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Tengu Grib
Black Hydra Consortium.
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Posted - 2015.11.05 19:00:08 -
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La Rynx wrote:As far as i understood, the future of hisec is still in the making.
Still under the premise that New Eden is a harsh dark place.
Meaning, that CCP will keep up possibilities to kill each others.
Most likely still without consent of both parties.
However the same rules that gankers tell their victims will apply to them.
Sologanking (aka hyperdunking) is removed.
Targets to big for one guy, need group actions.
For once I agree with you (just this once, promise).
Freighter ganking should be a group activity, and while I'll miss out on a lot of easy income with my buddies, Hyperdunking being removed doesn't anger me. However it is indicative of the trend of High Sec over the years.
Special thanks to Carlvagio for being a cool bro and financing fun activities.
StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
812
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Posted - 2015.11.05 22:35:00 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Here is my real issue with this. If it was a great issue why not try making an attempt at education first through say a scope video? Because educating people who willfully ignore the universe around them simply doesn't work.
That's the whole premise of Anti-Ganking.
Giving gankers carebear stares and waiting for miracles that don't happen because everyone is like that.
EvE-Mail me if you need anything.
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Tengu Grib
Black Hydra Consortium.
1464
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Posted - 2015.11.05 22:38:27 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Here is my real issue with this. If it was a great issue why not try making an attempt at education first through say a scope video? Because educating people who willfully ignore the universe around them simply doesn't work. That's the whole premise of Anti-Ganking. Giving gankers carebear stares and waiting for miracles that don't happen because everyone is like that.
That is accurate.
Special thanks to Carlvagio for being a cool bro and financing fun activities.
StonerPhReak> Being an adult sucks.
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d0cTeR9
Astro Technologies
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
271
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Posted - 2015.11.06 01:15:22 -
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Exploit fixed. Moving on...
Been around since the beginning.
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Johng Kahn
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2015.11.06 04:34:09 -
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Honestly dunking was both a broken mechanic but at the same time easy as hell to get out of.
Like someone else said logi, ( Hope they don't gank that logi) or more simply bump the mach out.
I have both participated in dunks and saved people from dunks. One solid bump or two on the bumper will let the freighter warp if he's smart enough to do so.
I have enjoyed different forms of HS ganking but it's honestly very unbalanced. There is no real risk for ganking. I hear the cry's of the gankers all the time about the Bears who cry to much. But realistically you have to admit HS ganking has a 0 risk factor.
The ganker dose not care about sec status, ship losses, or even if some White Knight gets a lucky pod kill on the ganker.
This toon I am posting from has ganked at least 7 or 8 indy's and I think i went from a 5.0 to maybe a 3.0 sec status and this is an Indy toon. Those ganks profited around 2 billion or so in loot. I lost maybe 60 mill in ships. I made a gank alt that took a long time to get down to a - 5.
I think the real issue is that there is both no financial or access balance to the act of suicide ganking and believe the poor attempt of removing this one mechanic only promotes larger groups to hold a monopoly on something that for a while was capable by smaller entities. It also shows CCP yet again back stepping.
As most of any experience knows, a majority of ganks can be avoided, and I agree that the Bears should have to pay attention to their game while piloting and not just blindly automate across New Eden.
That being said, there should be a better balance to HS combat mechanics or just be rid of them all together. As of now I see them as being overly complicated for your newer pilots to grasp and give them a false sense of security. That in turn makes them complacent when learning to hone their piloting skills. |
Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
455
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Posted - 2015.11.06 05:58:34 -
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The above post makes no sense, they shouldn't just blindly automate and should have to pay attention BUT remove HS combat mechanics?
Can I have some of what your having?
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
442
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Posted - 2015.11.06 11:59:55 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:The above post makes no sense, they shouldn't just blindly automate and should have to pay attention BUT remove HS combat mechanics?
Can I have some of what your having?
You mean brain?
Not the brightest crayon in the box now, are we?
Ganking has no risk for the ganker.
Gankers insist that carebear victims accept risk, but cry when their own risk levels are increased.
You will need more effort than just jumping into station and blar "i can not be station camped..."!
You understand, that CCP also will make changes that those stationgames will not work anymore?
Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
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Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
457
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Posted - 2015.11.06 13:28:45 -
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Because using 'broadcast for reps' as a way of saying "mmm ganker tears, you crying bro? you sound sad" just screams 'intelligent.' You're a troll with nothing worth responding to.
It's a low none of us would go anywhere near.
Quote:Are you sad?
This does not sound like you are OK?
Remember: "Broadcast for reps"!
lets continue on with the conversation without her shall we chaps?
Johng, care to explain the inconsistencies in your position? Seems fairly mutually exclusive to me.
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
442
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Posted - 2015.11.06 15:08:03 -
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It is a kind of low, that *you* have to climb up to.
Is it possiible, that you really have no idea what your appearance is to other ppl?
So you can not handle my arguments you call for your buddies?
*broad smile*
Not so much conversation.
More like rivers of tears for actual and future changes.
There is no need for me to be angry, i got my wishes.
So no "calm down miner" or other code-bullshit-bingo.
You ppl on the other side get shown who holds the hammer.
Its no "Jimmy and his delirious toons", it is CCP.
And CCP likes discussions more than just whining and swearing over carebears.
Or dumb ramblings about "risk averse pilots".
You can close your eyes to all arguments.
Your friends will tell you what stuff other ppl discussed and what was taken over by CCP.
Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
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Paranoid Loyd
7407
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Posted - 2015.11.06 16:29:25 -
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You crossed the line with that comment, the fact that you continue on makes you look even dumber than you already did.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Mag's
the united
20682
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Posted - 2015.11.06 16:53:33 -
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It was in very poor taste. The fact La Rynx posted it, means they will not understand that fact.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1507
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Posted - 2015.11.06 19:25:03 -
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You worthless piece of pathetic human garbage.
I truly hope you are not a forum alt, because I will be looking for you.
Be seeing you.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25661
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Posted - 2015.11.06 22:11:53 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:You worthless piece of pathetic human garbage. I truly hope you are not a forum alt, because I will be looking for you. Be seeing you. IIRC it's a forum alt.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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ISD Buldath
ISD STAR
201
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Posted - 2015.11.06 22:42:06 -
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Quote: 3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not conductive to the community spirit that CCP promotes. As such, this kind of behavior will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive, and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
Im going to go ahead and close this and avoid further issues. It's accomplished it's original goal.
~ISD Buldath
Interstellar Services Department
Support, Training and Resources Division
Lt. Commander
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