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Gtan Gallente New European Regiment	Posted - 2006.12.31 18:16:00 - [1] I was reading post made by Wild Madmax, after reading some of replays from BoB members, then i would like to point out what happened about week back now. A member of UG was rat hunting in Delve, most UG members are Chinese and don¦t understand English very well, and clearly no one told that UG member that BoB dont want us to rat hunt in Delve. I dont know what happened between that UG member and BoB, but what happens next is that BoB puts all corps in Horde to 0.0 status. and thats how we lost docking rights at The Flamingo. We then got time to remove our stuff, 48 hours, and all that time a Xelas corp (Catalyst Reaction [HASTE]) that is living in The flamingo , was acting like idiots. locking us, putting 2x Large bubble on Flamingo. On day 2 of that "move out" agreement, Catalyst Reaction [HASTE] members started to fire on us, killing haulers and other small ships. We reacted and joined forces with other players who where attacking Xelas in G95. After we fired back, it took not long time for BoB to respond with removing our docking rights at The Flamingo again, it was maybe an hour or 2. just that act told me that BoB had made up his mind regarding Horde. and when i write this, i remember seeing BoB members replay to Wild Madmax post, and saying, we dont belive our leaders are not good people, or , you guys lost because you joined up with Celes. BoB is showing great arrogant, making rules about where players can rat hunt, making corps pay rent in what they claim is their space. BoB, you are not making friends in this game, just search EVE website for BoB and search results are many many Hate posts against BoB.
Chode Rizoum Minmatar TEMPTATION INC.	Posted - 2006.12.31 18:17:00 - [2] no hooky pooky pew pew for delve ? TEMPTATION INC. Killboard
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.12.31 18:33:00 - [3] thanx for another BOB thread.. cheque is in the mail
Lag Fest Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.31 18:36:00 - [4] Originally by: Gtan I was reading post made by Wild Madmax, after reading some of replays from BoB members, then i would like to point out what happened about week back now. A member of UG was rat hunting in Delve, most UG members are Chinese and don¦t understand English very well, and clearly no one told that UG member that BoB dont want us to rat hunt in Delve. I dont know what happened between that UG member and BoB, but what happens next is that BoB puts all corps in Horde to 0.0 status. and thats how we lost docking rights at The Flamingo. UG is chinese FARMING corp. 90% of their members are about 2 months old with 5.0 in sec status. U rarely see 2 member in same system and u ALWAYS see same ppl in same systems. That is fact my friend. _______________________________________
Aurel Senia The Fayth	Posted - 2006.12.31 18:37:00 - [5] Originally by: Gtan BoB is showing great arrogant, making rules about where players can rat hunt, making corps pay rent in what they claim is their space. Well it is their space, and you're a guest .... so pretty much, they own your soul while you're a resident there. Until you fight them for it and win it for your own, you follow the rules.
Xrak Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.31 18:37:00 - [6] Sorry Mr Concord, hes foreign and didnt know you cant shoot people in 0.7 space. Please dont take away his sec-status! Yea right, doesn't work like that. This shud have been posted in the other thread, not a new one.
Great Infiltrator Amarr The Bothan Network	Posted - 2006.12.31 18:37:00 - [7] I personally hope that bob ****es off all of their renters and slave alliances enough to turn on them
Monarch Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.31 18:40:00 - [8] Your grace period ended when DICE was shown proof that you where flying with Fountain pirates. Mind you the grace perion was extended to you because Zorba kindly asked, the grace period , afaik, was only with DICE because you had stuff in our outpost.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.31 18:40:00 - [9] LoL no one told him he wasnt allowed to rat hunt in Delve ? This was the third or forth time he had been convod, he spoke english "fine" in that convo and tried explaining our rules to us. It was simple, get out of Delve but followed was attitude. He just made the mistake of doing it in a convo with one of BoB's CEO¦s. Horde corps, chinese or not we dont ask the origin of players, have been farming Delve systems and your alliance leaders have been made aware of that as well as were told of the reset of standings. You were our guests and we were quite generous, we then showed you the door. Move on.
Astasia Orian Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.31 18:58:00 - [10] Hi, if we extend the hand of friendship and you want to keep it, it helps not to have sweatshop farmers in Delve 24/7. No excuses.
