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Torath
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Posted - 2003.12.02 11:56:00 -
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Why are cargo cans indestructable or good as?
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.12.02 12:16:00 -
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Why are you trying to destroy one?
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.12.02 12:19:00 -
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Why are you trying to destroy one?
Well if I can't steal from it I want to be able to destroy it, keep miners on thier toes!!
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.12.02 12:22:00 -
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"Well if I can't steal from it I want to be able to destroy it, keep miners on thier toes!!"
Well, too bad for you, because that is what the cans are for.
You need to learn to leave stuff alone that does not belong to you.
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.12.02 12:29:00 -
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"Well if I can't steal from it I want to be able to destroy it, keep miners on thier toes!!"
Well, too bad for you, because that is what the cans are for.
You need to learn to leave stuff alone that does not belong to you.
So if the cans are nearly indestructable, why don't they make ships out of the same stuff??
And why do they need to be so hard, if they were made a little weaker then there would be at least some risk mining??
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.12.02 12:34:00 -
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Edited by: WhiteDwarf on 02/12/2003 12:40:21
"And why do they need to be so hard, if they were made a little weaker then there would be at least some risk mining??"
A miner can make mining very safe, or very risky. He can mine in 1.0 space or 0.0 space.
Why don't you go looking for miners to attack in 0.0 space and leave the cans in 1.0 space alone.
Why are you attacking cans?? Seems a little lame, why don't you look for ships to attack?
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.12.02 12:42:00 -
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Ships don't give me the minerals I need, so I like to to take from cans. If I can't take from them I should be able to use them as a ransoming tool. Thus they should be able to be destroyed, makes no sence to have them so strong!!
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.12.02 12:44:00 -
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"Ships don't give me the minerals I need"
Then you need to invest in a couple mining lasers and get the minerals the way the game intended you to get them.
Sorry you have to work for what you want, but...
"Trust No One" |
Darth Vodka
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Posted - 2003.12.02 12:45:00 -
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...then i should be able to use your biomass corpse as a ransoming tool.
Aren't their still countries where thiefs get their hands chopped off |
svetlana
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Posted - 2003.12.02 12:49:00 -
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Why are you trying to destroy one?
Well if I can't steal from it I want to be able to destroy it, keep miners on thier toes!!
well you just answered your own question. the sec cans were introduced because of players like you. if you like to fight you should find some players who actually have guns on their ships instead of defenseless players and cans floating in space. maybe that will keep YOU on your toes.
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.12.02 12:52:00 -
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Secure cans can be destroyed, anyone who's been to Gehi will have noticed tons of cans outside the station, well yesterday, i think, a couple of pilots blew most of them up. Probably a good think considering Gehi is laggy anyway.
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.12.02 12:56:00 -
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well you just answered your own question. the sec cans were introduced because of players like you. if you like to fight you should find some players who actually have guns on their ships instead of defenseless players and cans floating in space. maybe that will keep YOU on your toes.
-svet
I don't want to be kept on my toes, I pick on the weaker as its less risk. I don't fit miners because it bores me and I can't see a problem with letting others do the work for me!!
I just don't understand why cans are indestructable, and why ships arn't made from the same stuff??
Its making my job a little harder but there is always the suckers who still use jet cans.  
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Monty Burns
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Posted - 2003.12.02 13:02:00 -
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And I will happily take a security hit and probably death in order to teach you not to steal ores. Hope you (or any other ore thief) have a clone coz if you don't and i catch you stealing your probably starting a new character - regardless of it being my can or not.
Bye! :-)
Darwin 4tw
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.12.02 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Torath on 02/12/2003 13:47:23
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And I will happily take a security hit and probably death in order to teach you not to steal ores. Hope you (or any other ore thief) have a clone coz if you don't and i catch you stealing your probably starting a new character - regardless of it being my can or not.
Bye! :-)
OH, sorry I will stop what was I thinking, such a bad boy!!!
But still why should cans be so hard, I try to earn an honest trade and by not being able to threaten the destruction of thier cans makes it difficult. I can destroy their ship no problems but their can will survive makes no sense?
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.12.02 14:05:00 -
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So if the cans are nearly indestructable, why don't they make ships out of the same stuff??
Same reason as they do not build planes out of the material the black box is made out of...
Convert Stations
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.12.02 14:12:00 -
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So if the cans are nearly indestructable, why don't they make ships out of the same stuff??
Same reason as they do not build planes out of the material the black box is made out of...
I think you will find that is because the material the blackbox is made of is too heavy to build a plane form!! Where as in space it doesn't mater as there is no gravity, so a ship can be built of anything.
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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OneTwoOne
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Posted - 2003.12.02 14:20:00 -
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So if the cans are nearly indestructable, why don't they make ships out of the same stuff??
Same reason as they do not build planes out of the material the black box is made out of...
I think you will find that is because the material the blackbox is made of is too heavy to build a plane form!! Where as in space it doesn't mater as there is no gravity, so a ship can be built of anything.
But a ship in Eve also slows down when an afterburner is turned off.
