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CCP Shadowcat C C P C C P Alliance 95	Posted - 2015.11.03 09:50:39 - [1] - Quote Parallax has been successfully deployed on November 3 during a slightly longer downtime. Parallax delivers the much anticipated "Brain in a Box" performance improvement, as well as further fine tuning on sovereignty, jump fatigue reductions, a new opt-in probe scanning map, new ship skins and many more small changes. The full details of all changes and improvements are available in the Parallax patch notes. Please post general feedback and discussions in this thread. Report issues with the release on the PC in the Parallax issues thread. For Mac users, there is, as always, a thread on the Macintosh forums for discussion of this release here. CCP Shadowcat (=^n+Ñ^=) Señor German Linguistic Owner \| @CCP_Shadowcat


CCP Lebowski C C P C C P Alliance 662	Posted - 2015.11.03 13:00:48 - [2] - Quote The new scanning interface should now be enabled. Check your ESC menus under "General Settings" - you should now see a box called "Try The New Probe And Directional Scanners". CCP Lebowski \| EVE Quality Assurance \| Team Five-0 @CCP_Lebowski


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2752	Posted - 2015.11.03 14:34:17 - [3] - Quote Yana Shakti wrote: Thanks CCP. You guys put out a hell of a game. Its current state is impressive and your plans for the future even more so. That said, the new d-scan needs a fair bit of work. Please remember that the d-scan is not a work of art. It's one of the most important combat tools in the game. A pvp player lives or dies by their dscan since it's the main source of real-time situational awareness: * Did that Enyo just warp in together with that Merlin? There was no fight? Why not? Maybe they're together... * Where is that Sabre now? At the gate? Nope. At a nearby pounce? Found him. * Who's within 5AU of me? Within 1AU? * Where's that Venture? Nope not dead ahead. So scan as I warp.... ok Belt 4. Bouncing. The d-scan needs to be hair-trigger responsive and to offer real-time rolling intel. Your new version sure is pretty. But it doesn't take into account the cognitive dimension of the HUD tool. It doesn't swing around in space nearly fast enough. And it doesn't let the player change course and activate ship modules simultaneously as they gather intel. Or so it seems to me. Please make sure to keep letting us use the old version while you bring the new one up to scratch. Peace, love and autocannons. I'm not sure I follow. The Directional Scanner hasn't changed mechanically at all. It moves in space at the same speed as your camera. Please provide some examples of it not working as you used to? Could this just be a feel thing? CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2752	Posted - 2015.11.03 14:37:45 - [4] - Quote Jack Hayson wrote: A few remarks about the new probe thingy: Hotkey for the scan button only works when focused on the probe scanner window. Makes it kinda useless while scanning because you are focused on the map when moving the probes around. You'd have to click on the probe scanner window and THEN the hotkey works, but at that point you might as well just click the analyze button. you can't resize the probe range by dragging the edge of the spheres when you are zoomed in to far. You have to zoom out until you see the entire scan area. can't drag probes around properly because the mouse-over popup of the probes keeps getting in the way Other than that it seems to work. For point 1 - noted, will take this back to the team. Point 2 - I believe this is a defect and have reported it as such. Point 3 - I recommend you remove Probes from your "Marker" list at the top left of the map. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2752	Posted - 2015.11.03 14:39:00 - [5] - Quote Haffsol wrote: What's the hotkey for scanning/analyzing? I mean where is it in the shortcut menu and how's named? Shortcuts > Combat > Refresh Directional Scan // Refresh Probe Scan CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2752	Posted - 2015.11.03 14:42:35 - [6] - Quote Sul Glass wrote: 1/ Please can d-scan transparent circle NOT be red like cosmic sigs are red? 2/ please can we have d-scan open without transparent red circle? 3/ please can all remaining cosmic sigs remain showing in probe scanner and space after one has been fully scanned (having to ctrl A now to see them again). This is retrograde. 4/ Having to click twice to launch my current formation of probes, this is retrograde too. 5/ The separate screen/solar system map is impossible, you have to chose between seeing all your windows open or having a max map screen . if you do that you can not see; ds, local overview, chat and modules in view. Its been 1/2 hour its driving me crazy Thank you. Sul. Thanks for the feedback! 1 - Will take it back to the team if there is enough interest in it 2 - Have requested this 3 - As in, have the list default to not holding your selection after you scan? This was a bug that we fixed in the old system. Will see if this becomes popular as a point as it's an interesting situation 4 - This is a custom, saved formation, yes? 5 - Would I be correct in saying that your issue is in fact that the map hides the HUD when in fullscreen mode? CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2752	Posted - 2015.11.03 14:43:09 - [7] - Quote Sul Glass wrote: 6/ what's with the big 3d red arrows on resizing the probe radius?????? thay add nothing but confusion. They are for people who are using a key modifier to resize rather than picking the sides of the probe bubble. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2752	Posted - 2015.11.03 14:46:54 - [8] - Quote Lamajagarn McMyra wrote: Love the look of the new d-scan and probe map, functionality is not to shabby either. There are some things i would like to see improved before willingly swapping over full time tho. Ability to filter out cosmic signatures etc, tried combat probing for ships but still had cosmic signatures in scan window after deselecting them from filter list. Moving probes around is sometimes hindered by planets etc causing pop up menu when "probe center" overlaps with planet. Changing size of probes, feels a bit harder than in old map using the way of just draging in the edges. The possibility to click a celestial in map and have camera turn there is great, if it would also be able to center on anomalies it would be even more useful. Would also be nice if this function was available in full screen map (maybe it is and i just failed). Thanks for the feedback! I can't reproduce the signature filter issue - are you manually ignoring the signatures, or are you using the filter list? Did you create your own custom filters at all? When you say "pop up menu", do you mean the tooltip allowing you to select the planet? Changing probe size has a few new tricks to it for sure, but might I suggest jumping into the Shortcuts > Combat settings and binding the Decrease / Increase Probe Scan Range commands that we put in? You can of course continue to use the manual resize, or the keyalter resize, but I find the keyboard shortcut to be the most efficient myself. As to the anomaly centering, we are going to wait and see if a lot of others request this before making any decision one way or the other. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2752	Posted - 2015.11.03 14:47:48 - [9] - Quote Elana Apgar wrote: The new Directional Scan looks nice, HOWEVER you took away the conversion from KM to AU and that IS TERRIBLE. Taking the KM to AU conversion away is making the game regress instead of progress. Please add that back in. We didn't, buddy. Just click the button where it says AU and it will become KM. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2752	Posted - 2015.11.03 14:48:47 - [10] - Quote Thaly wrote: When using the new scanning map in full screen, can we have the ship readouts/modules/control panel thingy that we usually have when using the beta map? Just out of interest (others feel free to answer too), would you rather that it always happened, or that it was a toggle? CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath



CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2752	Posted - 2015.11.03 14:50:25 - [11] - Quote Carrion Crow wrote: Initial D-Scan feedback: 1. Why change the location of the scan button? Having the call to action button to the top left ( instead of the right ) is unusual - we expect it to be on the right. 2. New scan button has an animation - this is unnecessary and makes it feel slow. We're used to hammering constantly on D-scan - this makes it feel super clunky. 3. Like the filters Initial probing window feedback: 1. Can we go back to solid background colors? The underline instead of the block color makes it much harder work to see what the actual anom/sig it is. More scanning practice to do. "Hammering constantly on D-scan" - you might enjoy the keyboard shortcut called "Refresh Directional Scan" that we put into the Combat Shortcuts menu :) CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2752	Posted - 2015.11.03 14:51:04 - [12] - Quote Lara Sunji wrote: Probe window is too dark. For some reason it completely ignores my ui settings. Looks ugly. UI settings for transparency and pinning yeah? We have a defect on this just now. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2752	Posted - 2015.11.03 14:53:34 - [13] - Quote Ventis Remiss wrote: I like the improvements on the probe scanner. - Mousewheel to resize the AU distance. - Been able to see a bubble that reflect the range and angle set on my DSCAN around my ship. - When I have deselect all the unneeded object, it seems faster. Although, I don't like: - underlying a signature instead of having a solid green bar. It make it harder to just glance to see change. It seem like cosmetic change for cosmetic change. There no plus for us there. - Having to select a formation instead of having the last selected one as default. Forgot to carry good fonctionalities to the next version? - I can no longer refresh my probe scanner screen. What's the refresh rate of the probe scanner? Will any new object appear immediatly on my probe scanner? That last question is a crucial survival thing in WH. Keep up the the good work. Thanks Having the last selected formation be autoselected is definitely something we overlooked from what I can see. Will raise a defect on it. How were you refreshing the old screen? We haven't changed anything mechanically in that regard. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2752	Posted - 2015.11.03 14:55:45 - [14] - Quote Durzo Flint wrote: There really, really, needs to be an option to turn off the "cosmic signature" tool tips when mousing over one, it steals your cursor and makes moving your probes very difficult. After about 5 seconds of using the probe scanner, everyone's gonna figure out that all the red dots are cosmic signatures. Once we move our probes over a cosmic signature, the red dot steals the control of your mouse cursor and you can no longer adjust your probes using the cube in the middle. Also, why was the crosshair cursor removed from the probe scanner? It was better than a pointer in my opinion. Also, can an option be made to use just one of the new scanners? A few of my corp members like the new d-scan, but not the probe scan.... but you can't use one without the other. Would a customisable delay on the tooltips serve equally well here? Right now there is no option to use one new scanner and not the other. The old systems will be removed in an upcoming release, so we will not be adding in further opt-in/opt-out options relating to the new system at this time. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2753	Posted - 2015.11.03 14:57:50 - [15] - Quote Niss Tymbrimi wrote: It's rare for me to post here, but wanted to offer my kudos to the team who implemented the probe scanner and d-scan changes. Easily the single best quality-of-life improvement I've ever personally experienced in the game; mind you I live in wormholes and scan more than anything else I do so perhaps this really hits home for me more than some. Absolutely awesome job. There seem to be minor display bugs here and there which I'll assume we can report and will get fixed up over the coming days (for me, it's mostly the probes disappearing on the scanning map...however just hitting alt to resize, without resizing...just hitting the button, seems to fix it for the moment). I'm not sure what the other posters are referring to - the DScan hotkey works fine for me regardless of where the focus is for what it's worth. In fact, it sometimes screws with me if the focus is on the DScan window as pushing the hotkey will invoke a search on the pull-down list of presets rather than do the dscan :) Bang up job. Will be playing and scanning all day just to revel in the glory of what I'm seeing here. I for one welcome our new scanning window overlords. o7 ~N Thanks. Please do keep those bug reports coming - feel free to mention my name in the title if they relate to probe scanning and directional scanning, and the new solar system map. We know about the oft-disappearing picker - most annoying... The other posters are referring to the Analyze button in the Probe Scanner rather than D-scan, which currently doesn't function if the Probe Scanner window isn't active.. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2754	Posted - 2015.11.03 15:18:42 - [16] - Quote jax Aishaik wrote: i cant launch my account it gets stuck on a black screen Please file a support ticket and mention if you had injected a Blood Raider Cerebral Accelerator CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2754	Posted - 2015.11.03 15:25:09 - [17] - Quote Ventis Remiss wrote: CCP Goliath wrote: Ventis Remiss wrote: I like the improvements on the probe scanner. - Mousewheel to resize the AU distance. - Been able to see a bubble that reflect the range and angle set on my DSCAN around my ship. - When I have deselect all the unneeded object, it seems faster. Although, I don't like: - underlying a signature instead of having a solid green bar. It make it harder to just glance to see change. It seem like cosmetic change for cosmetic change. There no plus for us there. - Having to select a formation instead of having the last selected one as default. Forgot to carry good fonctionalities to the next version? - I can no longer refresh my probe scanner screen. What's the refresh rate of the probe scanner? Will any new object appear immediatly on my probe scanner? That last question is a crucial survival thing in WH. Keep up the the good work. Thanks Having the last selected formation be autoselected is definitely something we overlooked from what I can see. Will raise a defect on it. How were you refreshing the old screen? We haven't changed anything mechanically in that regard. Thanks for your reply! To answer your question: You had to select All in the drop list in the filter field and it refreshed the Windows. That action was suggested to be able to see the "new" ghost site at the time it was introduced. Keep the good work! I used to hit "show anomalies" twice myself :) Just double tapping any number 1-5 with the window active should theoretically do this (applies and then removes a quick filter) with the new system, but it's not something I've specifically tried out at this time. Be sure to let us know if there is a degradation in functionality here (though if there is I'll likely find it in my wormhole tonight! :D) CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2754	Posted - 2015.11.03 15:26:57 - [18] - Quote Niss Tymbrimi wrote: CCP Goliath wrote: We know about the oft-disappearing picker - most annoying... The other posters are referring to the Analyze button in the Probe Scanner rather than D-scan, which currently doesn't function if the Probe Scanner window isn't active.. Ah, interesting...I didn't even notice this. I suspect it's because the process I use while scanning is accidentally always leaving focus on that window so it seemed fine :) Also love the hotkeys for the filters in the Probe Scanner window, absolutely love the toggle to flip between camera orientation and free-move with the dscan display (took me a minute to get my head around what was going on but holy crap once it clicked I was stunned) and the list goes on... I'm sure some of the things being raised in this thread will improve it even more but for the moment, rose coloured glasses and all that --- it's such a dramatic improvement over what we had before I'll be willing to put up with much inconvenience in the meantime. Be aware though that one bit of fallout from this change is that as fast as I was at finding someone at a safe in space by manually range-finding, we can now do it with blinding efficiency. I welcome this as the whole "finding people" thing is one of the things I really enjoy in the game, but it is going to be much faster than it was previously to get those combat probes with small radius on someone in a heartbeat. Lookng forward to the resulting mayhem :) ~N Fair few things are "hidden", and will all be explained in our dev blog going out tomorrow. Will be keeping an eye on the d-scan feedback in terms of how fast it feels. