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The Monk	Posted - 2003.11.29 14:09:00 - [1] here is a log from a player who just lost his rupture trying to enter curse. his language is really bad and i think this sort of behaviour is totaly innappopriate... ------------------------------------------------------------ Channelname: Local Listener: The Monk Session started: 2003.11.29 12:38:10 ------------------------------------------------------------ [ 2003.11.29 12:50:45 ] Vasquez > omg wtf u ** [ 2003.11.29 13:02:13 ] The Monk > your clear to pass tilta [ 2003.11.29 13:03:06 ] Tilta > i was going hunting thats all that cool [ 2003.11.29 13:03:12 ] The Monk > np [ 2003.11.29 13:28:36 ] NajZero > hi guys [ 2003.11.29 13:29:58 ] Saladin > hello naj [ 2003.11.29 13:32:24 ] Grumpf > hi guys [ 2003.11.29 13:32:36 ] The Monk > hi [ 2003.11.29 13:32:40 ] Chowdown > Hi Grum [ 2003.11.29 13:33:27 ] Saladin > how's the weather in immensea? [ 2003.11.29 13:33:46 ] Grumpf > all quiet =) [ 2003.11.29 13:33:52 ] Grumpf > ill brb [ 2003.11.29 13:42:26 ] RainMan > lo lads [ 2003.11.29 13:51:00 ] The Monk > hi [ 2003.11.29 13:55:15 ] Vasquez > *** retards [ 2003.11.29 13:55:20 ] Vasquez > im going to kill you *** all [ 2003.11.29 13:55:33 ] Lord Zap > lmao [ 2003.11.29 13:55:36 ] The Monk > gl in a pod m8 [ 2003.11.29 13:55:38 ] Lord Zap > howdy fellas [ 2003.11.29 13:55:38 ] Chowdown > snore snore [ 2003.11.29 13:55:48 ] Chowdown > hi zap [ 2003.11.29 13:55:48 ] Vasquez > the monk is going down big styley [ 2003.11.29 13:55:54 ] The Monk > lol [ 2003.11.29 13:55:56 ] VeRbLe > shh nub [ 2003.11.29 13:55:57 ] The Monk > why me [ 2003.11.29 13:55:59 ] Lord Zap > gang me plz [ 2003.11.29 13:56:02 ] Lord Zap > ¼_¼ [ 2003.11.29 13:56:18 ] VeRbLe > ¼_¼ [ 2003.11.29 13:56:23 ] The Monk > O_o [ 2003.11.29 13:56:25 ] Vasquez > cos you killed me why you think you retard? [ 2003.11.29 13:56:41 ] Vasquez > why you find it funny? [ 2003.11.29 13:56:42 ] The Monk > im reporting you for abuse [ 2003.11.29 13:56:57 ] Vasquez > so what [ 2003.11.29 13:56:57 ] The Monk > had enough of your bad language [ 2003.11.29 13:57:05 ] Vasquez > cos im going to give you abuse you killed me [ 2003.11.29 13:57:10 ] Vasquez > you tosser [ 2003.11.29 13:57:15 ] Vasquez > your gran [ 2003.11.29 13:57:29 ] Chowdown > I love a 12 year old in local [ 2003.11.29 13:57:37 ] Vasquez > ill fly back in a minute with a spoon so you can eat my ass kk? [ 2003.11.29 13:57:37 ] Chowdown > makes me horny [ 2003.11.29 13:57:43 ] Vasquez > im 18 [ 2003.11.29 13:57:48 ] Vasquez > and im british [ 2003.11.29 13:57:53 ] Chowdown > I'm a big boy too [ 2003.11.29 13:57:57 ] Pr1estess > and ghey? [ 2003.11.29 13:58:15 ] Vasquez > why is this region closed anyhow?? [ 2003.11.29 13:58:23 ] The Monk > im from mongolia [ 2003.11.29 13:58:31 ] weeeski > it's a war zone [ 2003.11.29 13:58:31 ] Vasquez > lol [ 2003.11.29 13:58:38 ] Vasquez > so what? [ 2003.11.29 13:58:43 ] DAUNGA > sound like fuget, offer his ass to anyone [ 2003.11.29 13:58:46 ] Vasquez > im nothing to do with it [ 2003.11.29 13:58:50 ] Saladin > im from the peace loving tribes of the upper volta [ 2003.11.29 13:58:59 ] Chowdown > lol [ 2003.11.29 13:58:59 ] Vasquez > get a life and pick on someone your own size nob jockeys [ 2003.11.29 13:59:25 ] The Monk > ah hum [ 2003.11.29 13:59:38 ] Vasquez > yeah [ 2003.11.29 13:59:51 ] Vasquez > this game is going to burn if *s like you carry on [ 2003.11.29 13:59:53 ] The Monk > your language repulses me [ 2003.11.29 14:00:14 ] The Monk > this game will burn with n00bs like u :( [ 2003.11.29 14:00:16 ] Vasquez > so many people are just going to stop playing and there is