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Nafensoriel
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.01 22:46:26 -
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Define weirdo loser.
Personally 8hr/day TV watching, vapid socialite, and entitled jacknapes that you see in your local mall seem like a more typical loser than the average EVE player.
Also tell your parents that people who list EVE online experience in their resume have actually gotten jobs out of it. Quite regularly in fact. Many aspects of this game mimic real world skillsets and shockingly enough plenty of companies out there are figuring this out. |

Nafensoriel
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.01 23:16:52 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Listen to your parents.
They care more about you than any one here on these forums or in the game ever could.
You are part of them, we're imaginary pixels who want to use you for our own benefit.
To your parents: Your success is theirs.
To us: Your success is our entertainment.
You're young so the part of your brain that handles abstract reasoning isn't fully developed yet, so you WILL NOT understand. You're incapable of seeing the reality of what's at play, and all you see is the sliver of what your ability to perceive lets you see.
Acquiesce to the ones who have your true best interests at heart.
Good Luck, and know to ignore their advice now will only hurt you in the later.
As disturbing as it is to point out... Parents often do not have their childs best interests at heart. I know we like to hope(especially when we are the parents) that this is true but a not so insignificant minority of parents have other priorities in life above that of their children. This has been proven and played out in countless studies and general social common sense.
Additionally from a psychological standpoint you want your children to challenge, question, and develop their own opinions of things.. even including your rules and manner of raising them. Note this doesn't mean stomp all over your parents. It just means if you set a curfew for your daughter and she asks why have an answer ready that is more honest than "just because I said so". Kids challenge us because they subconsciously are learning HOW TO BE PARENTS from us. Weird but true heh.
All relationships, even parental, are give and take.. we learn together how to react and grow socially. Dogmatic absolute situations often lead to hurt, misunderstanding, and lack of social openness.
/edit stupid me hit the button by mistake To make a final comment dont ever assume age denotes ability to understand. My cat understands social situations. So does your kid. Even babies learn to identify social behavior. What our youngsters can't do is reference our insane amount of MISTAKES that we call experience. Understanding without experience is a dangerous thing.. its our job to see they understand the gravity of choice... not to make choice for them. |

Nafensoriel
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.02 00:19:09 -
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Funny how people assume everyone they dont agree with is somehow younger and never apparently have any children.
The kind of misinformation that a parent has an automatic right to micromanage a childs life is mentally insane. We guide. We teach. We warn. Automatically assuming you know best always and forever without fail is a surefire way to lead your child down dangerous paths. It's a cheap dominance trait. Does a child know more about life than we do as parents? No. They havent experienced life yet in any volume yet to allow them to know. Does this mean they cant understand the concepts? No. Does this mean they have no right to question? Hell no. There is a fine line between being a parent and being a warden.
As to parents not valuing their children as number 1 priority.. well I guess this is just a factor of education or lack there of. This is a fact. A significant majority of young parents actually find their children a burden to their lives. Mostly due to rushing into it to meet fake social needs or general lack of understanding of what being a parent means. Want a brutal example? One of my coworkers has never said a kind word about his son in 12 years. He does all the right parent things(school, sports, social events) but he never mentally wants to be there. The reason? He never wanted children. He socially caved to his wifes wishes because "happy wife happy life and I can deal with it for 18 years". Stop pretending every family is a fairy tale of perfection and realize we are all a big pile of screwed up trying to figure out each other as human beings. |

Nafensoriel
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.02 00:45:29 -
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Eh Ralph I'm Canadian and quite impossible to anger no matter what tone my post seems like :).
I'm also a bit of an ass and love debates.
Legal rights though are variable.. we generate them when some bright jacknape does something so terrible or stupid that the rest of us attempt to make every other idiot not do that thing :D. |

Nafensoriel
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.02 17:15:22 -
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Tyyler DURden wrote:Nafensoriel wrote:Funny how people assume everyone they dont agree with is somehow younger and never apparently have any children.
The kind of misinformation that a parent has an automatic right to micromanage a childs life is mentally insane. We guide. We teach. We warn. Automatically assuming you know best always and forever without fail is a surefire way to lead your child down dangerous paths. It's a cheap dominance trait. Does a child know more about life than we do as parents? No. They havent experienced life yet in any volume yet to allow them to know. Does this mean they cant understand the concepts? No. Does this mean they have no right to question? Hell no. There is a fine line between being a parent and being a warden.
As to parents not valuing their children as number 1 priority.. well I guess this is just a factor of education or lack there of. This is a fact. A significant majority of young parents actually find their children a burden to their lives. Mostly due to rushing into it to meet fake social needs or general lack of understanding of what being a parent means. Want a brutal example? One of my coworkers has never said a kind word about his son in 12 years. He does all the right parent things(school, sports, social events) but he never mentally wants to be there. The reason? He never wanted children. He socially caved to his wifes wishes because "happy wife happy life and I can deal with it for 18 years". Stop pretending every family is a fairy tale of perfection and realize we are all a big pile of screwed up trying to figure out each other as human beings. Dude is it possible you're reading into **** a bit too much? Most people posting here are telling the OP to buck up and show his parents a little respect and maybe go outside or something. I don't think anyone is specifically disagreeing with you rather then just being a little surprised to read these big pontifical post's from some rank & file goon when they're used to **** jokes and inappropriate links to furry animal porn from your contemporaries.
This is slightly off topic to the thread but honestly still sort of valid to the discussion. I usually dont like answering in personal fashions.
Oh a professional note no I'm not reading into it to much.. What is happening however is you are responding emotionally to intentional subtexts. I work professionally as an arbitrator and mediator typically in situations where one side has seriously boned themselves with a major spill or chemical release. These types of cases often involve people who do not know what the chemicals are or what they will do and often do not understand "what the big deal is". They also involve overzealous EPA agents and legal teams that can't for the life of them understand that people make honest mistakes and genuinely want to find a solution for said mistake. Thanks to all that experience in controlling a debates emotions and flow I tend to write passionately flowered words and subconsciously push a readers emotion in a specific direction. In retrospect its something I should probably control more outside of work. Still I'm awesome at capturing and elevating a crowd especially at trade shows :).
I can say with absolute certainty that not once in my entire eve career have I ever been angry or even marginally upset at anyone within this game/forum regardless of my expressed tone. It's just habit to add those emotions in. |

Nafensoriel
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.02 20:23:58 -
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No its a basic of logic. Seriously this is a video game. Its online. Literally nothing a person can do in EVE can impact me unless I explicitly choose to have it impact me. If you blow up my shiny toy or take all my stuff.. I still explicitly allowed it.
It's functionally very hard to get angry at someone for doing something I allowed them to do. It's also the main selling point of the entire game. EVE uses people to replicate what other games use AI for. Our pirates are real people. Our heros are real people. Our truckers are real people. Hell even our bosses are actual bosses. The only major difference is the currency we are paid with is interest and entertainment.. If we find what someone offers us interesting and entertaining then we pay them with our time.
If you actually get angry or upset over anything game related then you need to sit down and evaluate what is causing your anger. Chances are its due to you forgetting it's a game and that you are only a tiny fraction of that game. Sandboxes are cool because we decide who we are in them.
Now if you could slash my tires or break a window from EVE.. well then I'd have to dispense with a little Albertan Badlands Justice. |
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