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Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
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Posted - 2011.12.12 23:57:00 -
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Seriously?
Great gifts, yes, I will not lie about that. However....
What about the people who make destroyers? What about the people who make POS fuel blocks? What about the people who sell implants with LP? What about the people who sell faction ammo with LP?
All of the above people are getting boned by the promotions. CCP is breaking the sandbox by spawning items from magic GM powers that are normally player created and/or player seeded on the markets. This sets a very dangerous precedent for future NEX Store / promotions. The only thing on the list that is a true gift is the remap. Anything else is intentionally f*cking the people who normally work those markets.
My $0.02, not trolling for once. |

Zowie Powers
Hole in the wall
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Posted - 2011.12.12 23:59:00 -
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Caring about this game is so 2006. |

K Suri
Red Gooey Bananas
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Posted - 2011.12.12 23:59:00 -
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It IS a troll. And a bad one.
Go have a lie down. |

Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:00:00 -
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Joe SMASH wrote:Why is there no outrage over the xmas gifts?
Because they don't suck and actually exist this year.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |

Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:02:00 -
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then do your duty to your fellow community and dont claim your gift. your conscience is clear friend |

Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:03:00 -
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you are aware that ccp gave out literally thousands of t1 cruisers last year right? did the t1 cruiser market crash? |

Borun Tal
One More Corp
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:05:00 -
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Joe SMASH wrote:Seriously?
Great gifts, yes, I will not lie about that. However....
What about the people who make destroyers? What about the people who make POS fuel blocks? What about the people who sell implants with LP? What about the people who sell faction ammo with LP?
All of the above people are getting boned by the promotions. CCP is breaking the sandbox by spawning items from magic GM powers that are normally player created and/or player seeded on the markets. This sets a very dangerous precedent for future NEX Store / promotions. The only thing on the list that is a true gift is the remap. Anything else is intentionally f*cking the people who normally work those markets.
My $0.02, not trolling for once.
What about them? Most people will take the Aurum to buy more useless crap. The gifts will have zero impact on markets.
Oh, and if you take any of the medium or large ammo's feel free to contract them to me. I use the sh!t, I don't sell it. :) |

Echo Falls
Adherents of the Repeated Meme
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:08:00 -
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Borun Tal wrote:
What about them? Most people will take the Aurum to buy more useless crap. The gifts will have zero impact on markets.
Oh, and if you take any of the medium or large ammo's feel free to contract them to me. I use the sh!t, I don't sell it. :)
I know I have, 2000 Aurum .. that should get me up to those heals I have been craving. The lady needs to keep up appearances. |

Galatea Galilei
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:13:00 -
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Joe SMASH wrote:...not trolling for once. lol... no one has ever said that phrase in honesty. (If people aren't trolling, it doesn't even occur to them to say it. Only trolls feel the need to add the disclaimer.)
Echo Falls wrote:I know I have, 2000 Aurum .. that should get me up to those heals I have been craving. The lady needs to keep up appearances. Unfortunately, the heels are 3000. :( |

Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:16:00 -
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Obviously I'm in the minority. I just don't think it is right. Sure, the gift don't suck. I'm not arguing that. However they do break the sandbox in a way and set precedence on future CCP actions.
Take that for what you will... it's my opinion. I went with the remaps anyways. |

Skydell
Space Mermaids
12
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:21:00 -
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Back in 2005 I used to collect criminal dog tags. They were useless and people all but gave them away. Then camp LP and some of those dog tags were going for 8 mill each. Yes, I made billions.
Aurum is junk. Today. How long do you plan to play EVE? |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
87
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:23:00 -
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I'm going for the faction torps. Might last me a few days.
Impact on market... negligible as once I'm out, I have to start buying again. |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:23:00 -
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Joe SMASH wrote:Obviously I'm in the minority. I just don't think it is right. Sure, the gift don't suck. I'm not arguing that. However they do break the sandbox in a way and set precedence on future CCP actions.
Take that for what you will... it's my opinion. I went with the remaps anyways.
Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad for having it. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:25:00 -
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GǪbecause the offers of stuff that already exists on the market is less valuable than the ones that offer (slightly) unique or different items, so no-one in their right mind will go for those. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |

Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:28:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GǪbecause the offers of stuff that already exists on the market is less valuable than the ones that offer (slightly) unique or different items, so no-one in their right mind will go for those.
While I agree with your valuation of the items, I think you vastly over estimate the general intelligence of some of the players. |

Resivan
Driftglass Development
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:30:00 -
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With the exception of the fuel block BPOs and the hanger decorations, all the gift items are things that will be used up in short order.
They give the noobs free samples, Because they know full well, That today's young wanna be pirates, Will be tomorrow's clientele. |

Hikaru Kuroda
Shimai of New Eden N E X O
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:57:00 -
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Take the neural remap, no one will be hurt that way. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
296
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Posted - 2011.12.13 00:58:00 -
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Let's all have a vote on something to rage about this week.
I vote that we rage about there not being something in this game. Here are some ideas:
Ponies Puppies Kittens Launchers for ponies, kittens, and puppies Wet Bar in the CQ. Hookers in the CQ (unless the backstory says that clones are rather, uh.... lacking...) Pimp clothes in the Nex. Mac Daddies sound off The fact that the only cool Intaki hairdo since they got rid of the mullet make us look like Snape Why I can't hang around in the CQ in my undies and dirty t-shirt Where is Scotty? CCP Santa Claus Fleet giving out toys to all the good players..... oh wait.... there are no good players
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mkint
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Posted - 2011.12.13 01:02:00 -
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In principle, yes I'm pretty upset.
In practice, there is a wide enough variety of offerings that I don't think it will really affect any markets. Only the booster producers are at much risk, and since they are all nullbear CCP catamites, who cares. |