Wei Xiao Sword OF Chairman Mao	Posted - 2006.12.31 19:50:00 - [11] Originally by: Lag Fest Originally by: Gtan I was reading post made by Wild Madmax, after reading some of replays from BoB members, then i would like to point out what happened about week back now. A member of UG was rat hunting in Delve, most UG members are Chinese and don¦t understand English very well, and clearly no one told that UG member that BoB dont want us to rat hunt in Delve. I dont know what happened between that UG member and BoB, but what happens next is that BoB puts all corps in Horde to 0.0 status. and thats how we lost docking rights at The Flamingo. UG is chinese FARMING corp. 90% of their members are about 2 months old with 5.0 in sec status. U rarely see 2 member in same system and u ALWAYS see same ppl in same systems. That is fact my friend. The fact is that you were speaking bull**** that UG is a farming corp and the statistics about its members. Dont make me laugh BOB, the entire alliance was removed because a silly UG member ingorned Strike's warning in Delve? You are so generous...
Plaetean Remnants of Times olde	Posted - 2006.12.31 20:01:00 - [12] Originally by: Gtan BoB is showing great arrogant, making rules about where players can rat hunt, making corps pay rent in what they claim is their space. BoB, you are not making friends in this game, just search EVE website for BoB and search results are many many Hate posts against BoB. Their space, their rules. My views are my own etc etc
Leonardo Sabrioski Caldari Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.31 20:35:00 - [13] Originally by: Wei Xiao Originally by: Lag Fest Originally by: Gtan I was reading post made by Wild Madmax, after reading some of replays from BoB members, then i would like to point out what happened about week back now. A member of UG was rat hunting in Delve, most UG members are Chinese and don¦t understand English very well, and clearly no one told that UG member that BoB dont want us to rat hunt in Delve. I dont know what happened between that UG member and BoB, but what happens next is that BoB puts all corps in Horde to 0.0 status. and thats how we lost docking rights at The Flamingo. UG is chinese FARMING corp. 90% of their members are about 2 months old with 5.0 in sec status. U rarely see 2 member in same system and u ALWAYS see same ppl in same systems. That is fact my friend. The fact is that you were speaking bull** that UG is a farming corp and the statistics about its members. Dont make me laugh BOB, the entire alliance was removed because a silly UG member ingorned Strike's warning in Delve? You are so generous... Its their region(s), they are merely plucking the useless weeds from it. And if it isn't a fact, who CARES! It's their home, don't question their rules. ---------------------------------------------- <insert threatning remark here>**
Dragerest Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.31 21:12:00 - [14] Edited by: Dragerest on 31/12/2006 21:13:26 wow what a whole 12 hours without a new bob thread it was about time. i do feel sorry for bob get all these noobs making threads about bob when evemail is still working.. if people want know about bob why not evemail them? go to there systems and have a nice chat in local? ps. bob's icecream cake is a exploit For your tech 2 needs www.evetrust.com
Eileen Over The Cult of Charo SunStorm Dominion	Posted - 2006.12.31 21:32:00 - [15] It's really simple. Don't make any agreement with BoB in the first instance, and you won't have to worry about being screwed over by BoB later. All the little slave boys and girls in Delve and Period Basis take notice. Quote: BoB is showing great arrogant, making rules about where players can rat hunt, making corps pay rent in what they claim is their space. And you're just now figuring this out about BoB? You deserve all the backstabbing destroyed haulers and everything else you get now, because you got in bed with BoB to begin with.
jernej Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.31 21:33:00 - [16] Originally by: Wei Xiao Dont make me laugh BOB, the entire alliance was removed because a silly UG member ingorned Strike's warning in Delve? You are so generous... They p***ed off The Dark Lord ? This Horde stuff is not good eve-o material, 95% of the bobits don't have a clue what happened. How can we flame you when we don't know what's going on ? No fun !!!
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.31 22:20:00 - [17] The nice thing about these kinds of threads is that all the BoB haters start coming out of the woodwork, maybe because they believe that Fountain is now going to face the possibility of being taken from BoB. Ironic how when it was just CELES, no one even cared. As for The Horde, you're not the only alliance living with BoB. All the others seem to get along rather well, maintaining agreements about space that have been in place for over a year. Why then are you having trouble communicating that to your membership? About the bubble incident, why didn't you just dock and get in touch with alliance leadership first? Suddenly joining a gang with widely advertised BoB (and before your eviction, Horde) hostiles is a sign of fickleness. If you believed that the way the standings were being handled was in error, then talk. It seems to me that there's a lot of confusion going on even before all of this, and that it was mostly due to neglect.
