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Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.01.06 23:30:00 - [1] Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 06/01/2007 23:29:34 Quote: 2007.01.06 22:36 Namtz'aar k'in has declared war on Vigilia Valeria. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved. Our current declaration against PIE Inc. will also stand. We of Namtz'aar K'in would like to stress that we are in this conflict in order to defend the Matari areas, as our charter dictates. It is with great regret that we expand the hostilities, and it is our sincere wish we will not have to do it any further. However, after negotiation withour allies and evaluating the current situation, we cannot act otherwise. This is madness. This is madness that needs to stop. Amarr, stand down; stand down now. Elsebeth Rhiannon NMTZ, Junior Diplomat -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient now.
Meklon Caldari Minmatar United Freedom Front Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.01.06 23:39:00 - [2] It is greatly upsetting to see those of the Namtz'aar k'in been forced to declare war against these invading corporations and Alliances of the Amarrian Empire. Unfortunatly, I believe it is common knowledge that none of these aggressors will back off due to their blindly led belief that they are doing the right thing by their people. Whatever happens though Elsebeth, the Electus Matari have always been appreciative of the support Namtz'aar k'in have offered us and we will always give you any support which is needed. -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======-
Ikar Kaltin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.07 00:47:00 - [3] As I have previously pointed out this war is against NMTZ principals, and I have recieved no response to this. NMTZ are supporting a group who attacked Amarr shipping without proof, and were given time to produce this proof . They did not and were responded to as pirates/terrorists, be called what you will. It is also interesting NMTZ have not declared on CVA, but im sure you have good reasons for this.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.01.07 00:58:00 - [4] You have received repeated answers, pilot Kaltin. If something is still unclear, I suggest you either rephrase the questions here, or contact the primary diplomat Cz Ire, in space, for clarifications. We decided on the direction of our operations in negotiation with our allies, after giving a couple of days to the consideration of the strategic situation. We will keep re-evaluating the threats, both local and Amarr, and reacting as the situation warrants. -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient now.
Karn Mithralia Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.01.07 01:10:00 - [5] Take it to them Eslebeth. ----------------------------------------- Now recruiting.
Ikar Kaltin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.07 01:11:00 - [6] The questions I have asked, on the old communication and this new one I have not recieved answers to. 1) NMTZ claims by their own charter to condemn unprovoked attacks on civilians, yet this is what EM did. They claimed to have proof, PIE and other Amarr defence organisations patiently asked and waited for the proof to appear and it was not produced. This clearly is not a provoked response. 2)NMTZ claim that peace cannot be established while the guns are firing, yet it is you who escalated this conflict from a PIE V EM war into a Minmitar loyalist V Amarr loyalist war, against the above. It was the actions of you, NMTZ that unleashed attacks upon the Minmitar home systems, as im sure most of the conflict would otherwise have been fought in Sarum Prime where it was before you interfered, with PIE defending the Empire. You say you wish to discus negotiation when the paramilitaries are pulled back, but it is your fault they are there in the first place.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.01.07 01:15:00 - [7] Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 07/01/2007 01:14:50 I have replied those several times, pilot Kaltin. The answer remains the same: pull back the war declarations on Electus Matari, and we will talk. -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient now.
Ikar Kaltin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.07 01:17:00 - [8] Ah right, so the answer you give is stop the war and we can talk, while the question im asking is why you got involved in the war in the first place?
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.01.07 01:22:00 - [9] Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 07/01/2007 01:18:28 You know why we did, but I will answer for the benefit of the audience. PIE Inc's declaration on Electus Matari made us assume - as later turned out, correctly - that they would pursue this war in Republic space, and we wanted to be able to defend our allies and our space. Kaltin, I say for the last time: if you really want peace, who you need to talk to is PIE Inc, not NMTZ. Get them to pull back the war declaration, and we can talk. This is my final communication on this, unless new information or points of view surface. -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient now.
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.07 01:25:00 - [10] Untill EM agree to cease attacks on the empires assets i see no reason for that to happen. ----------------------- Auctoritan Syndicate Director
Ikar Kaltin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.07 01:27:00 - [11] Then I say good day to you, as we both know the conflict entered your home space only after a massive escelation of the war on both sides. Im sure PIE will be more thn happy to consider this war as soon as EMs proof of provoked violence on the Amarrian civilian transport comes to light, although I think we both know no such evidence exists. NMTZ if you believe in your principles, stick to them. Do not blame the Amarr for something you started, if you are going to support Minmitar piracy and terrorism, at least do it with a straigh face. You are here aggrevating the situation, and its is CVA who are coming to your home more often than not, yet I do not see a war decleration. Are you perhaps scared of War decing CVA? If you want to stick to your principles, and not support unprovoked violence upon citizens, you know where the door is. Otherwise, See you on the battlefield Terrorists. Ikar Kaltin
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.01.07 01:32:00 - [12] Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 07/01/2007 01:32:21 Originally by: Ikar Kaltin and its is CVA who are coming to your home more often than not, yet I do not see a war decleration. Are you perhaps scared of War decing CVA? Could you anyhow be more blatant in your baiting for a declaration, as I am sure there must be somewhere in space one recent RMS graduate who quite did not see it yet? If you want to fight us in our home space, how come are you not declaring a war on us? Scared is the word you used - pot calls kettle black maybe? No, as I said, we make our decisions based on negotiations with allies and assessment of the threat levels and strategies needed. Your wishes have no bearing on our course of action. We did not start this; PIE Inc did. -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient now.
