Originally by: ollobrains

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valid topic we know other peeps do it , im just naming and shaming here in the corp discussion forums its a valid topic.

Continue disucssion

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Originally by: ollobrains

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valid topic we know other peeps do it , im just naming and shaming here in the corp discussion forums its a valid topic.

Continue disucssion

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Originally by: DHB FooFighter

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You kill hundreds of missioners and logistics types daily. Real hardasses you are.

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Originally by: Conuion Meow

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Sig nerfz0rd. Remember kids, it's 400x120 and less than 24,000 bytes (not kbytes)

Originally by: The Beatnuts

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hahaha.

"we lost cap fleet to AAA's badass login trap omfgbbq!"

hahaha.

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Originally by: Tuxford

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Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us

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Originally by: ollobrains

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Lame folks - engaging one then having 20 of u log in suddenly to join youre friend is just lame

A heads up folks its allowed yes but AXE use the log in tactic because they are afraid to loose ships

Is this endorsed by their leadership or are these isolated incidents by a few fc - either way id like to bring to eves attention axioms continued use of log in log off traps to get unfair and unbalanced kills

Feel free to share with us youre axe log in lame stories and losses and we still manage to kill them to

To the devs we ask again for u to fix this issue so that axe cannot continue to be lame in their PVP style it smacks of desperation as they are loosing a lot of ships in this war

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Originally by: Tiuwaz

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for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons

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Originally by: ollobrains

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smacks of desperation as they are loosing a lot of ships in this war

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Originally by: ptmpredator

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come on guys
stop whining about your haulers, your just angry.

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Originally by: ptmpredator

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come on guys
stop whining about your haulers, your just angry.

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Originally by: Graalum

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Edited by: Graalum on 02/01/2007 23:12:37
Really though I'm sure they arranged a 20 man logon trap just to gank you

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Originally by: ollobrains

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well tbh we are testing the servers to the lag is horrendous hopefully CCP will fix jita soon

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Originally by: ollobrains

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well tbh we are testing the servers to the lag is horrendous hopefully CCP will fix jita soon

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Originally by: Pete Tosh

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"proof or STFU"
so many intellectual arguments.
2/1 they are americans.

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Originally by: Pete Tosh

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so many intellectual arguments.

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Originally by: ArcticFox

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Originally by: Pete Tosh

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so many intellectual arguments.

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You know what they always say about fighting fire with fire.

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Originally by: Pete Tosh

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"proof or STFU"
so many intellectual arguments.
2/1 they are americans.

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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk

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Oh and IAC's official response to ISS's offer is lollerskates.

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Originally by: Pete Tosh

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Originally by: ArcticFox

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Originally by: Pete Tosh

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so many intellectual arguments.

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You know what they always say about fighting fire with fire.

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"Proof or stfu"
is obviously the words of a sexually frustrated inbred.

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Originally by: Steel Rat

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Axe doesn't do login traps.


For some reason all the russian alarm clocks we got seem to go off at different times.

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Originally by: Pete Tosh

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Originally by: ArcticFox

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Originally by: Pete Tosh

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so many intellectual arguments.

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You know what they always say about fighting fire with fire.

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"Proof or stfu"
is obviously the words of a sexually frustrated inbred.

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Originally by: ArcticFox

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Edited by: ArcticFox on 03/01/2007 03:31:29

Originally by: Pete Tosh

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Originally by: ArcticFox

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Originally by: Pete Tosh

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so many intellectual arguments.

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You know what they always say about fighting fire with fire.

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"Proof or stfu"
is obviously the words of a sexually frustrated inbred.

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Note that the person (or persons) you are quoting are not even members of AXE.

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Originally by: Pete Tosh

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Originally by: ArcticFox

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Edited by: ArcticFox on 03/01/2007 03:31:29

Originally by: Pete Tosh

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Originally by: ArcticFox

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Originally by: Pete Tosh

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so many intellectual arguments.

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You know what they always say about fighting fire with fire.

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"Proof or stfu"
is obviously the words of a sexually frustrated inbred.

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Note that the person (or persons) you are quoting are not even members of AXE.

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where did i say they were ?
some just said "Proof or stfu" which i responded to.
read before you answer please.

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Originally by: Mele

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this post makes me wanna call for a 1 week break on all wars so we can all go sit in empire spanking privateer ass.

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Originally by: Mele

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corp recruitment - employment history, privateer alliance for more than 1 day - REJECTED

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Originally by: ollobrains

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Lame folks - engaging one then having 20 of u log in suddenly to join youre friend is just lame

A heads up folks its allowed yes but AXE use the log in tactic because they are afraid to loose ships

Is this endorsed by their leadership or are these isolated incidents by a few fc - either way id like to bring to eves attention axioms continued use of log in log off traps to get unfair and unbalanced kills

Feel free to share with us youre axe log in lame stories and losses and we still manage to kill them to

To the devs we ask again for u to fix this issue so that axe cannot continue to be lame in their PVP style it smacks of desperation as they are loosing a lot of ships in this war

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Originally by: DHB FooFighter

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Originally by: ollobrains

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valid topic we know other peeps do it , im just naming and shaming here in the corp discussion forums its a valid topic.

Continue disucssion

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I think the saying is.

Proof or STFU.

Axe have more respect in their left pinky finger, then your entire empire alliance.

You kill hundreds of missioners and logistics types daily. Real hardasses you are.

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Originally by: Valerius

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honestly, wtf are you lot on about?

yes, we may be losing more ships then we shoot down... to AXE.... but the dec is still running....

calling on killboard stats saying you shoot down faction fitted ravens of ours everyday = *******s tbh, you may shoot down one of such, maybe even two.. but who cares? we have +40 active wars atm and we are having a good time, why ruin it with comments like the ones i've seen from AXE on this thread. Try and be polite for once

To the FE post, yes... you may have camped in 8 guys of ours in a station, but you fail to mention if they were active... and what ships each part was in... 8 t1 frigs vs 2 Nosdomis = bad for your health you know...

I am not claiming AXE do logon traps, neither am i saying the OP is correct but fact is, AXE do not fight in small gangs such as us, they are rarely seen in less groups then 5 and i've personally been chased around Amarr by 10 whereoff 3 where BSs... while i was in an interceptor.