Gtan Gallente New European Regiment	Posted - 2006.12.31 22:52:00 - [18] Im not an alliance leader, and was never told about what is going on, i even did not know about the do not rat in Delve rule. Maybe this happened because Corp like The Huns are leaving The horde. and with them Leaders that where talking to BoB. or maybe this happend because Zobra don't live in satyr anymore and did not have to put up with how that Xelas corp treated us. About why we did not get in contact with leaders. that Xelas corp have been acting like total idiots for a long time, when they attacked us it was the last drop, and they where attacking us in gangs. and camping station so we could not dock, or undock. Why did bob not remove standings towards Xelas alliance when they attacked Horde ? Has for talk about rat farming, and all that, i like to tell you that even bob members do rat farm. or maybe you are going to tell me that bob is not using resources that 0.0 space gives. Originally by: Rebellion As for The Horde, you're not the only alliance living with BoB. All the others seem to get along rather well, maintaining agreements about space that have been in place for over a year. Why then are you having trouble communicating that to your membership? About the bubble incident, why didn't you just dock and get in touch with alliance leadership first? Suddenly joining a gang with widely advertised BoB (and before your eviction, Horde) hostiles is a sign of fickleness. If you believed that the way the standings were being handled was in error, then talk. It seems to me that there's a lot of confusion going on even before all of this, and that it was mostly due to neglect.
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.12.31 23:05:00 - [19] Originally by: Gtan Im not an alliance leader, and was never told about what is going on well it's good to know you can bring duplicate thread topics, with your own little bit of smack, to EO.. with the confidence your discussion topics will be accurate.. gg
MoeStyles Catalyst Reaction Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.31 23:17:00 - [20] The bubble camp was simple.. Gtan and others know exactly why it was there. No illusion about the fact we were killing any UG members that attempted to get out of the system. If it slowed down their process of moving out, boo hoo.. Not our problem. On your supposed day two, the Xelas CIC reset standings to Horde per communications he had with BoB and open season on Horde was declared. And to be honest Gtan.. After all the smacking you have done in local over the last several weeks.. It couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch.. --
Gtan Gallente New European Regiment	Posted - 2006.12.31 23:45:00 - [21] Did we invite you to come to satyr ? or was it bob, or dice ? how come they didn't invite us to come to pnq and put up pos there ? or even better, how come there are almost no xelas in your pride and you, xelas station in pnq ? your responce to this will be the usual, we live in bob space and can do what ever we like, and about that bubble at flamingo, you where not only killing UG , you where allso killing members of a corp that left the horde and was in the process of moveing out, those members where there fighting by your side, but you show us that you dont have no respect or friendship to those who where in alliance just days before. Actions and attitude of Catalyst Reaction shows a character that cant be trusted. Originally by: MoeStyles The bubble camp was simple.. Gtan and others know exactly why it was there. No illusion about the fact we were killing any UG members that attempted to get out of the system. If it slowed down their process of moving out, boo hoo.. Not our problem. On your supposed day two, the Xelas CIC reset standings to Horde per communications he had with BoB and open season on Horde was declared. And to be honest Gtan.. After all the smacking you have done in local over the last several weeks.. It couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch..
