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Valerius Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 15:02:00 - [121] Originally by: Pete Tosh Edited by: Pete Tosh on 03/01/2007 14:52:35 Originally by: Omega Man Edited by: Omega Man on 03/01/2007 14:26:59 Originally by: Pete Tosh blah blah i know you are only a six day old alt and clearly a total nub but posting without an corp/alliance tag is going to get your posts deleted (and not a moment too soon). So why not join all your other alts in privateers alliance so you can at least join all your mates. You may also notice the filters do a good job of restricting what is clearly a painfully limited vocabulary at your disposal. The old "lack of vocab" argument wears thin, and is basically the response of a big headed sphincter. the funny thing is, no one listens to you either. My post willbe deleted. /care could a forum mod plz delete this characters posts in here and perhaps even remove his/hers posting rights? no reason for him to go on a rampage like this ___________________________ Bringing Lag to a place near you since 2004
Madorthene Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 15:57:00 - [122] Originally by: Haargoth Agamar Originally by: Madorthene On a slightly different note, I can't fathom why people have such contempt for the privateer alliance. Sure, we get the fair share of hauler kills, but how does that make us any less pvpers? We get plenty of decent fights, and they're hardly all in Jita. I'm not ****ed, I just find the reactions of some people in this thread unnecessary. I have a little bit of respect for you guys but most of your corp is alts that seem to enjoy smacking quite a bit. Also, most of you guys just can't get it out of your heads that you really aren't bothering major alliances as much as you think you are. You might be killing the odd freighter and many haulers, but how many of those are actually containing alliance items? Most are for personal profits on the pilots and if they are going afk in Empire during a wardec, then they are just stupid. I suppose the corp itself is used by alts a lot, and you do have a point there. At the end of the day though, the people i've flown with in voluntary gangs in the alliance have all been nice enough, and if being in a corp that some people don't like means I can undock in a PVP ship and expect to get a good fight from somebody, then I think it's worth it. I have little time for people who can't keep their opinions to themselves, and have to insult others who are just trying to enjoy a game.
Serenity Frye Defile. Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 16:03:00 - [123] Lol @ this thread Quote: Secondly advanced drone interfacing modules can only be fitted to titans.
Horza Otho Minmatar Silver Star Federation Kurai Komichi	Posted - 2007.01.03 16:04:00 - [124] They learned it from fighting triple A ^^ --- Eris Discordia is miiiiiine
Ghostthor Caldari Eye of God	Posted - 2007.01.03 16:23:00 - [125] Originally by: oodin Edited by: oodin on 03/01/2007 12:04:05 Originally by: oodin ah cmon 59 travel fit my a** why dont you just say it.that bob was a lamer and get it over with edit notice i said "that" bob.i dont say bob are wcs lamers when it was 1 pilot.same as not all privateers are blobbers/gankers/whatever you call us these days and same as not all BOB are uber as you guys like to belive.in fact some of you guys are pure crap pvp'ers and please dont say thats because they are the idustrial backbone Wow buddy. Do you honestly think you are talented enough to be called gankers? Influencial enough to be called blobbers? Must be one of those empire huggers that believes a blob is a 5 man cruiser gang. And that killing a hauler full of exotic dancers makes you a ganker. I think your little alliance needs to go sit in 0.0 for a good year before you start commenting on PVP in eve period. At best you can think that we call you guys pushovers/target practise/fitting testing. Next time you guys get out played in eve, (becuase it wasnt a log on trap, i've lived with log on traps for the last 6 months. It's called alternate routes), don't come *****ing to the forums. -hOr
Kai Jyokoroi The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.03 16:24:00 - [126] Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 03/01/2007 12:08:06 Originally by: oodin Originally by: fire 59 Originally by: Kuolematon Yeah like BoB Armageddon that had Heavy Pulse II's fitted with like 2 or 3 stabs You'd almost think that was a travel fit while in empire, crazy isn't it?! ah cmon 59 travel fit my a** why dont you just say it.that bob was a lamer and get it over with Well i certainly aren't going to do that. It makes little sense to wear stab's now and then try to pvp so logically i assumed it was a travel fit, i didn't know it was at an undock point, or the whole story so can't comment on the particular's, only what it looked like Edit - What was the date that this happened, i would be interested in having a looksie myself Mate, just ignore it. These idiots don't seem to realise that people who don't hug Jita consider having stabs in Empire to be a travel fit to prepare for when you, you know, leave Jita to engage in real pvp with people other than mission runners and haulers. If some idiot in an Abso targeted me and was wardecced I'd sure as hell shoot back even though stabs were equipped to travel with. Honestly, Jita Alliance, you guys need to train both "Common Sense" and "Forum Trolling" to level one. Then perhaps bash your squishy brainmeats out on your keyboard. _____________ DAMN IT! I got a sig-jack from wystler and then accidentally broke it :(
Bob Clive Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 16:34:00 - [127] Originally by: Ghostthor same old tired crap ok. thank you. goodbye.