When all comes to everyone is playing to win... ofc they are, who isnt? who will fight a no win situation with their to date most expensive ship, if they can wait 10 mins and fight on better terms?

Privateers is loosely organized, we do not have corp objectives or executive orders, we fight when we want to and how we want to. Ganking solo frigs and cruisers with 20+ ships is not winning, its pathetic tbh... if you were indeed winning you'd now by a cancelled war dec...

And lastly, if you want a truer account of how the war is progressing you need to look at both boards as most people are more inclined to post their kills and "delete" their losses... claiming a board to be 100% accurate is naive at best

Val

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Originally by: Valerius

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honestly, wtf are you lot on about?

yes, we may be losing more ships then we shoot down... to AXE.... but the dec is still running....

calling on killboard stats saying you shoot down faction fitted ravens of ours everyday = *******s tbh, you may shoot down one of such, maybe even two.. but who cares? we have +40 active wars atm and we are having a good time, why ruin it with comments like the ones i've seen from AXE on this thread. Try and be polite for once

To the FE post, yes... you may have camped in 8 guys of ours in a station, but you fail to mention if they were active... and what ships each part was in... 8 t1 frigs vs 2 Nosdomis = bad for your health you know...

I am not claiming AXE do logon traps, neither am i saying the OP is correct but fact is, AXE do not fight in small gangs such as us, they are rarely seen in less groups then 5 and i've personally been chased around Amarr by 10 whereoff 3 where BSs... while i was in an interceptor.

When all comes to everyone is playing to win... ofc they are, who isnt? who will fight a no win situation with their to date most expensive ship, if they can wait 10 mins and fight on better terms?

Privateers is loosely organized, we do not have corp objectives or executive orders, we fight when we want to and how we want to. Ganking solo frigs and cruisers with 20+ ships is not winning, its pathetic tbh... if you were indeed winning you'd now by a cancelled war dec...

And lastly, if you want a truer account of how the war is progressing you need to look at both boards as most people are more inclined to post their kills and "delete" their losses... claiming a board to be 100% accurate is naive at best

Val

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Originally by: Madorthene

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On a slightly different note, I can't fathom why people have such contempt for the privateer alliance. Sure, we get the fair share of hauler kills, but how does that make us any less pvpers? We get plenty of decent fights, and they're hardly all in Jita.

I'm not ****ed, I just find the reactions of some people in this thread unnecessary.

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Originally by: Haargoth Agamar
Irony overload! [:shock:

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This is great coming from a member of Privateers who respect no one while trying desperately to convince everyone they are actually doing something. And now, finally, complaining that others gank?!

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Originally by: Valerius

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Originally by: Haargoth Agamar
Irony overload! [:shock:

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This is great coming from a member of Privateers who respect no one while trying desperately to convince everyone they are actually doing something. And now, finally, complaining that others gank?!

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what?
Do i know you? Do you know me? If not then please dont post as though you do. I respect anyone willing to fight fair.. or even fight with almost no prospect of winning.

Also please do tell me where in my post i complained about getting ganked... please do tell where it says that all we do is gank... please do get some information before you post, instead of posting on hearsay only

True, we do gank at times, true we do get ganked a lot ourselves. But what i said in my post was it is pathetic to claim ganking as winning.. i may not have made that clear enough...

We ARE doing something... It has been stated in several posts by our CEO and PR officials that Privateers is NOT looking for a fight as much as looking for fun. It is up to each member what that fun implies, be it shooting down an industrial autopiloting through empire with 60B isk in BPOs onboard (before you ask, yes i did see such an industrial and no, I only caught him an hour later ferrying POS parts and fuel) or shooting down hostile gate campers.

Most on this thread have aparently agreed on Privateers being low-life scum that haven't got a clue about PvP... well if you were a member of the corp you'd even agree with it, most of the people in here have very little experience as they are totally new to EvE or are former industrialse looking for some fun... nonetheless there are diehard PvPers in here as well whom are more then capable of handing out there share of arsewhooping.

Again i say this... take all facts into consideration before posting, you may come over as an ignorant bastard if you do not

Val

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Originally by: Lireil Crow

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Sounds like to me is that a few of your members dont like when there "easy ganks" fight back so they come to the forum to cry about it. And how the RP staff in Privateers are trying to play clean up.

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Originally by: Bob Clive

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The RP Staff

Yes, if we forum spam enough we all get access to the PREMIUM MEMBER BENEFIT'S PACKAGE. We get promoted! Hangar access to all our lewt and BPO's and shiny things at last!

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Originally by: Valerius

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honestly, wtf are you lot on about?

yes, we may be losing more ships then we shoot down... to AXE.... but the dec is still running....

calling on killboard stats saying you shoot down faction fitted ravens of ours everyday = *******s tbh, you may shoot down one of such, maybe even two.. but who cares? we have +40 active wars atm and we are having a good time, why ruin it with comments like the ones i've seen from AXE on this thread. Try and be polite for once

I am not claiming AXE do logon traps, neither am i saying the OP is correct but fact is, AXE do not fight in small gangs such as us, they are rarely seen in less groups then 5 and i've personally been chased around Amarr by 10 whereoff 3 where BSs... while i was in an interceptor.

And lastly, if you want a truer account of how the war is progressing you need to look at both boards as most people are more inclined to post their kills and "delete" their losses... claiming a board to be 100% accurate is naive at best

Val

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Originally by: ArcticFox

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Seriously, don't try to act like you guys are the reasonable ones and we're the guys starting the disrespect. The OP started this post by accusing us of using lame tactics, and only fighting 20 to 1, then proceeded to call us desperate becuase of the 'massive' numbers of ships we're losing. The responses by AXE have all been to refute this, and now you act like we're the ones making unreasonable claims.

Nobody started this thread to claim AXE was "winning" (there's no real "winning" in this kind of war anyway," but we're sure as hell not desperate. If you actually examine both killboards closely as you have told the good public to do, you will notice that nearly all of AXE's losses to Privateers have been posted on the AXE killboard. Feel free to compare it with the Privateer killboard, that's what I've been doing daily, which is why they're all there.