only going to be heads like you left playing it [ 2003.11.29 14:00:25 ] Vasquez > yeah sure [ 2003.11.29 14:00:26 ] Saladin > vasquez there are sooooo many systems protected by cops [ 2003.11.29 14:00:34 ] weeeski > vasquez...noone cares that you lost your ship...please stfu [ 2003.11.29 14:00:44 ] Vasquez > yeah but i was afk and you blow me up for ffs [ 2003.11.29 14:00:44 ] Chowdown > lol [ 2003.11.29 14:00:55 ] weeeski > don't go afk in a warzone? [ 2003.11.29 14:00:55 ] Vasquez > why bother what kind of thread was i to him [ 2003.11.29 14:01:06 ] Vasquez > your gran dog **** [ 2003.11.29 14:01:07 ] The Monk > no one likes a smart ass vasquez [ 2003.11.29 14:01:14 ] weeeski > tear [ 2003.11.29 14:01:24 ] Vasquez > i didnt know it was a ******* war zone looser [ 2003.11.29 14:01:33 ] The Monk > read the news!! [ 2003.11.29 14:01:39 ] Vasquez > well thanks for ruining this game for guys its been a pleasure [ 2003.11.29 14:01:41 ] Saladin > omg its been a war zone for over 8 weeks now [ 2003.11.29 14:01:43 ] weeeski > read forums in the last 6 months? [ 2003.11.29 14:01:44 ] Vasquez > no why should i [ 2003.11.29 14:01:44 ] weeeski > guess not! [ 2003.11.29 14:01:45 ] The Monk > cant u read god damn u [ 2003.11.29 14:01:53 ] Saladin > do you live under ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ -----------------------
The Monk	Posted - 2003.11.29 14:10:00 - [2] [ 2003.11.29 14:01:53 ] Saladin > do you live under a rock? [ 2003.11.29 14:02:08 ] Vasquez > no i dont have to spend my whole life reading ** forums [ 2003.11.29 14:02:08 ] weeeski > "ignorance is not an excuse" [ 2003.11.29 14:02:16 ] The Monk > u cant use your ignorance as an excuse [ 2003.11.29 14:02:24 ] Vasquez > with girls talking about i just wanted to play the game and have some fun [ 2003.11.29 14:02:29 ] Chowdown > guys don't indulge him anymore off [ 2003.11.29 14:02:40 ] Vasquez > but then theres heads like you who ** it up... [ 2003.11.29 14:02:46 ] Vasquez > im not [ 2003.11.29 14:02:54 ] Vasquez > no i wont [ 2003.11.29 14:02:54 ] weeeski > whaaaaaaaaaaaa [ 2003.11.29 14:02:54 ] Vasquez > you tosser [ 2003.11.29 14:03:00 ] The Monk > :/ ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ -----------------------
Ring	Posted - 2003.11.29 14:33:00 - [3] /click block Goes with the territory, If you gonna gangbang a afk cruiser with alot battleships what do you expect
The Monk	Posted - 2003.11.29 14:50:00 - [4] he wasnt afk ----------------------- ╔╤╗╒╕╔╕║║/ ║│║╘╛║╘╝║\ -----------------------
Nirvy	Posted - 2003.11.29 16:06:00 - [5] Quote: /click block Goes with the territory, If you gonna gangbang a afk cruiser with alot battleships what do you expect Anyone flying through Curse without permission, whilst AFK in cruiser deserves the Darwin award. Mercenary \| The Azath
Raucus	Posted - 2003.11.29 16:55:00 - [6] So what does this prove Monk... other than the obvious fact you are an A$$hole?
eXaro	Posted - 2003.11.29 17:15:00 - [7] "you killed the wrong guy" "omg your going to be so sorry" "im so rich im going to hire a small fleet to hunt you down" im friends with stain FA and curse and they will all be after your head "you ** * * *** * * * going to shove my *** * up your * * " ---- oh yea n00bies are verry rude. [i]Innocent child how you thought you knew me understood my ways my dark needs the hunt is not the thrill Im after I want the kill the conquest to
PoWeR1	Posted - 2003.11.29 18:07:00 - [8] Yep how sad monk u try and get him ban, Ur in a battleship and u kill a little cruiser how sad. Then again curse allience r :). Also hmm never ever saw a CA be as kind as that why dont u post the real chat log and not the edited one ffs.
