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Valacus
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Posted - 2015.10.29 20:46:21 -
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Give the Nestor anything but exploration bonuses. No one uses it to explore. It's the wrong ship class.
I'd honestly rather the Nestor was a combat ship than a logi ship. Logi battleships are just as bad as exploration battleships. They're gimped by speed, warp speed, and lock time. Just give the Nestor DPS bonuses, or leave its DPS as is and give it a t2 improved cloak and a jump drive. Blops Nestor FTW. Then it will even be in line with other blops cost wise. |
Valacus
Shattered Silver
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Posted - 2015.10.30 02:25:07 -
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Joe Risalo wrote:Valacus wrote:Give the Nestor anything but exploration bonuses. No one uses it to explore. It's the wrong ship class.
I'd honestly rather the Nestor was a combat ship than a logi ship. Logi battleships are just as bad as exploration battleships. They're gimped by speed, warp speed, and lock time. Just give the Nestor DPS bonuses, or leave its DPS as is and give it a t2 improved cloak and a jump drive. Blops Nestor FTW. Then it will even be in line with other blops cost wise. I think they still use the logistics aspect in WH.
That's if they use it at all. There are way better choices for WH than the Nestor. Logi battleships are just a big bag of fail. There's a reason they never released any to begin with. They would have either been OP or a complete failure. The Nestor is the latter. |
Valacus
Shattered Silver
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Posted - 2015.10.30 19:49:43 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:It's a great ship that does amazing things. It's fine, leave it alone.
Let me bottom line it for you: When Navy Caracals start landing on grid the FC giggles and keeps fighting. When Nestors start landing on grid the FC has to do a gut check and decide to primary them or gtfo. That's telling me the ship is perfectly fine.
I'll give you that my response is snarky, but it's also true and valid. If someones feelings are all ouchy based on my wording... I'll sleep ok tonight.
This whole thread is akin to someone finding a bomblike thing with a digital timer set to AB:5*:3Q with characters counting down on it. You're not really sure exactly what it is, how it works or what it's even doing, but you decide to get out your Webelo tool set and start changing stuff around anyway. When folks feel obligated to start messing with things the don't use to improve them - yeah I get snarky.
That's not an argument. You always have to do a gut check when you see a 1bil ISK ship show up on grid, because odds are high it could be bait. That doesn't make the ship good. Not by a long shot. That makes it suspicious.
afkalt wrote:
No subcap reps harder.
It sees very common use on blinged out hotdrops.
So what if no other sub cap "reps harder". It costs a bil just for the hull. You may as well bring a carrier and rep even harder.
Blinged out hot drops? You mean a situation where you are positive you're going to win anyways, so you can bring just about anything you choose? Oh yes, that totally makes the ship good. It might get used in a fight where odds of victory are completely assured. By that extension, the Hel and the Nidhogger are fine too. They win every one sided fight where they're on the one side. AOK, move along to balance something else. |
Valacus
Shattered Silver
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Posted - 2015.10.31 23:39:23 -
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afkalt wrote:Valacus wrote:afkalt wrote:
No subcap reps harder.
It sees very common use on blinged out hotdrops.
So what if no other sub cap "reps harder". It costs a bil just for the hull. You may as well bring a carrier and rep even harder. Blinged out hot drops? You mean a situation where you are positive you're going to win anyways, so you can bring just about anything you choose? Oh yes, that totally makes the ship good. It might get used in a fight where odds of victory are completely assured. By that extension, the Hel and the Nidhogger are fine too. They win every one sided fight where they're on the one side. AOK, move along to balance something else. BRB, jumping my archon into Jita. Oh. Wait. Also confirming that no hotdrop ever has preparation for a counter drop.
You can't jump portal into Jita either. Your arguments just make less and less sense. |
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