We understand how Privateers works, we don't expect you guys to do anything but try to run around solo or in small groups and gank ****, that's fine, I'm sure you're having lots of fun. Now you understand two things: First, how AXE works; we work together, we fight as a team, we don't claim to be the best at it, but that's how we operate. We don't sit around going "ok, there are two of them, we need at least eight" we just state their locations in corp or on TS and people show up. If you honestly expect us to say to five of our guys "sorry, you can't come, there's only five targets to hunt and we can't outnumber them" you're just being silly. Second, you guys declared on us, you can't honestly tell me you weren't expecting to get chased around by some medium-large gangs when declaring on 30+ alliances.

Oh yeah, and under what definition is 5 people a large gang? (If you care to look, there are plenty of fights and kills on both sides with around that number in gang.)

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Originally by: Grimsonjade

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o btw if you guys posted all your losses like you did your kills. maybe you would get a little respect

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Originally by: Logan Williams

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Just tell me one thing, how did you axe guys make the gate fire while you're still in the "Entering Space" screen?

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Originally by: oodin

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please dont state privateer alliance whine/smack/dont post loss/only engage haulers/ yadda yadda because every single alliance in eve have those but that doesnt mean we all do.im not sure if the axe gang that got ollo was the same that got me and all i replied in local was "nice :)" docked and fitted a new ship and off we go again,ffs its a game :)
i play to have fun and to be honest i dont care if you get me by login/jumpin/warpin as long as i have fun but loggoff/wcs is

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Originally by: Madorthene

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On a slightly different note, I can't fathom why people have such contempt for the privateer alliance. Sure, we get the fair share of hauler kills, but how does that make us any less pvpers? We get plenty of decent fights, and they're hardly all in Jita.

I'm not ****ed, I just find the reactions of some people in this thread unnecessary.

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Originally by: doctorstupid2

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As an example, we bait a gang of 3 or 4 privateers, jump in about 10 once they are agressed, and they cry in local for 10 minutes about how we blobbed them in what they intended to be a 4 on 1 gang bang. Irony much?

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Originally by: KIAEddZ

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Log On Trap In Jita..............

laooalaoalllolaloalahahahahhahaalaoalaolaoalaoalahahahhaha

You cannot be serious......

oh fk it

lolaloalallaoalllaaahahahahahhahahalololol111elevenonelololollaaahahahhaalaoalaolaoalalolLOL

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Originally by: doctorstupid2

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Originally by: Logan Williams

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Just tell me one thing, how did you axe guys make the gate fire while you're still in the "Entering Space" screen?

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with h4x, of course.

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Originally by: AKULA UrQuan

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ah...So it's AXE's fault there seems to be a Privateer wreck at every gate these days.

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Originally by: ollobrains

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stuff

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Originally by: Valerius

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honestly, wtf are you lot on about?

yes, we may be losing more ships then we shoot down... to AXE.... but the dec is still running....

calling on killboard stats saying you shoot down faction fitted ravens of ours everyday = *******s tbh, you may shoot down one of such, maybe even two.. but who cares? we have +40 active wars atm and we are having a good time, why ruin it with comments like the ones i've seen from AXE on this thread. Try and be polite for once

To the FE post, yes... you may have camped in 8 guys of ours in a station, but you fail to mention if they were active... and what ships each part was in... 8 t1 frigs vs 2 Nosdomis = bad for your health you know...

I am not claiming AXE do logon traps, neither am i saying the OP is correct but fact is, AXE do not fight in small gangs such as us, they are rarely seen in less groups then 5 and i've personally been chased around Amarr by 10 whereoff 3 where BSs... while i was in an interceptor.

When all comes to everyone is playing to win... ofc they are, who isnt? who will fight a no win situation with their to date most expensive ship, if they can wait 10 mins and fight on better terms?

Privateers is loosely organized, we do not have corp objectives or executive orders, we fight when we want to and how we want to. Ganking solo frigs and cruisers with 20+ ships is not winning, its pathetic tbh... if you were indeed winning you'd now by a cancelled war dec...

And lastly, if you want a truer account of how the war is progressing you need to look at both boards as most people are more inclined to post their kills and "delete" their losses... claiming a board to be 100% accurate is naive at best

Val

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Originally by: Kuolematon

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Yeah like BoB Armageddon that had Heavy Pulse II's fitted with like 2 or 3 stabs

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Originally by: fire 59

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You'd almost think that was a travel fit while in empire, crazy isn't it?!

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Originally by: Shuriath

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-Words and stuff and things-

BTW I've seen a titan Killmail on Huzzah killboards...... go figure...... YES!! it was a hoax, but achievable.

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Originally by: fire 59

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Originally by: Kuolematon

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Yeah like BoB Armageddon that had Heavy Pulse II's fitted with like 2 or 3 stabs

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You'd almost think that was a travel fit while in empire, crazy isn't it?!

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Originally by: KIAEddZ

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Log On Trap In Jita..............

laooalaoalllolaloalahahahahhahaalaoalaolaoalaoalahahahhaha

You cannot be serious......

oh fk it

lolaloalallaoalllaaahahahahahhahahalololol111elevenonelololollaaahahahhaalaoalaolaoalalolLOL

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Originally by: oodin

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Originally by: fire 59

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Originally by: Kuolematon

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Yeah like BoB Armageddon that had Heavy Pulse II's fitted with like 2 or 3 stabs

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You'd almost think that was a travel fit while in empire, crazy isn't it?!

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ah cmon 59 travel fit my a**
why dont you just say it.that bob was a lamer and get it over with

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Originally by: El Berto

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I actually thought your alliance was quite a nice little addition to eve, rp and gamewise. However, threads like this and your alliances constant look at me posts do you no favours.

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Originally by: oodin

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Originally by: El Berto

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I actually thought your alliance was quite a nice little addition to eve, rp and gamewise. However, threads like this and your alliances constant look at me posts do you no favours.

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there you idiots go again blaming the whole alliance for 1 guy!!! are you born this stupid or did you work on it.ollo is like aneu/butterdog and all the other posters that loves flamebait but how they manage to pull the same guys into the flamefest over and over again amaze me.
but i guess hes having fun

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Originally by: Exelsior

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Originally by: oodin

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Originally by: El Berto

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I actually thought your alliance was quite a nice little addition to eve, rp and gamewise. However, threads like this and your alliances constant look at me posts do you no favours.