Homo Erectus	Posted - 2003.11.29 18:19:00 - [9] propz to you for pasting enough local chat to cover 2 posts. more propz to you for pasting it at all instead of simply linking it. even more propz for posting, period. a petition would normally cover it, but apparently you really did want some credit. was the propz enough to cover? perhaps you need a 'good job, you are very skilled'? cute lil curse titmice.
PariahX	Posted - 2003.11.29 18:23:00 - [10] Why didn't you pod him as well? Tsk! you do a guy a favour and all you get is bad language in return. Maybe the n00b schools should do a course in good manners.
Zell	Posted - 2003.11.29 19:01:00 - [11] Quote: here is a log from a player who just lost his rupture trying to enter curse. his language is really bad and i think this sort of behaviour is totaly innappopriate... This coming from a fleet of BS gankers...lol titmice is right, (priceless Homo, ) "A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.."
Jumpin' Jon	Posted - 2003.11.29 19:58:00 - [12] Fair Play to the guy, I say. I pretty much agree with everything he said. Regardless of whether he's a n00b, or whether he's flying a shuttle, frigate, cruiser or whatever, or whether he was afk or not... Just because a bunch of guys "claim" a chunk of space, doesn't give you the right to anything as far as I'm concerned. Show me the part in the EULA that says you have to check the Forums regularly? Quote: Saladin > omg its been a war zone for over 8 weeks now weeeski > read forums in the last 6 months? Vasquez > no why should i Quite. </rant> JJ
Cell Satimo	Posted - 2003.11.29 20:35:00 - [13] Monk, While I don't condone this players offensive language (and I'd making personal comments about anyones 'gran' is way over the line), you could equally well call this title 'Experienced players should know better' given: Quote: [ 2003.11.29 13:58:43 ] DAUNGA > sound like fuget, offer his ass to anyone [ 2003.11.29 13:57:57 ] Pr1estess > and ghey? [ 2003.11.29 14:00:34 ] weeeski > vasquez...noone cares that you lost your ship...please stfu [ 2003.11.29 14:02:29 ] Chowdown > guys don't indulge him anymore **** off Which is equally offensive and quite frankly belittles any margin of superiority you are trying to show over N00b players. If you're going to have any hope of ruling the universe, you should at try acting like superior beings without falling for your own trick by reacting to provocation. You'll probably get even more of a laugh out of it as they squirm at your feet, and you'll have a decent argument for spacing them on the spot and adding their corpse to your collection of serfs. As it stands now, if this N00b was cautioned or banned, the others on local should receive the same treatment. \| Join eve-webring.com to promote your site.
PoWeR1	Posted - 2003.11.29 20:48:00 - [14] Quote: As it stands now, if this N00b was cautioned or banned, the others on local should receive the same treatment. Well said! :)
Paw Sandberg	Posted - 2003.11.29 20:52:00 - [15] Edited by: Paw Sandberg on 29/11/2003 20:53:26 Quote: Monk, While I don't condone this players offensive language (and I'd making personal comments about anyones 'gran' is way over the line), you could equally well call this title 'Experienced players should know better' given: Quote: [ 2003.11.29 13:58:43 ] DAUNGA > sound like fuget, offer his ass to anyone [ 2003.11.29 13:57:57 ] Pr1estess > and ghey? [ 2003.11.29 14:00:34 ] weeeski > vasquez...noone cares that you lost your ship...please stfu [ 2003.11.29 14:02:29 ] Chowdown > guys don't indulge him anymore **** off Which is equally offensive and quite frankly belittles any margin of superiority you are trying to show over N00b players. If you're going to have any hope of ruling the universe, you should at try acting like superior beings without falling for your own trick by reacting to provocation. You'll probably get even more of a laugh out of it as they squirm at your feet, and you'll have a decent argument for spacing them on the spot and adding their corpse to your collection of serfs. As it stands now, if this N00b was cautioned or banned, the others on local should receive the same treatment. i agree and hey i have been on the reciving end of a blocade in a shuttle. how big does it make you BS users feel to blow up a shuttle with 10 BS blocking the warp drive and podding me ?? now i dont agree with anyone cussing in any public channel but i would be SPO to Thank You Paw Sandberg for all your BPC needs see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
Homo Erectus	Posted - 2003.11.29 22:34:00 - [16] YOU GUYS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE SAYING THESE THINGS. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SAYING *YOU RULE MONK! YOU'RE AWESOME! GOOD JOB! MAN YOU REALLY SHOWED HIM!* SHAME ON YOU, PEOPLE.