Ikar Kaltin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.07 01:41:00 - [13] Not being a leadership for CVA i dont know whats coming, I just know you deserve to be war decced, if for nothing more than your joint efforts with EM to destory a CVA fleet at the start of the war. I find it amusing, and a perfect example, of why the minmitar need the enlightenment of the Amarr. Without out guidence you group together instinctivly, disregarding all you have built, all you claim to cling to, in order to support each other, and then spin the tales to make the Amarr the oppressor, the aggressor even when you are to blame yourselves. You have no regard for authority or practice, and you are an example to all non minmitar out there why your race need our guiding hand.
Popsikle Caffeine Commodities Company	Posted - 2007.01.07 02:15:00 - [14] Originally by: Ikar Kaltin Not being a leadership for CVA i dont know whats coming, I just know you deserve to be war decced, if for nothing more than your joint efforts with EM to destory a CVA fleet at the start of the war. I find it amusing, and a perfect example, of why the minmitar need the enlightenment of the Amarr. Without out guidence you group together instinctivly, disregarding all you have built, all you claim to cling to, in order to support each other, and then spin the tales to make the Amarr the oppressor, the aggressor even when you are to blame yourselves. You have no regard for authority or practice, and you are an example to all non minmitar out there why your race need our guiding hand. I cant wait to see your homeland burned. We dont need no water, let the Mutha F'er burn. __________________________________________ -= We Fly for our people =- -= I fly for Blood =-
Haverloth Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.01.07 02:38:00 - [15] The -VV- will not suffer attacks on Amarrian ships by Matari rebels and terrorists. If NMTZ wish to die by cleansing laser-fire then that is up to them. Our guns stand ready, as ever. Haverloth Decurio, 1st Praetorian Guard Proudly part of the Vigilia Valeria Alliance
Solusar Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.07 03:30:00 - [16] Originally by: Popsikle Originally by: Ikar Kaltin Not being a leadership for CVA i dont know whats coming, I just know you deserve to be war decced, if for nothing more than your joint efforts with EM to destory a CVA fleet at the start of the war. I find it amusing, and a perfect example, of why the minmitar need the enlightenment of the Amarr. Without out guidence you group together instinctivly, disregarding all you have built, all you claim to cling to, in order to support each other, and then spin the tales to make the Amarr the oppressor, the aggressor even when you are to blame yourselves. You have no regard for authority or practice, and you are an example to all non minmitar out there why your race need our guiding hand. I cant wait to see your homeland burned. We dont need no water, let the Mutha F'er burn. So can we expect a war declaration from you or is it all hot air as usual? No? Thought not.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.07 10:34:00 - [17] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon This is madness. This is madness that needs to stop. Amarr, stand down; stand down now. Indeed it is madness. However, we did not start this war. We are fighting to defend our way of life from those who would take it from us. We will talk about standing down just as soon as terrorist attacks on civilian transports cease. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Aegis Celestis Gallente Phoenix Wing Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.01.07 11:37:00 - [18] Edited by: Aegis Celestis on 07/01/2007 11:34:19 Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon This is madness. This is madness that needs to stop. Amarr, stand down; stand down now. Indeed it is madness. However, we did not start this war. We are fighting to defend our way of life from those who would take it from us. We will talk about standing down just as soon as terrorist attacks on civilian transports cease. VADM Blake, i request a formal statement regarding incursions of a hostile nature against the amarrian empire's economical or idealogical assets post-dating the origination of the current initiation of hostilities, not to include armed counter attacks in response to operations by amarran nationalist forces in republic space, to be sent via secure comms wire from your offices to mine, or over a public broadcast frequency as per your discretion. this request should not misconstrued as an attempt to ascertain operation status of PIE fleets, or otherwise the divulsion of crucial intelligence. LCDR Aegis Celestis
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.07 12:14:00 - [19] Originally by: Aegis Celestis Edited by: Aegis Celestis on 07/01/2007 11:34:19 Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon This is madness. This is madness that needs to stop. Amarr, stand down; stand down now. Indeed it is madness. However, we did not start this war. We are fighting to defend our way of life from those who would take it from us. We will talk about standing down just as soon as terrorist attacks on civilian transports cease. VADM Blake, i request a formal statement regarding incursions of a hostile nature against the amarrian empire's economical or idealogical assets post-dating the origination of the current initiation of hostilities, not to include armed counter attacks in response to operations by amarran nationalist forces in republic space, to be sent via secure comms wire from your offices to mine, or over a public broadcast frequency as per your discretion. The fact that attacks on the Empire's economic assets have dwindled since hostilities commenced merely indicates the successful nature of our campaign. However, it does not follow that the willingness of the insurgent forces to attack civilian shipping is any less now than it was before. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.07 14:35:00 - [20] Your support of rebels is noted. You will be counted among their number.