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there you idiots go again blaming the whole alliance for 1 guy!!! are you born this stupid or did you work on it.ollo is like aneu/butterdog and all the other posters that loves flamebait but how they manage to pull the same guys into the flamefest over and over again amaze me.
but i guess hes having fun

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You know, I guess it never occured to you but if single people in your alliance are ruining your reputation, you might want to kick them or try to mute them at least?

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Originally by: SamuraiJack

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Hmm. Lets See.

Everyone been *****ing about logon and other dubious tactics for months. CCP does... OOOHhh... NOTHING.

Now other people start using same tactics because... Cheating = teh w1nz0r.

"My name is Aurora. How would you like to be griefed today?"

In game mechanics my ass.

***** all you want. Its the steady decline of what was an amazing game. I await the next expansion news with interest as it will determine eve's fate. PvP or Empire building?
Glorious rich deep story? or 5min ****fests of pvp?
Risk and Reward CCP said. If you want to be lowlife lieing scum then there is plenty of reward and little risk.

TQ Eve's new CS server in space.

:note: This is my personal opinion.

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Originally by: ArcticFox

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Seriously, don't try to act like you guys are the reasonable ones and we're the guys starting the disrespect. The OP started this post by accusing us of using lame tactics, and only fighting 20 to 1, then proceeded to call us desperate becuase of the 'massive' numbers of ships we're losing. The responses by AXE have all been to refute this, and now you act like we're the ones making unreasonable claims.

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Quote:

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Nobody started this thread to claim AXE was "winning" (there's no real "winning" in this kind of war anyway," but we're sure as hell not desperate. If you actually examine both killboards closely as you have told the good public to do, you will notice that nearly all of AXE's losses to Privateers have been posted on the AXE killboard. Feel free to compare it with the Privateer killboard, that's what I've been doing daily, which is why they're all there.

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We understand how Privateers works, we don't expect you guys to do anything but try to run around solo or in small groups and gank ****, that's fine, I'm sure you're having lots of fun. Now you understand two things: First, how AXE works; we work together, we fight as a team, we don't claim to be the best at it, but that's how we operate. We don't sit around going "ok, there are two of them, we need at least eight" we just state their locations in corp or on TS and people show up. If you honestly expect us to say to five of our guys "sorry, you can't come, there's only five targets to hunt and we can't outnumber them" you're just being silly. Second, you guys declared on us, you can't honestly tell me you weren't expecting to get chased around by some medium-large gangs when declaring on 30+ alliances.

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Oh yeah, and under what definition is 5 people a large gang? (If you care to look, there are plenty of fights and kills on both sides with around that number in gang.)

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Originally by: oodin

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Originally by: El Berto

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I actually thought your alliance was quite a nice little addition to eve, rp and gamewise. However, threads like this and your alliances constant look at me posts do you no favours.

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there you idiots go again blaming the whole alliance for 1 guy!!! are you born this stupid or did you work on it.ollo is like aneu/butterdog and all the other posters that loves flamebait but how they manage to pull the same guys into the flamefest over and over again amaze me.
but i guess hes having fun

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Originally by: El Berto

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Originally by: oodin

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Originally by: El Berto

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I actually thought your alliance was quite a nice little addition to eve, rp and gamewise. However, threads like this and your alliances constant look at me posts do you no favours.

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there you idiots go again blaming the whole alliance for 1 guy!!! are you born this stupid or did you work on it.ollo is like aneu/butterdog and all the other posters that loves flamebait but how they manage to pull the same guys into the flamefest over and over again amaze me.
but i guess hes having fun

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Well retorted, calling me stupid. Where do you find such elegance? You sir are a wit. Following the classical internet arguement lets bring the ****s in next.

All I was saying that the actual idea of the alliance is a good one and posts like this do it no favours, which you agreed with and then called me an idiot. Can we shut up and fight now?

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Originally by: Valerius

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Why do you look at both boards if your board is 100% accurate? You arent unfallable yourself, you may have missed some... and i agree, everyone should post all their losses along with their kills but fact is... a lot dont, which is why you are "forced" to look on other boards for more loss mails

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Originally by: Valerius

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calling on backup when outnumbering/outgunning the oponent already isnt needed, everyone enjoys a fair fight whilst only one part enjoys a gank. I have nothing but respect for people willing to test themselves.

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Ganking solo frigs and cruisers with 20+ ships is not winning, its pathetic tbh... if you were indeed winning you'd now by a cancelled war dec...

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Originally by: ArcticFox

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Right, if you insist on twisting my words we can go on arguing forever. I never stated anywhere that the AXE Killboard is 100% accurate or that AXE members post all their losses. I said nearly all of AXE's losses to Privateers are currently up, because I acknowledge the need to look on other boards. So you're essentially arguing I'm wrong on a point that I didn't make.

Neither did I say anywhere that you should look only at the AXE board and not the Privateers board. In fact I said the opposite. I was trying to counter what I perceived as the implication that our view of the war is based entirely on total trust in our own killboard, which it is not.

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And you are assuming that calling in backup is what we are doing rather than just moving, as we are used to, in groups, is based on what exactly? You may not see all of us there right away but that doesn't mean we aren't already in a gang and just split up searching. If someone wants to test themselves I have no problem holding myself and other gang members back, but neither am I going to force them just to make it more "fair" to the other side.

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Originally by: KIAEddZ

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Log On Trap In Jita..............

laooalaoalllolaloalahahahahhahaalaoalaolaoalaoalahahahhaha

You cannot be serious......

oh fk it

lolaloalallaoalllaaahahahahahhahahalololol111elevenonelololollaaahahahhaalaoalaolaoalalolLOL

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Originally by: Shuriath

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Originally by: KIAEddZ

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Log On Trap In Jita..............

laooalaoalllolaloalahahahahhahaalaoalaolaoalaoalahahahhaha

You cannot be serious......

oh fk it

lolaloalallaoalllaaahahahahahhahahalololol111elevenonelololollaaahahahhaalaoalaolaoalalolLOL

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I nearly wet myself when i read your reply, <3 KIAEddz

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Originally by: Pete Tosh

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blah blah

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Quote:

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You yourself stated so
" We don't sit around going "ok, there are two of them, we need at least eight" we just state their locations in corp or on TS and people show up. "

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Originally by: DeathGrip

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This thread is almost funny.