doctorstupid2 Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.01.03 16:36:00 - [128] Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi Then perhaps bash your squishy brainmeats out on your keyboard.
Bob Clive Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 16:37:00 - [129] Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi more tired crap ok. thank you. goodbye.
Valerius Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 16:38:00 - [130] Edited by: Valerius on 03/01/2007 16:39:20 kai, do us all a favor and just stop posting.... I do not understand why people keep on thinking all we do is shoot haulers and mission runners. We do actually engage in real PvP as well. And as has been stated ohh so many times before... we do not just hang around Jita, infact the only reason we are present around there is because our WTs are there!! And calling us names because you may not be able to fight back is really just a fast ticket to nOObyville (isnt directed at Kai but in general to anyone bad mouthing anyone else, including all the PRVTRs) ___________________________ Bringing Lag to a place near you since 2004
kabayn Minmatar Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.01.03 16:43:00 - [131] I fight 1 vs 1 cruiser battles. I the best... That is all. ---------- Kab
Damir36 Gallente PPN United Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:14:00 - [132] Originally by: fire 59 Ah bless, when you went to blob a hauler in jita, they counterblobbed with a log on. This bring's a tearto my eye, it truly does........not. You guy's moaning about being ganked when you gank all day is, um, silly. You say it smack's of desperation? AAA do it all the time (Tm) and are they desperate? SSSh fire59? You know we are all only BOB-Alts? So we do only what we learned from BOB! So come again you evil Logontrapper! To the Op: You must realize that your time will be short. Alliances will just use Non Ally Characters to do their logistics becauce the cant be bothered to spend time on you. And if needed they will fly with dedicated PvPers and your gangs of 5 will mostly loose. Oh and btw... I fought Axe for a few month now, maybe they are still regrouping but if you annoy them anylonger, I`m sure you won`t undock without getting ganked. Oh and btw.. Pls declare us, I just have a week holidays from 0.0! Grn¯e Damir Beware: German Link!:) Deutschprachige Piloten gesucht
Crucifier The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:22:00 - [133] Originally by: Horza Otho They learned it from fighting triple A ^^ To bad they havent fought you, or they would be loosing machs like the noob you are. ------
Sorted Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:50:00 - [134] Logon trap? used or not its cheap - and doesnt really effect us in any major way. There are hundreds of "cheap" things in Eve. The shear number of wars makes it difficult(in my personal expierence) for solo pilots and small gangs oporating the trade hubs and pipes they have become accustumded to during times of fewer targets. Even with only a handful of seperate allaince wat targets in local it is still risky engaging a 1v1 as another willing combatant could easily bump into you while you are engaged. What I have a personal peev over is neutral targets bumping you, while hoping you will pop so the can steal the spoils from your superior adversary - but thats another story. also - Neutral alts for scounting is weak imo, mod scanning camps - range finding etc its a puffs game get outa your SS and check it for yourself ya nob. But each to their own pilots in privateers do it - others do it. The MAIN point I have is there is no general consesnus for our PVP enagagements, individual people have oppions on whats fair and whats not - but it makes little difference to each pilots play style. (unlike other corps our only non-exploit rule is non Friendly Fire). But IF we did have corp rules to be upheld I would want people to complain to the CEO/forum post if our pilots didnt. (I have no information on the O-Topic but Privs is getting the usual generalistic slagging from people with no real idea. Priavteers Corp is a bunch of loosly knit indivual pilots, the other memeber corps I cant not speak for) Some people dont like me/us shooting haulers - or the guriella style of warfare some of us use to keep the losses to a minium. Some would say our employment history has been "tarnished" by joining. But - if I cared what you thought I dont think I would of started in the first place. (EDIT > removed the personal insult you do deserve) The Corp and allaince has no comments about anything in this post or any other of the same ilk. We are a loosely knit group of players who shoot at other players in empire space and some kindly manage the admin to allow the wars to continue (thanks to those concernd) This is a personal post. And the topic should be locked imo.