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Comboduck TURN LEFT 32	Posted - 2011.12.12 12:03:00 - [1] - Quote It's been annoying forever now. A fair few from my corporation have petitioned it long ago and I've encouraged people we fight to do this also, but there has been no change. Sometimes when a gang jumps into another gang, the overview stops refreshing for some of the pilots. (seems to be a high percentage but I can't give any numbers). I mostly have experience with it happening to the party that jumps the gate and uncloaks, but it seems that the people who have already loaded the grid has the problem as well. Thus - Ranged does not update, ewar effects does not show up on overview etc. It's easily fixed by switching overview tabs, but by the time you have figured out that your overview is **** then you might be **** as well. Please ccp, fix this. Every nano pilot in eve is probably aware of this issue, so give this thread some love so that ccp understands that it needs fixing.

CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 25	Posted - 2011.12.12 12:07:00 - [2] - Quote Can I double check that it's not just freezing because you're holding down Ctrl waiting to lock someone? (Which does freeze the overview and is by design) CCP Goliath \| Engineering Team Lead

SerratedX Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate 0	Posted - 2011.12.12 12:07:00 - [3] - Quote This is seriously annoying, please fix this **. CCP Goliath wrote:** Can I double check that it's not just freezing because you're holding down Ctrl waiting to lock someone? (Which does freeze the overview and is by design) Yes. Sometimes the overview freezes when im NOT holding down control.
Comboduck TURN LEFT 32	Posted - 2011.12.12 12:12:00 - [4] - Quote CCP Goliath wrote: Can I double check that it's not just freezing because you're holding down Ctrl waiting to lock someone? (Which does freeze the overview and is by design) No, it's not. It happens even when I right click and lock people from the watchlist, and not use ctrl at all. And if there is a function that does that, it seems to be using the wrong hot key anyway.

CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 25	Posted - 2011.12.12 12:13:00 - [5] - Quote Thanks, we will look into it. CCP Goliath \| Engineering Team Lead

Sinnek CTRL-Q 6	Posted - 2011.12.12 12:16:00 - [6] - Quote biggest problem is when the overview doesn't update ranges in big fleet fights. frantically trying to lock someone who's apparently at 14km, no wait, he's at 90. that's why... awesome spaceship image
Comboduck TURN LEFT 32	Posted - 2011.12.12 12:18:00 - [7] - Quote CCP Goliath wrote: Thanks, we will look into it. Something I forgot to add, is that sometimes it seems that velocity/transversal velocity continues updating as it should while the ranges and ewar effects remain unupdated. I have a pretty decent showcase of this in fraps I could send to you if you need a visual example of the issue. And thanks for the fast response.
Neo Agricola BLACK-MARK 113	Posted - 2011.12.12 12:27:00 - [8] - Quote CCP Goliath wrote: Thanks, we will look into it. Hi, I don't want to be a ass but: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=476279#post476279 Someone posted that Bug in the Crucible 1.0.1 Issue Thread (#61 Posted: 2011.12.06 18:19) and now you are starting to look into it???? DISSONANCE is recruiting Members: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=70361#post70361 Black-Mark Alliance Recruitment: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6710
Solstice Project Cult of Personality 277	Posted - 2011.12.12 12:45:00 - [9] - Quote Maybe you should also look into not updating every row by itself, but instead the whole overview at once ... Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire
Amsterdam Conversations Cheesecake Starshine 65	Posted - 2011.12.12 12:48:00 - [10] - Quote CCP Goliath wrote: Can I double check that it's not just freezing because you're holding down Ctrl waiting to lock someone? (Which does freeze the overview and is by design) Yeah I also don't want to sound mean. But how in hell can you miss this? On the first roam we did after the patch, the overviews kept not updating for literally everyone in the fleets I've been in (~10 people), up until today. And those were just the people in my corp.
Comboduck TURN LEFT 32	Posted - 2011.12.12 12:53:00 - [11] - Quote Amsterdam Conversations wrote: CCP Goliath wrote: Can I double check that it's not just freezing because you're holding down Ctrl waiting to lock someone? (Which does freeze the overview and is by design) Yeah I also don't want to sound mean. But how in hell can you miss this? On the first roam we did after the patch, the overviews kept not updating for literally everyone in the fleets I've been in (~10 people), up until today. And those were just the people in my corp. I am not talking about a post patch issue. This has existed since long before crucible.
Dalikah TURN LEFT 0	Posted - 2011.12.12 13:05:00 - [12] - Quote Amsterdam Conversations wrote: CCP Goliath wrote: Can I double check that it's not just freezing because you're holding down Ctrl waiting to lock someone? (Which does freeze the overview and is by design) Yeah I also don't want to sound mean. But how in hell can you miss this? On the first roam we did after the patch, the overviews kept not updating for literally everyone in the fleets I've been in (~10 people), up until today. And those were just the people in my corp. It-¦s not even been the Crucible patch, most of us are experiencing this glitch for months already with different intensity, but it seems to become worse and more frequent patch after patch. For some, only a few pilots on overview freeze, for some switching overview tab (or [for some again] just clicking the same one) sustainably fixes it for the existing grid, sometimes it just keeps freezing after a few seconds again. This does not only happen in large and thus laggy fights, but in every scale. I actually experienced it in an empty system with npc-¦s on a gate, too. My own corp and many other people petitioned this problem (inclduing fraps) several times and months ago already, this really needs to be fixed asap.
Tajidan TURN LEFT 8	Posted - 2011.12.12 13:06:00 - [13] - Quote this is something i really can not understand. how this bug that affects the single most important window in eve can be overlooked? i had multiple nasty encounters with freezing overview, yesterday it took the cake though. Once the bug showed up the only sure way to reset it was to dock/undock to a point where i had to relog because even docking did not affect it. A quick workaround was to minimize/open the overview and usually it worked, but this time all it did was update it with the new numbers just to get stuck again.