Lets start an alliance, war dec everyone we can, get some kills, get killed, and cry about how we are out numbered.

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Originally by: ArcticFox

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We don't call out for backup when we run into something we can take with what we have, partly because it's uneccessary, as you said, and partly because in the time it would take waiting for backup, you've usually lost yourself a target.

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Originally by: Pete Tosh

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Edited by: Pete Tosh on 03/01/2007 14:10:19

Originally by: Shuriath

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Originally by: KIAEddZ

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Log On Trap In Jita..............

laooalaoalllolaloalahahahahhahaalaoalaolaoalaoalahahahhaha

You cannot be serious......

oh fk it

lolaloalallaoalllaaahahahahahhahahalololol111elevenonelololollaaahahahhaalaoalaolaoalalolLOL

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I nearly wet myself when i read your reply, <3 KIAEddz

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if u find that funny u need to get a life dude,**** this and wow off and maybe try to get a shag.

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Originally by: Omega Man

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Edited by: Omega Man on 03/01/2007 14:26:59

Originally by: Pete Tosh

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blah blah

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i know you are only a six day old alt and clearly a total nub but posting without an corp/alliance tag is going to get your posts deleted (and not a moment too soon).

So why not join all your other alts in privateers alliance so you can at least join all your mates.

You may also notice the filters do a good job of restricting what is clearly a painfully limited vocabulary at your disposal.

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Originally by: Pete Tosh

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Edited by: Pete Tosh on 03/01/2007 14:52:35

Originally by: Omega Man

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Edited by: Omega Man on 03/01/2007 14:26:59

Originally by: Pete Tosh

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blah blah

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i know you are only a six day old alt and clearly a total nub but posting without an corp/alliance tag is going to get your posts deleted (and not a moment too soon).

So why not join all your other alts in privateers alliance so you can at least join all your mates.

You may also notice the filters do a good job of restricting what is clearly a painfully limited vocabulary at your disposal.

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The old "lack of vocab" argument wears thin, and is basically the response of a big headed sphincter.
the funny thing is, no one listens to you either.
My post willbe deleted.
/care

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Originally by: Haargoth Agamar

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Originally by: Madorthene

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On a slightly different note, I can't fathom why people have such contempt for the privateer alliance. Sure, we get the fair share of hauler kills, but how does that make us any less pvpers? We get plenty of decent fights, and they're hardly all in Jita.

I'm not ****ed, I just find the reactions of some people in this thread unnecessary.

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I have a little bit of respect for you guys but most of your corp is alts that seem to enjoy smacking quite a bit. Also, most of you guys just can't get it out of your heads that you really aren't bothering major alliances as much as you think you are. You might be killing the odd freighter and many haulers, but how many of those are actually containing alliance items? Most are for personal profits on the pilots and if they are going afk in Empire during a wardec, then they are just stupid.

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Secondly advanced drone interfacing modules can only be fitted to titans.

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Originally by: oodin

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Edited by: oodin on 03/01/2007 12:04:05

Originally by: oodin

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ah cmon 59 travel fit my a**
why dont you just say it.that bob was a lamer and get it over with
*edit* notice i said "that" bob.i dont say bob are wcs lamers when it was 1 pilot.same as not all privateers are blobbers/gankers/whatever you call us these days and same as not all BOB are uber as you guys like to belive.in fact some of you guys are pure crap pvp'ers and please dont say thats because they are the idustrial backbone

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Wow buddy. Do you honestly think you are talented enough to be called gankers? Influencial enough to be called blobbers?

Must be one of those empire huggers that believes a blob is a 5 man cruiser gang. And that killing a hauler full of exotic dancers makes you a ganker.

I think your little alliance needs to go sit in 0.0 for a good year before you start commenting on PVP in eve period.

At best you can think that we call you guys pushovers/target practise/fitting testing.

Next time you guys get out played in eve, (becuase it wasnt a log on trap, i've lived with log on traps for the last 6 months. It's called alternate routes), don't come *****ing to the forums.

-hOr

Originally by: fire 59

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Edited by: fire 59 on 03/01/2007 12:08:06

Originally by: oodin

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Originally by: fire 59

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Originally by: Kuolematon

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Yeah like BoB Armageddon that had Heavy Pulse II's fitted with like 2 or 3 stabs

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You'd almost think that was a travel fit while in empire, crazy isn't it?!

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ah cmon 59 travel fit my a**
why dont you just say it.that bob was a lamer and get it over with

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Well i certainly aren't going to do that. It makes little sense to wear stab's now and then try to pvp so logically i assumed it was a travel fit, i didn't know it was at an undock point, or the whole story so can't comment on the particular's, only what it looked like

Edit - What was the date that this happened, i would be interested in having a looksie myself

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Originally by: Ghostthor

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same old tired crap

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Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi

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Then perhaps bash your squishy brainmeats out on your keyboard.

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Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi

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more tired crap

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Originally by: fire 59

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Ah bless, when you went to blob a hauler in jita, they counterblobbed with a log on. This bring's a tearto my eye, it truly does........not. You guy's moaning about being ganked when you gank all day is, um, silly.

You say it smack's of desperation? AAA do it all the time (Tm) and are they desperate?

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Originally by: Horza Otho

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They learned it from fighting triple A ^^

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Originally by: Valerius

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We understand how Privateers works, we don't expect you guys to do anything but try to run around solo or in small groups and gank ****, that's fine, I'm sure you're having lots of fun. Now you understand two things: First, how AXE works; we work together, we fight as a team, we don't claim to be the best at it, but that's how we operate. We don't sit around going "ok, there are two of them, we need at least eight" we just state their locations in corp or on TS and people show up. If you honestly expect us to say to five of our guys "sorry, you can't come, there's only five targets to hunt and we can't outnumber them" you're just being silly. Second, you guys declared on us, you can't honestly tell me you weren't expecting to get chased around by some medium-large gangs when declaring on 30+ alliances.

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I do realise we declared on you, and yes i do realise we have a LOT of wars going on atm... guess what, there are more coming every day and I am still here as are a lot of other members.
I do also realise telling your members "No, you cannot come" is impossible, but calling on backup when outnumbering/outgunning the oponent already isnt needed, everyone enjoys a fair fight whilst only one part enjoys a gank. I have nothing but respect for people willing to test themselves.

