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Snow Monkey
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.01.03 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: Snow Monkey on 03/01/2007 15:52:43
I'm not sure if this has been answered before now, the search option on these forums isn't the best...
How many bookmarks were removed in the purge, and how much of an effect has this had on performance etc? Was there as much resources freed as you'd hoped?
Curious Monkey...
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar
LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2007.01.03 15:52:00 -
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Something i'd love to know as well.. Please release this information for public viewing 
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2007.01.03 18:34:00 -
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If I recall correctly, they said that bookmark use accounted for 15% of database activity.
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kieron
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Posted - 2007.01.03 18:42:00 -
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I've requested some numbers resulting from the warp to 0 change and bookmarks. I do know that before the bookmark overhaul there were over 270 million bookmarks in the database, the majority of which were removed by users or the server. I'll pass along the information when I get an answer.
kieron
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Sally Va
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Posted - 2007.01.03 18:47:00 -
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Why don't you write a blog about it.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2007.01.03 18:50:00 -
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There was no felt improvement ingame unless you really had a lot of bookmarks.
If you had a lot of them, the login and recovery from jumpsickness went much smoother.  But that was well known, but widely ignored by people who bought thousands of BP.
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar
LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2007.01.03 18:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Sally Va
Why don't you write a blog about it.
Call me what you like, but i'd rather not have to wait 3 months for it in blog form to get posted on the boards.
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Cabadrin
Caldari
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.01.03 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
I've requested some numbers resulting from the warp to 0 change and bookmarks. I do know that before the bookmark overhaul there were over 270 million bookmarks in the database, the majority of which were removed by users or the server. I'll pass along the information when I get an answer.
Oh mah god, 270 million? 270,000,000 / 180,000 accounts = ~1500 per person!
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Eralus
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Posted - 2007.01.03 18:59:00 -
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I had a few hundred self-made bookmarks. The auto-purge got all but about 25 of them, and I've since deleted all but 4.
I've noticed a dramatic improvement in load time going into the game.
I've also noticed, in general, that Jita seems to be much less laggy at a given level of users than it used to be, although I have no way of knowing if that's due to bookmarks or something else.
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DarkMatter
Amarr
Mineral Aquisition Group
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Posted - 2007.01.03 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Cabadrin
Originally by: kieron
I've requested some numbers resulting from the warp to 0 change and bookmarks. I do know that before the bookmark overhaul there were over 270 million bookmarks in the database, the majority of which were removed by users or the server. I'll pass along the information when I get an answer.
Oh mah god, 270 million? 270,000,000 / 180,000 accounts = ~1500 per person!
I had way more than 1500...
4 accounts, each had a few thousand!
I'm glad they abolished them!
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Kerushi
Caldari
BIG
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.01.03 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: DarkMatter
Originally by: Cabadrin
Originally by: kieron
I've requested some numbers resulting from the warp to 0 change and bookmarks. I do know that before the bookmark overhaul there were over 270 million bookmarks in the database, the majority of which were removed by users or the server. I'll pass along the information when I get an answer.
Oh mah god, 270 million? 270,000,000 / 180,000 accounts = ~1500 per person!
I had way more than 1500...
4 accounts, each had a few thousand!
I'm glad they abolished them!
have 4 accounts and each had wayyy over 20k per char, some of those account alts had a few regions aswell, think it`s safe to say that i`ve removed atleast 90k bm`s on my side 
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Snow Monkey
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.01.07 16:27:00 -
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Little bump. ;)
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Xaroth Brook
Minmatar
Doomcraft
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Posted - 2007.01.08 08:29:00 -
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imagine how much there would be if they didn't remove it.. i mean.. new regions, new bookmarks, more people buying it.. we'd be well good on our way to the 400m bookmarks by now...
I'm glad they are gone.. how sad I am that I spent money on em to begin with.. but you can't have it all.
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Posted - 2007.01.08 14:36:00 -
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I had about 200 now im down to around 100.
It removed all my gate instas, fair enough, very few of my station instas, got most of them myself.
Unfortunitly it got 3/4 of my safe spots, all my super safe spots that had been handed down from generation to generation... that kinda sucked. Noticed some slight improvements with logging on, but then i guess i wasnt the bookmark hoarder being targetted.