Ambiva Artemis Incorporation Order of the Khanid Crown	Posted - 2006.12.31 23:53:00 - [22] Edited by: Ambiva on 31/12/2006 23:56:24 Ok, I think I should, to post this to make everyone clear (the chatlog was posted on the ECF(EVE China Fans) site a few days ago, im the one of the forum moderator) Yeah Im not sure whether he is a farmer or not, but this ignorant guy is very, very brave here it is: [16:57:16] RachelLI > . [16:57:20] Shrike > What are you doing in delve? [16:57:22] RachelLI > hello [16:58:03] RachelLI > i'm in RF-K9W [16:58:11] Shrike > WHAT are you doing in Delve? [16:58:24] RachelLI > ratting [16:58:49] Shrike > You have exactly 5 seconds to leave and go back to Fountain. [16:59:59] RachelLI > i see here no factions and alliances [17:00:19] Shrike > HORDE are not allowed to NPC in Delve. [17:00:42] Shrike > You are allowed to TRAVEL only. [17:01:16] Shrike > No mining, no npc, no plex, no exploration, no agents, nothing, TRAVEL only. [17:01:30] Shrike > Leave now. [17:02:27] RachelLI > hey i'm not in u place [17:02:44] RachelLI > u can see map [17:03:56] Shrike > RF-K9 is DELVE. [17:04:17] Shrike > What part of LEAVE dont you understand? [17:04:20] RachelLI > but here not belong any faction [17:04:59] Shrike > DELVE is BOB space. FOUNTAIN i s BOB Space. You live here under OUR rules. [17:05:50] Shrike > This is not a discussion. Leave. [17:07:55] RachelLI > i know the rules.but i think u disunderstand the rules [17:08:10] Shrike > I MAKE THE RULES. [17:09:04] RachelLI > u?lol make a funny [17:09:48] Shrike > k, thats it [17:10:05] Shrike > The Horde will no longer be allowed in Delve nor fountain [17:11:43] RachelLI > as u wish.u can do anything!! [after] (unbearable flaming censored) ---- UG did recruit a substantial amount of farmer, but most were expelled few weeks ago according to the CEO of UG, I don't know the truth but the CEO is being blamed by quite a few ppl for the reckless recruitment (tax orianted most ppl think). Little conclusion There were frictions and conflict between the alliances. But the whole conversation simply triggered the final chain reaction done
Gtan Gallente New European Regiment	Posted - 2007.01.01 00:20:00 - [23] I guess this is why ccp put up more systems to eve, to make room for players, but those systems are different, than other 0.0 systems in eve. But it makes me wonder if this attitude of BOB can be put in petition under harassment. That is, making rules about if players of this game can do complexes, use agents, do missions, that should be a open opinion for any player of this game.
Erika Hulme 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.01.01 00:42:00 - [24] Originally by: Gtan I guess this is why ccp put up more systems to eve, to make room for players, but those systems are different, than other 0.0 systems in eve. But it makes me wonder if this attitude of BOB can be put in petition under harassment. That is, making rules about if players of this game can do complexes, use agents, do missions, that should be a open opinion for any player of this game.
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2007.01.01 00:47:00 - [25] Originally by: Gtan I guess this is why ccp put up more systems to eve, to make room for players, but those systems are different, than other 0.0 systems in eve. But it makes me wonder if this attitude of BOB can be put in petition under harassment. That is, making rules about if players of this game can do complexes, use agents, do missions, that should be a open opinion for any player of this game. I can see hours of entertainment in you.
scabbsssjr Gallente M'8'S	Posted - 2007.01.01 00:51:00 - [26] Originally by: Gtan I guess this is why ccp put up more systems to eve, to make room for players, but those systems are different, than other 0.0 systems in eve. But it makes me wonder if this attitude of BOB can be put in petition under harassment. That is, making rules about if players of this game can do complexes, use agents, do missions, that should be a open opinion for any player of this game. LOL. nothing is stopping you from doing the plexs, ratting in BOB space except normal game mechanics. IE you get shot. That is apart of the game. What is the point of taking space in wars if you can't make your own rules for that space? I can go ratting in D2 space, you know what will probally happen? They shoot me, they would tell me I am not allowed to do that their. I am in shock by you and your remark. I have more respect for celes than you and your corp after that statement. What ever I say is my own views and not of my corp.
AKULA UrQuan Caldari STK Scientific	Posted - 2007.01.01 00:55:00 - [27] Edited by: AKULA UrQuan on 01/01/2007 00:55:42 Now that must go down as a classic convo.
Clipparius Soar Angelic	Posted - 2007.01.01 00:56:00 - [28] When I lived in BoB space, the rules were simple. Delve was travel only, Fountain was open season for ratting, mining, whatever. If you don't like the rules, don't be suprised to find BoB shooting at you.
DeadProphet Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.01 01:14:00 - [29] The guy in that convo is 100% a farmer. He farmed in delve, then he joined the horde, and continued to farm in delve, only without the harassment he had before. We told him to leave time after time and he ignored it. Listen to BoB Radio
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.01.01 01:17:00 - [30] I don't know if they're a new thing, but they're appearing all over the place. They'll join a corp for standings, move to a quiet system, and stay there forever. I don't know if it's ISK selling, or if it's someone just brass necked enough to decide stuff empire missions, and stuff working with a team, I'll rake in the cash this way.

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