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2754	Posted - 2015.11.03 15:27:34 - [19] - Quote Lara Sunji wrote: No d-scan filters? Wait I'm blind, or colorblind. Yeah might be the latter. It's moved to be in the same bar as Scan Results - hit "Active Overview Filters". CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2754	Posted - 2015.11.03 15:27:56 - [20] - Quote Ben Musana wrote: A small issue When stacking Probe Scanner and Directional Scanner (text view) together (Probe first window) and jumping thorugh a gate or docking/undocking station the Probe window will always be selected / shown. It completly ignores the previous selected window. Regards Just picked this up in the Issues thread. Definitely not intended CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath



CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2754	Posted - 2015.11.03 16:30:30 - [21] - Quote Heading out soon. Just wanted to post the current list of confirmed issues for Probe Scanning, Solar System Map, Directional Scanner and Beta Map from today's release. Probe Scanner window background doesn't obey transparency and pinning coloring D-scan visualisation is not toggleable (workaround: Close D-scan window) Probe Scanner Window becomes active after each session change when stacked Signature List in Probe Scanning Window snaps to top after each scan Probe Scanner width settings are not retained Probe control box does not always display to users (Workaround, press Shift) Probe Scanner filter hotkeys react negatively with Save Location (Workaround, don't use numbers in BM names) Signatures in map no longer appear after one has been selected Now takes 2 clicks to launch Custom Formation Beta Map appears all white when used when docked for some users (Workaround: Undock, or use old map) Solar System Map in full screen mode covers up HUD Keyboard shortcut for Dscan refresh works only when dscan window is not active if bound to a letter Don't panic if you've given feedback and it isn't on this list. Some issues we want to wait with and see if a lot of people react similarly or differently before deciding on a course of action. Also note that just because a defect has been raised, doesn't mean it will get fixed in the way you imagined. Thanks so much for all the feedback and bug reports today - more tomorrow! CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2768	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:37:04 - [22] - Quote Salina Roden wrote: Hi! The new probe scanner looks awesome in principle, however I have a major problem with it. When your cube that represents all drones lands behind an icon for a moon, belt or anything else (considering I already turned displaying probes off), I cannot click and drag to move my probes AT ALL when trying to drag around the cube. I had situations in Systems where all 4 arrows AND the cube were covered by icons, which made the probes unmovable. it would be awesome if the icons and the popups that show up were not layered OVER the cube and arrows that move your probes, otherwise using the new probing system seems to be quite problematic! You could try toning your tooltip sensitivity down a little. That's what I have done and it works like a charm, with no real impact to the remainder of my functionality in the game yet. We are going to take a second pass at layering, but I strongly recommend trying this out nontheless. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2768	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:38:48 - [23] - Quote Bienator II wrote: i already wrote that in the scanning feedback thread long time ago:i really dislike that you changed the position of the scan button to the upper left corner. It is very unusual to have a button of the primary window function on that location. there are UI conventions which should be maintained whenever possible, just like the post button of this forum is in the bottom right not on the top left - everyone expects it there without even reading the text on it. Do you mean the Directional Scanner? There is a hotkey now for it if you don't care for the button position. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2768	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:40:14 - [24] - Quote Gunz blazing Ronuken wrote: Can you please put the scan button somewhere not in the farthest away corner in the scan window? I miss the old scan ui in that way, I like the idea with the scan window that you can have as a extra windwow so you can see grid around your ship while scanning if you want to. after a few scans some sigs i cant get scanned beyond 3-5% , im not sure if you made the sigs harder to scan or its my newbieness with the new scan u.i thats causing it perhaps. Omg the override dynamic music button is the best feature ever! Devs you are the best! It made me raise the music volume by 50% thats got to say something? Can you submit a bug report about the scanning %? Particularly if you use Virtue implants. Thanks. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2768	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:40:59 - [25] - Quote Ohno no Borrox wrote: CCP Lebowski wrote: The new scanning interface should now be enabled. Check your ESC menus under "General Settings" - you should now see a box called "Try The New Probe And Directional Scanners". Can only drag probes up down left right back and forwards, not in 2 dimensions as with old interface... I'm guessing if this aint fixed people aint gonna us it The box selection? You absolutely can - there might be an issue where you need to select one of the arrows before it works though... We'll fix that if we find it to be the case. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2768	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:41:38 - [26] - Quote Trajan Unknown wrote: It seems I am not really able to use my beloved beta map anymore. In station I can-¦t see anything on it total black or total white with some geometric, white figures when I zoom in/out. Looks like triangles or so but it-¦s just flashing so I am not really able to see what it and didn-¦t spent too much time to figure that out. When I am in space the map is too laggy to use. Restartting, enabling, disabling and so on and so forth the beta map didn-¦t work out. Fullscreen or other option for the map didn-¦t work either. Literally, when I open the map my screen is locked. It looks like the game is losing synchronisation when I open the map because the map wants to update my position in space all the time and since there is the 1second server tick the map can-¦t handle the input in time and it becomes "laggy". Changing the intervals in settings helps a little bit with the best performance on interval 1 and the worst on 4 and immediate. This made me thinking even more there some out of sync issue here between server refreshing my position in space and on the map. Hope this helps a little to understand what is happening. I will keep an eye on the this topic and answer any upcoming questions. Last but not least I am using the beta map since it came out and never looked back for a single session and never had any issues until today. I feel like I replied to you in the Issues thread already, but just in case - this was an issue that we fixed in today's update. Sorry for the inconvenience. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2768	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:42:46 - [27] - Quote Lara Divinity wrote: restarted the game to see if it would fix the angle of dscan on the solar system map it doesnt it just stays a red circle only the size changes i doesnt switch to the angle ur selecting whats up with that? why do u shove this changes down our throats while the old was working perfectly??? You might want to uncheck "Align Directional Scanner with Camera" which you can find in the Solar System map, 3rd from the top left. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2768	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:45:23 - [28] - Quote Ahed Sten wrote: - The Dscan "circle" when in 360 degree scan is 2D. WHY is it 2D? It's extremely bad for the situational awareness, and I must pan the camera around for a few seconds to figure out exactly what is covered by the scan. This could be fixed instantly by turning the circle into a 3D sphere. - Unless i'm missing something, why are you now separating the scanning window from the system window, like the old map? The issues we have with the new map aren't with the concept, just the implementation. The map is cluttered, the icons stack and scanning feels more clunky than it used to with the old map. Some fine tuning and detail was needed, not an entirely separate map. This has fixed none of the previous issues. - Why can I not see my modules in either the scanning map or the system map anymore? I'd like to know if I've been decloaked while orbiting a gate, without having to exit the scanning map. - Why can't the scan UI's scale in transparency? That's ******* annoying. +- The Dscan visualization is a nice thought but largely unnecessary for anyone that knows how Dscan works. + Thank you for implementing a drop-down list for probes. I don't care about seeing them, never have. This saves precious UI space. + Scanning filters are better implemented than they were. + Everything listed in scan results is looking much slicker. At first glance, a few nice features. Mostly, you're fixing things that weren't broken. PLEASE bring back the single map 1. Please deselect "Align Directional Scan to Camera" (3rd option in the top left of the solar system map). 2. Feedback overwhelmingly dictated that the windows should be separate. There are a lot of filters to reduce clutter in the top left hand corner of the solar system map. 3. This is an issue we have rasied. 