Jhonen Senraedi Minmatar Decimus Corp Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.01.07 15:13:00 - [21] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon This is madness. This is madness that needs to stop. Amarr, stand down; stand down now. Indeed it is madness. However, we did not start this war. We are fighting to defend our way of life from those who would take it from us. We will talk about standing down just as soon as terrorist attacks on civilian transports cease. A way of life that perpetuates the enslavement of Matari citizens....and where these so called innocent civillian transports are in fact slave carriers....or slave hunters. Your way of life is decadent,corrupt and ultimately will be the downfall of the Amarr empire..who are shackled to a past that brings misery and imprisonment of free people and free thinking.
Svetlana Scarlet Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.01.07 19:10:00 - [22] Meanwhile, this morning, Electus Matari forces escalated the war considerably by opening fire, without provocation, on Caldari Independent Navy Reserve ships attempting to contain the conflict. Our peacekeeping force deployed into the Federation in an attempt to force Phoenix Wing to withdraw from the conflict and remain neutral as we have, as well as force other Electus Matari forces to remain within the borders of the Republic and the Empire, came under fire this morning in the Aunia system. An Electus Matari Raven, as well as a Phoenix Wing Brutix and Caracal, opened fire on our forces, destroying LCDR Kadeshi's Lachesis recon vessel. What makes this worse is that the Electus Matari pilot leading the fleet in his Raven, was offered peaceful escort back to Republic territory yesterday by our forces, and was well aware of our standing rules of engagement. As a result, Reserve forces now have no choice but to shoot first when encountering Electus Matari vessels. It is regrettable that such actions must be taken, but Electus Matari has forced our hand. At this time, we will continue to stay out of the main engagement area in Molden Heath and other Republic regions to try to continue to contain the conflict, but if this sort of blatantly provocative activity continues, we may have no choice but to expand our area of operations. I hope that both sides will come to the peace table and resolve this before the situation spirals out of control, but considering the activities of the Minmatar and Gallente forces involved in this fight, I am pessimistic. -- CAPT Svetlana Scarlet CAIN Chief of Diplomatic Staff
Meklon Caldari Minmatar United Freedom Front Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.01.07 19:33:00 - [23] Unfortunatly Captain, we are well within our CONCORD given rights to shoot your vessels down as and when required to do so. If you revoke your war declaration that you currently have on the Electus Matari then your Corporations ships will no longer be classed as a threat to our forces. It is unfortunate that you took casualties, but seeing as your corporation is the aggressing body towards Electus Matari, it is only fitting that we consider every ship of the Caldari Independent Navy Reserve as a potential threat and as such will be dealt with accordingly until such time as you do revoke your war decleration. -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======-
Tharrn Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.01.07 19:35:00 - [24] Even the most misguided fools must see clearly now who's the aggressor in this conflict. Unconditional surrender, a vow not to ever attack Amarr property again, a treaty containing EM to 'Republic' territory, reparations to Amarr Human Resources, cutting all ties with the Brutor Freedom Front and the Defiants - did I miss any terms that might help to end this 'madness'? Now recruiting!
