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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.25 22:40:00 -
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As Hasikan already said the isk in missions is in the LP not the mission rewards. You have to figure LP in.
Before burner missions were introduced players typically were able to make more isk per hour doing level 3 than level 4's until they had really high Skills.
Null sec missions will pay out way more than high sec.
Running null sec anoms can get you 20+ million bounty ticks ( concord pays out bounties every 20 minutes each bounty payout is a "tick").
This is a game. You will hear people talk about fun per hour. In my opinion if you are chasing after what pays the most isk then you are playing eve wrong. You should be doing what is fun for you to do. You can make isk doing anything in this game.
However it's your game, don't let me tell you how to play it. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.25 22:44:51 -
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Ragnar Gunn wrote:Why would people not use a Drake for level 3's? Surely they dont run level 2's in a Drake, too easy.
Once again making isk in missions is all about speed running. You want to turn in as many missions as you can in as short amount of time as possible, if making maximum isk is your goal that is.
Doing missions really fast usually involves laying down decent dps. The drake is known for a lot of things but high amounts of damage is not one of them.
I've run level 4's like AE and Worlds Collide in a drake before. It can be done. Granted it took me all night long to run the one mission but I did it. That was before all of the "re-balancing" so IDK if it is still possible.
Like I said already it's a game and it's all about the fun. If you like your Drake and enjoy running missions in it don't let anyone tell you not to. The Drake was my favorite ship for a long long time. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
959
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Posted - 2015.11.25 22:51:29 -
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Also skills can help a lot. If you are planning on running missions you should definitely train up the appropriate "Connections" skill. For combat missions that is "Security Connections". Just look through all the social skills there are others that will help with payouts some of them not so obvious.
Mission rewards are calculated in part by your standing so connections will increase payouts as well. Of course "negotiations" will help and "Social" will get your standing up faster thus helping indirectly. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
959
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Posted - 2015.11.26 00:17:08 -
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Ragnar Gunn wrote:
So in short, running missions for SOE will be better than Caldari Navy in almost every way, correct?
It's better in the ways that have been stated.
It has it's draw backs.
For starters the mission agents are few and far inbetween. There will be lots of mission intruders in those systems and especially if you are flying something with a huge sig radius like a passive shield tanked Drake or a Marauder you'll have lots of "friends" come visit you in your missions. Just to name a few. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.26 16:40:30 -
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Ragnar Gunn wrote:Shallanna Yassavi wrote:SoE mission hubs, especially the high-level ones, tend to have gankers in them. They can make your life interesting. even the agents in the 0.7 systems?
Osmon is probably the busiest non-trade hub system in game and often has a higher population than some of the lesser pop trade hubs.SoE LP is very nice as has been pointed out and there are few agents as has been pointed out so lots of people there and peeople looking to do mission intrusions are going to gravitate towards target rich environments so yes Osmon is very very busy.
When I ran missions for SoE back in the day I used to do them in Osmon. Not because of the added safety that the 0.5 would give over a 0.7 ( so small that it is not even really a factor ) but because the 0.5 agents were closer to low sec and thus I would get locked out of doing missions on a 4 hour timer too often.
I think security mission agents can give you a mission to any system in the constellation. So checking the systems in a constellation can give you some indication of the chances of getting a low sec mission. You get offered one and you turn it down and start a 4 hour timer. Get offered the second one and you are done missioning for the evening. It can get annoying. So my laziness kept me in Osmon.
TBH though I honestly think that missions should only be used to get familiar with the game. Once you learn the basics of ship combat for fun and for money I think players should move on. Either try FW or try out null sec and either do some belt ratting or run some anoms. Null sec missioning can even be pretty cool. Just keep in mind that Eve is a group PvP game. If you are running solo content in Eve night after night then you are playing this game wrong.
Use mission running as a spring board to get you into other stuff and you'll be fine. Treat mission running like dailies in WoW and you'll get board with this game fast. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
971
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Posted - 2015.11.27 14:08:57 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:
TBH though I honestly think that missions should only be used to get familiar with the game. Once you learn the basics of ship combat for fun and for money I think players should move on. Either try FW or try out null sec and either do some belt ratting or run some anoms. Null sec missioning can even be pretty cool. Just keep in mind that Eve is a group PvP game.
If you are running solo content in Eve night after night then you are playing this game wrong.
Use mission running as a spring board to get you into other stuff and you'll be fine. Treat mission running like dailies in WoW and you'll get board with this game fast.
Sorry but I gotta disagree with this statement. First - Eve Online is a sandbox game which means there's no right or wrong way to play. Second - There's no rule stating you can't solo run the game content. Third - Despite what others may say, if you enjoy doing a specific type of content available in the game, then do it. DMC
I can not disagree with anything that you've said here. I've often said that you can't play Eve wrong.
That being said I'd like to add some clarification to the intent behind my comment.
Most other MMOs fit into one genre. Eve is very different from that. That other genre has as lot of engaging solo play as well as challenging PvE content. Eve due to it's high cost of death can not have PvE content that is anywhere near that challenging.
So by design Eve is a very different game. A game which is intended to shine in group activities and especially group activities involving PvP. I say this as a strict PvE player that's been PvEing in this game since 2009. However I understand that I am not normal, not IRL and not in this game.
So back to my original intent. So many players come here and assume missions are essentially like quests and they are not. In a game like WoW or Final Fantasy or the like you can quest in that game for years and constantly be introduced to new storylines and continue to level up and get new spell/moves and be walked through tutorials that are built into the storyline to teach you every aspect of the game.
In Eve you will wind up rescuing that whore of a Damsel that claims to be in distress over and over. I mean I'm at the point where I think that little princess likes being dominated by bad boys and likes having here ass sold like cheap meat at the deli. I guess that I should not be complaining, I mean her dad does keep forking over the cash for me to keep rescuing her.
Anyway back on topic which is that if you like running missions all day every day and never engaging with other players more than is absolutely necessary than have at it. However I just want to let new players know that if they think that missions are like quests and get bored with the game running missions, that they should know that this game is a group PvP focused game and that missioning, while it may be done by a lot of players, only accounts for a very very small percentage of the content in this game. The players are the content in this game and all of PvE takes a back seat to player created content.
So by all means if you are enjoying running missions don't let me stop you. However the people that are enjoying that game play don't need me to tell them to do what they enjoy. My comment was directed more at the player which gets bored with that type of thing, which I believe is the majority. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
972
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Posted - 2015.11.27 22:05:00 -
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Bastion Arzi wrote:
to be fair tho i ran the level 4 against the amarr in low sec so the rewards might be slighlty better there.
Yes if you are willing to go to low sec rewards will be better. And if you don't mind destroying empire standings you can mission for pirate factions and do really well for yourself.
The lower the sec status the better the reward
Pirate faction LP is worth significantly more per LP than empire faction LP
Low sec and null sec factions typically have LP stores with cheaper items thus making the conversion to liquid isk even more profitable.
An example. SoE has a corporation that only exists in null sec known as The Sanctuary. I'll use the Nestor as an example. In the null sec only LP store of The Sanctuary you can get a Nestor BPC for 400K LP and 100 Million isk. In the SoE corp which exists in empire space they have the exact same Nestor BPC for 600K LP and 150 Million isk. So exactly one and a half times the cost and you get less rewards for each mission.
I ran mission on a low skill point alt that I made strictly for running null sec missions. I ran missions for blood raiders and did very well for my self isk wise especially considering how low my skill points were. Of course you have to learn how to operate in null and be ok with the heavily PvP environment that exists in NPC null but if that is your thing it can be very profitable.
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