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Falzone	Posted - 2003.12.02 06:22:00 - [1] Ok first let me say that i'm sure many of you will think i got what i deserved for stealing from techell but I got robbed in real life. The guy who bought my account paid me with a stolen credit card via paypal then after he got access to my account he transferred all the isk to another account, the real owner of the credit card reversed the payment though paypal and gave me the account back with 0 isk. i sold it for 4500us and i end up with nothing ccp knows where the money was transferred and spent a week having gms discuss it only to tell me my isk will not be replaced. Am i surprised by this? of course not. Even when the servers go down or such and people lose their ships they never replace it. This guy who screwed me is a real criminal and by not doing anything they are saying that if you commit real life theft that we won't do anything about it. I am so ****ed about this you guys wouldn't even believe it. I'm talking to an attornet about filing a lawsuit against ccp and simon and schueter interactive. They basically say that since the theif took ingame items(the isk) that i violated the eula. The eula allows selling a account though which is what i did. They are just using the ingame item theft as a excuse ofr not helping me when they very easily could. its not my fault the guy stole ingame items i can't help that. Here is the last email i recieved from the gms. I'm sure someone from ccp will soon delete this post so that none of you can read it or post to it. I will be posting it at all the other evesites and any mmorpg site that will take it. Private communication between the Game Masters, Eve Team members, moderators and administrators of the forum and the forum users is not to be made public on these forums or by any other venue. You are not permitted to publicize any private correspondence (including petitions) received from any of the aforementioned. GM Arkanon
Alax Intak	Posted - 2003.12.02 06:27:00 - [2] I don't post here very often, but CCP and Polaris are correct in their response. You took the risk and violated the EULA. Anything that happens beyond that is your responsibility. It amazes me that people like you whine about something that goes wrong and immediately threaten to sue. Get a life.
Arkaine	Posted - 2003.12.02 06:28:00 - [3] So you steal from people who've busted their humps ingame for months. You, a moron, actually believe somone would pay 4500 for an online game account. You get robbed, just like you did in game. How exactly is CCP responsible for your stupidity? The problem isnt with the game, chimp, it's with the user.
Jash Illian	Posted - 2003.12.02 06:35:00 - [4] Edited by: Jash Illian on 02/12/2003 06:36:28 Quote: I don't post here very often, but CCP and Polaris are correct in their response. You took the risk and violated the EULA. Anything that happens beyond that is your responsibility. It amazes me that people like you whine about something that goes wrong and immediately threaten to sue. Get a life. Actually it's not against the EULA. The EULA specifically describes the procedures to transfer an account to another player. However, CCP isn't under any obligation to assist in what's essentially a fraud investigation unless ordered so by a legal authority. Given the type of case and the fraud involved, I'd not bet on that happening short of the real CC owner pursuing the case with the issuing bank. And Falzone...you have to be a real glutton for punishment to bring this up here. I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Arkaine	Posted - 2003.12.02 06:40:00 - [5] Edited by: Arkaine on 02/12/2003 06:46:21 Edited by: Arkaine on 02/12/2003 06:45:06 Quote: Ok first let me say that i'm sure many of you will think i got what i deserved for stealing from techell but I got robbed in real life. The guy who bought my account paid me with a stolen credit card via paypal then after he got access to my account he transferred all the isk to another account, the real owner of the credit card reversed the payment though paypal and gave me the account back with 0 isk. i sold it for 4500us and i end up with nothing ccp knows where the money was transferred and spent a week having gms discuss it only to tell me my isk will not be replaced. Am i surprised by this? of course not. One question: How is it the real owner of the credit card gave you the account info back? I mean... unless he was talking with the supposid "thief" (no, this is not refering to you for once) how is it the owner knew the account info and gave it back to you?