Meklon Caldari Minmatar United Freedom Front Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.01.07 19:40:00 - [25] Originally by: Tharrn Even the most misguided fools must see clearly now who's the aggressor in this conflict. Unconditional surrender, a vow not to ever attack Amarr property again, a treaty containing EM to 'Republic' territory, reparations to Amarr Human Resources, cutting all ties with the Brutor Freedom Front and the Defiants - did I miss any terms that might help to end this 'madness'? For the sake of sanity Tharrn... I am still wanting to see where the Electus has any ties at all to the Defiants. We have had zero contact with them since Muritor took off with Republic assets. As for your other 'requests', well, I shall pass them on to the council members of Electus Matari, but I give you no promises. Also, as for us been the aggressors? Hmm, CAIN declare war against us and we defend ourselves against them... that makes us aggressors? Tharrn... lay of the mindflood for a while.. -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======- -=======-
Lion El'Johnson Minmatar Lion's Emporium	Posted - 2007.01.07 21:11:00 - [26] Political intrigue at its finest. Of course the entire cluster know whom is to blame for the orignal hostilities. PIEinc. and any other amarr morons. The Amarr are a race of tyrants, war mongerers and slavers. A race of misguided loathsome fools who think they are superior to all others. What I don't understand is why CAIN has gotten involved. Yes we know of the relationship between the amarr and caldari but does it run so deep that they would get themselves involved in what is an internal Amarr/Minmatar matter. The whole deal about stopping Gallente Corporations getting involved is just a pathetic excuse. Due to current funds being put to better use elsewhere I am prevented from declaring war on CVA and their little band of merry men. However, my Pride are continuing their hits on CVA logistics lines in their own space and the lower security areas which they travel through. And yes CVA these are small hits due to your pilots screaming on the alliance channels to help and you sending the entire fleet. Then again these "small" hits are enough to move a little of your attention away from your unprovoked war effort on EM and other Matar Loyalist corporations. I would like to extend my support to all Matari corporations involved in this war and let you know that in due time Lion's Emporium will be escalating its war to include other hostile entities. CAIN I would ask that you withdraw your support for the amarr in this war. it shows that you are indeed in the amarr pockets and that you have very little honour. This fight does not involve the Caldari state in any way. Move your forces out of the area. I must however go against Elsebeth Rhiannon' statement for the amarr to stand down. I say Keep it up. It is the end of you and the Matari people would honestly like to see this. What I don't understand is why CVA haven't war decc'd us. I know we are but a small corp but you seem to have war decced everyone except us and we are actually in your space commiting so called "terrorist" acts against your logistics. Though on the other hand it could merely be that they are a little skittish about actually having us able to attack them in higher security areas. My Pride must indeed be upsetting your logistics people. Oh well. Proper regards, Lion El'Johnson, CEO Lion's Emporium Corporation. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND." ...Winston Churchill.
Van Cleef Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.01.07 21:43:00 - [27] CAIN has risked the lives of its pilots to stop a ever widening conflict. Our war declaration was against the Corporation Phoenix Wing, a Paramilitary Gallente corporation, who entered into the conflict against PIE. Phoenix later sought refuge in the Alliance of EM, and the war declaration as a matter of technicality was sent onto their new Alliance. CAIN has no qualms with the Minimatars, and we have no postion other than the States on the issue of Slavery. We simply wished to contain this horrible war from spreading into the other Empires. EM has now decided to use this CONCORD loop hole to attack our vessels. This is regretable. ------------------------------------------------ CEO and Admiral of the Fleet Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Serve the State Join Channel CAINCOM
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.07 22:13:00 - [28] Originally by: Lion El'Johnson What I don't understand is why CVA haven't war decc'd us. I know we are but a small corp but you seem to have war decced everyone except us and we are actually in your space commiting so called "terrorist" acts against your logistics. Point of fact: we have declared war on Electus Matari. Hardly "everyone except Lion's Emporium." Press these phantom logistics hits and perhaps you'll become worthy of our notice? I'm aware of one significant engagement between your "Pride" and CVA forces...and it has been well hashed out how that went. The CVA proved their supperiority over Lion's Emporium when we bled you out as a VF merc unit. If you take issue with that, then the onus is on you to declare against us now isn't it?
Lion El'Johnson Minmatar Lion's Emporium	Posted - 2007.01.08 15:48:00 - [29] Edited by: Lion El''Johnson on 08/01/2007 15:44:41 Originally by: Garreck The CVA proved their supperiority over Lion's Emporium when we bled you out as a VF merc unit. If you take issue with that, then the onus is on you to declare against us now isn't it? You bled us out? I beg to differ my friend. We were contracted for 2 weeks and fulfilled all our contractual duties to the complete satisfaction of our employer. Oh and yes our "phantom" logistics hits will continue. Proper Regards, Lion El'Johnson, CEO Lion's Emporium Corporation. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND." ...Winston Churchill.
Popsikle Caffeine Commodities Company	Posted - 2007.01.08 17:21:00 - [30] Originally by: Solusar Originally by: Popsikle I cant wait to see your homeland burned. We dont need no water, let the Mutha F'er burn. So can we expect a war declaration from you or is it all hot air as usual? No? Thought not. All things considered, we are a small corp with 4-5 active pilots, and there is no way we can finace a war against an alliance. We will cotinue to strike your allies down, however. Originally by: Rodj Blake The fact that attacks on the Empire's economic assets have dwindled since hostilities commenced merely indicates the successful nature of our campaign. However, it does not follow that the willingness of the insurgent forces to attack civilian shipping is any less now than it was before. Meanwhile, in realitiy while PIE pilots remain docked in Amarr, we Caffco Pilots liberated just under 1000 slaves aboard Empire convoy's yesterday alone. __________________________________________ -= We Fly for our people =- -= I fly for Blood =-

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