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DutchGunner	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:23:00 - [1] High slots: 6x Dual 650mm autocannon II 2x Heavy diminshing nosferatur Med slots: 1x Xlarge Shield Booster II 1x Sensor Booster II 1x 20km Scrambler 1x Em Hardner II 1x Thermal Hardner II 1x Kinetic Hardner II Low Slots: 4x Power Diagnostic System II 1x Gyrostabilizer II Rigs: 2x EM Hardner Shield Rig I 1x Thermal Hardner Shield Rig I
Dixon Caldari Hells Donkeys	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:29:00 - [2] ok, I'm no expert at minmatar ships but it seems you have lots of spare grid on that. I'd suggest something like: H - 8 x 800mm II M - MWD, scram, cap injector, Xlarge booster and 2x invulnII L - atleast 2-3 gyros and use the remaining slots for fitting mods (if it needs them). - - - - - - Originally by: Ath Amon as long as there will be such umbalance there is no hope to make ships balanced...
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:30:00 - [3] id recommend in all cases to get as much advantage from the big points of the ships : 8 guns, and large grid so yes go for 8x 800 if you can fit them ------ relaxed corp looking for members
Sadao Minmatar Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:31:00 - [4] How I would change it: High slots: 8x 800mm Repeating Arty II Med slots: Sensor Booster II -> Heavy Cap Booster Thermal & Kinetic Hardener > 2x Invul Field II Low Slots: 2x PDS II -> 2x Gyro II 1x PDS II -> Damage Control II Rigs: 1x EM Hard Rig 1x Kinetic Hard Rig 1x Thermal Hard Rig ---
DutchGunner	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:33:00 - [5] damn fast response, i like it But going for the 800mm ac II fitting, won't that result in far less tank?
Sadao Minmatar Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:35:00 - [6] Nope you can fit them all because that is the fit I used on my Maelstrom. ---
DutchGunner	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:40:00 - [7] Originally by: Sadao Nope you can fit them all because that is the fit I used on my Maelstrom. I am not referring to being able to fit it all. I am wondering how good you can still tank the damage you receive when fighting, as the em res. will be very low imo.
thesulei Syndicate Technologies	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:41:00 - [8] I would suggest fitting rigs for cap and/or falloff, and use med slots for resists instead of cap injector and/or mwd. This is not a solo ship imo, and you should have tacklers with you.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:46:00 - [9] Use rigs to reduce booster cap usage, and if you use an MWD fit a mass reduction rig to remove maelstrom worst problem.. weight. Also with BS 5 use a XL booster 1 Bosot amplifier and a rig to recude booster cycle times. And you dont need high resistances (2 invul are enough). You will be like tanking hundreds of DPS pure.. before resists... If brute force doesn't solve your problem.. then you are not using enough!!
DutchGunner	Posted - 2007.01.09 12:57:00 - [10] I have bs lvl5 So when reading the replies i should use the following fitting: highs: 8x 800mm Autocannon II meds: 1x Xlarge booster 1x boost amplifier 2x invuln. field II 1x 100mn MWD 1x scrambler low slots fitting mods damage mods mass reduction rigs shield boost cap need reduction shield boost cycle times reduction
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2007.01.09 13:00:00 - [11] Edited by: Splagada on 09/01/2007 12:57:11 id remove the scram and mwd. its a real gank ship (sadly) ------ relaxed corp looking for members
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 13:04:00 - [12] Originally by: DutchGunner I have bs lvl5 So when reading the replies i should use the following fitting: highs: 8x 800mm Autocannon II meds: 1x Xlarge booster 1x boost amplifier 2x invuln. field II 1x 100mn MWD 1x scrambler low slots fitting mods damage mods mass reduction rigs shield boost cap need reduction shield boost cycle times reduction good. And if you can get a tackler.. drop that scrambler for a injector. So you dont have any cap issue. Pretty much nothing can cross your tank other than an abaddon. If brute force doesn't solve your problem.. then you are not using enough!!
