phasers to outraged overheat keyboards reinforce the thread Jenn aSide wrote: does anyone have any assless chaps I could borrow?
Jarod Garamonde Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn 2601	Posted - 2015.10.28 04:25:28 - [18] - Quote Marsha Mallow wrote: Jarod Garamonde wrote: My point: a guy that everybody liked is dead because some zealot wants to misinterpret his religion. A fellow veteran. A fellow capsuleer. A fellow American. Be really careful on this. Jesus just informed me that your forumfu fails and I missed referencing something.. from my last assignment. Ooops. But She also informed me that all Americans are rebel gobble gobble tax dodging muppets in need of a good spanking. Preferably by baguette wieldiing Frenchies. She might have mixed those up with yuppies tho. Carry on. While I agree with your description of most Americans, I hardly think that's in good taste, considering the context of this thread. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`
Portmanteau oooh ponies 149	Posted - 2015.10.28 04:26:40 - [19] - Quote The whole thread is in dreadful taste so I see no problem with what Marsha said
Jarod Garamonde Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn 2601	Posted - 2015.10.28 04:27:21 - [20] - Quote Portmanteau wrote: The whole thread is in dreadful taste so I see no problem with what Marsha said Good point. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`

atif09 THE THIRTEEN SAMURAI The Old Guard. 18	Posted - 2015.10.28 08:59:08 - [21] - Quote OH noez the bad muslim monsters are coming for us... think you can kill all 1.7 billion off em? when you retards get nuked by the enemies you yourself created i'll laugh
Eternal Bob Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 63	Posted - 2015.10.28 09:24:13 - [22] - Quote No offence, but pretty much no-one outside America gives a flying toss about your internal politics regarding Benghazi or Hilary Clinton. And to be honest, sympathy for your nation is hard to come by right now, especially after you killed 22 doctors and patients when you bombed a Doctors Without Borders hospital in Afghanistan recently. I hope you are equally as mad about that as you are about the topic in your OP.
Shrillary Pantsuit University of Caille Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.10.28 10:08:12 - [23] - Quote We should all celebrate the excellence of this young hero, and his contributions to New Eden, rather than dwell on the circumstances surrounding his tragic loss. Really; what difference - at this point - does it make? Vote Shrillary, CSM Chairwoman, 2016! "Wardecs are okay, when done the Shrillary way!" ------------------------ This post was drafted and submitted on an official, CCP-sanctioned account, and contains no material marked 'classified'
Kaarous Aldurald Black Hydra Consortium. 14798	Posted - 2015.10.28 10:36:17 - [24] - Quote Shrillary Pantsuit wrote: We should all celebrate the excellence of this young hero, and his contributions to New Eden, rather than dwell on the circumstances surrounding his tragic loss. Really; what difference - at this point - does it make? Had planned on staying out of this, but I'll tell you what difference it made. I've know of convoys carrying televisions or mail that got a better response to live fire than the ambassador and his staff. That merits some questions. That said, GD is absolutely not the place for this, and the ISDs will probably nuke it from orbit once they wake up. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs. Best Meltdown Ever.
DNSBLACK Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 717	Posted - 2015.10.28 11:26:48 - [25] - Quote I would like to apologize to those I offended and ask that this post be removed. I guess being a bit old school, this would be a place I could share this. Again I am sorry for offending you guys. I guess this is just a game and at times it seem to be so much more. I try to understand the view point of many and I guess seeing Sean's mom ask for answer led me to a shallow place and a short sighted approach to using these forums. As the OP I would ask that this post be locked and taken down
Portmanteau oooh ponies 150	Posted - 2015.10.28 11:49:42 - [26] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Shrillary Pantsuit wrote: We should all celebrate the excellence of this young hero, and his contributions to New Eden, rather than dwell on the circumstances surrounding his tragic loss. Really; what difference - at this point - does it make? Had planned on staying out of this, but I'll tell you what difference it made. I've know of convoys carrying televisions or mail that got a better response to live fire than the ambassador and his staff. That merits some questions. That said, GD is absolutely not the place for this, and the ISDs will probably nuke it from orbit once they wake up. Biting my tongue here, MODS ! please lock this abortion of a thread now
afkalt Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 2309	Posted - 2015.10.28 13:05:57 - [27] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: ISDs will probably nuke it from orbit once they wake up. And hopefully add a hefty kick in the balls for the OP to boot. Seriously man, just what the hell?
Capt Starfox Amok. Goonswarm Federation 917	Posted - 2015.10.28 13:32:29 - [28] - Quote Fubar Hillary Clinton Fubar Obama Fubar United States Government Thank you, that is all. *Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet*
Portmanteau oooh ponies 150	Posted - 2015.10.28 13:34:54 - [29] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs
Akrasjel Lanate Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 1841	Posted - 2015.10.28 13:44:42 - [30] - Quote This again Akrasjel Lanate Member of Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance Citizen of Solitude