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Originally by: SamuraiJack

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stuff

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Originally by: SamuraiJack

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Hmm. Lets See.

Everyone been *****ing about logon and other dubious tactics for months. CCP does... OOOHhh... NOTHING.

Now other people start using same tactics because... Cheating = teh w1nz0r.

"My name is Aurora. How would you like to be griefed today?"

In game mechanics my ass.

***** all you want. Its the steady decline of what was an amazing game. I await the next expansion news with interest as it will determine eve's fate. PvP or Empire building?
Glorious rich deep story? or 5min ****fests of pvp?
Risk and Reward CCP said. If you want to be lowlife lieing scum then there is plenty of reward and little risk.

TQ Eve's new CS server in space.

:note: This is my personal opinion.

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Originally by: ollobrains

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Lame folks - engaging one then having 20 of u log in suddenly to join youre friend is just lame

A heads up folks its allowed yes but AXE use the log in tactic because they are afraid to loose ships

Is this endorsed by their leadership or are these isolated incidents by a few fc - either way id like to bring to eves attention axioms continued use of log in log off traps to get unfair and unbalanced kills

Feel free to share with us youre axe log in lame stories and losses and we still manage to kill them to

To the devs we ask again for u to fix this issue so that axe cannot continue to be lame in their PVP style it smacks of desperation as they are loosing a lot of ships in this war

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Originally by: Pilk

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Originally by: SamuraiJack

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stuff

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Read the damn thread before you just magically believe this sort of crap about your former ally, dude. You can't make a post like yours based on reading the OP and stopping there. :\ I'd appreciate an edit on your part, even Val is saying we didn't do a logon trap.

--P

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Originally by: Valerius

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I do realise we declared on you, and yes i do realise we have a LOT of wars going on atm... guess what, there are more coming every day and I am still here as are a lot of other members.
I do also realise telling your members "No, you cannot come" is impossible, but calling on backup when outnumbering/outgunning the oponent already isnt needed, everyone enjoys a fair fight whilst only one part enjoys a gank. I have nothing but respect for people willing to test themselves.

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Originally by: Benny Hill

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Edited by: Benny Hill on 03/01/2007 18:39:51

Originally by: Valerius

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I do realise we declared on you, and yes i do realise we have a LOT of wars going on atm... guess what, there are more coming every day and I am still here as are a lot of other members.
I do also realise telling your members "No, you cannot come" is impossible, but calling on backup when outnumbering/outgunning the oponent already isnt needed, everyone enjoys a fair fight whilst only one part enjoys a gank. I have nothing but respect for people willing to test themselves.

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Do you realize that you are equating "War" with "Fair Fight?" That is absurd. The Privateer Alliance declares wars on alliance to gank their haulers. And - that is a fair fight to you? Ganking a hauler? But - when the grim reality of a PVP alliance making its hope in EMpire space, and omgwtfholys&*tmegapwn a ship its all of a sudden not fair?

I expect the mettle of the Privateer Alliance to be melted within a week, and the war declared on AXE to be dropped.

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Originally by: Benny Hill

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I expect the mettle of the Privateer Alliance to be melted within a week, and the war declared on AXE to be dropped.

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Originally by: kabayn

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I fight 1 vs 1 cruiser battles.

I the best...

That is all.

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Originally by: Grimsonjade
o btw if you guys posted all your losses like you did your kills. maybe you would get a little respect

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The base of it is you are not liked, something you got to live with, and when it all goes sour having Privateers Alliance on your employment history is going to close a lot of doors.

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This thread is almost funny. Lets start an alliance, war dec everyone we can, get some kills, get killed, and cry about how we are out numbered.

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Originally by: Kuolematon

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Wars? What Wars?

Let the smack begin! (Oh and I love this alliance. I hope BoB will still allow me to join their allaince once they win EVE )

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Originally by: Omega Man

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The base of it is you are not liked, something you got to live with, and when it all goes sour having Privateers Alliance on your employment history is going to close a lot of doors.

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Originally by: Tuxford

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once tried to kick my brother when I had my pants around my ankle. Probably not my brightest moments

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Originally by: ollobrains

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low sec pirates bored of their lifestyles and low sec status are now joining us to. Some remain to pirate in low sec as explained as long as they dont grief fellow privateers piracy in low sec against non wt is also encouraged we are also planning on moving into high sec suicide gank tactics against enemy haulers in NPC corps that have more than 100-200m in their holds ( making it safe for less ppl to hide) and as always profitable for us

So if youre a merc bored or a pirate bored we have so many running wars u are bound to find pew pew. As a corp u can join to i think the only requirement that surreptitious has is that u pay for one war dec a week ( a simple 50m contribution i think u get to choose juicy targets as well) more corps more wars more numbers.

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Originally by: ollobrains

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Is this endorsed by their leadership or are these isolated incidents by a few fc - either way id like to bring to eves attention axioms continued use of log in log off traps to get unfair and unbalanced kills

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Originally by: Grenadyr

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My apologies!
Maybe you can do me a favor and tell the guy I fought, killed, and podded 2 times in a row that a manticore may look like a kestrel BUT it has a lil more kick!
Tell him thanks 4 the 4 kms in 10 mins!
/me Here Ray hold my beer Im going in!

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Originally by: Dragerest

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me {hearts} the skunk

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Originally by: Omega Man

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killmail, what killmail.

Lost an absolution recently you dont want to tell us about Kuolematon?

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Originally by: pylons38

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i'll keep this short

lol. privateers are a joke.

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Originally by: pylons38

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i'll keep this short

lol. privateers are a joke.

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Originally by: Sadao

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Ah we only gank haulers?

Today, in Kisogo, we engaged AXE gatecamp with highly uneven odds:

PRVTR - Typhoon, Dominix, Wolf, Rifter, Taranis
vs.
AXE - Megathron, Eos, Deimos, Myrmidon, Harpy

And yes, we came out on top of that. And you might want to check killboard before accusing us of only ganking haulers.

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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix

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I can attest to one log in trap that axe set in Juunigaishi. Sadly it only netted them one of Privateers newest members. My caracal escaped as axe is to slow to jam anything smaller than a cruiser.

You can check our killboard for the loss, Alexander Nexus, him and his tristan got hit by 4 guys, while the other two attempted to chase me.