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:19:00 - [13] Originally by: DutchGunner I have bs lvl5 So when reading the replies i should use the following fitting: highs: 8x 800mm Autocannon II meds: 1x Xlarge booster 1x boost amplifier 2x invuln. field II 1x 100mn MWD 1x scrambler low slots fitting mods damage mods mass reduction rigs shield boost cap need reduction shield boost cycle times reduction fit this: 8x800mm II XL II, 2x invul II, injector, 20km, mwd 3x dmg mod, 1x damage control, 1x whatever you need for it to fit
Twin blade Minmatar The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:19:00 - [14] You can't solo in a maelstorm its to slow and to solo you have to armor tank it so lose its bonus. Maelstorm works well if you just go full gank with 1200/800's and have another player hold the enemy down for you. !
Jet Collins Dynamic Endeavors	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:33:00 - [15] With this BS you will need Cap. In your opening post you have the 2 NOS to help sustain your cap. In the set ups other are suggesting your going for all guns and the cap booster. Yes you have less mids slots for tanking or whatever. One thing you do not state is what your intentions are with this set up. PVE or PVP there are better set ups for this. Your set up might not be bad in PVE but I'm guessing in PvP you are a slow large target and you will be put out of your optimal range for your guns. Also why people say fit the MWD. The 880 have long range and with your 20 km scrambler you will want to stay at a range 10-20 km. Your curent set up will not do this. I have not done much with this ship but just from looking at your set up problems I see. 1. Nothing to control your optimal range, so you have to be able to tank like a mother, and minmatar ships tend to not be the best tankers. 2.Lost of resistance mods/rigs and all these still stack agaisnt each other I belive to replacing one or 2 of these with cap or speed would be better. anyway this is all just my oppinon best of luck. Dynamic Endeavors is now Recuiting.!! Contact me in game for deatails about the corp. Mostly a PvE corp, with Jump clones avaiale in Empire and 0.0.
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2007.01.09 14:58:00 - [16] I find the pvp/pve discussion a bit irrelevant for tier 3 BSes If you fit a pure pvp setup on mael, you will be able to solo most if not all missions, and definitely solo rat anywhere Those ships are beasts ------ relaxed corp looking for members
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:53:00 - [17] Edited by: Kagura Nikon on 09/01/2007 15:51:02 Maelstrom should not be hiunting anything solo! Anything dumb enough to not escape before it gets close is reaaaly dump. Maelstrom should warp in fight after tacklers have engaged a batteship force that was secure of its superiority, and now will find itself with a target too tough to break. Cap booster should do the trick for that case. Unsing Scramblers or web on a maelstrom is @*!@(#!@&#!@@(#!@)#)!@#)!@ and about thanking like a mother.. show me a ship thta can tank better than a maelstrom!!! A XL faction booster with 37% bonus over an amplifier 305 bonus and you get like 1500 shiled per cycle! If brute force doesn't solve your problem.. then you are not using enough!!
nabort Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 16:14:00 - [18] I use this setup with a tackler: 8x 800mm AC II XLarge Shield Booster II Shield Boost Amp II EM Hardener II Therm Hardener II Invul Field II Heavy Cap Injector II 2x Gyrostab II 2x PDU II 1x DCU II The tackler does all the ewar you need and you dont need to worry about range with 60km falloff with Barrage Rigs are beyond my price limit atm (filthy cheapskate here) so i cant really consider them but i would prolly go in for Cap Recharge Rigs to try to counter the horrible cap nerf on t2 ammo.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 16:29:00 - [19] You can use falloff rigs and then not use barrage. They are quite cheap (costed me 3.4 million to make each one of a batch of 6) If brute force doesn't solve your problem.. then you are not using enough!!
DutchGunner	Posted - 2007.01.17 18:08:00 - [20] Ok to get this topic back on track I plan on using the Maelstrom for solo or small gang (around 5 members). It is a partial long term plan but how would this setup be then Highs: 8x 800mm II Medium: 1x Xlarge shield booster II 1x faction mwd (the one that uses 600 cap) 2x invuln. II 1x cap injector 1x sensor booster II/scrambler (depending on being solo or in small gang) Lows: 3x Gyro II 1x Damage control 1x tracking enhancer II/fitting modules Rigs: 1x Reduce shield boost cycle 1x em res. 1x shield boost cap need reduction Implants: full low grade crystal set
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial	Posted - 2007.01.17 18:18:00 - [21] Originally by: Kagura Nikon You can use falloff rigs and then not use barrage. They are quite cheap (costed me 3.4 million to make each one of a batch of 6) Or you can use falloff rigs and still use barrage and hit 45km falloff with barrage ;) ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew"

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