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Matthew Dust Valklear Legionnaires 27	Posted - 2015.10.30 10:27:40 - [1] - Quote This is a Petition requesting a status update on the future of CCP's New Eden First Person Shooter, be it DUST 514 or Project Legion during Fanfest 2016. Please sign below.
Rixx Javix Stay Frosty. A Band Apart. 512	Posted - 2015.10.30 10:53:14 - [2] - Quote A status update is overdue and would be greatly appreciated. We are all (mostly) adults here. Silence accomplishes nothing more than to create a void into which speculation is the only harvest. Rixx Javix http://eveoganda.blogspot.com
Lauresh Thellere Stay Frosty. A Band Apart. 51	Posted - 2015.10.30 10:59:50 - [3] - Quote I tend to agree, Dust has been sitting in limbo for far too long. They've been releasing updates but there doesn't seem to be a longterm plan for Dust known to the public like there is for EVE. Dust isn't even talked about at CCP events now.
Joffy Aulx-Gao Stay Frosty. A Band Apart. 49	Posted - 2015.10.30 11:15:05 - [4] - Quote I agree with this message i'd like to hear what the future plan with DUST is, PS3 is becoming very outdated so it either needs a new platform like PC or PS4 or die a slow death. I'm sorry but that's where DUST stands now. Joffy Aulx-Gao
Baldur Huren Lucifer's Hammer A Band Apart. 1	Posted - 2015.10.30 11:35:03 - [5] - Quote +1
Mila Strelok Stay Frosty. A Band Apart. 44	Posted - 2015.10.30 11:51:17 - [6] - Quote +1
Quattras Peione Vagrant Skies A Band Apart. 170	Posted - 2015.10.30 12:51:52 - [7] - Quote +1 Dr. Quattras Alvar Peione No, I'm not that kind of doctor.
Chance Ravinne WiNGSPAN Delivery Services The WINGSPAN Logo Alliance 576	Posted - 2015.10.30 12:56:33 - [8] - Quote Agreed and signed. Dust/Legion remains one of the most interesting and highest potential gaming concepts I've ever seen. If implemented correctly it could be a massive jolt for the Eve universe. Furthermore the Dust player base deserves something, anything, regarding the future of the community they've built. I included footage from Dust trailers in my CSM campaign videos because I believe in the One Universe One War idea. Here is hoping some people at the top still do, too. You've just read another awesome post by Chance Ravinne, CEO of EVE's #1 torpedo delivery service. Watch our misadventures on my YouTube channel: WINGSPANTT
Raylan Yutani Stay Frosty. A Band Apart. 0	Posted - 2015.10.30 13:18:33 - [9] - Quote Signed.
Cat Troll Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 505	Posted - 2015.10.30 18:58:21 - [10] - Quote CCPlz Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."

Arkenai Wyrnspire Turalyon One 2370	Posted - 2015.10.30 19:02:15 - [11] - Quote +1 Someone.
Morwen Lagann Tyrathlion Interstellar 1583	Posted - 2015.10.30 19:37:14 - [12] - Quote Signed. Dust Bunnies need love too, even if it's a few volleys of orbital strike rounds to the face. <3 Morwen Lagann CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar Owner, The Golden Masque
Nyjil Lizaru Aideron Robotics 40	Posted - 2015.10.30 19:40:11 - [13] - Quote Signed. Nyjil's corollary to Malcanis' Law: -á "Any attempt by CCP to smooth the learning curve of EVE Online will be carried out via the addition of extra factors and 'features' such that there is a net increase in complexity."
