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Kugutsumen Fountain Liberation Front	Posted - 2007.01.02 11:18:00 - [1] To start the new year, we reveal the plan by the BoB leadership to put a spy into D2. That's hardly news, as all the alliances are spy ridden. What makes this maneuver different, is that BoB leadership placed an entire corp of BoB alts into D2... MONTHS ago. That's right, as we speak, D2 has been infiltrated by an entire corp of Alts who are controlled by BoBs most trusted. A fun quote from dbp on the topic is, "think of a BoB puppet corp controlling D2" . While controlling D2 from within may be a lofty goal, the more realistic stated goal of rotting D2 from within seems far more possible. (Having dbp posting on their internal forums would probably do it alone. Alliance leaders if you need help exposing BoB spies, drop me an email or add me to google talk ([email protected].) Don't forget, your isk keeps me working. Please donate when you have a moment. Kugutsumen -- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war"
Mitchello Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.02 11:20:00 - [2] um, even ASCN already knew that for a long time ...
MacDuncan Minmatar Unknown Society	Posted - 2007.01.02 11:23:00 - [3] Originally by: Mitchello um, even ASCN already knew that for a long time ... Lol...ASCN intel?? (sry, couldn't resist! ) On a brighter note: OP, do you really think that Bob's Forum isn't read by proper ppl if needed? -- Might As well Train Another Race
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.01.02 11:26:00 - [4] Welcome to 2007 Kugutsumen. Please continue where you left off
Kugutsumen Fountain Liberation Front	Posted - 2007.01.02 11:28:00 - [5] Edited by: Kugutsumen on 02/01/2007 11:29:13 Originally by: MacDuncan On a brighter note: OP, do you really think that Bob's Forum isn't read by proper ppl if needed? This was not in a public message to the general BoB membership, that's why I couldn't post it on eve-o in order to comply with the forum rules. However the proof is out there ;) -- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war"
OozoO Caldari Decadence. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.02 11:29:00 - [6] here is screeny on kugutsumens blog :) http://kugutsumen.blogspot.com/2007/01/to-start-new-year-we-reveal-plan-by-bob.html#links
Maltroc Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.02 11:30:00 - [7] Bob have D2 Spys and D2 have BoB Spys. "Spy or Spy" Deluxe We should have a Forum together.
OozoO Caldari Decadence. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.02 11:31:00 - [8] Originally by: Maltroc We should have a Forum together. qft !!!!!!!!!!
Gusar Mora Caldari Sun-inc	Posted - 2007.01.02 11:41:00 - [9] this post is pointless without a nice chat log proving it, preferably the d2 alts saying they bob. untill than i will remain sceptical with rest of eve populance ;p
Reilu Desportus Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2007.01.02 11:46:00 - [10] Pointless post. Laim flaim. Get a life.
Acwron Minmatar Cataclysm Enterprises	Posted - 2007.01.02 11:48:00 - [11] tick tock @ Diana... PS: next time wait until we had time to ask for the "extra alliance contribution".
Mitchello Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.02 11:50:00 - [12] Originally by: OozoO Originally by: Maltroc We should have a Forum together. qft !!!!!!!!!! we all did, but Civis forums are closed now.
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2007.01.02 11:50:00 - [13] are you running out of content already after BoB changed forums ? Anyone with some braincells can see that the img you posted on your blog is fabricated, especially knowing the forum format and typing of the ppl involved. I forsee this post gets deleted as its a baseless accusation / flamebait, once again.
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.01.02 11:57:00 - [14] Originally by: Reilu Desportus Pointless post. Laim flaim. Get a life. Says the newbie corp character... <3 Best regards, Lowa What if the truth was something else?