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:51:00 - [135] Originally by: Valerius Quote: We understand how Privateers works, we don't expect you guys to do anything but try to run around solo or in small groups and gank ***, that's fine, I'm sure you're having lots of fun. Now you understand two things: First, how AXE works; we work together, we fight as a team, we don't claim to be the best at it, but that's how we operate. We don't sit around going "ok, there are two of them, we need at least eight" we just state their locations in corp or on TS and people show up. If you honestly expect us to say to five of our guys "sorry, you can't come, there's only five targets to hunt and we can't outnumber them" you're just being silly. Second, you guys declared on us, you can't honestly tell me you weren't expecting to get chased around by some medium-large gangs when declaring on 30+ alliances. I do realise we declared on you, and yes i do realise we have a LOT of wars going on atm... guess what, there are more coming every day and I am still here as are a lot of other members. I do also realise telling your members "No, you cannot come" is impossible, but calling on backup when outnumbering/outgunning the oponent already isnt needed, everyone enjoys a fair fight whilst only one part enjoys a gank. I have nothing but respect for people willing to test themselves. It is incumbent upon the person outnumbered or outgunned (in your scenario, you) to call on backup. Therefore, it is our duty and policy to bring overwhelming force to every engagement, not because we want to gank rather than fight, but because we hope and believe every opponent will do the same. When all your reserves are on the front lines, from both sides, there's no chance of being suddenly, magically outgunned out of some perverted sense of "fairness" causing you to hold the rest of your force back when you jump in your backup. Originally by:* SamuraiJack stuff Read the damn thread before you just magically believe this sort of crap about your former ally, dude. You can't make a post like yours based on reading the OP and stopping there. :\ I'd appreciate an edit on your part, even Val is saying we didn't do a logon trap. --P
Havras The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:06:00 - [136] Originally by: SamuraiJack Hmm. Lets See. Everyone been ***ing about logon and other dubious tactics for months. CCP does... OOOHhh... NOTHING. Now other people start using same tactics because... Cheating = teh w1nz0r. "My name is Aurora. How would you like to be griefed today?" In game mechanics my ass. * all you want. Its the steady decline of what was an amazing game. I await the next expansion news with interest as it will determine eve's fate. PvP or Empire building? Glorious rich deep story? or 5min **fests of pvp? Risk and Reward CCP said. If you want to be lowlife lieing scum then there is plenty of reward and little risk. TQ Eve's new CS server in space. :note: This is my personal opinion. <breaks out the fire hose> What did I tell you about leaving the Triangle SJ.. get back in there or it gets the hose again!!! :p
Benny Hill Caldari Deceased Inc	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:25:00 - [137] Edited by: Benny Hill on 03/01/2007 18:26:37 Originally by: ollobrains Lame folks - engaging one then having 20 of u log in suddenly to join youre friend is just lame A heads up folks its allowed yes but AXE use the log in tactic because they are afraid to loose ships Is this endorsed by their leadership or are these isolated incidents by a few fc - either way id like to bring to eves attention axioms continued use of log in log off traps to get unfair and unbalanced kills Feel free to share with us youre axe log in lame stories and losses and we still manage to kill them to To the devs we ask again for u to fix this issue so that axe cannot continue to be lame in their PVP style it smacks of desperation as they are loosing a lot of ships in this war AXE has more things to do that lay a trap for a single Empire ship - who's alliance was formed on the basis of shooting haulers. In any case, its a legitmate practice condoned by CCP. CCP knows about this tactics - and has explicitly expressed it does not care about it.