Bataav Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 268	Posted - 2015.10.30 20:10:57 - [14] - Quote Signed. My hope is that CCP stop neglecting what they have in order to chase the next shiney potential product, only for that in turn to share the same fate in a few years time. DUST 514 and it's players deserve better. I've noticed the vast majority of Hilmar's tweets this year (if not all) feature a picture of him wearing a VR headset, and there's no doubt that he's caught up in the VR hype, meaning Valkyrie and Gunjack are benefitting from the limelight right now. But then I remember when CCP put DUST 514 centre stage. CCP needs to dedicate the appropriate people and resources to ALL of their amazing games. All of them. They all have the potential to add something unique and special to New Eden, with EVE Online at its core. For DUST 514 that means looking to the future as the PS3 falls further behind other platforms. CCP needs to decide what they're going to do with it, if they've not done so already, and give some indication to the players who are hungry for any information they can get. Bataav Mahesha \| Intaki Liberation Front & Intaki Prosperity Initiative
DaReaper Net 7 2645	Posted - 2015.10.30 20:35:20 - [15] - Quote signed. at the very least a little blurb in what is usually 'ccp presents' will work for me. but not a 'legion is still a thing' i need more meat then that. After Valk is out the door, i expect more meat on this issue.... OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining! Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
Dennie Fleetfoot DUST University Ivy League 369	Posted - 2015.10.30 21:51:33 - [16] - Quote Appreciate any and all support from the Capsuleers on this issue. Obviously as a member of the CPM 1 & 2 (Dust's version of the CSM) I'm bound by the same NDA as the CSM so can't say more on the subject other than that the CPM have a very collabrative relationship with CCP Rattati and the Shanghai team. We just had Hotfix FoxFour and the team are working hard on Warlords 1.3 at the moment using feedback directly gathered from the player base on the forums or indirectly via the CPM. CCP's reluctance to speak publicly about a move away from PS3 is regrettable but also understandable given the PR disaster that 'Project Legions' demonstration at Fanfest 2014 turned out to be. A error on the part of CCP that has shaped the way they handle any feature or development announcement since then, with nothing now shown or promised until it's 100% deliverable. Rest assured however that the CPM constantly press for more information to be forthcoming but understand why it hasn't been yet. CCP also know that the players are hungry for more information but are unwilling to say anything until they know they can deliver. CEO Dust University www.twitter.com/DennieFleetfoot
Cormorant Fell WiNGSPAN Delivery Services The WINGSPAN Logo Alliance 0	Posted - 2015.10.31 00:45:21 - [17] - Quote Make it happen, Cap'n.
Matthew Dust Valklear Legionnaires 33	Posted - 2015.10.31 01:05:02 - [18] - Quote Chance Ravinne wrote: Agreed and signed. Dust/Legion remains one of the most interesting and highest potential gaming concepts I've ever seen. If implemented correctly it could be a massive jolt for the Eve universe. Furthermore the Dust player base deserves something, anything, regarding the future of the community they've built. I included footage from Dust trailers in my CSM campaign videos because I believe in the One Universe One War idea. Here is hoping some people at the top still do, too. Think you can get the rest of the CSM onboard?
Matthew Dust Valklear Legionnaires 33	Posted - 2015.10.31 01:09:04 - [19] - Quote Dennie Fleetfoot wrote: Appreciate any and all support from the Capsuleers on this issue. Obviously as a member of the CPM 1 & 2 (Dust's version of the CSM) I'm bound by the same NDA as the CSM so can't say more on the subject other than that the CPM have a very collabrative relationship with CCP Rattati and the Shanghai team. We just had Hotfix FoxFour and the team are working hard on Warlords 1.3 at the moment using feedback directly gathered from the player base on the forums or indirectly via the CPM. CCP's reluctance to speak publicly about a move away from PS3 is regrettable but also understandable given the PR disaster that 'Project Legions' demonstration at Fanfest 2014 turned out to be. A error on the part of CCP that has shaped the way they handle any feature or development announcement since then, with nothing now shown or promised until it's 100% deliverable. Rest assured however that the CPM constantly press for more information to be forthcoming but understand why it hasn't been yet. CCP also know that the players are hungry for more information but are unwilling to say anything until they know they can deliver. Thank you Dennie!