Cell Satimo	Posted - 2003.11.29 22:46:00 - [17] ROFL. to be fair, I could have if they hadn't stooped so low. And I was really looking forward to a good baiting wind-up story. \| Join eve-webring.com to promote your site.
DREAMWORKS	Posted - 2003.11.29 23:11:00 - [18] All those logs for just another face in the crowd. __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
PariahX	Posted - 2003.11.30 01:07:00 - [19] To be honest I'm all for being told to ** off, as long as its in character. However being told "this game is going to burn if *s like you carry on" etc. is not in character. What The Monk did was completely legitimate even if it was "battleship ganking". Its really unnecessary to respond to abuse though - it only encourages. BTW anyone thats afk flying in 0.0 space deserves to be blown to pieces. I've done it and I got what I deserved - slap yourself on the forehead, call yourself a tt and get on with it. I do agree that you shouldn't have to read the forums to know whats going on in the Eve universe - however how else are you supposed to communicate your intentions? All the regional alliances use these forums to declare 'their' space and their protectorates. Until there is another way what can they do?
Inasnum	Posted - 2003.11.30 12:54:00 - [20] think you got what you deserved imho, its all part of the game. If I killed some noob I would expect abuse!
Fausto	Posted - 2003.12.01 08:11:00 - [21] Remember how long it took you boys and girls to get to the first cruiser? Just to be shot by some arse too scared to enter one-on-one against matching opponent. Oh, sorry, I forgot, you never worked to get a cruiser, you bought your at ebay or licked arse of some CEO to get it for free becouse mining is for suckers, right? Next time just blow something else.... Up I mean... ______ <brainpodder>
Arleonenis	Posted - 2003.12.02 00:27:00 - [22] I`m quite noobie and i was flying few times through the diffrent warzones (near NVA usually), few times i barely escaped, one time was killed by npc (noobie behaviour;), but never ever use that language to anyone. I could have a bad opinion on someones but speaking only with ******** is not immature only but rude and is really a good measure of someones inteligence and personal culture... This Vasquez is really a "cultural" guy BIG LOL
Astrid Tron	Posted - 2003.12.02 01:41:00 - [23] There is a distinct difference between IC and OOC abuse. I am quite astonished that anyone can think that OOC abuse from anyone is in order for any reason whatsoever. This should be quite obvious. Travelling through a warzone that has clearly and repeatedly been declared a warzone over a long period of time is very unwise. The rest is petty blahblah... --------------------------------------------- When you have to kill a man, it takes nothing to be polite
Newg Runecasting	Posted - 2003.12.02 03:34:00 - [24] I think part of the problem is that the guards at these "warzone" Chokepoints just Pod the people flying though, never give any warning. If you are a Noob, and you know enough aobut security ratings to check who is in the system, but don't quite understand 0.0 yet, and you just get your Shiny new Cruiser that you worked about a month for and you get blasted out of the sky for no apperent reason, I could see how someone would get upset. I (well, an Alt) was flying though trying to get to LJ-YSW today... and was Podded a few times (once by you Monk) with no Warning no "Hey.. No Travel! This is a Restricted Zone!" (at least I got that in Venal) (not that I blame you, way to hard to tell a Noob or a Alt like me vs Alt of a Stain.. Is that who you guys are fighting now? It's a problem with the game, they should have Billboards or something for Controlled areas... but that is a different rant) I don't think I even saw any Secure Cargo Cans anywhere telling people to stay away.. but they are hard to see anyway. Not everyone reads the boards to see what is "Safe" 0.0 space (and the Lack of a search feature doesn't help the noob much too!) I wound up flying in past Obe.. and no problem there :P (only to Almost dock at the Station and get podded) (oh.. before you put me and my corp on your KOS lists for sending alts into CA Controlled areas. My Corp has a hanger in LJ-YSW IV, M2 that has never been used. My goal was to toss the Alt in the station and "auction" it off for a Corp in the CA that needs a hanger there.)(Know anyone who wants one?) _______________________________ Newg Runecasting -- CEO -(o)- Red Eye
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2003.12.02 06:21:00 - [25] I dont swear and cuss at people in the game and I dont expect them to do it in return, if they do Ill petition them period. I also dont kill noobs (or not very often...you accidents happen), so maybe Ive just missed out on all the noob smack talk. That dude in local was way outta order, id have a bit more respect if you didnt retaliate, but id imagine that it is really hard. ******* Pirates
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2003.12.02 06:24:00 - [26] Quote: I think part of the problem is that the guards at these "warzone" Chokepoints just Pod the people flying though, never give any warning. If you are a Noob, and you know enough aobut security ratings to check who is in the system, but don't quite understand 0.0 yet, and you just get your Shiny new Cruiser that you worked about a month for and you get blasted out of the sky for no apperent reason, I could see how someone would get upset. Screw giving a warning pod away, its content to the game, bad language is not.
