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THXBYE
Elite War Squad
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Posted - 2011.12.12 13:42:00 -
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Why is that ships have different warp speeds, however in at 150 AU fleet warp, theres not 1 single ship traveling faster than the others??
Right, you forgot that.
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Neo Agricola
BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2011.12.12 13:43:00 -
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THXBYE wrote:Why is that ships have different warp speeds, however in at 150 AU fleet warp, theres not 1 single ship traveling faster than the others??
Right, you forgot that.
Because of the Fleetwarp. It forces all ships to the warpspeed of the slowest! Or: Works as desinged Or: Its a feature not a bug! DISSONANCE is recruiting Members: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=70361#post70361 Black-Mark Alliance Recruitment: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6710 |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
353
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Posted - 2011.12.12 13:44:00 -
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THXBYE wrote:Why is that ships have different warp speeds, however in at 150 AU fleet warp, theres not 1 single ship traveling faster than the others??
Right, you forgot that.
In fleet warps, everyone warps at the slowest ship's warp speed. It's by design.
If you want to warp at different speeds, warp separately. This is my signature.-á There are many others like it, but this one is mine. |

Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
108
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Posted - 2011.12.12 13:51:00 -
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THXBYE wrote:Why is that ships have different warp speeds, however in at 150 AU fleet warp, theres not 1 single ship traveling faster than the others??
Right, you forgot that.
because otherwise you idiots would land on field in small batches, that would sure make waiting enemies happy.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
113
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Posted - 2011.12.12 13:52:00 -
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posting in yet another thread of THXBYE ... an alt created for mostly unimportant threads. |

THXBYE
Elite War Squad
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Posted - 2011.12.12 13:52:00 -
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None of you little mommys answer was correct. Universal PvP System Mode: ..default.aspx?g=posts&t=38634 In Game Laws, Fines and Taxes: ..default.aspx?g=posts&t=36124 Stations and NPC Services Costs: ..default.aspx?g=posts&t=39038 |

Alexandros Balfros
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2011.12.12 14:01:00 -
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THXBYE wrote:None of you little mommys answer was correct.
Actually you'll find they were :) |

Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2011.12.12 14:02:00 -
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THXBYE wrote:None of you little mommys answer was correct.
then stop trolling if you think the answers are wrong (which they aren't). [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2024
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Posted - 2011.12.12 14:14:00 -
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THXBYE wrote:None of you little mommys answer was correct. Incorrect.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Lady Vella
Eternal Profiteers Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.12.12 14:20:00 -
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Right
Seem's to be a nerd rage post, posted by a 12yr old child. So ill speak slowly
Your name / You post topic / Your attitude
Are disgusting
In fleet warp as it has been SINCE 2003 you stupid little child, the fleet once alined warp's as slow as the slowest ship, each ship individually can obviously warp faster than others due to SIZE and MASS
Anyone who did primary school maths could have answered this post
You are nothing more than an attention seeking bratt who probably lives at home with his mother with no job, on state handouts, slamming a company that is worth millions because you are to stupid to come up with a decent game and the fact you are so ******** that you cant even understand basic mass + movements = mass peed which then squares into quantum co - which is what eve is based on
Effectivley shortend
= Your A Dumbass |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2024
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Posted - 2011.12.12 14:23:00 -
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Lady Vella wrote:= Your A Dumbass GǪand the hilarity when this happens is the only thing that beats the silliness of the OP.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.12 14:30:00 -
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Its Fleet Telemetry my dear Watson.
Fleet command sends out the comm singal for a fleet warp and the nav systems begin the handshaking and agreement to sychonize with the warp tunnel with the slowest ship as its most stable and least stressful to maintain in such larger formations where multiple gravity tunnels band over into each other increasing fleet wide stress. Now to push the slumps of newton compensators on the slowest ship to match the higher ships would result in... well it aint pretty. Sure there have been naval upgrades in the past but thats a hardware upgrade in the compensators as usual.
Eitehr way its been pertty standard naval conduct for over 300 years and military hardhacks have that drilled into every one of thier skulls as thier naval SOP.
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Lady Vella
Eternal Profiteers Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.12.12 14:32:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Lady Vella wrote:= Your A Dumbass GǪand the hilarity when this happens is the only thing that beats the silliness of the OP.
I love u 2 xD |