Falzone	Posted - 2003.12.02 06:50:00 - [6] I meant that the guy who stole the isk and paid me with the stolen credit card after he took the isk sent me and email with the account info and password he had changed it to. And for you guys who think this is funny it is not. the isk was 1.05 bil. I stole ships from a corp ingame which is allowed. I got robbed in reallife don't you see the distinction? I'm sorry if you don't and if you think what i did was wrong and that ccp doesn't have any responibility to help me think what you want but they know what happened and just rufuse to help.
akemi	Posted - 2003.12.02 06:51:00 - [7] Private communication between the Game Masters, Eve Team members, moderators and administrators of the forum and the forum users is not to be made public on these forums or by any other venue. You are not permitted to publicize any private correspondence (including petitions) received from any of the aforementioned. GM Arkanon If i'm not mistaken you gave the guy the account info under the pretense that he was paying you for the time taken to aquire the account and it's contents. Seeing as how all ingame contents remain the property of CCP/EVE you can't sell those only the time taken to aquire the objects. Basically, Your a tool for thinking someone would pay that much money for an account, and if you really wanna get your "time" back then you need to sue the parties that were invovled in the credit card fraud for whatever monetary value you feel your time is worth. ie. if they stole 100 million isk from you and you spent about two weeks (or however long it took you to aquire that money) then you can sue the party that committed the credit card fraud and stole your 'property' for the real monetary value. But as far as CCP replacing anything, they don't have to, cause you gave the guy access to your account. Your issuse isn't with CCP it's with whoever frauded you. FFXI ROXORZ UR BOXORZ http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?24650
Jash Illian	Posted - 2003.12.02 06:56:00 - [8] Quote: I meant that the guy who stole the isk and paid me with the stolen credit card after he took the isk sent me and email with the account info and password he had changed it to. And for you guys who think this is funny it is not. the isk was 1.05 bil. I stole ships from a corp ingame which is allowed. I got robbed in reallife don't you see the distinction? I'm sorry if you don't and if you think what i did was wrong and that ccp doesn't have any responibility to help me think what you want but they know what happened and just rufuse to help. No, Falzone. They're not obligated to help. And expose themselves to liability if they do try to assist, as they cannot verify what took place outside their servers. I don't speak for CCP often, but they're entirely correct in this situation. Touching it would be like dancing on the 3rd rail in Grand Central Station. I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Falzone	Posted - 2003.12.02 06:57:00 - [9] for christs sake i know its the guy who frauded me but how the hell do i find out who he really is? CCP can check in their logs or my journal for that matter and see where the money was transferred to. And get me the account owners name but will they nope i'm sure they won't. Its a press of a button to get the isk back how hard is that . They may not be obligated but comon we pay to run this game all i'm asking for is a little customer support.
Jash Illian	Posted - 2003.12.02 06:59:00 - [10] Quote: for christs sake i know its the guy who frauded me but how the hell do i find out who he really is? CCP can check in their logs or my journal for that matter and see where the money was transferred to. And get me the account owners name but will they nope i'm sure they won't. Its a press of a button to get the isk back how hard is that . They may not be obligated but comon we pay to run this game all i'm asking for is a little customer support. Pursue it through Paypal/Ebay. They're the only ones obligated to assist you as the fraud occured on their servers. I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
TMX	Posted - 2003.12.02 06:59:00 - [11] OWNED! ------------------------------------------- Live fast die young, clone and take revenge!
Falzone	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:11:00 - [12] Jash Dude can you read ? Quote: They may not be obligated but comon we pay to run this game all i'm asking for is a little customer support. i said their not obligated but that doesn't mean they still couldn't help.
Falzone	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:13:00 - [13] OMG dude don't you have any compassion?
Arkaine	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:14:00 - [14] Quote: I'm sorry if you don't and if you think what i did was wrong and that ccp doesn't have any responsibility to help me think what you want but they know what happened and just refuse to help. Shoulda taken that ISK and bought some writing lessons... I understand the distinction. I also understand they did nothing wrong. Here's an analogy: You're a dealership which has just recently acquired a shipment of stolen cars from a legitimate dealership. You sell the cars to a shady individual who gives you a check worth more than any idiot would pay and any moron could hope to receive for it (see any parallels yet genius?). The check bounces. You eventually find the cars- all of which were used for luxury car demolition derby and are now all complelty useless, even for scrap. You can't possibly be expected to find the shady character who defrauded you. Now, because of this loss, you sue GM, Ford, BMW, Mercedes, Toyota and such for your loss. How does your loss out of stupidity become their responsibility to fix? Yeah, the companies could fix it, but why should they? What was their mistake?
