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SonicCJK FireTech Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.01 04:31:00 - [1] Well i Using a Wolf at moment with this setup: High Slots: 4x 200mm II(Hails on cruisers, BC and BS and barrage on Frigs), 1x Arb Rocket Lanucher with exp rocket (extra dmg, meh) This is where it hurt the most on wolf the 2 med slots >< Med Slots: 1x AB II and 1x 90% webber(I would prefer MSE II) Lows Slots: SAR II, 200mm Tungsten Roll Plates, 2x Gyro II Well this wolf have proved itself by tanking triple saint spawn along with dual 1.8M BS spawn but anythign 1.25M+ take way too long to kill with upward to 4+ mins per BS and 2 mins less with 1.25M or lower BS, but trouble is the damn cruisers and BC supporting the BS and pounding the crap out of me with Light missles. Wat i do is warp to belt at 0km and if i close to BS spawn with cruisers or BC, i just go full speed to cruisers that within 20km range and gank them with Hails ammo then after all cruisers/BC or podded i get left with half armour left with no cap cause i have to turn AB at whole time at cruisers to less the damage from missiles and SAR II to run when they reach my armour. Then by all support npc gone, i just engage the BS and orbit 500m with hail or just run away which i dont like >< and main reason is the bloody caps, once it gone i sitting dock vs cruisers/BC, i not worried about frigs cause they alway popped first with barrage and they goes in less than 10 sec each. Point with this thread is there any way to improve my ratting by survivlability, i mean i can tank triple saint spawn and dual 1.8M spawn but with 1.8m spawn after i kill one BS i just about 20% of armour left all the time due to blooming cruise missiles ><. So any help would be great.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.01.01 05:12:00 - [2] Drake or Raven. :) Drake with a passive tank w/ Large Shield Extender II or two. Raven with: 6x Siege, NOS, Large Notos XL, 2x Invul, EM, painter, amp PDS, DCU, 3x BCS (II) Bane Torps, Valks and Warriors (5 each) in drone bay. Ravens just eat through angels. Or an AB AC Pest with Fusion L, but you'll be using a lot of ammo. 1400 Temp or Mael works too, but howies hunt a bit slower and won't hit the cruisers as easily :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Shandling Minmatar	Posted - 2007.01.01 05:17:00 - [3] Edited by: Shandling on 01/01/2007 05:17:13 Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Raven with: 6x Siege, NOS, Large Notos XL, 2x Invul, EM, painter, amp PDS, DCU, 3x BCS (II) XL II is so much better than XL. Painter helps but isn't necessary, especially since if you're 0.0 ratting you shouldn't be killing the little ships once you get a BS spawn, so you can chain BS kills. Sock Monkey Discussion
Enigmier	Posted - 2007.01.01 08:42:00 - [4] Forget using any Caldari rubbish,, get yourself into a AC Tempest for ratting those Angels if your wanting to collect loot, if your not bothered about the loot then a 1400 arty gank Tempest works well with warp to 100km
Hoshi Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.01.01 08:57:00 - [5] Originally by: Shandling Edited by: Shandling on 01/01/2007 05:17:13 Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr Raven with: 6x Siege, NOS, Large Notos XL, 2x Invul, EM, painter, amp PDS, DCU, 3x BCS (II) XL II is so much better than XL. Painter helps but isn't necessary, especially since if you're 0.0 ratting you shouldn't be killing the little ships once you get a BS spawn, so you can chain BS kills. I doubt that setup has the cpu for a XL II, you will have to go with either a CL-5 or a L II. As for the painter at least half of all angle BS including the largest ones have less than 400m sig radius so you need a painter to do full damage with torps. It's also good to kill off the spawn which have no BS in them at all to make room for BS spawns. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
Gor Kraon Minmatar Shadowclan	Posted - 2007.01.01 09:27:00 - [6] Autocannon Domi works pretty good too...
