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Halo Jones
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Posted - 2003.12.02 08:02:00 -
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Falzone, this is a matter for the Police, and if u wonder where your money has gone now the account has been transferred back to you, simply check your wallet and see which character it was transferred too.
so get revelant authorities involved if it was a stoeln credit card, and don't expect CCP to chase up a legal investigation that took place outside of the games environment.
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.12.02 08:02:00 -
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Quote: OMG dude don't you have any compassion?
Sorry, not an ounce of compassion over here. You already profited from other people's hard work in game, and now you expect us to feel sorry because you tried to profit from it in real life as well and got screwed over?
Give me a ******* break. Take your losses -- the people who you screwed over certainly had to take theirs.
Veruna Caseti Ishukone |

Monty Burns
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Posted - 2003.12.02 08:06:00 -
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Don't think its funny, in fact I (here we go, open the flood gates) think that Falzone has suffered bad. I see the destinction between real life and in game life. Game life I CAN steal/kill, real life i never would ... ever!
Sadly though, as so many have pointed out, 4500 for an account? Surley alarm bells would be ringing??? How are CCP to know that this was not all setup by yourself? There are just a few but BIG IF's.
Cya!
Darwin 4tw
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Gan Ning
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Posted - 2003.12.02 08:11:00 -
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Quote: for christs sake i know its the guy who frauded me ... CCP can check in their logs or my journal for that matter and see where the money was transferred to. And get me the account owners name...
Why should they to do that? So you can go round his house and hurt him then say CCP gave you his details so they are to blame for your insanity?
Go ahead and try and sue them, people like you contribute to what the world hates most about Americas legal system. Even if someone sneezes near you, people like you threaten to sue.
Don't blame CCP for your own stupidity. No ones gonna pay 4,500 for a game account, NO ONE. And if someone does, you have to be the dumbest person on earth to not to even contemplete that they could be using someone elses credit card.
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.12.02 08:11:00 -
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Quote: Don't think its funny, in fact I (here we go, open the flood gates) think that Falzone has suffered bad. I see the destinction between real life and in game life. Game life I CAN steal/kill, real life i never would ... ever!
Aww, poor Falzone has suffered badly. Wait, he hasn't lost anything that he didn't steal from other people, anyway. The fact that the thief used real life means to carry out the theft makes it illegal, but why the **** does that mean Falzone should be "hurt" any worse than the people he stole from were?
Real life or not, he hasn't lost anything he rightfully earned. I say go cry to someone who gives a ****.
Veruna Caseti Ishukone |