Indahmawar Fazmarai 4081	Posted - 2015.10.28 14:02:18 - [31] - Quote What's this even doing here? CCP Seagull: "EVE should be a universe where the infrastructure you build and fight over is as player driven and dynamic as the EVE market is now". 62% of players: "We're not interested. May we have Plan B, please?" CCP Seagull: "What Plan B?"
Eternal Bob Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 65	Posted - 2015.10.28 14:15:13 - [32] - Quote mfw 2pm and it's still here
Otso Bakarti Filial Pariahs 410	Posted - 2015.10.28 14:25:14 - [33] - Quote Can I post in this thread before it gets locked? Why, thanks so much. Fear of death follows from fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time. -Mark Twain -
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2361	Posted - 2015.10.28 14:45:38 - [34] - Quote DNSBLACK wrote: As the OP I would ask that this post be locked and taken down Then edit the content of the OP out and report it so it can be locked/deleted/moved.
Otso Bakarti Filial Pariahs 412	Posted - 2015.10.28 15:00:00 - [35] - Quote atif09 wrote: OH noez the bad muslim monsters are coming for us... think you can kill all 1.7 billion off em? when you retards get nuked by the enemies you yourself created i'll laugh Yeah. I can see you laughing as you ski in your nuclear winter. Enjoy the irradiated caviar. Fear of death follows from fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time. -Mark Twain -
Jarod Garamonde Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn 2608	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:10:02 - [36] - Quote DNSBLACK wrote: I would like to apologize to those I offended and ask that this post be removed. I guess being a bit old school, this would be a place I could share this. Again I am sorry for offending you guys. I guess this is just a game and at times it seem to be so much more. I try to understand the view point of many and I guess seeing Sean's mom ask for answer led me to a shallow place and a short sighted approach to using these forums. As the OP I would ask that this post be locked and taken down The next exercise is the backpedal. In cadence! Exercise! 1,2,3.... That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right... `[#savethelance]`
Dradis Aulmais RW Vindicator Connection Phoebe Freeport Republic 1073	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:25:43 - [37] - Quote Ibtl Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896 Free The Scope Three
ISD Decoy ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1307	Posted - 2015.10.28 16:28:41 - [38] - Quote I wish I could have closed this sooner. Quote: 7. Discussion of real life religion and politics is prohibited. Discussion of real life religion and politics is strictly prohibited on the EVE Online forums. Discussions of this nature often creates animosity between forum users due to real life political or military conflicts. CCP promotes the growth of a gaming community where equality is at the forefront. Nationalist, religious or political affiliations are not part of EVE Online, and should not be part of discussion on the EVE Online forums. Locked. ISD Decoy Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

CCP Falcon 12470	Posted - 2015.10.28 18:14:27 - [39] - Quote DNSBLACK wrote: I would like to apologize to those I offended and ask that this post be removed. I guess being a bit old school, this would be a place I could share this. Again I am sorry for offending you guys. I guess this is just a game and at times it seem to be so much more. I try to understand the view point of many and I guess seeing Sean's mom ask for answer led me to a shallow place and a short sighted approach to using these forums. As the OP I would ask that this post be locked and taken down So, I'd like to add something here, even though this thread is locked. The reason for me doing this is I've had a few people contact me about this thread, and the OP calls me out directly for some reason. Given that the thread calls me out directly, I'll offer a response. Please bear in mind that this is my personal opinion, rather than my professional take on things. More than three years later many people in our community and a hell of a lot of people here at CCP miss Vile Rat terribly, myself included, and the community really is still hurting over what happened. When a community loses a wingman, a content creator, a fantastic leader, a candid and skilled diplomat, and moreover a family man, friend and an all around lovely guy, this will always be the case. The EVE Community has lost more than a few players over the years, some of them high profile, and some of them more reserved and out of the public light. I've lost a couple of very close friends myself. Loss has touched everyone in EVE, be that via natural passing, death in service, or other reasoning. The community is aware that there's a search for truth around what happened, and people should of course be held accountable, but you're not going to find any of those answers on the EVE Online forums, and you certainly should not discuss politics here. I have no problem with anyone posting a memorial thread on the forums for a fallen wingman, and our fantastic volunteers will make sure that it's moderated appropriately, but please stop posting political stuff, along with stuff like "sorry falcon you can ban my account", because all you're doing is pushing a political agenda and trying to draw attention to yourself, in a place that politics is not allowed to be discussed. VR is missed by his wingmen every day in EVE, there's no doubt about that. He's missed as a player of amazing character, a skilled diplomat, a fantastic and inspirational leader and a rock solid content creator that served his alliance with the utmost of dedication. That's how he'll be remembered in EVE, as one of the most skilled, dedicated and respected pilots to ever grace New Eden. The negative reaction to this thread has nothing to do with EVE being "just a game". The negative reaction to this thread came from people for exactly the opposite reason, it's MORE than a game to every one of us, yourself included. This also has nothing to do with being "old school". Hell, I can remember the days long before DNS was even a thing. What I can assure you of though, is that the reaction to your post has everything to do with having the correct sense of respect and decorum for the memory of one of the most widely respected and loved players in the history of EVE. Stop posting political stuff. Stop posting about warnings and bans. Cheers, - F CCP Falcon \|\| EVE Universe Community Manager \|\| @CCP_Falcon Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3



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