CCP Habakuk C C P C C P Alliance 47	Posted - 2011.12.12 13:08:00 - [14] - Quote We are investigating this issue indeed since last week and a potential fix was done today (no idea yet, when it will reach Sisi or TQ). BUT: I am a bit concerned, that these issues might be caused by more than one bug - and we were not able to reproduce any of the issues. It would be awesome if you could send bugreports with detailed information about this. If possible include following info: * Are all items on the overview not updating or only some? * What values are not updating? Distance? Velocity? * Are the overview items being removed correctly, for example when warping away (except stations, ...)? * Log-files from logserver would be very helpful Comboduck wrote: I am not talking about a post patch issue. This has existed since long before crucible. It seems like there are indeed several issues around, old and new ones. Please send bugreports for all of them! CCP Habakuk \| EVE Quality Assurance

Faridi Dem Brothers of Destiny Phobia. 2	Posted - 2011.12.12 13:26:00 - [15] - Quote i approve, this is important!
Neo Agricola BLACK-MARK 113	Posted - 2011.12.12 13:29:00 - [16] - Quote CCP Habakuk wrote: We are investigating this issue indeed since last week and a potential fix was made today (no idea yet, when it will reach Sisi or TQ). Thx for that information. CCP Habakuk wrote: BUT: I am a bit concerned, that these issues might be caused by more than one bug - and we were not able to reproduce any of the issues. It would be awesome if you could send bugreports with detailed information about this. If possible include following info: Next time I'll run into that "feature" I'll start the logserver and create a Bugreport. DISSONANCE is recruiting Members: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=70361#post70361 Black-Mark Alliance Recruitment: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6710
fire elf Solar Storm The Forsaken. 1	Posted - 2011.12.12 13:30:00 - [17] - Quote Mhm This Bug has been around for abit, I have TRIED to replicate it without luck ... It seems only will work when you dont want to happend, last accourance of this bug for me was yesterday while fighting on a POS, and enemys kept warping back and forth... and then after we had bounced couple of times the Overview started to act up. Tornados was said to be at 20km was actually at 64km and interceptor was said to be 35 km away from was actually ontop of me and using scrambler (Scrambler didnt show up either) Only thing that I have found to fix this is to close the overview or get out of the system.
Daemon Lucifus TURN LEFT 0	Posted - 2011.12.12 13:54:00 - [18] - Quote I have noticed it happens when jumping through gates mostly its something to do with coming out of cloak. And no spamming tab in a fleet fight isn't fun at all please fix this
Hathrul DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Narwhals Ate My Duck 16	Posted - 2011.12.12 14:18:00 - [19] - Quote situation: i was at 70km from a gate in some 0sec system, with a drake on it. a fleet warped on top of my so i started to burn out. a dominix was at 14km from me on the overview, when i tried to point it it turned out to be over 90km away from me. it had warped to the gate while i was burning away from it CCP Habakuk wrote: * Are all items on the overview not updating or only some? in this case only 1 dominix. all other ships, wrecks, corpses and stargate were fine CCP Habakuk wrote: * What values are not updating? Distance? Velocity? only distance that i noticed. i was slightly busy though CCP Habakuk wrote: * Are the overview items being removed correctly, for example when warping away (except stations, ...)? yes, also switching overview tabs to one that didnt have any ships and then back fixed it CCP Habakuk wrote: * Log-files from logserver would be very helpful! cant help you there CCP Habakuk wrote: * Do you have any ideas, when this issue starts to happen? Jumping into another system? Warping to any objects? Having any special objects in the overview? the issue happened when some ships warped in, i was just floaty in space. it was a bit hectic though
ROXGenghis Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 8	Posted - 2011.12.12 14:24:00 - [20] - Quote I'll add another serious bug to this thread that's almost certainly related: ewar icons sometimes don't show up on the overview. For example, I'll wonder why my MWD won't work because the overview says my opponent doesn't have a scram on me. Well, it turns out he does have a scram on me, which eventually does show up on the overview....about 30 seconds late. I've also experienced the rest of the overview not updating, even in empty systems. If I warp to another gate, the overview still indicates that I'm next to the original gate. These are both very serious bugs and I've heard many of my corp mates complain about them as well. I'll try to capture some debug info next time they happen to me.