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:32:00 - [138] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: SamuraiJack stuff Read the damn thread before you just magically believe this sort of crap about your former ally, dude. You can't make a post like yours based on reading the OP and stopping there. :\ I'd appreciate an edit on your part, even Val is saying we didn't do a logon trap. --P Oh i wasnt aiming at AXE. AXE gangs pwn. :) I was pointing out that being as CCP refuses to do anything about the blatent ****taking that other corps have done... then they shouldnt be surprised when other ppl do the same. PS. Tell Shanzem that I still miss him ;-) SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-
Benny Hill Caldari Deceased Inc	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:35:00 - [139] Originally by: Valerius I do realise we declared on you, and yes i do realise we have a LOT of wars going on atm... guess what, there are more coming every day and I am still here as are a lot of other members. I do also realise telling your members "No, you cannot come" is impossible, but calling on backup when outnumbering/outgunning the oponent already isnt needed, everyone enjoys a fair fight whilst only one part enjoys a gank. I have nothing but respect for people willing to test themselves. Do you realize that you are equating "War" with "Fair Fight?" That is absurd. The Privateer Alliance declares wars on alliance to gank their haulers. And - that is a fair fight to you? Ganking a hauler?
Valerius Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:43:00 - [140] Originally by: Benny Hill Edited by: Benny Hill on 03/01/2007 18:39:51 Originally by: Valerius I do realise we declared on you, and yes i do realise we have a LOT of wars going on atm... guess what, there are more coming every day and I am still here as are a lot of other members. I do also realise telling your members "No, you cannot come" is impossible, but calling on backup when outnumbering/outgunning the oponent already isnt needed, everyone enjoys a fair fight whilst only one part enjoys a gank. I have nothing but respect for people willing to test themselves. Do you realize that you are equating "War" with "Fair Fight?" That is absurd. The Privateer Alliance declares wars on alliance to gank their haulers. And - that is a fair fight to you? Ganking a hauler? But - when the grim reality of a PVP alliance making its hope in EMpire space, and omgwtfholys&*tmegapwn a ship its all of a sudden not fair? I expect the mettle of the Privateer Alliance to be melted within a week, and the war declared on AXE to be dropped. i have 3 words for ya... L O L ___________________________ Bringing Lag to a place near you since 2004
Sadao Minmatar Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:00:00 - [141] Ah we only gank haulers? Today, in Kisogo, we engaged AXE gatecamp with highly uneven odds: PRVTR - Typhoon, Dominix, Wolf, Rifter, Taranis vs. AXE - Megathron, Eos, Deimos, Myrmidon, Harpy And yes, we came out on top of that. And you might want to check killboard before accusing us of only ganking haulers. ---
Sorted Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:20:00 - [142] Originally by: Benny Hill I expect the mettle of the Privateer Alliance to be melted within a week, and the war declared on AXE to be dropped. Depends on the damage, if its causing pain, or the cost goes up or its less than profitable for the majority. Maybe it will - we like to share the love anyways. They'll get another turn though. Altough if someone is paying for the dec, it will continue, whats one more war on the list anyways?
Theonlystd Caldari Fly-By-Night Enterprises Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:30:00 - [143] Wow this thread got even funnier than it was at the start. A head of the alliance.. Talking about how he "respects" fair fights and think its lame to blob. When most of his alliance jumps at the chance for a 100% unfair fight againist haulers and other light targets. ahahahahahahh ------------------------------------------- Aye Spellcheck is beyond me along with propper grammer.
Hakera Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:37:00 - [144] Originally by: kabayn I fight 1 vs 1 cruiser battles. I the best... That is all. logging out/in/out/in/out/in to save your pod every minute is lame however.