Chance Ravinne WiNGSPAN Delivery Services The WINGSPAN Logo Alliance 579	Posted - 2015.10.31 03:16:14 - [20] - Quote Matthew Dust wrote: Chance Ravinne wrote: Agreed and signed. Dust/Legion remains one of the most interesting and highest potential gaming concepts I've ever seen. If implemented correctly it could be a massive jolt for the Eve universe. Furthermore the Dust player base deserves something, anything, regarding the future of the community they've built. I included footage from Dust trailers in my CSM campaign videos because I believe in the One Universe One War idea. Here is hoping some people at the top still do, too. Think you can get the rest of the CSM onboard? Unfortunately I have no such sway... attempting to do so might result in a backfire in some cases! I suggest you message/mail whomever you believe may be sympathetic. You've just read another awesome post by Chance Ravinne, CEO of EVE's #1 torpedo delivery service. Watch our misadventures on my YouTube channel: WINGSPANTT

Maenth The Thirteen Provinces 24	Posted - 2015.10.31 05:26:01 - [21] - Quote I think the only reason why the Project Legion thing went bad is because they didn't say enough of "you will keep your progress and [stuff] as we progress into the future" While I understand that CCP doesn't want to say anything to upset people, they are saying almost nothing now and that constitutes neglect, which is just as bad! Wouldn't it make sense for them to follow the same pattern as EVE? Reveal ideas, get feedback, answer concerns, modify designs, repeat.. I think it's weird that CCP is communicating SO MUCH about future and progression to the capsuleers but then giving so little to the DUST peoples... especially since that again emphasizes the upsetting image of neglect! :3 Drones. Drones are a means to an end. An end to the ruthless Caldari 'progress' machines. An end to the barbaric 'redemption' proposed by the Amarr. What they see as chaos shall be my perfect order, merely beyond their comprehension.
Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 423	Posted - 2015.10.31 06:16:50 - [22] - Quote We already know they hired an outside company to convert Dust to Unreal 4 using PS4 hardware. The smoking gun was revealed some time ago, they just didn't want to comment on it especially as the evidence presented here does not mean they were not also pursuing it on PC at the same time, or had even reached a decision on that end. When you take that evidence into consideration, it doesn't guarantee the port but it does mean they have spent significant resources researching the possibility. Also, the CPM flatly refused to comment on it which pretty much guarantees it isn't some made up nonsense. Personally, I think the issue is something akin to PC being easier to develop for in terms of cost, but they want to put it on PS4 so they are trying like hell to get the funds for it through Dust and Gunjack. It's pretty well known at this stage that Rouge was never a fan of putting Dust on PC, and that was simply Hilmar giving him the terrible responsibility of relaying the decision publicly. I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to avoid actually going through with it. That's just my personal tin foil though, and I'm probably a good bit off the mark on that count.
Dennie Fleetfoot DUST University Ivy League 371	Posted - 2015.10.31 12:25:36 - [23] - Quote Kuronaga wrote: It's pretty well known at this stage that Rouge was never a fan of putting Dust on PC, and that was simply Hilmar giving him the terrible responsibility of relaying the decision publicly. I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to avoid actually going through with it. That's just my personal tin foil though, and I'm probably a good bit off the mark on that count. Without wanting to confirm or deny anything in case its misinterpreted, on this particular point you're way of the mark. CEO Dust University CPM 1&2 Member www.twitter.com/DennieFleetfoot
Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 423	Posted - 2015.10.31 16:34:40 - [24] - Quote Dennie Fleetfoot wrote: Kuronaga wrote: It's pretty well known at this stage that Rouge was never a fan of putting Dust on PC, and that was simply Hilmar giving him the terrible responsibility of relaying the decision publicly. I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to avoid actually going through with it. That's just my personal tin foil though, and I'm probably a good bit off the mark on that count. Without wanting to confirm or deny anything in case its misinterpreted, on this particular point you're way of the mark. Then we have an interesting situation as that would directly contradict statements that have been made in public at the same information level you're operating at. If you hadn't shaved off the first sentence of the paragraph I would accept the meaning behind your post a bit more easily, but considering you did I could only assume that implies direct contradiction. Not sure what to make of that, but its something to stew over. The only point of error I could see would be the mention of Hilmar as that IS an assumption on my part, but there aren't really a lot of people over Rouge I'm aware of from where he sits.
Burseg Sardaukar Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 359	Posted - 2015.10.31 22:37:09 - [25] - Quote Even if the keynote was "sorry, dudes, no one is working on it," that would at least give us some closure. That being said, I REALLY hope someone is working on it... Can't wait to dual box my Dust toon and EVE toon on the same machine!
Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 423	Posted - 2015.11.01 06:37:42 - [26] - Quote They are a business, and Dust is technically profitable. So, they aren't looking for closure, they are looking for money. In which way they decide to get that money is the question. It could come from porting, or it could come from squeezing our wallets dry until the game dies and they move onto a different project. If CCP Z had his way, it would come in the form of destroying everything you love about the game and turning it into WoW. Pray his model never reaches fruition, for the death of the game is a far better fate.