Ather Ialeas Amarr Karjala Inc. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.02 11:58:00 - [15] Edited by: Ather Ialeas on 02/01/2007 11:58:46 Originally by: Kcel Chim are you running out of content already after BoB changed forums ? Anyone with some braincells can see that the img you posted on your blog is fabricated, especially knowing the forum format and typing of the ppl involved. That pic looks like phpBB2 standard theme's private messaging function rendered using Firefox on a non-Windows platform. When you play as an admin for a phpBB2 board long enough you learn this sort of stuff... ...I'm not saying that's real though, I'm just posting here as a counter to your heavily biased opinion on the issue.
Gutsani The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2007.01.02 12:01:00 - [16] Edited by: Gutsani on 02/01/2007 12:03:47 Originally by: Kcel Chim are you running out of content already after BoB changed forums ? Anyone with some braincells can see that the img you posted on your blog is fabricated, especially knowing the forum format and typing of the ppl involved. I forsee this post gets deleted as its a baseless accusation / flamebait, once again. to be honest, i think you are right .. its like a "private message" to dbp with the content of a forum post "from directors forum", cant dbp read those? and as far as i know his "personality", thats not even galavet. real proof or stfu? Originally by: Ather Ialeas That pic looks like phpBB2 standard theme's private messaging function rendered using Firefox on a non-Windows platform. When you play as an admin for a phpBB2 board long enough you learn this sort of stuff... ...I'm not saying that's real though, I'm just posting here as a counter to your heavily biased opinion on the issue. Yes, and? Like, setup forum. add Galavet & dbp. Send private message containing bull**. Take screenshot. The real pro would also fake the url by adding the bob forums url to their hosts file. Even simpler would be to get the source from a BoB forum pm, and editing it, and then using the hosts trick. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!**
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2007.01.02 12:04:00 - [17] Edited by: Kcel Chim on 02/01/2007 12:05:10 Originally by: Ather Ialeas That pic looks like phpBB2 standard theme's private messaging function rendered using Firefox on a non-Windows platform. When you play as an admin for a phpBB2 board long enough you learn this sort of stuff... ...I'm not saying that's real though, I'm just posting here as a counter to your heavily biased opinion on the issue. the pic is: a) edited, the date is missing in the header b) appears to be a private message between galv and dbp so how did the op get it without hacking ? c) it doesnt cover galv's writing style d) there are other themes on the bob forum. Last but not least why would he need to mail dbp this at all, as far as im aware dbp has directors access so there would be no point in the last paragraph of the mail at all. Im just pointing out that there are many flaws in the op. Biased or not i pointed them out, you decide.
Dekiri Exanimo Inc	Posted - 2007.01.02 12:04:00 - [18] The whole thing sounds a bit odd and the content does not seem to fit the presented situation. --------------------------------- Exanimo Inc. - Mercs for hire Join channel "CONTRACT EXAN" in game if you wish to hire Exanimo Inc. Or contact cptblood or kakanur
Tarsha Listur Glamour Bunnies Glamour Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.02 12:09:00 - [19] our forums were haxed too, gettin desperate?
Kugutsumen Fountain Liberation Front	Posted - 2007.01.02 12:19:00 - [20] Originally by: Kcel Chim the pic is: a) edited, the date is missing in the header I edited the date on purpose because it would make narrowing the search to easy. It is already easy when you know that there is only a few corps which joined after D2 was created. Some of the BoB corp have german and french divisions so language will not be a problem. Originally by: Kcel Chim b) appears to be a private message between galv and dbp so how did the op get it without hacking ? One of my agent has a full SQL backup of one of BoB member corp's forum. I don't know how he got it nor do I want to know. From my understanding he might have hacked them or infiltrated them and help them with programming stuff and they handed him admin access. Again I don't really want to know. Originally by: Kcel Chim c) it doesnt cover galv's writing style d) there are other themes on the bob forum. The subject of the message is "From Directors forum" and I understand that the original message was copied by galv from the BoB director forum. I think it was from digitalcommunist (an ex-GHSC member btw), I am not entirely sure. Originally by: Kcel Chim Last but not least why would he need to mail dbp this at all, as far as im aware dbp has directors access so there would be no point in the last paragraph of the mail at all. Maybe he didn't trust everyone in the directorship... and the advantage of private messages over a forum post is that the recipients can delete it after it read; obviously it was not. -- Infiltration, Alliance Removal, Genocide, Psychological Warfare... "By way of deception, thou shalt do war"
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2007.01.02 12:30:00 - [21] in your answer are alot of "maybe" and "i dont knows". Your "operative" surely didnt help with the forums as its skaff doing them. So you are relying on dubious info, afterall you might be cheated on by your agent aswell.... As for the rest, go lookup d2. They dont have many small corps joining them. It would take alot to create a 80-200 ppl alt corp especially as you said yourself not many joined d2 which werent already known corps and whos history didnt start a month before joining ^^.