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:50:00 - [145] Edited by: Le Skunk on 03/01/2007 20:52:39 ALL ALLIANCE EARS TURN TO ME .. FOR I AM SPEAKING Well they close the last smack thread and this one starts without me! Ands its slightly more vitriolic in tone to! Although i have come across some of the 'uptightness' that the evil alliance noob killlers are demonstrating in this thread, in game, i will say generally youve all been pretty good sports. One ISS guy even gave me my stuff back when the fecking game wouldnt let me dock. HOWEVER I WILL PROCALIM THIS Despite all the flame posts YOU ALLIANCE TYPES LOVE US. AND I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU ALLIANCES - WILL YOU COME TO MY BIRTHDAY PARTY! Quote: Originally by: Grimsonjade o btw if you guys posted all your losses like you did your kills. maybe you would get a little respect Our memebers are not required to do anything at all and are free to do what they wish (excluding griefing a fellow privateer) This means they can post what they want when they want without have some anal Alliance stats counter whittering on about it. We make no claims of total killboard accuracy, unlike the alliance guys who give people a whipping and 'fine' them isk or demote them if they go for a post fight crap instead of instantly posting a death. Be a brave man who put his life on the accuracy of his alliance kilboard as has been acknowledge by the more sensible alliance posters here. Quote: The base of it is you are not liked, something you got to live with, and when it all goes sour having Privateers Alliance on your employment history is going to close a lot of doors. OH NOES IM NOT LIKE BY THE ALLIANCES. IM NOT LIKED BY EVIL BULLY BOYS. PLEASE LET ME THROUGH THE DOOR I WILL MINE VELDSPAR FOR 6 MONTHS FOR YOU TO PROVE MYSELF. I dont think Winston Churchill would have found many job offers from Adolf **** if ww2 had gone another way either. Please note the Privatters have no such pompus attitudes as these and do not care about employment history when you join - rejoin. Quote: This thread is almost funny. Lets start an alliance, war dec everyone we can, get some kills, get killed, and cry about how we are out numbered. If the consensus among our members is that we need to temporarily drop some wars then this will be done. If the consensus is we need more this will be done also. Only a month ago we had three wars, now we have 40 How many of you big mouth, pec flexers have fought 40 wars at once eh? NONE. ZERO. ZILTCH. WE are flying half crazed, dribbling blood from rotten gums, elastic band holding our trousers up. You are flying holding hands, wearing high visibility vests with your names stitched into the back in case you lose them. This much is fact - Even the alliances dont deny it. In Summary - If it looks like we have bitten off more then we can chew we will lower the amount of war decs again untill we find a nice level. No "OMG THE PRIVATTERS ARE DOOMED". I remember having three decs and it was nice but sometimes barren of war targets. 40 wars could be said as being a bit too hectic. This decision will be taken as our members want it. And if you try to get us back by wardeccing us then we are the same as we were without a war dec bill. You cant beat us. BUT YOU CAN JOIN US - COME JOIN THE PRIVATEERS SKUNK Privateers Corporation is recruting pilots. Privateer Alliance is recruiting corporations. Evemail me for details**
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 22:07:00 - [146] Wars? What Wars? Let the smack begin! (Oh and I love this alliance. I hope BoB will still allow me to join their allaince once they win EVE ) "It's great being Amarr, ain't it?Ö" "A world without pain"
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2007.01.03 22:33:00 - [147] Originally by: Kuolematon Wars? What Wars? Let the smack begin! (Oh and I love this alliance. I hope BoB will still allow me to join their allaince once they win EVE ) killmail, what killmail. Lost an absolution recently you dont want to tell us about Kuolematon?
ollobrains Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 22:40:00 - [148] low sec pirates bored of their lifestyles and low sec status are now joining us to. Some remain to pirate in low sec as explained as long as they dont grief fellow privateers piracy in low sec against non wt is also encouraged we are also planning on moving into high sec suicide gank tactics against enemy haulers in NPC corps that have more than 100-200m in their holds ( making it safe for less ppl to hide) and as always profitable for us So if youre a merc bored or a pirate bored we have so many running wars u are bound to find pew pew. As a corp u can join to i think the only requirement that surreptitious has is that u pay for one war dec a week ( a simple 50m contribution i think u get to choose juicy targets as well) more corps more wars more numbers.
Aille Pluthrak Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 23:30:00 - [149] Originally by: Omega Man The base of it is you are not liked, something you got to live with, and when it all goes sour having Privateers Alliance on your employment history is going to close a lot of doors. Two things: 1. I doubt that 2. I don't give a **** ----------------------- I expect no quarter, and will give none.
Border201 Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.01.03 23:41:00 - [150] /me waves at ollobrains going to have to disagree with you though you'll need to provide proof that AXE is using log off tactics before this community is going to belive you. Originally by: Tuxford once tried to kick my brother when I had my pants around my ankle. Probably not my brightest moments

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