Just think about it like this, when a can is anchored it's pushed into subspace and when it's fired upon it doesn't take much damage, happy now?
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cypriss
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Posted - 2003.12.02 14:27:00 -
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well they wouldn't be so 'secure' if you could easily destroy them.
as for why they don't make the ships out of the same material,...maybe the material is too expensive, maybe its toxic to humans (or humanoids if you are going to nit pick), maybe it reacts with and corrodes other metals so you can't attach turrets of missle launchers, or run wiring.
use your imagination, its a game.
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Severus Trajan
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Posted - 2003.12.02 14:36:00 -
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I think you will find that is because the material the blackbox is made of is too heavy to build a plane form!! Where as in space it doesn't mater as there is no gravity, so a ship can be built of anything.
Uhhhh...no, actually...
The reason the black box often survives is that it is built more like a golfball, compared to an aircraft being more of a ping-pong ball, in order to actually transport people and things inside it. The blackbox isn't made of some super-secret high-tech material or anything, but rather constructed in a robust fashion.
Now, this is just a real-life injection into the thread, it certainly doesn't explain why the cargo pods are close to indestructible... 
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2003.12.02 14:39:00 -
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Ships don't give me the minerals I need, so I like to to take from cans. If I can't take from them I should be able to use them as a ransoming tool. Thus they should be able to be destroyed, makes no sence to have them so strong!!
So park your fleet of pirates around the can(s) and threaten the owner when he comes to get them.
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StealthNet
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Posted - 2003.12.02 14:48:00 -
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I can't believe Im reading this 
I remember months ago, lots of threads talking about secure cans. They were introduced because ppl would easily steal from standard jettisoned cans, or blow them up.
CCP came into play, and introduced them, syaing that "if you want to mine securely, se secure containers".
Now someone is asking to make them destructible, so they can keep their grief going, since ppl started to actually use the secure cans.
Funny isn't it
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.12.02 14:58:00 -
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I can't believe Im reading this
I remember months ago, lots of threads talking about secure cans. They were introduced because ppl would easily steal from standard jettisoned cans, or blow them up.
CCP came into play, and introduced them, syaing that "if you want to mine securely, se secure containers".
Now someone is asking to make them destructible, so they can keep their grief going, since ppl started to actually use the secure cans.
Funny isn't it
Sorry you say grief, I think what you meant was pirating?!?!
If I feel something is amis with the game that means there is an unfare advantage to a certain party then I am sure I can have my say.
I don't ask for them to be made as easy to destroy as jet cans but at the moment they are rediculously hard. Just give them 50k hitpoins that would still pose a large amount of blasting to destroy but still able to be destroyed.
Just because you miners want peace doesn't mean we all want it. We all have to addapt to a situation that is presented but you can't addapt to the invinsible.
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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WhiteDwarf
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Posted - 2003.12.02 15:01:00 -
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"Just because you miners want peace doesn't mean we all want it. We all have to addapt to a situation that is presented but you can't addapt to the invinsible"
We've adapted plenty, it's time for you to stop crying, and realize that you cannot destroy secure cans.
Enough with this whining, go buy some miner II's if you want some f'ing ore...
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Braccas
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Posted - 2003.12.02 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Braccas on 02/12/2003 15:06:20
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Secure cans can be destroyed, anyone who's been to Gehi will have noticed tons of cans outside the station, well yesterday, i think, a couple of pilots blew most of them up. Probably a good think considering Gehi is laggy anyway.
At your service
Thx to DigitalCommunist, Clone 0, von Steinroehder for support.
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.12.02 15:19:00 -
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We've adapted plenty, it's time for you to stop crying, and realize that you cannot destroy secure cans.
Enough with this whining, go buy some miner II's if you want some f'ing ore...
How have miners adapted? You have BS to mine all day in Empire space with no risk there. You have secure cans for 0.0 mining no real risk there, so which part have you had to adapt to?
Oh and also a question and an opinion is not me whining!!
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Torath
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Posted - 2003.12.02 15:21:00 -
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At your service
Thx to DigitalCommunist, Clone 0, von Steinroehder for support.
How long did it take you to take out one can?
You want it I got it....erm unless I sold it, then some one else has it!?! :/
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Harcole
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Posted - 2003.12.02 15:41:00 -
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who cares thanks for the clean up guys
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Gan Ning
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Posted - 2003.12.02 15:59:00 -
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Torath,
If you plan on destroying a secure can, you might as well take a packed launch and some magazines with you, not to mention probably half a dozen Industrials carrying your ammo. |
Braccas
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Posted - 2003.12.02 16:00:00 -
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How long did it take you to take out one can?
5-6 minutes each
1 Apoc, 1 Arma, 1 Scorp, 1 Megathron
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Braccas
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Posted - 2003.12.02 16:02:00 -
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Torath,
If you plan on destroying a secure can, you might as well take a packed launch and some magazines with you, not to mention probably half a dozen Industrials carrying your ammo.
Shows u never tried it. Those cans got around 100k hitpoints, pretty fast eaten.
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