Zed Havoc Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.11.01 17:35:53 - [27] - Quote +1 Supporting this petition... Often i do things that i regret afterwards...
Ghost Kiasar Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 14	Posted - 2015.11.02 02:55:25 - [28] - Quote Communication is something we've been waiting for a while now! Director of Fatal Absolution \|\| Matari Loyalist #PortDust514, don't let things like this become a memory.
Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 423	Posted - 2015.11.02 06:02:50 - [29] - Quote Tinfoil #2 Hilmar is just really, really stubborn?
Lemmi ChillMister Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.11.03 13:58:30 - [30] - Quote Signing this. Would be nice to hear something from ccp about this!

Matthew Dust Valklear Legionnaires 38	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:25:30 - [31] - Quote I just think that they should focus on it a lot. Logically: Ratio of VR Headsets to PC/PS4 is probably 1/1,000,000,000 Ratio of successful popular dog fighting games to FPS 1/1,000,000,000 The smart move is to go with an FPS. I don't know about you but I can play DUST/EVE for hours on end, not sure I'd want to wear a headset for hours. After Fanfest focus should shift to the FPS.
Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 433	Posted - 2015.11.04 21:42:29 - [32] - Quote CCP's line of thinking is that even if almost no one has the rift, everyone who does will have their game. It's not a bad line of thought, but at most they will only be able to get a quick buck out of it. Valkyrie is not a sustainable longterm product. And hey, maybe that's something that's been recognized and discussed already. We only assume that every decision they make is in absolute ignorance.
Matthew Dust Valklear Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2015.11.06 17:56:43 - [33] - Quote To go with the rift instead of an FPS is something only expensive nerds think of. If anything people will simply move to Star Citizen. DUST is sustainable income, and will be way better on PC, honestly dust players should have subscribed to EVE in the first place, it would have caused more activity in Molden Heath and given ccp the data they needed to push the connection in the game.
Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Bleeding Sun Conglomerate 434	Posted - 2015.11.07 04:03:50 - [34] - Quote The last time I asked the devs about Dust on PC was shortly after Legion announcement. I asked about security concerns and how easy it would be to make life a living hell for others on a F2P FPS MMO via simple hacks. Saberwing admitted the entire team was well aware of the security issues, but had no real answers to give whenever he poked Rouge about it. I have to tell you, I REALLY wouldn't put your eggs in that basket. It sounded as if they had not thought out the platform issues at all.
Commander A9 The Scope Gallente Federation 666	Posted - 2015.11.07 21:42:42 - [35] - Quote Considering that the Live Events community had its leader recruited by CCP and then assigned to the DUST 514 team, you damn well bet I'm signing this petition! DUST 514 had me really excited...until I was denied the opportunity to participate as an EVE pilot since I'm not part of Faction Warfare or low-sec saavy. Legion has me interested, but the lack of info is killing me. +1 Recommendations: -enable ships wobbling in hangar view (pre-Captains Quarters) -add more missions (NPC fleet vs. NPC fleets that actually shoot) -STOP NERFING EVERYTHING! Tune in to NewEdenRadio!
Matthew Dust Valklear Legionnaires 39	Posted - 2015.11.09 16:09:24 - [36] - Quote http://jobs.ccpgames.com/careers/job-details.aspx?jobid=592 well the job is up if you know someone who loves the game
MidnightWyvern Night Theifs 115	Posted - 2015.11.10 12:51:15 - [37] - Quote Kuronaga wrote: We already know they hired an outside company to convert Dust to Unreal 4 using PS4 hardware. The smoking gun was revealed some time ago, they just didn't want to comment on it especially as the evidence presented here does not mean they were not also pursuing it on PC at the same time, or had even reached a decision on that end. When you take that evidence into consideration, it doesn't guarantee the port but it does mean they have spent significant resources researching the possibility. Also, the CPM flatly refused to comment on it which pretty much guarantees it isn't some made up nonsense. Personally, I think the issue is something akin to PC being easier to develop for in terms of cost, but they want to put it on PS4 so they are trying like hell to get the funds for it through Dust and Gunjack. It's pretty well known at this stage that Rouge was never a fan of putting Dust on PC, and that was simply Hilmar giving him the terrible responsibility of relaying the decision publicly. I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to avoid actually going through with it. That's just my personal tin foil though, and I'm probably a good bit off the mark on that count. I somehow missed that thread. Interesting information to be certain. I'll +1 this too. Nice to see how much solidarity we're getting. Hell, even seeing Mobile Depots labeled about Dust 514 anchored on various gates as I fly around. _#portDust514 Don't let interactions like this become only a memory. (EVE alt> Sarayu Wyvern. Dust 514 alt> Mobius Wyvern.)