4. Issue that was fixed in today's deployment CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2768	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:47:27 - [29] - Quote jumpstar wrote: CCP Goliath wrote: Ventis Remiss wrote: I like the improvements on the probe scanner. - Mousewheel to resize the AU distance. - Been able to see a bubble that reflect the range and angle set on my DSCAN around my ship. - When I have deselect all the unneeded object, it seems faster. Although, I don't like: - underlying a signature instead of having a solid green bar. It make it harder to just glance to see change. It seem like cosmetic change for cosmetic change. There no plus for us there. - Having to select a formation instead of having the last selected one as default. Forgot to carry good fonctionalities to the next version? - I can no longer refresh my probe scanner screen. What's the refresh rate of the probe scanner? Will any new object appear immediatly on my probe scanner? That last question is a crucial survival thing in WH. Keep up the the good work. Thanks Having the last selected formation be autoselected is definitely something we overlooked from what I can see. Will raise a defect on it. How were you refreshing the old screen? We haven't changed anything mechanically in that regard. you used to be able to tick and un tick anomalies to manually refresh probe window to show new Sigs. Maybe we can actually add a button to refresh probe window? This is important as when warping around a system the probe window does not automatically update distances from you to anoms or sigs. This comes into play while hunting from dscan to know what sigs and anoms are in D-scan range. Yup that's what I did too :) Refresh button is an interesting notion, but a guaranteed, smart refresh would be better. Will discuss with CCP Colgate. I suggest using the tactical overlay to let you know what sigs and anoms are in D-scan range, btw. It shows in the Solar System map. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2768	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:48:43 - [30] - Quote Copper Rei wrote: I heard nothing but hate toward the new scanning options and the beta map. It appears that CCP is trying to force out the old and make us use the new map with all it's fancy icons and labels. I hate it. I know of no pilot who likes it better than the old map. Please stop trying to fix what was not broken. You can only break it. Today I log in to find my scanning probe window all changed and labels gone so my sorting doesn't work, and I bring up F10 map and there are no probes on screen when deployed. The probes show up on the F9 map but that map is windowed and does not behave like the old map which can do full screen to replac the entire space graphics. This plain sucks for us older exploration pilots. I have survey data and several feedback threads that disagree with the subjective part of the post. The F9 map can be made fullscreen as you like - just use the options in the top right, or double click the system name. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath



CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2768	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:49:36 - [31] - Quote Romana Erebus wrote: this beta map is terrible. and sadly the old map dosnt work with scan probes it seems. The old map works fine, but it doesn't work with the new system. Unless you mean the beta map when you say old map, which indeed we have removed scanning from in favour of this new Solar System map. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2768	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:52:16 - [32] - Quote Saisin wrote: I like most of the improvements to the D-scan map/windows, especially the probe's arrow changing colors when mousing over it. I miss having the circle showing the current scan %. Being color blind, and red on black being hard for me to see, it helped me locate the exact location of the sigs better. Now, I do like having the white circle and the name showing up when mousing over the name of the anomaly. it would be nice to be able to click on a sig in the probe window and until another sig is selected or moused over there, the white circle and name on the map would remain visible. I do like the 1-5 shortcuts to change fileter quickly. it would be nice to be able to drag and drop these to tie them to a specific filter of our choice. Can a filter that has the number 1-5 assigned be deleted? Also on one of my alt, I see only shortcuts 1-3 and a line and the other filters below do not have numbers.. not sure why.. I do like the D-Scan layout, but it would be nice if the D-Scan view on the map only shows when D_scan window is currently active. I usualy have both scan window and D-scan window open and tab between them. I'd like to see the D-Scan bubble on the map only when the d-scan window has the focus. Right now you have to close D-scan window to remove it from the map. Thanks for all the good work! Having some feedback from colorblind users is great. Thanks. We do actually use colorblind emulator tools when developing to try and mitigate these issues as much as possible but of course getting user feedback is preferred. Right now there is no way to reassign the default filters, but that's definitely something we could look into if there was sufficient demand. Can you file a bug report on your alt from in-game please? (F12) The D-scan view is getting a toggle in an update soon :) CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2768	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:53:22 - [33] - Quote Deridium wrote: So I've restarted my client a couple of times but I still do not have the directional cube in solar system view to move my probes around. I can resize them but cannot move them. Seriously CCP there was nothing wrong with the way probing worked before. Changing things just to be able to say you did something to earn your paycheck hurts the game. Maybe you really didn't earn that paycheck after all. It's seems like it's a game with you people to see how many subscribers you can run off by making the game worse. ....and no you can't have my stuff..... Sorry, there was a known issue with the probe window where the box sometimes doesn't appear. Pressing shift once fixes this. We will of course fix it properly. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2768	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:53:58 - [34] - Quote Nam Dnilb wrote: Sul Glass wrote: 1/ Please can d-scan transparent circle NOT be red like cosmic sigs are red? 2/ please can we have d-scan open without transparent red circle? 3/ please can all remaining cosmic sigs remain showing in probe scanner and space after one has been fully scanned (having to ctrl A now to see them again). This is retrograde. 4/ Having to click twice to launch my current formation of probes, this is retrograde too. 5/ The separate screen/solar system map is impossible, you have to chose between seeing all your windows open or having a max map screen . if you do that you can not see; ds, local overview, chat and modules in view. Its been 1/2 hour its driving me crazy Thank you. Sul. All of this. Point 1/ made me hunt a ghost sig for a minute. Also, filtering Anoms is by far my most used filter. Takes now two clicks, I wouldn't mind if it got back its own toggle. Just press 1 to filter anoms with 0 clicks (and 1 press) CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2768	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:55:43 - [35] - Quote Mr Floydy wrote: Just an initial thought on the new scanner window. I've not used it in anger so can't really comment - but in terms of features it seems ok. Definitely room for improvement though... http://i.imgur.com/BfMF67c.png Why?! Just why have a drop down button then an uncheck button. Just let me click the wifi button to toggle! You can hit the focus current location button without needing a drop down list... Also, when you have it the camera locked you can't double click on your probes. Can you make it so when the camera is locked we can still double click on our probes to centralise the view there? If we then want to switch back to dscan locked we can then just then (please) click a single button to re-enable it. Quality of life change that I can't see why anyone would be against there. edit - how about just making all the icons visible on the scanner window. The full screen/window/dock has no reason to be a sub menu. Again make it possible to do it with a single click? There are likely going to be more options in that menu. I totally get that it's weird now though :) We can't change the fundamental paradigm of how the camera works at this time, so for now it will need to be a toggle. We can definitely make that toggle more accessible if it's going to have to be used a lot though. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2768	Posted - 2015.11.04 12:56:21 - [36] - Quote Mr Floydy wrote: Scanner windowed - if you are zoomed out and try and drag the sliders to move the probes, it seems to just click the actual probe under the arrow.... I filter probes out using the Markers toggle for this reason, but also I decrease my tooltip sensitivity so I don't get auto-popups. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2769	Posted - 2015.11.04 14:24:33 - [37] - Quote Quick update post following team meeting. So, after taking the points about Scanning onboard, here are some changes we'll be working toward: Make signature circles in Solar System Map (SSM) bigger Make them highlight if probes are over them (more obviously) One click to get to last custom formation Show all remaining signatures in the SSM after you ignore one in the Probe Scanner interface Add visual D-scan toggle to SSM window And here are some defects we're going to try fixing: Probe control box not always displaying Probe scanner width settings not correctly retained Signature list in Probe Scanning window snaps to top after each scan Various issues with filters, particularly custom filters General performance issues (keep those bug reports coming if you have performance issues - no multiple reports though from same computer please) D-Scan Overview Filters overhang bounding box Probe scanner interface not snappable to other windows Structure and Scan results are displayed inconsistently. Please note - this is not an exhaustive list! There are other issues that have been raised in this thread that we are researching more, or waiting to get more feedback on before committing to an action plan. For instance, there have been a lot of remarks about the scan progress lines, the color of the D-scan sphere, and such. These will be iterated on over time, so don't expect fast changes to them. The HUD showing through the Solar System map is something we'll have to put more time into investigating too - don't think that because it's missing from the above list that we've dismissed it or forgotten about it. I hope these changes show you effectively that we are committed to iteration and we still want your constructive, well explained feedback! CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2778	Posted - 2015.11.04 16:12:32 - [38] - Quote Hey folks, quick note to say please do direct further scanning feedback to Our Dev Blog thread CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath

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