Arkaine	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:15:00 - [15] Quote: OMG dude don't you have any compassion? OMFG/LMFAO Tell me, you are kidding. You sir, are about to be ripped like no one else on this board has ever experienced.
Othnark	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:16:00 - [16] Oh come on man! Havent you seen the millions of auctions for online items? They only give you the items once the cash has been cleared with no possibility of reversal. I feel for you, I really do, perhaps you can pursue it through paypal and ebay and I hope you nail the SOB. But perhaps you can just chalk it up to easy come easy go? Thats what I always do at the poker table when a bad beat rears its ugly head. -Othnark
Halseth Durn	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:19:00 - [17] LOL! you are a thief, and you are crying foul?!?! Your "story" is full of so many holes, I wont even mention them. How were you ripped off in RL? Did you give him money? Does he have your credit card number? Where is your missing cash? thought so. You didn't get payment for things you didn't earn. This is your Karma and justice has been served, so shut your yapper. Corp thieves suck. P.S. I hope it was some Techell miner who did this to you. I only hope he shares it with his corpmates. P.P.S. This is a game forum. Not a RL forum. Take your problems outside. Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS
Cymoril	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:29:00 - [18] This whole story reaks of fraud. For some reason, Falzone thinks coming on here with some rediculous story if funny or something. Either that or he plans on continueing to play, and if anyone questions him about his original theft, he can just say it is all gone, so he should be forgiven. He definately has some alterior motive for this post. His story doesn't even make any sense.
Falzone	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:33:00 - [19] this is a true story you guys are a**holes.
Falzone	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:34:00 - [20] You think i think this is funny? no f**king way do i think its funny i am only coming here cause i thought some of you would care more than to flame me for my actions in game.
Fencer	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:42:00 - [21] Falzone is just lucky he has not been banned for breaking EULA.. but then again after his post here, he may still be. you are not supposed to publish contents of conversations with GM's...unless I am mistake about that last 1. then again maybe his days are numbered. and deffinitly his karma is catching up to him My alt hates me, I don't know why. he won't even talk to me anymore
javer	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:42:00 - [22] do by others , as u want to be done by them. well earnt and well placed punishment cya in the depths of depravity -------------------------------------------- Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their Level and beat you with experience.
Slithereen	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:44:00 - [23] "Care?" You're asking the "carebears" you ripped off and podded to finally give some "caring"? LOL. A delicious irony. Also CCP is legally right. Post it in other MMOG sites as if they will care---they won't and they will only see lower of you. _______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
Jexter	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:48:00 - [24] Quote: OMG dude don't you have any compassion? No.
Rebellion	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:49:00 - [25] Sorry to hear about this. You had been robbed. Yes it is wrong. Yes you need to go after the one that fooled you. However... CCP is in no way involved in this. This was entirely your deal and you made a mistake. You are fortunate that all you lost was ingame assets and not real ones. Face it, you owned yourself. The GM's deliberated well and came up with the correct decision. They cannot be held responsible for your failings. If you get a proper warrant from a judge, they will probably be glad to help you. However, odds are that your plea will be judged as frivolous and an abuse of the justice system. The justice system is here to punish criminals, not prevent people from doing stupid things. You have been paying monthly to play the game and use the servers. CCP has delivered on their end by letting you play. Face it, the monthly fee you pay is not payment for the in-game properties that you acquire. If that were the case, people would be able to buy in-game posessions from CCP. The only way that CCP would have helped you would be as an act of good faith. But they are under no obligation to do so. Threatening with lawsuits also basically nullifies this possibility that they would aid you fix the mess you created out of pity. Furthermore, it is even more illegal to reveal the identity of the account holder without their consent. So they might not even do this out of goodwill because if they did, then they would be committing a crime. That is why the only hope for you is to convince a judge that a crime had been committed. Being realistic, I think you won't ever solve this so just deal with it and learn from it. If you sue anyone because of time lost playing Eve. Assuming against all logic that the suit succeeds, you will just be setting precedent for the other people you robbed from to sue you in turn. So you'll be owning yourself again. As far as I'm concerned you should have learned from your own actions. You know how easy it is to cheat people who trust you, you should have taken better precautions. I'd nominate you for a Darwin Award but, thankfully, no life was in danger.
