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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.01.07 23:51:00 -
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This Aneu guy has the biggest fan base EVER. -----------------
Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.01.08 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: Plim This Aneu guy has the biggest fan base EVER.
Maybe you should go recruit him then.
I don't think we could handle anymore groupies than we already have. -----------------
Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.01.09 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Arenis Xemdal
Originally by: Sextus Licinius
I still struggle to understand how can alliances accept a life of slavery from an idependent state. If you want a region just fight for it, don't slave for it thus accepting you are just a weaker muppet in the shadow of a powerfull alliance, ffs is like admitting you lost by default.
People posting rhetoric like the above is what ruins EVE.
Like calling yourselves anti-pirates by doing the same thing that pirates do. Or kind of like inviting corporations that wouldn't stand a chance on their own to live under your guidance and protection in Fountain.
The only difference is that you're not charging ISK for it. Here are the five obvious reasons why:
1. CELES cares about image and moral highground. It would be difficult for EVE to see you as the good guys playing the rebel-fights-empire game if you started a protection racket. You're forgoing income to look good; which is cute and everything. But there is no afterlife in EVE and darth isn't Mother Teresa, so the only reason the core CELES leadership is scared of looking evil is because they spent too much time denouncing it (m0o vs CELES anyone?). This is why CELES uses an alt corp to pirate innocents, right?
2. You can't sell what you don't own, and you don't own what you didn't take. The transfer of conquerable stations represents a tangible asset that doesn't depend on the hours of the day where BoB isn't the dominant presence. Its value also comes from the massive effort required in building/capturing it - as opposed to squatting where all others have squatted before and shouting "mine!". If you tried to sell NPC station access, people would laugh at you.
3. The lack of costs makes your deal sound more attractive than BoB's to some corporations. Even if you don't benefit economically, you benefit politically because you get to create doubts in peoples decision-making process. Only your residents are being promised protection that you can't provide as a corporation. Whenever BoB shows up to purge the region of unwanteds every couple months, the size of the EVE playerbase that becomes disillusioned with your war grows larger.
4. Mass recruiting and inflating your corp with mediocre pvpers would make your corp look less elite. When that happens you can't complain whenever BoB brings a big fleet, or insult the quality of BoB's memberbase. But remaining small leads to coverage problems, so inviting outsiders to be in Fountain Core on your behalf is the next best thing. They get to cover timezones and systems you can't, and if they die it doesn't matter because Celest will maintain a cleaner ratio on BoB. If they complain, you kindly remind them that you're not charging them to be your meatshields/pets/slaves and spare yourself any public embarassments.
5. Finally, if you started charging ISK you'd have a visible economy/industry (whatever you want to call it), that is highly vulnerable and out of your control. This makes it taboo among CELES leadership - kind of like running POS, using dreadnaughts, building ships, and doing all that good stuff which makes this game better than a mindless FPS - and consequently a game CELES doesn't know how to play.
So take your slave rhetoric and cram it. EVE doesn't need more people whining about BoB and pointing blame on everyone but themselves.
I can't believe you just accused someone of posting rhetoric, then went on to spend god knows how much of your time writing that complete nonsense.
It boggles the mind. Some serious laugh out loud moments in that tirade. -----------------
Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.01.09 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Arenis Xemdal CELES WANTS TO STEAL YOUR BODILY FLUIDS! WHY CANT PEOPLE SEE THE TRUTH WHHHYYY?>??>???
This is your next post? -----------------
Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.01.09 12:52:00 -
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I suppose you need to get some from somewhere, after you lost it all posting that baseless nonsense earlier. -----------------
Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.
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