Zed Havoc 4	Posted - 2015.11.11 17:32:58 - [38] - Quote I made this post in another thread... Often i do things that i regret afterwards...
Lathael Inner Ring Conglomerate 6	Posted - 2015.11.17 17:06:11 - [39] - Quote Signed!
Zed Havoc 6	Posted - 2015.11.30 11:25:35 - [40] - Quote This needs a bump... Often i do things that i regret afterwards...

Kador Ouryon Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 58	Posted - 2015.12.03 00:06:42 - [41] - Quote Despite the sorry state of things I still truly hope Legion does eventuate learning from the mistakes of Dust 514 but also taking from it the strong points that gathered and has partially retained such a dedicated player base. Selfishly I'd like to see vehicle game play become a bit more developed and well rounded with CCP taking the time to really delve into the modern functionality and design features of gunships (Dropships) and MBT's (HAV) to create something between simulation and non hardcore content. I know despite everything that has happened that if Legion did become a finished product I'd find my way to it pretty quickly because New Eden is a truly interesting and immersing universe. All I'd really want beyond that is something tangible to offer EVE pilots so they actually care about what we get up to.
Diametrix Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 19	Posted - 2015.12.04 00:40:41 - [42] - Quote +1 signing this petition in my old clone's dried blood, CCP! I've screamed, cried, cajoled, posted, preached and politicked this topic to death both as capsuleer and merc. I've dropped hundreds and hundreds of dollars into CCP's foray into the gravity wells of our beloved star cluster. And, the company that runs the games I've played longer than any of the thousands of others in my life, has adopted a policy of not treating me with the commitment I've offered them. I love Dust. It's worth more of my dollars. If it hadn't recently killed the second PS3 I purchased solely to play it then I wouldn't be here telling you all about it. But it did... and I realized that doing the same thing over and over - but expecting CCP to act differently is my insanity - not theirs. So, I've returned to the black cold vacuum from whence I came. And I'll loiter here in hopes that they'll finally listen and reply. But, if CCP considers this more of the same on my part I will sleep again and feed them no longer. Mine are the only dollars I can vote with but, perhaps Hilmar will listen if the bottom line eventually shifts.
Balthasar Dorian Virtus Crusade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 8	Posted - 2015.12.06 05:25:28 - [43] - Quote signed
Dag Benin Perkone Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.01.24 07:09:58 - [44] - Quote Signed
DaReaper Net 7 2748	Posted - 2016.01.26 18:37:38 - [45] - Quote signed. give us a bone of some type. OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining! Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1640	Posted - 2016.01.29 13:19:17 - [46] - Quote DUST is dead, Legion is vaporware. Sorry guys, you were screwed. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Kador Ouryon Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 102	Posted - 2016.01.31 22:51:18 - [47] - Quote Mike Adoulin wrote: DUST is dead, Legion is vaporware. Sorry guys, you were screwed. Sure. That doesn't mean we won't continue to support or advocate a port or redesign of the game.
Nofearion Tr0pa de elite. Northern Coalition. 115	Posted - 2016.02.04 11:49:44 - [48] - Quote Nofearion Stormrage - Representative of the Stormrage Clan Saffear Stormrage Malfurion Stormrage - Dust merc FearPunk Stormrage Darius Faylon
Gevlin Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 270	Posted - 2016.02.05 00:14:36 - [49] - Quote You have my support. Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
Lelira Cirim The Graduates Get Off My Lawn 270	Posted - 2016.02.05 03:50:54 - [50] - Quote Looking forward to all manner of news from Fanfest. Do not actively tank my patience.



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