Rebellion	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:50:00 - [26] Oh and. You weren't really robbed $4500. It's debatable whether your account would be worth that much anyway.
Kalki Nibiru	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:51:00 - [27] Falzone, although I despise you for your corporate theft, I do feel for your ill begotten losses. The fact of this matter however is that CCP CANNOT help you as Jash has said, what they would esentially be doing is taking your word for the matter, after all, how can they know you didnt organize this and actually pocket some money? They cant. You need to contact the Credit Card Owner and have him work with you and Ebay and Pay-Pal to get this guy for fraud, depending on the laws in their country they could be charged with grand theft or petty theft, as well as fraud, wire-fraud and many other laws. With the organized help of owner of the credit card, Ebay, Pay-Pal and local (your) and distant (where the offender lives) law enforcment you should be able to get your stuff back because since you are able to put a value on your items, CCP will under instruction of the police have to trace the items back and return them (provided you havent violated the EULA in anyway). I hope you get your stuff back (and then have it legitimately taken back in game by pirates or something). Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate . <Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market? <Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with
Arkaine	Posted - 2003.12.02 07:52:00 - [28] Quote: this is a true story you guys are a*holes. But we feel bad giggle* honestly! I'm really, snicker serious! Quote: You think i think this is funny? no f**king way do i think its funny i am only coming here cause i thought some of you would care more than to flame me for my actions in game. No i dont think it's funny. I think it's F'ING HILLARIOUS. I'm sure you dont think it's funny. I'm also sure that 90% of EVE players will find it very entertaining to hear of your poor choice in business dealings. A corp trusted you. You F'd em. You trusted a thief. He F'd you. No bugs were involved. No exploits were used. Take that teary-eyed puffy red face and go cry to paypal.
Ajzhyn Raef	Posted - 2003.12.02 08:00:00 - [29] I feel your Falzone. Well some of it really. No, really. You stole those ships fair and square. Nevermind that somebody worked their butt off to manufacture it all, thats besides the point. I think you should get your 1.05 billion isk and your $4500 besides. You deserve it dude. Really. PS: HahHahF******Hah! -=Ajzhyn Raef, Runner of Missions, Helper of n00bs=- -=New Folks Feel Free to Convo Me In-Game=-
DrEvil	Posted - 2003.12.02 08:01:00 - [30] Easy come, easy go. 1. You didn't get robbed in RL, you got robbed in Virtual. The fact that you were trying to convert a virtual item into a real life item should clearly demonstrate this. You lost nothing that was yours. 2. You got your account back. You demonstrated that you intended to sell it, and now you ask CCP to restock it so you could resell it again. Do you see a problem here? 3. The fault lies with you and Paypal. One, seller beware and two, Paypal is so open for abuse. You thought you could cash in, and it didn't work. Better luck next time.
Halo Jones	Posted - 2003.12.02 08:02:00 - [31] Falzone, this is a matter for the Police, and if u wonder where your money has gone now the account has been transferred back to you, simply check your wallet and see which character it was transferred too. so get revelant authorities involved if it was a stoeln credit card, and don't expect CCP to chase up a legal investigation that took place outside of the games environment. Oberon Incorporated.
