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j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.02 01:02:00 -
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"2. We havent called on them yet"
Isn't then relying on their presence and performance like on some kind of deus ex machina... pretty much counting your chickens before they hatch, then..?
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j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.02 01:33:00 -
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"Well thats the thing j0sephine....... it seems AAA don't even have to perform. The mere possiblity of them getting stuck into this IAC <> ISS war was sufficient for MC to want their contract rewritten... in the form of more ISK and a "better plan"."
MC wishing to adjust the contract in light of such change is very sensible imo -- they are mercenaries after all, if they are expected to do more than what they're initially hired for then quite naturally they will ask to be paid to match that.
Since ISS is also business entity they are likely to understand the concept pretty well. The thing not mentioned in this thread is, if/once the mercs are paid then they pretty much have to stick to it because their credibility (and future contracts) are at stake. On the other hand an ally that just joins the bandwagon because they have nothing better to do... has no obligation to stay if something more interesting or hitting closer to home pops up.
I can see why ISS would want to cut down their ptential war expenses through this sort of ceasefire offer, but if the offer is rejected then it's imo premature to presume it's some sort of easy "everyone vs ISS" turkey shooting. While it appears this presumption is to large extent driving current attitude of IAC... hence my counting chickens comment.
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j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.02 02:04:00 -
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"You have misjudged IAC if you think an offer for a (virtual) material object will make them put aside there belief's/feelings that ISS wronged them in the first place."
[ 2007.01.01 20:54:47 ] Tyrrax Thorrk > well peace might be possible, but IAC would have to be compensated
[ 2007.01.01 20:56:14 ] Tyrrax Thorrk > compensated is a subtle word for bribed
[ 2007.01.01 20:56:51 ] Tyrrax Thorrk > Yeah but IAC doesn't like ISS, without compensation I don't see that changing
it appears at least some of the key IAC members don't share your view on IAC priorities ^^
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j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.02 02:13:00 -
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"Well I don't think predicting an "everyone vs ISS" turkey shooting is the correct way to put it... I'm not sure if you misunderstood my post."
No, i understand what you were saying; my point was more to effect, in contrast to your view at least in this thread there seems to be running attitude of "ISS are ****** because they lost all their allies and we still have all ours, shoot them, shoot them. Oh and AAA will make them all call for their uncle once we call on them"
note, even your own equation relies on their actual presence to a degree:
"MC cancelled out by AAA (or at least made it expensive enough for ISS to think twice before being able to afford it (..)"
which makes the AAA being there quite crucial to maintain any kind of equal footing in the overall situation and/or put extra pressure on ISS money flow. And until they actually appear, that financial pressure is the only effect their theoretical involvement is going to have.
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j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.02 04:09:00 -
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"what wins wars is willpower. The commitment to see an objective through till the end. And it sure seems like IAC have plenty of that."
tbh after that negotiations log posted in the thread this seems to be at least in part the propaganda take on things from IAC: "zeal vs isk counters", natural counter-balance to ISS' own "neutrals vs warmongers" propaganda approach.
Well either that or Tyrrax is just marching to beat of different kettle of fish... :s
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