It was really great seeing a Raptor sitting at the gate, it was even better watching him engage me. What was better than that, was watching local suddently show 5 additional War Targets, no sound from the gate, and instantly having the majority of them sitting more than 20 km from the gate. I don't know you guys can claim warp in tactics when your guys are sitting odd numbers from the gate, and your own guys, or how you can claim you jumped in when uedema was clear before hand, and the gate never sounded 5 times, nor 1 for that matter.

I love the hypocrisy that exists in people that despise log-offs, but then attempt log-ons. Truely sad when an alliance has to stoop so low as to create hypocrits out of themselves. If this was rogue members, then they should be lashed in some way, but if the leadership pushes this then truely something terrible is happening within AXE.

On a side note, since that day where we noted 3 seperate log-on traps there have been no more. Perhaps our posting here in the forums have sparked them to think twice before they attempt a log-on trap again. One can only hope.

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Originally by: Steel Rat

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ROFL! Thats right, keep pushing this. From now on, everytime you scream login trap, I am screaming YOU SUCK AT PVP! Only difference, mines the truth and yours is a lame attempt to cover up the fact. I call bull**** on this particular incident because I was online at the time and these guys never logged off to trap anyone.

If these stories of getting your butts ganked is your sole proof that Axe's roaming gangs are actually login traps, you need better stories. Why on earth would we waste our time setting up a login trap for a tristan and a caracel? You obviously don't have a clue about Axe and in particular, DDC's PvP pilots. If I was going to login trap, wouldn't I have done it against AAA's dreads when taking out our POSs? I mean, there was just a little more at stake there dontcha think? But no, I didn't do it then, but now, DON'T LET A SINGLE TRISTAN SURVIVE OR YOUR OUT OF AXE! DO LOGIN TRAPS IF YOU HAVE TO! IF 1 TRISTAN SURIVES, YOUR ALL FIRED! is my rally call today.

If nothing else, the comedic value of the Privateers is well worth it.

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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix

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Originally by: Steel Rat

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ROFL! Thats right, keep pushing this. From now on, everytime you scream login trap, I am screaming YOU SUCK AT PVP! Only difference, mines the truth and yours is a lame attempt to cover up the fact. I call bull**** on this particular incident because I was online at the time and these guys never logged off to trap anyone.

If these stories of getting your butts ganked is your sole proof that Axe's roaming gangs are actually login traps, you need better stories. Why on earth would we waste our time setting up a login trap for a tristan and a caracel? You obviously don't have a clue about Axe and in particular, DDC's PvP pilots. If I was going to login trap, wouldn't I have done it against AAA's dreads when taking out our POSs? I mean, there was just a little more at stake there dontcha think? But no, I didn't do it then, but now, DON'T LET A SINGLE TRISTAN SURVIVE OR YOUR OUT OF AXE! DO LOGIN TRAPS IF YOU HAVE TO! IF 1 TRISTAN SURIVES, YOUR ALL FIRED! is my rally call today.

If nothing else, the comedic value of the Privateers is well worth it.

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Oh? I didn't realize we were constantly screaming log-on traps. yes there are two different threads, the other thread shouldn'tve been posted. But both are of the same day. You keep saying we suck at PvP. And yet we have dropped much more of your Combat ships than you have ours. Null statement.

Look, you guys did it one day, that's all anyone has said. I said you haven't done it since, and I applaud that. I wasn't even going to post about it on this threads as the tristan loss was nothing, and it didn't matter all that much. However, you seem so intent on calling us liars. Talk to anyone that was on alliance that day. They all heard it, from multiple people. If you believe this is some kind of conspiracy to ruin your PR... well go ahead believe that. Those of us that are sensible realize how pathetic that really is.

It happened.. you are lucky I don't have fraps. As I have not seen this since, I consider the matter over with. I wasn't the original poster on this thread even. In fact I was told to post my experience here by multiple members of the alliance, and not just your gun-ho guys, but guys that also truely want this game to continue in a respectible way. It just the same as I do see members of your alliance respectible, and intellectual people. Yet again it is the very vocal minority that have laid a mark of disgust upon your alliances head, namely you for one.

Offer me a conversation that is sensible, considerate, constructive, and intellectual. Only then will I consider highly of you in my book. Thus far all I hear is childish blabber. It is not just my alliance's reputation that takes a hit from people posting on a whim, it is your alliance that suffers as well when people like you do the same.

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Originally by: doctorstupid2

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And yet not a single one of you can provide any proof. Oh, if we had been in your alliance chat, THEN we would KNOW it happened. Because being online with these people, and even in gang (with fraps running ) for one of these alleged occurances, means nothing. After all, I can't see your alliance chat.

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Originally by: doctorstupid2

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And yet not a single one of you can provide any proof. Oh, if we had been in your alliance chat, THEN we would KNOW it happened. Because being online with these people, and even in gang (with fraps running ) for one of these alleged occurances, means nothing. After all, I can't see your alliance chat.

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You have spies.

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Originally by: doctorstupid2

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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Originally by: doctorstupid2

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And yet not a single one of you can provide any proof. Oh, if we had been in your alliance chat, THEN we would KNOW it happened. Because being online with these people, and even in gang (with fraps running ) for one of these alleged occurances, means nothing. After all, I can't see your alliance chat.

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You have spies.

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If we do, they aren't doing a very good job. And if we did, you'd have a suspiciously high occurance of your gang mates tackling you.

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Originally by: Kuolematon

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Originally by: Omega Man

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killmail, what killmail.

Lost an absolution recently you dont want to tell us about Kuolematon?

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Your totally right in this matter. I'm a****got who don't post his loses and I smell funny.

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Originally by: Leto Twin

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You mean in the recruitment drive that let just about everyone in, you didn't get one in?!

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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix

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I can attest to one log in trap that axe set in Juunigaishi. Sadly it only netted them one of Privateers newest members. My caracal escaped as axe is to slow to jam anything smaller than a cruiser.

You can check our killboard for the loss, Alexander Nexus, him and his tristan got hit by 4 guys, while the other two attempted to chase me.

It was really great seeing a Raptor sitting at the gate, it was even better watching him engage me. What was better than that, was watching local suddently show 5 additional War Targets, no sound from the gate, and instantly having the majority of them sitting more than 20 km from the gate. I don't know you guys can claim warp in tactics when your guys are sitting odd numbers from the gate, and your own guys, or how you can claim you jumped in when uedema was clear before hand, and the gate never sounded 5 times, nor 1 for that matter.