Veruna Caseti	Posted - 2003.12.02 08:02:00 - [32] Quote: OMG dude don't you have any compassion? Sorry, not an ounce of compassion over here. You already profited from other people's hard work in game, and now you expect us to feel sorry because you tried to profit from it in real life as well and got screwed over? Give me a ******* break. Take your losses -- the people who you screwed over certainly had to take theirs. Veruna Caseti Ishukone
Monty Burns	Posted - 2003.12.02 08:06:00 - [33] Don't think its funny, in fact I (here we go, open the flood gates) think that Falzone has suffered bad. I see the destinction between real life and in game life. Game life I CAN steal/kill, real life i never would ... ever! Sadly though, as so many have pointed out, 4500 for an account? Surley alarm bells would be ringing??? How are CCP to know that this was not all setup by yourself? There are just a few but BIG IF's. Cya! Darwin 4tw
Gan Ning	Posted - 2003.12.02 08:11:00 - [34] Quote: for christs sake i know its the guy who frauded me ... CCP can check in their logs or my journal for that matter and see where the money was transferred to. And get me the account owners name... Why should they to do that? So you can go round his house and hurt him then say CCP gave you his details so they are to blame for your insanity? Go ahead and try and sue them, people like you contribute to what the world hates most about Americas legal system. Even if someone sneezes near you, people like you threaten to sue. Don't blame CCP for your own stupidity. No ones gonna pay 4,500 for a game account, NO ONE. And if someone does, you have to be the dumbest person on earth to not to even contemplete that they could be using someone elses credit card.
Veruna Caseti	Posted - 2003.12.02 08:11:00 - [35] Quote: Don't think its funny, in fact I (here we go, open the flood gates) think that Falzone has suffered bad. I see the destinction between real life and in game life. Game life I CAN steal/kill, real life i never would ... ever! Aww, poor Falzone has suffered badly. Wait, he hasn't lost anything that he didn't steal from other people, anyway. The fact that the thief used real life means to carry out the theft makes it illegal, but why the ** does that mean Falzone should be "hurt" any worse than the people he stole from were? Real life or not, he hasn't lost anything he rightfully earned. I say go cry to someone who gives a *. Veruna Caseti* Ishukone
CubePusher	Posted - 2003.12.02 08:19:00 - [36] Quote: If that were the case, people would be able to buy in-game posessions from CCP. shhhhh you fool, dont give them idea's.
feroci0us	Posted - 2003.12.02 08:19:00 - [37] id just like to toss in a HArr, teaches you a lesson mate. Falzone...this evemail spark your interests? 2003.11.11 00:42:00 i just read on the boards that you guys got ganked by some of your own members rofl. haha, moron, god is teaching you a lesson the hard way. Proud Member of the Fountain Alliance
slothe	Posted - 2003.12.02 08:37:00 - [38] Quote: You think i think this is funny? no f**king way do i think its funny i am only coming here cause i thought some of you would care more than to flame me for my actions in game. yes i think this is funny..... believe in kharma?? Say hello on our forum @www.aserea.com or join our public channel ingame "MLM Public" http://www.khainestar.com/eve
Miso	Posted - 2003.12.02 08:42:00 - [39] Quote: Ok first let me say that i'm sure many of you will think i got what i deserved for stealing from techell but I got robbed in real life. The guy who bought my account paid me with a stolen credit card via paypal then after he got access to my account he transferred all the isk to another account, the real owner of the credit card reversed the payment though paypal and gave me the account back with 0 isk. i sold it for 4500us and i end up with nothing ccp knows where the money was transferred and spent a week having gms discuss it only to tell me my isk will not be replaced. Am i surprised by this? of course not. Even when the servers go down or such and people lose their ships they never replace it. This guy who screwed me is a real criminal and by not doing anything they are saying that if you commit real life theft that we won't do anything about it. I am so ****ed about this you guys wouldn't even believe it. I'm talking to an attornet about filing a lawsuit against ccp and simon and schueter interactive. They basically say that since the theif took ingame items(the isk) that i violated the eula. The eula allows selling a account though which is what i did. They are just using the ingame item theft as a excuse ofr not helping me when they very easily could. its not my fault the guy stole ingame items i can't help that. Here is the last email i recieved from the gms. I'm sure someone from ccp will soon delete this post so that none of you can read it or post to it. I will be posting it at all the other evesites and any mmorpg site that will take it. Private communication between the Game Masters, Eve Team members, moderators and administrators of the forum and the forum users is not to be made public on these forums or by any other venue. You are not permitted to publicize any private correspondence (including petitions) received from any of the aforementioned. GM Arkanon Hahahahahaha Ha. Funny -------------------------------------------- Dead