CubePusher
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Posted - 2003.12.02 08:19:00 -
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Quote: If that were the case, people would be able to buy in-game posessions from CCP.
shhhhh you fool, dont give them idea's. 
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feroci0us
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Posted - 2003.12.02 08:19:00 -
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id just like to toss in a HArr, teaches you a lesson mate. Falzone...this evemail spark your interests? 2003.11.11 00:42:00 i just read on the boards that you guys got ganked by some of your own members rofl.
haha, moron, god is teaching you a lesson the hard way. ** Proud Member of the Fountain Alliance **
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slothe
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Posted - 2003.12.02 08:37:00 -
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Quote: You think i think this is funny? no f**king way do i think its funny i am only coming here cause i thought some of you would care more than to flame me for my actions in game.
yes i think this is funny.....
believe in kharma??
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.12.02 08:42:00 -
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Quote: Ok first let me say that i'm sure many of you will think i got what i deserved for stealing from techell but I got robbed in real life. The guy who bought my account paid me with a stolen credit card via paypal then after he got access to my account he transferred all the isk to another account, the real owner of the credit card reversed the payment though paypal and gave me the account back with 0 isk. i sold it for 4500us and i end up with nothing ccp knows where the money was transferred and spent a week having gms discuss it only to tell me my isk will not be replaced. Am i surprised by this? of course not.
Even when the servers go down or such and people lose their ships they never replace it. This guy who screwed me is a real criminal and by not doing anything they are saying that if you commit real life theft that we won't do anything about it.
I am so ****ed about this you guys wouldn't even believe it. I'm talking to an attornet about filing a lawsuit against ccp and simon and schueter interactive. They basically say that since the theif took ingame items(the isk) that i violated the eula. The eula allows selling a account though which is what i did. They are just using the ingame item theft as a excuse ofr not helping me when they very easily could. its not my fault the guy stole ingame items i can't help that.
Here is the last email i recieved from the gms. I'm sure someone from ccp will soon delete this post so that none of you can read it or post to it. I will be posting it at all the other evesites and any mmorpg site that will take it.
Private communication between the Game Masters, Eve Team members, moderators and administrators of the forum and the forum users is not to be made public on these forums or by any other venue. You are not permitted to publicize any private correspondence (including petitions) received from any of the aforementioned.
GM Arkanon
Hahahahahaha
Ha.
Funny -------------------------------------------- Dead
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Ariell Lucinwind
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Posted - 2003.12.02 08:50:00 -
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Edited by: Ariell Lucinwind on 02/12/2003 08:53:44 I must say you get ten points for being a tool aww heck, hold on your not a tool, you're the entire freaking hardware store full of tools.
this...........
Quote: for christs sake i know its the guy who frauded me ... CCP can check in their logs or my journal for that matter and see where the money was transferred to. And get me the account owners name...
This is the worst thing CCP could do if they gave you their name. How do you know its not the persons best mates sisters account and you go knocking on their door and abuse them. False accusations don't settle well with anyone and can bite you back later or sooner for that matter. If I planned this, that money would of been bounced through 15 pilots hands before comming to me and I wouldnt be getting the lot, just a partial of it so it slowly gets eaten away and lost while on its way to me, then I get repaid later in smaller amounts.
You sir are as deep as a teaspoon and need to be unplugged and force fed some real world skills again.
<<No HuGz for U>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.12.02 09:00:00 -
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I'm confused. There seem to be two separate things going on here.
(1) Falzone sells his account, the transaction doesn't go through, for whatever reason. He's got his account back. What's the crime here?
(2) Falzone's lost a billion ISK from his character. So what? It wasn't yours. All virtual items, goods and money, insofar as they even exist at all, belong to CCP, not to the character who happens to have them in his hangar/wallet. So, again .. what's the crime here?
_______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age." |

Othnark
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Posted - 2003.12.02 09:03:00 -
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Quote:
Aww, poor Falzone has suffered badly. Wait, he hasn't lost anything that he didn't steal from other people, anyway. The fact that the thief used real life means to carry out the theft makes it illegal, but why the **** does that mean Falzone should be "hurt" any worse than the people he stole from were?
Real life or not, he hasn't lost anything he rightfully earned. I say go cry to someone who gives a ****.
Im sorry Veruna, but there is a distinction here. Corp theft is part of the game. Corp theft is sanctioned and allowable by CCP. Whats more, Falzone isnt an alt. He is a main, he took responsability for his actions and didnt delete his character. What more do you want?
He did rightfully earn the things he stole all within the confines of the game. You may not like it, but thems the facts. Credit card fraud, on the otherhand is illegal in most countries around the world. -Othnark
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.12.02 09:05:00 -
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Falzone, let it go Really, the isk is not real money, it got the feelings its real because you know what is worth in dollars. But you cant go out and buy stuff with it outside EvE. The feeling you got scamed is not real, for it happend with unreal monopoly money so to speak. Just like Techell only got ripped off by you ingame, and not out of game.
You can only file a complaint with ebay, but I doubt they can do anything against it since it was all ingame ( and I dont see ebay refunding lost isk).
Better luck selling your account next time, say hello to the other SPVD.
This is not a hijack
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.12.02 09:11:00 -
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Karma
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Nightfang
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Posted - 2003.12.02 09:30:00 -
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Babies cry when being cheated in a game.
Falzones go run sueing the manufacturer of the game.
Some of us just take the game for what it is...
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.12.02 09:31:00 -
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Othnark - you're right and wrong.
Theft is a part of the game, but corp theft is ******* low, no matter what. And for Falzone to get ripped in RL is, for me, hyserically funny.
I get ripped off all the time in RL - everytime I go shopping, by the bank everytime they send me a statement, by my loan company, etc etc. Thats life.
Falzone, you're a whelp and a hypocrit. People worked hard in game for that stuff you ripped off. Its stinks when you get robbed doesn't it? Deal with it.
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Elvandar
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Posted - 2003.12.02 09:35:00 -
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Thing is why was you selling your account in the first place? The way i see it, is you got done just like you did Techell. CCP are right they should'nt give you anything cause you sold via Ebay, as soon as you did that it was out of CCP's hands.
Live with it or go find some other game to play!
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2003.12.02 09:36:00 -
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Hey Falzone, i think you are scum. Selling an account is so lame. I hope you never see a dime, loser. -------
K. Raven
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2003.12.02 09:37:00 -
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now your greed and selfishness has bitten you in the ass.
couldn't have happened to a nicer person. ---
Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk |

Archemedes
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Posted - 2003.12.02 09:54:00 -
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Wow... can't believe this isn't locked yet...
I have to agree that this is a matter for the cops. Whoever bought your account is guilty of credit card fraud against the card's rightful owner and possibly theft by deception or at least breach of contract with respect to you. If you're serious about this contact a lawyer... since Ebay bids are a binding legal contract you might even be able to sue for the $4500 (assuming the police find the thief). If you live in the US (where you can sue anyone over anything at any time) you might even win!
On the other hand, I have to agree with the majority opinion on a couple things...
1) $4500 for an account??? No way I'd believe THAT until the money was in my hand.
2) Karma is a ***** somethimes... 
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Fuse
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Posted - 2003.12.02 10:09:00 -
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Edited by: Fuse on 02/12/2003 10:15:24 I don't believe anything a guy like you says. You may have made the whole thing up who knows who cares. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |

Leo Graf
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Posted - 2003.12.02 10:13:00 -
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As I responded to you in your recent contact to us... I have submitted this horrowing tale of Karma to Slashdot. One can only hope that they too see the humour of this situation.
_____________________________________________ EVE GUARDIAN Chief Editor EMAIL - [email protected] EVE-MAIL - Leo Graf
Independance, Truth, Integrity; We are EVE GUARDIAN |

DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.12.02 10:17:00 -
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Roflol! muhaha, Justice does exist!
You think there is any diffrence between IRL scamming and ingame? Do you think Kel'dra and Datsevlu felt better than you do right now?
I have NO compassion with you, you got what you deserved.
Other than that this was a transaction outside of EvE, do you sue an opel dealer when you get ripped of by a second hand dealer?
I have seen alot of nutters, but your the king of em all. Common sense? __________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |

Siobhan
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Posted - 2003.12.02 10:17:00 -
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Edited by: Siobhan on 02/12/2003 10:18:04
Quote: this is a true story you guys are a**holes.
Just a quick point...
HARDIN gets BANNED from forums for 'flaming' after making a FUNNY animation about Tank CEO and this guys is still posting and this troll thread is still open.
Can anyone say Mod inconsistency?
--------- PIE Inc Avenging Angel www.pie-online.co.uk --------- |

MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.12.02 10:18:00 -
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You know... sometimes I sit in front of my screen asking myself whether I¦m kind of a freak or not for sometimes playing so long and such.
Threads like this one instantly make me realise that I¦m far from being a freak 
People getting all crazy over their accounts 'n stuff, robbing each other, filing lawsuits, threatening IRL, waking up deep at night to switch skilltraining, betraying fellow players, destroying corporations, doctoring screenshots, lying, faking convos,...
There are people around here who really do surprise me 
Mai's Idealog |

PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.12.02 10:26:00 -
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So Falzone rips off his corp to make big bucks in RL, and then complains when it doesn't work.
Cry me a river, you fairy.
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Orestes
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Posted - 2003.12.02 10:27:00 -
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Discussing Ebay and it's auctions is not allowed on the forums.
Quote: You may not post advertisements. Posts discussing or linking to online auction sites or the sale of in-game goods or services for real money are strictly prohibited.
Also, there's a rule against flaming..
I'm locking this.
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