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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.21 19:49:26 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:If they were captured by proper Amarr combatants they would be more than likely enslaved. Which is worse? A life of servitude or death?
You can escape or be rescued from one of those.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1639
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Posted - 2015.11.22 13:59:51 -
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Diana Kim wrote:And I see Minmatar rhetoric hasn't changed.
Instead of attacking real slavers - Sansha Nation, who enslave to kill and turn into flesh puppets anyone they encounter, the Tribals attack peaceful Empire citizens, who enslave only criminals and prisoners of war.
And the innocent children of any slave, no matter how many generations back you have to go to find those 'criminals and prisoners of war'. |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.22 16:04:02 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Arrendis wrote:Diana Kim wrote:And I see Minmatar rhetoric hasn't changed.
Instead of attacking real slavers - Sansha Nation, who enslave to kill and turn into flesh puppets anyone they encounter, the Tribals attack peaceful Empire citizens, who enslave only criminals and prisoners of war. And the innocent children of any slave, no matter how many generations back you have to go to find those 'criminals and prisoners of war'. Arrendis, you are really breaking all limits of stupidity. They were BORN slaves, not enslaved.
No-one is born a slave. They are enslaved when the paperwork is processed. |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.23 22:04:05 -
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Kador Ouryon wrote:Yet some how the Elder's were simply able to flout modern laws and agreements through minor and baseless interpretations of their making and despite this no punishment or injunctions were levelled against the guilty parties.
You mean the Elders who weren't part of the Republic, but built and staged their fleet in the Thukker-held Great Wildlands, where none of the 'binding agreements' held sway?
Very good, sir. I assume, based on your logic, that when the Blood Raiders attack a ship, you consider that ship to have come under fire from the Amarr Empire, then? |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.24 02:47:44 -
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Kador Ouryon wrote:Where our representatives had though they might have brokered some modicum of peace or perhaps a cold conflict with the Matari people as a whole the Elder's proved us wrong and made us subject to an unlawful attack. That CONCORD itself took no punitive action, nor the Republic itself was as I have said aggrieving enough.
Precisely what 'punitive action' would you like CONCORD to have taken in an area where, according to the Yulai accords that created it, CONCORD has no power to enact punitive action?
Similarly, what punitive action would you like the Republic to have taken on dead men, considering the Elder Fleet was destroyed? Or would you have had the Minmatar Republic attack nomadic Thukker bands in the Great Wildlands, with no indications who actually constructed those ships?
After all, the Amarr never undertook reprisals against the Thukkers, despite having every piece of physical evidence available to any of the Empires?
Quote: Amusingly enough though yourself and other capsuleers more closely aligned with the Matari people seem altogether too keen to jump to the Elder's defence despite their actions mirroring those of the Empire despite the representative and supposedly governing body of the Republic holding agreements with the CONCORD signatory members.
The Elders were not represented by the governing body of the Republic. They did not live in the Republic. They were not affiliated with the Republic.
Let's play a game of 'what if...?'
What If....
- Asher Elias, a member of Goonswarm, kidnaps your child.
- You vow to get your child back.
- Three years later, Alizabeth Vea and I make a deal that says I won't attack her, and she won't attack me. Neither one of us claims to speak for anyone but ourselves.
Are you now prohibited from seeking to free and recover your child, because 'goons' and 'amarr' have a legally-binding agreement?
Because that's roughly what you're complaining about. |
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