Sinlare Gallente Sinlare Auditorium	Posted - 2007.01.02 12:39:00 - [22] Originally by: Kugutsumen One of my agent has a full SQL backup of one of BoB member corp's forum. I don't know how he got it nor do I want to know. From my understanding he might have hacked them or infiltrated them and help them with programming stuff and they handed him admin access. Again I don't really want to know. It's funny, you don't seem to realise that actually hacking is a serious offence in most countries.
Bomb Voyage	Posted - 2007.01.02 12:39:00 - [23] Edited by: Bomb Voyage on 02/01/2007 12:39:59 nvm
Lootcatcher	Posted - 2007.01.02 12:46:00 - [24] It is not hacking if its a BoB member feeding this intel, like a disgruntled members? (hmmm where have we heard this before)
D1ABOLIST Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.01.02 12:49:00 - [25] yawn And as if there wasn't enough Bob threads. ______ Only the good die young....
Eponine Astarte Industrial Holdings Unlimited	Posted - 2007.01.02 12:51:00 - [26] Originally by: Lootcatcher It is not hacking if its a BoB member feeding this intel, like a disgruntled members? (hmmm where have we heard this before) Kugutsman has done the same to several other alliance forums. It's how he gets his "intel" and just how the man operates.
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2007.01.02 12:51:00 - [27] hmmmm. Imagine a BOB alt creating a blog in which sensitive Bob information is leaked. Things like, how good the 0.0 deal is they run. or how there might be an entire alt corp in D2, but no name supplied, so everyone can be under suspicion. That would be funny to imagine that.
Galavet Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.02 12:54:00 - [28] Originally by: Kugutsumen One of my agent has a full SQL backup of one of BoB member corp's forum. I don't know how he got it nor do I want to know. From my understanding he might have hacked them or infiltrated them and help them with programming stuff and they handed him admin access. Again I don't really want to know. There is only three ways you could have a copy of private mail between me and DBP. 1) DBP or I gave you a screen shot 2) You Fabricated the mail 3) You hacked the forum using a phpbb exploit. Now tell the Eve public, which is it? Your credibility is on the line. Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO
OozoO Caldari Decadence. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.02 12:54:00 - [29] Originally by: Omega Man That would be funny to imagine that. then I gotta say respect to bob for taking down their forums for several days - even their TS and IRC Channels :)
HatePeace LoveWar Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.02 12:56:00 - [30] Edited by: HatePeace LoveWar on 02/01/2007 12:56:28 If it was an SQL backup of the entire forum database then that really narrows your search dude and any genuine intel provider wouldn't relinquish such information on the source (as if it is true, you've prolly just shafted them). If he did have the entire SQL database, then why not just grab the origional post and remove any doubt? This is so easy to fake mate, there is one thing that makes me wonder as to how it may be true and that is, i get the distinct impression you don't like bob yet such a post like this actually aids them. It creates mistrust amongst D2, a potential enemy to BoB, and does nothing but make bob look like they've pulled off probably the biggest coup this year (already?! :D). Unless it was your intention to cause amonosity between BoB and D2, if that was the case your p***ing into a sea there mate.

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