Ariell Lucinwind	Posted - 2003.12.02 08:50:00 - [40] Edited by: Ariell Lucinwind on 02/12/2003 08:53:44 I must say you get ten points for being a tool aww heck, hold on your not a tool, you're the entire freaking hardware store full of tools. this........... Quote: for christs sake i know its the guy who frauded me ... CCP can check in their logs or my journal for that matter and see where the money was transferred to. And get me the account owners name... This is the worst thing CCP could do if they gave you their name. How do you know its not the persons best mates sisters account and you go knocking on their door and abuse them. False accusations don't settle well with anyone and can bite you back later or sooner for that matter. If I planned this, that money would of been bounced through 15 pilots hands before comming to me and I wouldnt be getting the lot, just a partial of it so it slowly gets eaten away and lost while on its way to me, then I get repaid later in smaller amounts. You sir are as deep as a teaspoon and need to be unplugged and force fed some real world skills again. <<No HuGz for U>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Came back cause I love you guys :P
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2003.12.02 09:00:00 - [41] I'm confused. There seem to be two separate things going on here. (1) Falzone sells his account, the transaction doesn't go through, for whatever reason. He's got his account back. What's the crime here? (2) Falzone's lost a billion ISK from his character. So what? It wasn't yours. All virtual items, goods and money, insofar as they even exist at all, belong to CCP, not to the character who happens to have them in his hangar/wallet. So, again .. what's the crime here? _______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age."
Othnark	Posted - 2003.12.02 09:03:00 - [42] Quote: Aww, poor Falzone has suffered badly. Wait, he hasn't lost anything that he didn't steal from other people, anyway. The fact that the thief used real life means to carry out the theft makes it illegal, but why the ** does that mean Falzone should be "hurt" any worse than the people he stole from were? Real life or not, he hasn't lost anything he rightfully earned. I say go cry to someone who gives a **. Im sorry Veruna, but there is a distinction here. Corp theft is part of the game. Corp theft is sanctioned and allowable by CCP. Whats more, Falzone isnt an alt. He is a main, he took responsability for his actions and didnt delete his character. What more do you want? He did rightfully earn the things he stole all within the confines of the game. You may not like it, but thems the facts. Credit card fraud, on the otherhand is illegal in most countries around the world. -Othnark
Lianhaun	Posted - 2003.12.02 09:05:00 - [43] Falzone, let it go Really, the isk is not real money, it got the feelings its real because you know what is worth in dollars. But you cant go out and buy stuff with it outside EvE. The feeling you got scamed is not real, for it happend with unreal monopoly money so to speak. Just like Techell only got ripped off by you ingame, and not out of game. You can only file a complaint with ebay, but I doubt they can do anything against it since it was all ingame ( and I dont see ebay refunding lost isk). Better luck selling your account next time, say hello to the other SPVD. This is not a hijack
The Reclaimer	Posted - 2003.12.02 09:11:00 - [44] Karma
Nightfang	Posted - 2003.12.02 09:30:00 - [45] Babies cry when being cheated in a game. Falzones go run sueing the manufacturer of the game. Some of us just take the game for what it is...
Miso	Posted - 2003.12.02 09:31:00 - [46] Othnark - you're right and wrong. Theft is a part of the game, but corp theft is ******* low, no matter what. And for Falzone to get ripped in RL is, for me, hyserically funny. I get ripped off all the time in RL - everytime I go shopping, by the bank everytime they send me a statement, by my loan company, etc etc. Thats life. Falzone, you're a whelp and a hypocrit. People worked hard in game for that stuff you ripped off. Its stinks when you get robbed doesn't it? Deal with it. -------------------------------------------- Dead
Elvandar	Posted - 2003.12.02 09:35:00 - [47] Thing is why was you selling your account in the first place? The way i see it, is you got done just like you did Techell. CCP are right they should'nt give you anything cause you sold via Ebay, as soon as you did that it was out of CCP's hands. Live with it or go find some other game to play!