Shandling Minmatar	Posted - 2007.01.01 09:39:00 - [7] Edited by: Shandling on 01/01/2007 09:39:25 Originally by: Gor Kraon Autocannon Domi works pretty good too... As a pure Minmatar pilot, I have to say that AC's = tons of ammo... so if you're deep in 0.0, that's not the best idea unless you like hauling. Drones or Lasers FTW. Sock Monkey Discussion
Sebroth Coordination Incorporated	Posted - 2007.01.01 10:56:00 - [8] phoon the combo of drones and missiles makes that a verry nice ship. the only downside is the low explosive resistance armor have from start but I dont need more then 4 low slots and a AB for my 0.0 angel tank. ----- Never knock on Death's door; ring the doorbell and run (he hates that)
Gor Kraon Minmatar Shadowclan	Posted - 2007.01.01 10:57:00 - [9] I'd fit smartbombs over lasers... At least then you don't hit both the strongest resists angels have. If you are ratting you should have a POS or station near enough to make ammo, then that isn't a concern. Autocannons deal more damage, again due to ammo choice, on angel vs blasters (at least at comparable skills according to quickfit.) But yeah, if i had the option to use missiles on a Domi i would, which is why i flew a Typhoon instead of a Tempest for ratting before the Domi. Siege, heavy drones and heavy NOS make the Typhoon very easy to rat in, and pretty effective too.
Gor Kraon Minmatar Shadowclan	Posted - 2007.01.01 11:07:00 - [10] Originally by: Sebroth phoon the combo of drones and missiles makes that a verry nice ship. the only downside is the low explosive resistance armor have from start but I dont need more then 4 low slots and a AB for my 0.0 angel tank. Even with 7 lows nobody forces you to armor tank. Angel ratting i would fit: 4x Siege 2x Heavy NOS 2x Utility 1x LSB II 2x Invul Field II 1x PWNAGE 3x BCS II 4x Personal Flavor You could fit the utility with 2x tractor or tractor/salvager or 2x salvager, depending on what you like. Of course you could also fit just about anything else. The 4x lows i would fit with nanos and/or istabs if you want to fly around faster or warp around faster, range isn't a big deal with missiles, just for looting. If you can't sustain the tank long enough without PDS add some until you can. Only Angels that really gave me trouble in that setup were Saints because i couldn't get into NOS range fast enough if they started 50km away.

Tisanta Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.01.01 11:08:00 - [11] passive rohk, uber electron 30km of doom 3000000000000 sheild passive tank nice resists hurts them --- Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
SonicCJK FireTech Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.01 16:55:00 - [12] if anyone ever mention caldari or raven again on this post vause it a wtfpwnbbq boat for npc that fine......for noobs....i just wanna have a edge in combat personally like AC tempest so if u have that AC tempest setup then show me and, no i dont like shield tanking cause i prefer armour tank.
Mazare Mircea Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2007.01.01 18:51:00 - [13] A friend tested a shield tanked Curse with Valkyries for extended stays in 0.0 away from base. ----- Do androids dream of electric sheep ?
Amarr knight Mercenaries of Andosia Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.01.01 19:42:00 - [14] Originally by: SonicCJK if anyone ever mention caldari or raven again on this post vause it a wtfpwnbbq boat for npc that fine......for noobs....i just wanna have a edge in combat personally like AC tempest so if u have that AC tempest setup then show me and, no i dont like shield tanking cause i prefer armour tank. Like it or not, its the best ships for npcing. When u arer noob its easy, If you are pro its easier. My raven has a 3 slot tank which is more then enough for tanking 3 bs+ spawn. If u are full minmatar i suggest Typhoon. Not as effective as raven, but does the same thing. You asked for AC tempest setup. I suggest you dont use AC as in 0.0 u run solo far away from any station, which can create problem as the ammo use of AC is staggering. I would suggest using a 1400 tempest with gank setup. Go in , snipe them. Looting is a little hard but not impossible, u can use roids that are 150 km away and use them to warp close to your cans. This will cost you some time but 1400 gank tempest kills faster then AC tempest and it saves you a lot of ammo. Hope it helps.
SonicCJK FireTech Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.01 20:43:00 - [15] Ah amarr knight, last time i seen u was engagement in E02 that u alway keeping locking my wolf, shame i finish off your structure left omen off =p


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