Noriko Mai
337
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Posted - 2011.12.13 01:04:00 -
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Here is a bit I found. |

Crystal Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
41
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Posted - 2011.12.13 01:05:00 -
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Do your part to uphold the ecomony.
Pod people 
Don't pod me bro!
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Shellshock Bob
Hedion University Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2011.12.13 01:13:00 -
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Joe SMASH wrote:Seriously?
Great gifts, yes, I will not lie about that. However....
What about the people who make destroyers? What about the people who make POS fuel blocks? What about the people who sell implants with LP? What about the people who sell faction ammo with LP?
All of the above people are getting boned by the promotions. CCP is breaking the sandbox by spawning items from magic GM powers that are normally player created and/or player seeded on the markets. This sets a very dangerous precedent for future NEX Store / promotions. The only thing on the list that is a true gift is the remap. Anything else is intentionally f*cking the people who normally work those markets.
My $0.02, not trolling for once.
I make a good bit of isk selling faction ammo and i have no problems with the gift selection. If anything i won't sell any for a few weeks, and instead buy at the rock bottom prices, and sit on it until the market comes back up on it. |

Potamus Jenkins
The Lucky Bible Company
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Posted - 2011.12.13 01:21:00 -
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Shellshock Bob wrote:Joe SMASH wrote:Seriously?
Great gifts, yes, I will not lie about that. However....
What about the people who make destroyers? What about the people who make POS fuel blocks? What about the people who sell implants with LP? What about the people who sell faction ammo with LP?
All of the above people are getting boned by the promotions. CCP is breaking the sandbox by spawning items from magic GM powers that are normally player created and/or player seeded on the markets. This sets a very dangerous precedent for future NEX Store / promotions. The only thing on the list that is a true gift is the remap. Anything else is intentionally f*cking the people who normally work those markets.
My $0.02, not trolling for once. I make a good bit of isk selling faction ammo and i have no problems with the gift selection. If anything i won't sell any for a few weeks, and instead buy at the rock bottom prices, and sit on it until the market comes back up on it.
i like the cut of your jib |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
539
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Posted - 2011.12.13 01:40:00 -
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really its a few free ships and implants, the ammo is pretty meaningless, a small bump in a brisk market
I kind of see it as a way to encourage pvp, its all oriented to combat for the most part, then vanity then temporary buffs and ammo
don't want to risk that set of +3s, well here's another, go get podded wanna try the new destroyers? have a few, burn em up, we'll even throw in the ammo, and you'll get back the hull value if insured wanna run that extra tough mission? have a buff or if nothing else, here's some ammo
the fuel BPs make sense as most people serious about fuel wont be buying it in jita anyway and will buy the npc seeds
shuttles? who cares?
think you're god? well put on a suit for christ's sake. The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
296
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Posted - 2011.12.13 01:44:00 -
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Yeeeess neural remap
Now when I finish training every skill with operation, management and upgrades in its name, I can actually remap and start training spaceships and gunnery at unretarded speeds for the next 9 months. Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks. |

Forum Fighter
Internet Tough Guys
20
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Posted - 2011.12.13 01:52:00 -
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Dude. Read your thread title.
Outrage. Gift.
Entitlement much? You must be a 99%'r. Bearer of the 1600mm Tinfoil Hat -¬ |

Echo Falls
Adherents of the Repeated Meme
2
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Posted - 2011.12.13 01:55:00 -
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Galatea Galilei wrote:Joe SMASH wrote:...not trolling for once. lol... no one has ever said that phrase in honesty. (If people aren't trolling, it doesn't even occur to them to say it. Only trolls feel the need to add the disclaimer.) Echo Falls wrote:I know I have, 2000 Aurum .. that should get me up to those heals I have been craving. The lady needs to keep up appearances. Unfortunately, the heels are 3000. :(
+ The rest of the Aurum already given away .. The Lady is not daft, she saves for her heals. |

Mistress Lilu
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2011.12.13 02:16:00 -
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Joe SMASH wrote:Seriously?
Great gifts, yes, I will not lie about that. However....
What about the people who make destroyers? What about the people who make POS fuel blocks? What about the people who sell implants with LP? What about the people who sell faction ammo with LP?
All of the above people are getting boned by the promotions. CCP is breaking the sandbox by spawning items from magic GM powers that are normally player created and/or player seeded on the markets. This sets a very dangerous precedent for future NEX Store / promotions. The only thing on the list that is a true gift is the remap. Anything else is intentionally f*cking the people who normally work those markets.
My $0.02, not trolling for once. Dude shut up..
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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
20
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Posted - 2011.12.13 02:48:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Hookers in the CQ (unless the backstory says that clones are rather, uh.... lacking...)
Clones don't seem to be lacking fingers and tongues. Is that what you meant? |

Jake Peters
the Organ Grinder and Company Higginbotham and Bailey's Circus
2
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Posted - 2011.12.13 03:03:00 -
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Thank you for the Christmas gift CCP...the remap will do very nicely!  |
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