I love the hypocrisy that exists in people that despise log-offs, but then attempt log-ons. Truely sad when an alliance has to stoop so low as to create hypocrits out of themselves. If this was rogue members, then they should be lashed in some way, but if the leadership pushes this then truely something terrible is happening within AXE.

On a side note, since that day where we noted 3 seperate log-on traps there have been no more. Perhaps our posting here in the forums have sparked them to think twice before they attempt a log-on trap again. One can only hope.

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Originally by: ollobrains

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having fun we are ....

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Originally by: III LightBringer

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Login Traps, are legal.
I doubt a roaming AXE gang would bother to do a logintrap. And even if they did, so what?
Anyone trying to play eve honerably, like par example, the 'Cyvok' way of the past, looses.

Logonski-Logoffski / Lagonski / Corp-theft / Scamming / hacking / infiltrating / backstabbing..
That is the only way to play EVE, and win, and the sooner you all realize that, the better.

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Originally by: ollobrains

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Lame folks - engaging one then having 20 of u log in suddenly to join youre friend is just lame

A heads up folks its allowed yes but AXE use the log in tactic because they are afraid to loose ships

Is this endorsed by their leadership or are these isolated incidents by a few fc - either way id like to bring to eves attention axioms continued use of log in log off traps to get unfair and unbalanced kills

Feel free to share with us youre axe log in lame stories and losses and we still manage to kill them to

To the devs we ask again for u to fix this issue so that axe cannot continue to be lame in their PVP style it smacks of desperation as they are loosing a lot of ships in this war

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Originally by: Omega Man

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I guess you just think your alliance killboard is not good enough place to post then

LinkLinkage

Fair enough most see it as a joke, I can understand your reluctance.

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Originally by: Evenfall Phoenix

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I can attest to one log in trap that axe set in Juunigaishi. Sadly it only netted them one of Privateers newest members. My caracal escaped as axe is to slow to jam anything smaller than a cruiser.

You can check our killboard for the loss, Alexander Nexus, him and his tristan got hit by 4 guys, while the other two attempted to chase me.

It was really great seeing a Raptor sitting at the gate, it was even better watching him engage me. What was better than that, was watching local suddently show 5 additional War Targets, no sound from the gate, and instantly having the majority of them sitting more than 20 km from the gate. I don't know you guys can claim warp in tactics when your guys are sitting odd numbers from the gate, and your own guys, or how you can claim you jumped in when uedema was clear before hand, and the gate never sounded 5 times, nor 1 for that matter.

I love the hypocrisy that exists in people that despise log-offs, but then attempt log-ons. Truely sad when an alliance has to stoop so low as to create hypocrits out of themselves. If this was rogue members, then they should be lashed in some way, but if the leadership pushes this then truely something terrible is happening within AXE.

On a side note, since that day where we noted 3 seperate log-on traps there have been no more. Perhaps our posting here in the forums have sparked them to think twice before they attempt a log-on trap again. One can only hope.

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Oh? I didn't realize we were constantly screaming log-on traps. yes there are two different threads, the other thread shouldn'tve been posted. But both are of the same day. You keep saying we suck at PvP. And yet we have dropped much more of your Combat ships than you have ours. Null statement.

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Originally by: PHPR Freighter

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you claim to have a "noble goal in provoking alliances in empire" but when I travel through (and you were in the system as well) You don't even chase me down to pod me or even blow up my Cyclone.

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Originally by: PHPR Freighter

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oh, also, you don't make much isk anyways. The Really Awesome Players (Ticker is TRAPS) left your alliance for whatever reason, and I do have the logs to prove it that they left as well. Just give me the word and I can have it in your Eve Mail Inbox the moment you send me a message :P

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Originally by: Omega Man

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killmail, what killmail.
Lost an absolution recently you dont want to tell us about Kuolematon?

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As far as I can see, its only a couple of privateer pilots who have fallen foul of this. Is it too great a leap of imagination to think maybe just a few AXE pilots are using the trap???

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Originally by: Le Skunk

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RE LOG ON TRAP

As far as I can see, its only a couple of privateer pilots who have fallen foul of this. Is it too great a leap of imagination to think maybe just a few AXE pilots are using the trap???

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Originally by: PHPR Freighter

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ok....

you say that any corp was available to join or leave whenever. How come my alt was unable to join even though I have the corp for personal means? It may be a 1 man corp, but its a corp.

and me flaming in every thread you guys have? I only have done 2 including this one. and maybe 2-3 posts in each.

Please double check your sources next time before you come in here and accusing me of flaming in everything thread you guys possible own.

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Originally by: DHB FooFighter

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Originally by: ollobrains

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valid topic we know other peeps do it , im just naming and shaming here in the corp discussion forums its a valid topic.

Continue disucssion

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I think the saying is.

Proof or STFU.

Axe have more respect in their left pinky finger, then your entire empire alliance.

You kill hundreds of missioners and logistics types daily. Real hardasses you are.

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Originally by: Derran

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Hahaha. And how would that be different than camping the entrances into 0.0 that border secure systems where they can run if things go wrong but where they can gank people travelling alone or in small groups? Yes, real respectful and brave.

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Originally by: PHPR Freighter

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It was thus on side 2) that I would have liked to do against RA and other LV's Enemies to be more help to them.

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Originally by: PHPR Freighter

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Also, you guys are Contradicting your selves. You say you stay in Empire, but (in this thread or another) you guys would move to 0.0 or Low sec. How doest that mess with your plans and original objectives.

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Originally by: PHPR Freighter

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I also figured out how you war dec people. Courtesy of a former member :P

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It's like Ginger Magician and Daniel Jackson had hundreds of babies and put them all in the same alliance.

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Originally by: PHPR Freighter

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I also figured out how you war dec people. Courtesy of a former member :P

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Originally by: PHPR Freighter

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I was told that you guys do a CEO vote for who to war dec. not who has the biggest pockets. but its your guys' alliance so you can do what you want.

anyways.. I see tons of RA/Goon/TCF in Empire anyways. the occasional Roadkill

Just to give you guys a heads up :P

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