Kalast Raven	Posted - 2003.12.02 09:36:00 - [48] Hey Falzone, i think you are scum. Selling an account is so lame. I hope you never see a dime, loser. ------- K. Raven
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2003.12.02 09:37:00 - [49] now your greed and selfishness has bitten you in the ass. couldn't have happened to a nicer person. --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
Archemedes	Posted - 2003.12.02 09:54:00 - [50] Wow... can't believe this isn't locked yet... I have to agree that this is a matter for the cops. Whoever bought your account is guilty of credit card fraud against the card's rightful owner and possibly theft by deception or at least breach of contract with respect to you. If you're serious about this contact a lawyer... since Ebay bids are a binding legal contract you might even be able to sue for the $4500 (assuming the police find the thief). If you live in the US (where you can sue anyone over anything at any time) you might even win! On the other hand, I have to agree with the majority opinion on a couple things... 1) $4500 for an account??? No way I'd believe THAT until the money was in my hand. 2) Karma is a ***** somethimes...
Fuse	Posted - 2003.12.02 10:09:00 - [51] Edited by: Fuse on 02/12/2003 10:15:24 I don't believe anything a guy like you says. You may have made the whole thing up who knows who cares. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you.
Leo Graf	Posted - 2003.12.02 10:13:00 - [52] As I responded to you in your recent contact to us... I have submitted this horrowing tale of Karma to Slashdot. One can only hope that they too see the humour of this situation. _____________________________________________ EVE GUARDIAN Chief Editor EMAIL - [email protected] EVE-MAIL - Leo Graf Independance, Truth, Integrity; We are EVE GUARDIAN
DREAMWORKS	Posted - 2003.12.02 10:17:00 - [53] Roflol! muhaha, Justice does exist! You think there is any diffrence between IRL scamming and ingame? Do you think Kel'dra and Datsevlu felt better than you do right now? I have NO compassion with you, you got what you deserved. Other than that this was a transaction outside of EvE, do you sue an opel dealer when you get ripped of by a second hand dealer? I have seen alot of nutters, but your the king of em all. Common sense? __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
Siobhan	Posted - 2003.12.02 10:17:00 - [54] Edited by: Siobhan on 02/12/2003 10:18:04 Quote: this is a true story you guys are a**holes. Just a quick point... HARDIN gets BANNED from forums for 'flaming' after making a FUNNY animation about Tank CEO and this guys is still posting and this troll thread is still open. Can anyone say Mod inconsistency? --------- PIE Inc Avenging Angel www.pie-online.co.uk ---------
MaiLina KaTar	Posted - 2003.12.02 10:18:00 - [55] You know... sometimes I sit in front of my screen asking myself whether I¦m kind of a freak or not for sometimes playing so long and such. Threads like this one instantly make me realise that I¦m far from being a freak People getting all crazy over their accounts 'n stuff, robbing each other, filing lawsuits, threatening IRL, waking up deep at night to switch skilltraining, betraying fellow players, destroying corporations, doctoring screenshots, lying, faking convos,... There are people around here who really do surprise me Mai's Idealog
PropanElgen	Posted - 2003.12.02 10:26:00 - [56] So Falzone rips off his corp to make big bucks in RL, and then complains when it doesn't work. Cry me a river, you fairy. All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
Orestes	Posted - 2003.12.02 10:27:00 - [57] Discussing Ebay and it's auctions is not allowed on the forums. Quote: You may not post advertisements. Posts discussing or linking to online auction sites or the sale of in-game goods or services for real money are strictly prohibited. Also, there's a rule against flaming.. I'm locking this. Join the IC!

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