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Cearain
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Posted - 2015.11.09 19:40:15 -
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Master Sergeant MacRobert wrote:
I've no real objection to OGB.
You can argue that they broaden the combat options and profiles as much as they reduce, you have to adapt your engagement choices..
Of course they broaden the options for people using the boosts. Its like saying saying if you pay ccp an extra 15/month so you can fly a t3d in novice plexes. Except your t3d looks like a frigate.
For everyone else it limits the options. I used to warp in against kiting ships, hoping to sling shot them. But when links started becoming so prevalent forget it. Even when they warp in on you the crazy low signature and speed means you can't catch them unless you have a fantastic internet connection. Might as well warp off even if you are already in the plex.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2015.11.10 17:12:45 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:Calm down everyone. Boosters are moving on grid in the fall of 2016.
t3 boosters will lose a bit more ooomph and the tankier command ships will get a leg up.
Source please.
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2015.11.11 23:31:39 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Abannans Forum Alt wrote:still whining over an extra 15 dollars? lol What if it becomes 3 accounts? Or 4? This is a bad trend. I don't want my chances at a game to be so heavily dependent on how much extra cash, on top of the initial subscription, that I'm willing to fork over to the developer.
That is the question the defenders of this bad mechanic never answer. Those who defend ogb seem to think dragging around one alt is fun. But why stop there wouldn't it be even more fun if you had to drag around 2, or 3, or 10? Or is it the case that paying an extra $15/month to drag one alt around is the "sweet spot"?
Scipio Artelius wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:Calm down everyone. Boosters are moving on grid in the fall of 2016.
t3 boosters will lose a bit more ooomph and the tankier command ships will get a leg up.
And grids are expanding to be several hundreds of kilometres wider than they currently are (maybe even a few thousand kilometres). On grid won't really change much for many people and the whinging will continue.
That may be true. It may also mean that the loss of players continues. Links would still be broken even if they were forced on the current grids. Honestly I have no idea what CCP was thinking the last time they "rebalanced" links a couple of years ago. Plenty of people told them they were still stupidly overpowered. I wonder if they have accepted that fact yet.
It appears they just suddenly realized the worm was overpowered (compared to most other pirate frigates) a few months ago even though people have been telling them its op for years.
I often just don't get how they do things and how long it takes them to recognize the obvious.
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2015.11.12 14:49:40 -
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Stalking Mantis wrote:Links exist because so many people need as much advantage as possible fighting. CCP knows this and recognizes a cash cow. Many /l33t pvp pilots have their own OGB links alt. That is one more subscription for CCP.
So if you think CCP will kill a cash cow...think again.
It is hard to deny this possibility. It is, of course, myopic to think making players pay more money in order to engage in the very tedious work of dragging alts around will really help make money in the long run. But if they really werent that short sited why did ccp not truly rebalance this horrible mechanic when they did a passover a couple of years ago? Why don't they do something now until they can be on grid and figure out something better?
I know lots of people blame their pet peeve for the decline of players. But as a player all I can do is voice my own opinion. And there is plenty of evidence that many many players feel the same way. Whether this is the sole reason for someone to quit or just a reason they are not so enthused with EVE, even though they still play it, we get all sorts. That is why this issue keeps coming up. Its hard to say no one really cares about this issue and then complain that the issue keeps being raised. How many players just left the game when they realized how broken small scale pvp had become in this game? I can't answer that but given the feedback from players this is a substantial problem with the game.
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2015.11.12 20:02:48 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Stalking Mantis wrote:Links exist because so many people need as much advantage as possible fighting. CCP knows this and recognizes a cash cow. Many /l33t pvp pilots have their own OGB links alt. That is one more subscription for CCP.
So if you think CCP will kill a cash cow...think again. I don't disagree with this. It's just a **** overall trend in gaming. Developers already realize people will pay $ for stupid cosmetic stuff, might aswell let them also pay for actual in-game advantages. Not really my idea of fun but some people seem to have no issue with it.
The other game I play online is chess. Often you need to pay a subscription to play online chess. I guess the same reasoning would go that if you don't pay an extra $15 a month you will have to play without one knight. I guess that would be a way to squeeze your customers, if people would actually put up with it. So far most chess websites have realized chess players won't put up with that. But then again chess players are notoriously cheap.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
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Cearain
Goose Swarm Coalition
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Posted - 2015.11.18 00:57:36 -
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Silverbackyererse wrote:I would like to advocate for the removal of off grid link whiners.It's old, it's boring, it's all been said before.
It's all been said before? Even this argument:
Silverbackyererse wrote: Maybe you could all toddle off to Minecraft, get a server together and make a new axe to grind.
Without fail, the worst eve posters always come out to defend this horrible mechanic.
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Cearain
Plus 10 NV
Cede Nullis
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Posted - 2015.12.30 17:50:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:IIRC the 'OGB is killing eve' was covered early on by cearain, along with everything else he doesnt like is also killing eve since his punisher/kestrel anti newbro solo gameplay is the only thing that will save eve..
Not surprisingly you ignore the actual data that shows removing ogb was one of the most popular proposals in assembly hall, that still hasn't been implemented. Yep just claim I'm the only one who doesn't like them.
I am not sure what is so anti-new bro about flying around solo in unboosted t1 frigates. But really I don't care why you think it is so don't bother to respond.
I don't know what age has to do with having a real life. I had a real life when I was younger too.
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Nah, its because of OGB that eve has terrible player retention. Most newbros quit before they even know what an OGB is, because of OGB?
Yep the ship wasn't even on grid so they probably have no idea why the other guy was so much faster and tankier.
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
The objective of CCP going forward is to try and change eve substantially enough to be more appealing and accommodating to new players without alienating their older established player base. They have not done a very good job so far and continue to take massive risks in the hope that they know what they are doing.
Unfortunately, i dont think that the core of EVE has a mass appeal. Its a game of great patience with great payoffs. Patience is not an attribute in abundance with modern gamers.
The way you play eve may require allot of patience and set up. But there is no reason some areas of eve shouldn't allow players to get some quality pvp without having to essentially take on a second job. Faction war/low sec would be the obvious choice. Not everyone in eve likes the idea of sitting for hours waiting for a deer to wander within range of his shotgun.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
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