War Kitten Panda McLegion 353	Posted - 2011.12.12 14:25:00 - [21] - Quote The symptom I've noticed most frequently is a data row on the overview getting stuck and never being removed. This is from memory, but when traveling long distances, occasionally a ship will get stuck on overview and never disappear, even after multiple jumps the ship will continue to appear on the overview until I use a different tab to refresh it. I have seen this while traveling probably a couple dozen times, and yes, once after crucible's release. I have also seen the issue of certain overview rows ceasing to update in large fleet fights. The entire row stops updating properly iirc - range, velocity, even flashy-redbox aggression got stuck and continued to display after the fight. I recall asking the (friendly logi) pilot to kindly stop aggressing me after the fight and he had no idea what I was talking about and wasn't even targeting anyone and had no drones out. I changed overview tabs and it cleared up. This last example had happened months ago, but I recall those details pretty clearly. This is my signature.-á There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
Eshnala TURN LEFT 2	Posted - 2011.12.12 14:29:00 - [22] - Quote Having the same issues aswell, cant say anthing additionaly to what already been said, but its definetly there for a while (like pre incarna i think)
Rixiu North Star Networks The Kadeshi 33	Posted - 2011.12.12 14:44:00 - [23] - Quote From what I've seen there are a few different problems with the overview. First: This one is old but sometimes ships that are warping off or docking are still on the overview but "greyed out", clicking the tab will generally remove them. Related is when I warp from a gate with other ships on it those ships will stay on the overview when I warp off with huge distance values. This bug has come in different flavours over some time and I've seen some patch notes that were supposed to fix this but it's still present even if not so much of a problem nowdays. Second: The big one and most recent. The overview isn't refreshing and if it do the values are not reliable, may also be related to some d-sync issues. On one occasion our gang jump into a hostile gang, we burn away towards the sun out towards 50-60k and then all of a sudden everyone realize that the overview doesn't work properly, clicking on the tab may refresh it but I can't tell if it's reliable. But I can tell that it affected most of our gang so it's not something that affects most people on grid.
Altaieere Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 1	Posted - 2011.12.12 15:15:00 - [24] - Quote I too have faced the same problems mentioned by many here, especially the ewar not showing on u (guy has u scrammed) or showing late -Alta
ChildofDestruction Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 0	Posted - 2011.12.12 15:41:00 - [25] - Quote I have the same problem and create a petition on this case; The distances on overview are not being updates; during warp, during engagements under sub-light speed. It sometime recovers after dock and undock but create same problem after first gate. If you minimize and maximize the overview or switch to another overview tab, distances updated with that moments snap shot but stays frozen further more. Its is extremely annoying and preventing you to play by removing one of the most important piece of flight information. This issue needs to be urgently addressed .
Zowie Powers Hole in the wall 17	Posted - 2011.12.12 15:56:00 - [26] - Quote Updates cause server load and are being optimised away. Your combat timers don't update either anymore, until you mouse hover over them. Twice. Think of it this way, every cpu they take off you, they can give to a hisec incursion runner. And now you feel better already. See. Everybody wins.
Salpun Paramount Commerce 105	Posted - 2011.12.12 16:15:00 - [27] - Quote The F12 bug reporting feature is live on TQ it auto builds a log report as well as allows you to take picures. only problem is it freezes the client for like 30 seconds something that is bad for those that are in a active fight.
Comboduck TURN LEFT 32	Posted - 2011.12.13 09:01:00 - [28] - Quote Salpun wrote: The F12 bug reporting feature is live on TQ it auto builds a log report as well as allows you to take picures. only problem is it freezes the client for like 30 seconds something that is bad for those that are in a active fight. yeah, this is a problem
Tamiya Sarossa Hedion University Amarr Empire 117	Posted - 2011.12.13 09:18:00 - [29] - Quote Just adding my support to fixing this issue - I'll file a detailed bug report sometime but also frequently certain targest on the overview will fail to update, or they won't even appear when they're warping in. Ships showing at 30k on the overview when they're at 10k, for example. Tabbing always fixes the issue but you often don't notice until it's too late.
Raneru eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred 23	Posted - 2011.12.13 09:30:00 - [30] - Quote I've had this before, its as if the overview freeze state randomly sticks after you've been ctrl-locking targets for a while. Once you've noticed however, you can fix the overview by rolling the overview up and down again by double clicking its title bar.

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