Frakri Hogsto	Posted - 2003.12.02 11:40:00 - [27] Well that ain't on if you ask me.....I don't mind winding people up a bit, but the language is all kept appropriate.....shame on you....silly n00b
Chris Reed	Posted - 2003.12.02 12:16:00 - [28] Allthough I must say that the involved parties all could use some tutoring in proper language, I really don't see anything else wrong here. If you are a n00b, you get a warning when crossing into 0.4 space or below. In that warning it is expressivly stated that nobody can assure your safety, meaning that your ship may be blown up and worse. If you as a n00b go into these places, then you have no excuse. You've seen the warning, and disregarded it. If you try to excuse yourself with not knowing about what areas that are "safe" and what's not, I don't buy that either. If you've been with the game for some time you SHOULD have heard rumours about these areas, and you SHOULD be able to check your map for ship/pod kills. If you're even newer than that you definitly should try to talk to people before entering unknown territory. If some diver from Sweden decides to make a dive at the great barrier reef and gets eaten by sharks, it does him pretty little good to complain later that he didn't know about this beeing a hostile area... With the current game mechanics PvP is difficult enough if the target wants to run. By giving him/her a fwe extra seconds you loose just about ANY chance to take him out. You could of course go for some heavy EW and stasis the poor bastard to hell, but you never know just how many warp cores he/she has anyhow...
Dark Nyte	Posted - 2003.12.02 15:37:00 - [29] a few points. 1) first if you kill ppl they are going to be angry especially if they are not used to it or first time. and you [IC] CA SCUM [/IC] are notorious for PKing every ship indy and anything u see regardless of who it is. so you are going to get abuse because you abuse people. yes this was occ abuse and not ic abuse but at first when you are a noob you are not used toi that concept and it seems like a personal attack when you are PK'd 2) Secondly his language was inappropriate, but so was some of yours. but it is obvious that it was extremified by the fact that he is helpless todo anything about it he can't coe and kill you all he has got is local channel. 3) if its so bad posting it local, why post it in forum where 300 times as many people are? (and read last paragraph b4 you reply to this point) 4) You really must realise how bad u make ppl feel from the way you do things in the CA ? I cannot belive how you think u are justified in posting this here and being proud of yourselves. (you know there are things beyond rules called fair play you know?) 5) and the worst thing is you blow the guy up lose him ages of work and then you GRASS on him like a little baby. whats your problem ? haven't you done enoght to this guy already. 6) Its not like you have never used the words he used, and in your m8s were just as bad being Homophobic (in local) whats worse in civilised society ? and above all this it is not even really about the language in local is it? you are just trying to make your self feel big again. I am tired of all this fake horror and moral rubish from ppl who use that language down the pub! Oh and a message to the forum moderators, your bad language filter doesn't work when hitting reply because i have every single f word being show to me in the box below the one i type in.
Darwpromtheus	Posted - 2003.12.03 15:32:00 - [30] Edited by: Darwpromtheus on 03/12/2003 15:38:27 Quote: 2) Secondly his language was inappropriate, but so was some of yours. but it is obvious that it was extremified by the fact that he is helpless todo anything about it he can't coe and kill you all he has got is local channel. Eve is no shoot em up but it can turn into one rather quickly and that transition is quite hard to make and cope with when u have spent weeks of trying to build up something. So of course ur gonna lash out on that A-hole that viped away ur property and indeed ur very life. Bear this in mind when ur hitting that petitionbutton in real life there is no button to press YOU will have to face the consequenses of YOUR own ACTIONS by yourself. But that¦s not true either since it is natural for people to gravitate towards institutionalized power and using it for their own needs AKA --->> Running to CCP. LOL

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