THXBYE
Elite War Squad
36
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Posted - 2011.12.12 14:34:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Its Fleet Telemetry my dear Watson.
Fleet command sends out the comm singal for a fleet warp and the nav systems begin the handshaking and agreement to sychonize with the warp tunnel with the slowest ship as its most stable and least stressful to maintain in such larger formations where multiple gravity tunnels band over into each other increasing fleet wide stress. Now to push the slumps of newton compensators on the slowest ship to match the higher ships would result in... well it aint pretty. Sure there have been naval upgrades in the past but thats a hardware upgrade in the compensators as usual.
Eitehr way its been pertty standard naval conduct for over 300 years and military hardhacks have that drilled into every one of thier skulls as thier naval SOP.
Very astute explanation, I thank you for that.
But now relies the wondering of if the warp speed can be controlled in someway, why not manually? Universal PvP System Mode: ..default.aspx?g=posts&t=38634 In Game Laws, Fines and Taxes: ..default.aspx?g=posts&t=36124 Stations and NPC Services Costs: ..default.aspx?g=posts&t=39038 |

Alexandros Balfros
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2011.12.12 14:41:00 -
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THXBYE wrote:Nova Fox wrote:Its Fleet Telemetry my dear Watson.
Fleet command sends out the comm singal for a fleet warp and the nav systems begin the handshaking and agreement to sychonize with the warp tunnel with the slowest ship as its most stable and least stressful to maintain in such larger formations where multiple gravity tunnels band over into each other increasing fleet wide stress. Now to push the slumps of newton compensators on the slowest ship to match the higher ships would result in... well it aint pretty. Sure there have been naval upgrades in the past but thats a hardware upgrade in the compensators as usual.
Eitehr way its been pertty standard naval conduct for over 300 years and military hardhacks have that drilled into every one of thier skulls as thier naval SOP. Very astute explanation, I thank you for that. But now relies the wondering of if the warp speed can be controlled in someway, why not manually?
Why would you want to manually warp slower if you're on your own, every ship obviously has an upper limit to warp speed so you wouldn't be able to increase your speed only slow it down :) |

Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
211
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Posted - 2011.12.12 15:10:00 -
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Alexandros Balfros wrote:Why would you want to manually warp slower if you're on your own, every ship obviously has an upper limit to warp speed so you wouldn't be able to increase your speed only slow it down :)
To be in warp, ergo unscannable, for a longer time inbetween bouncing safes. If you could warp at, say, 1,000 km/s, you could save your ship at any moment by just warping somewhere, as even a 1 AU long warp would give you half an hour to call for help and/or wait for the hostiles to leave and/or lose aggression and log off. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.12 15:21:00 -
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Its a subconcious routine, just like power to shields and your capacitor are, it just happens in an unthinking manner.
This one adavantage of a normal ship where the emotion and state of mind of the captain doesnt effect the ships performance severly. Where with pod pilots its everything how the ship behaves for the ship become the body of the pod pilot. Though a pod captain even in the most deranged state is ever more dangerous than the competent space captain.
Damage Registers as pain. Shield Boosting could be considered euphoric or unplesant, turning on a hardener could give that uncomfortable itchy feeling with no way to scratch it.
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Pok Nibin
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.12 15:48:00 -
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What we have here in this OP is an example (for your study) of what we're beginning to see in epidemic proportions across the vast landscape of Western Civilization - someone who thinks because they have a "brain" (using this term loosely) whatever that organ regurgitates can be assumed to be valid and logically irrefutable.
What makes this interesting if studying these creatures in the wild is how outraged they are when they flunk English, for instance. Their cry is similiar to, "I don't need no English in the real wurld!"
We would have one stuffed and mounted for museum viewing but there's some sort of legal technicality about bagging them. We're working on that.
Brought to you as a public service by People Against The Onslaught Of Stupidity. All rights reserved. Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.12 15:50:00 -
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Pok Nibin wrote:What we have here in this OP is an example (for your study) of what we're beginning to see in epidemic proportions across the vast landscape of Western Civilization - someone who thinks because they have a "brain" (using this term loosely) whatever that organ regurgitates can be assumed to be valid and logically irrefutable.
What makes this interesting if studying these creatures in the wild is how outraged they are when they flunk English, for instance. Their cry is similiar to, "I don't need no English in the real wurld!"
We would have one stuffed and mounted for museum viewing but there's some sort of legal technicality about bagging them. We're working on that.
Brought to you as a public service by People Against The Onslaught Of Stupidity. All rights reserved.
The more I know about humans the more I like animals instead.
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Opertone
Signal 7 The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.12 16:56:00 -
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Uhhm ships with extreme warp speeds accelerate and decelerate equally slow to real slow ship.
from 5km/s to full warp speed, this effect cancels the usefulness of fast warp rigs. It starts to count in 260 AU systems only. I used to have an inty with 19 au/sec warp speed, in smaller (32 AU) systems it was equally fast to a regular inty with 13.5 au/sec.
CCP make AU speed count towards acceleration and braking. Save us extra seconds of our short lived lives. |

Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
433
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Posted - 2011.12.12 17:07:00 -
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Elite War Squad, more like Complete Noob Suck. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ Those that can, do. Those that can't, cry on the forums. ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
527
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Posted - 2011.12.12 17:14:00 -
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in the RW when fleets move as one they ADVANCE at the speed of the slowest member the reality is that faster attack craft (DDs and Cruisers) will also orbit the main fleet providing eyes and screen to the slower capitals
so fleets warping should be at the slowest warp speed (a smart FC aligns the fleet first, then fleetwarps) IMO fleet warp in general is a logistical tool and less so a tactical tool, although at the squad level its better for tactical operations like SB runs The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

Hauling Hal
The Black Ops
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Posted - 2011.12.12 18:39:00 -
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Opertone wrote:Uhhm ships with extreme warp speeds accelerate and decelerate equally slow to real slow ship.
from 5km/s to full warp speed, this effect cancels the usefulness of fast warp rigs. It starts to count in 260 AU systems only. I used to have an inty with 19 au/sec warp speed, in smaller (32 AU) systems it was equally fast to a regular inty with 13.5 au/sec.
CCP make AU speed count towards acceleration and braking. Save us extra seconds of our short lived lives.
This is an urban myth, which I tested a few years ago.
1. The time taken to reach max warp speed is constant for a given ship.
2. If you increase the max warp speed with rigs, your acceleration increases accordingly, so both ships reach their max warp speeds at the same time.
3. Even if you don't reach max speed during the warp, you will always be travelling faster than a ship without the rigs, due to your faster acceleration. |

Danzig Brickpile
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.12.12 19:39:00 -
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op is tarded |

Opertone
Signal 7 The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.12 20:59:00 -
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Hauling Hal wrote:
2. If you increase the max warp speed with rigs, your acceleration increases accordingly, so both ships reach their max warp speeds at the same time.
I really want to reduce the time :D it takes to reach warp speed, say 2 seconds instead of 5. Cool and unexpected warp ins. |

Dirty Aideron
Red Baren Elite
0
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Posted - 2011.12.24 01:25:00 -
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Lady Vella wrote:Right
Seem's to be a nerd rage post, posted by a 12yr old child. So ill speak slowly
Your name / You post topic / Your attitude
Are disgusting
In fleet warp as it has been SINCE 2003 you stupid little child, the fleet once alined warp's as slow as the slowest ship, each ship individually can obviously warp faster than others due to SIZE and MASS
Anyone who did primary school maths could have answered this post
You are nothing more than an attention seeking bratt who probably lives at home with his mother with no job, on state handouts, slamming a company that is worth millions because you are to stupid to come up with a decent game and the fact you are so ******** that you cant even understand basic mass + movements = mass peed which then squares into quantum co - which is what eve is based on
Effectivley shortend
= Your A Dumbass
That response is OUTSTANDING....especially coming from an "experienced" gamer that rage quits corporations and can't seem to proof read their own mails....ROFL. You truly are a psycho and I wanna be like you when I grow up!!!
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Ris Dnalor
Fleet of Doom Ushra'Khan
106
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Posted - 2011.12.24 01:27:00 -
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Lady Vella wrote:Right
Seem's to be a nerd rage post, posted by a 12yr old child. So ill speak slowly
Your name / You post topic / Your attitude
Are disgusting
In fleet warp as it has been SINCE 2003 you stupid little child, the fleet once alined warp's as slow as the slowest ship, each ship individually can obviously warp faster than others due to SIZE and MASS
Anyone who did primary school maths could have answered this post
You are nothing more than an attention seeking bratt who probably lives at home with his mother with no job, on state handouts, slamming a company that is worth millions because you are to stupid to come up with a decent game and the fact you are so ******** that you cant even understand basic mass + movements = mass peed which then squares into quantum co - which is what eve is based on
Effectivley shortend
= Your A Dumbass
nono, back in 2003 every ship warped at the same speed. You're thinking of 2004 when different warp speeds were introduced.
But aside from that nit-pick, your post is valid...
Well, except back then it was Gang Warp, and not fleet warp because it was gangs and not fleets as it is today.

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