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.01.08 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Cabadrin
Originally by: kieron
I've requested some numbers resulting from the warp to 0 change and bookmarks. I do know that before the bookmark overhaul there were over 270 million bookmarks in the database, the majority of which were removed by users or the server. I'll pass along the information when I get an answer.
Oh mah god, 270 million? 270,000,000 / 180,000 accounts = ~1500 per person!
1500 seem few. People were selling entire region BMs. Lonetrek + Forge alone reach around ~1100 BMs
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.08 14:52:00 -
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You can make bookmarks in this game!?!?! That would have made my Veldspar lovin' so much easier than approaching...
But speaking of BMs, I still have BMs that are within range of stations and gates so it seems that not all BMs was purged, but the BMs load so much faster now - good change.
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Lt Angus
Caldari
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.08 15:08:00 -
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I had 500 
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Lucio
Gallente
UK Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.08 15:51:00 -
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I must have been in a minority, I think I had 50 tops on each character and probably not even that.
Still got through 0.0 most of the time though :)
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Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.08 16:04:00 -
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Hm think had only 1000 or so...like to see numbers though
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Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.01.08 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba
You can make bookmarks in this game!?!?! That would have made my Veldspar lovin' so much easier than approaching...
But speaking of BMs, I still have BMs that are within range of stations and gates so it seems that not all BMs was purged, but the BMs load so much faster now - good change.
Ya about the same idea.
Lot of old bookmark pointing from ancien jump still exist :D
They were probably removed in RedMoon period (around 40-50 stargate).
They should reconnect all old gates, run script of bookmark and disconect old gate again :D
Could get an extra 10-20m useless bookmark.
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Kreul Intentions
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.01.08 16:09:00 -
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I had well over 4000 Bookmarks myself. All gone now except for a few locations.
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kieron
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:02:00 -
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I received the datamining request from the operations team concerning bookmarks. Please keep in mind that there are bookmarks in locations other than People & Places that need to be removed, so there is still more to be gained over coming weeks and months.
Approx. number of bookmarks in the database at the introduction of Warp to 0 and bookmark deletion: over 280 million.
Number of bookmarks deleted: just under 227 million.
Number of bookmarks remaining (user owned or 'in the system'): ~33 million.
Amount of database space freed: ~15 GB
Performance improvement data is still being examined. Please keep in mind that massive code and database structure changes were made at the same time bookmarks were deleted, so we cannot point to any one change and say, "This was responsible for a x% reduction in latency." However, we know disk queues and db waits are lower and player log-in and session change times have significantly decreased.
We still have more to do, as the community deletes bookmarks, we still have to remove them from the deleted item database, aka the 'junkyards'. As this progresses database performance will continue to improve, but these improvements may not be readily apparent to the community.
We've made it a long way, but still have a bit to go. The community has been great with their support and continuing to delete unneeded bookmarks will help out even more.
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Loot Monkey
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:21:00 -
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w00t, nice answer, and thanks
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DaHeaVYFo
Gallente
Guardians of Hell's Gate
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.09 23:29:00 -
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Good to see... But I'm not removing my bookmarks due to the workload it would take me. I had to clear out my cache too many times, so all folders got mixed up. Too many valuable Midsafes - scanning points - sniping spots (an the like), etc.... remain cluttered in the mess i've made ... I'm sure now that we don't have the "loading/copying" helps the servers' resources aswell...
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Haffrage
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.10 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Approx. number of bookmarks in the database at the introduction of Warp to 0 and bookmark deletion: over 280 million.
Number of bookmarks deleted: just under 227 million.
jesus christ 
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Cartiff
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.01.10 06:49:00 -
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i only had about 10k ish, now i have about 50
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Ralara
Caldari
Reunited
O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.01.10 08:31:00 -
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I had about 600 or so before - I just used certain routes, not entire regions.
I'm down to about 20 now and those are for things like posses, secure ammo cans and warp bubble anchoring points.
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The Armin
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.01.10 08:44:00 -
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Now just increase the warp to range to 0->200 instead of 0->100, so we can get rid of sniper bm's too =]
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.10 09:05:00 -
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15Gb, over 240m records? Crikey!
How does this affect users who have deactivated their accounts pre-kali, yet still have a few thousand bookmarks? I am sure the total number of bookmarks is insignificant, but still.
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Snow Monkey
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.01.12 15:11:00 -
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Cheers for the answer. :)
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