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Zaribeth Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.11 03:19:00 - [1] What if CCP added a ORE titan class mining vessel into eve. Capable of fitting 8 capital strip miner's. And a doomsday weapon that strips all the ore in a system in one go. Emptying it all into very large can's outside the titan. And the titan was capable of fitting some new warfare modules that doubles mining output of every barge in system. What if this was to happen'd :P Every carebear's dream. Would ofcourse make the market colapse :) Now i want one of those CCP, so that i can mine all the ore i need for a titan in a few days solo. -------FIX-------
Draqun Caldari Wo Zhi Dao Rogue Method Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.11 03:26:00 - [2] Originally by: Zaribeth What if CCP added a ORE titan class mining vessel into eve. Capable of fitting 8 capital strip miner's. And a doomsday weapon that strips all the ore in a system in one go. Emptying it all into very large can's outside the titan. And the titan was capable of fitting some new warfare modules that doubles mining output of every barge in system. What if this was to happen'd :P Every carebear's dream. Would ofcourse make the market colapse :) Now i want one of those CCP, so that i can mine all the ore i need for a titan in a few days solo. . . . I need to adjust the tranquiliser dosage that Ive been adding to my Rail gun rounds agani dont I? --------------------------------------- First rule of playing EVE online If your too paranoid to play Eve your not paranoid enough to play Eve
Nex Angelus Caldari Hypherians	Posted - 2007.01.11 03:26:00 - [3] Originally by: Zaribeth Now i want one of those CCP, so that i can mine all the ore i need for a titan in a few days solo. Now, If it's a mining titan how would you get the minerals for that one, and if you have them, why not using them to build the titan that you want? Originally by: Zaribeth Would ofcourse make the market colapse :) See... My solution doesn't break the eve-economy
Zaribeth Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.11 03:28:00 - [4] Originally by: Nex Angelus Originally by: Zaribeth Now i want one of those CCP, so that i can mine all the ore i need for a titan in a few days solo. Now, If it's a mining titan how would you get the minerals for that one, and if you have them, why not using them to build the titan that you want? Originally by: Zaribeth Would ofcourse make the market colapse :) See... My solution doesn't break the eve-economy But with my idea i can start mass producing titan's for everyone to use :) -------FIX-------
Nex Angelus Caldari Hypherians	Posted - 2007.01.11 03:31:00 - [5] Originally by: Zaribeth Originally by: Nex Angelus Originally by: Zaribeth Now i want one of those CCP, so that i can mine all the ore i need for a titan in a few days solo. Now, If it's a mining titan how would you get the minerals for that one, and if you have them, why not using them to build the titan that you want? Originally by: Zaribeth Would ofcourse make the market colapse :) See... My solution doesn't break the eve-economy But with my idea i can start mass producing titan's for everyone to use :) Circular logic FTL
Syrec Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.01.11 03:36:00 - [6] titan: the new battleship
Kiyano Caldari Star Fraction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.11 03:38:00 - [7] In all honesty i bet the ORE capital industrial wont have a single turret slot, and will in fact give gang bonus's to mining ability, while either housing Fighter sized mining drones (with remote assign abilities perhaps?) or have a mobile refinery on board. But... who knows, i doubt it will have lasers on itself though. Though something to make it have to sit in the frontlines would be good, Eve doesn't need a massive boost in money making without the ability to shoot at it.
Aiyleena Iluvatar	Posted - 2007.01.11 03:42:00 - [8] i would rather know if i should get my hands on mobile refinery skills now
Kiyano Caldari Star Fraction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.11 03:46:00 - [9] Originally by: Aiyleena Iluvatar i would rather know if i should get my hands on mobile refinery skills now If its introduced they'd put the skill on the market don't you think? (for cheaper then the collectors price that skill fetches now.) Just a guess though.
Aiyleena Iluvatar	Posted - 2007.01.11 03:52:00 - [10] sure, why the heck have i then to search for the harvester skills.... i bet they drop from ORE agents...
Kiyano Caldari Star Fraction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.11 04:00:00 - [11] Originally by: Aiyleena Iluvatar sure, why the heck have i then to search for the harvester skills.... i bet they drop from ORE agents... Who sells skills... could it be, NPC corps from empire? Why yes it is. Whats that you say? Boosters are illegal? well surely the skill for them must be too... I find it hard to believe they'd just be handing out the skill to use illegal substances in a 1.0.
Zaribeth Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.11 06:22:00 - [12] This was meant as a joke thread, so keep it ontopic please. -------FIX-------
Syrec Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.01.11 07:08:00 - [13] Originally by: Zaribeth This was meant as a joke thread, so keep it ontopic please. why did the ORE titan cross the astroid belt? to get to the other zyd

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2007.01.11 07:33:00 - [14] Originally by: Kiyano Originally by: Aiyleena Iluvatar i would rather know if i should get my hands on mobile refinery skills now If its introduced they'd put the skill on the market don't you think? (for cheaper then the collectors price that skill fetches now.) Just a guess though. Meaning that if they was to introduce that skill again I made a great deal when I sold the book for 750M the other day Buy EVE history and get Otherworld shares

Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.01.11 08:47:00 - [15] Originally by: Chribba Meaning that if they was to introduce that skill again I made a great deal when I sold the book for 750M the other day Le audible gasp ! And to think I just USED one myself a few hours ago (still have the skill at L0 and can't even fly a barge yet), and I got it for 10 mil (the price the guy who sold it to me got it from escrow, and he was willing to give it to me for free). Oh well, I don't regret it that I used it... I just kind of feel sad for that guy, he could have gotten a pretty good deal for himself... now I feel like I cheated him out of his "potential" money _ My skills \| Mod/Rig stacknerfing explained

CCP Fear	Posted - 2007.01.11 09:17:00 - [16] Originally by: Zaribeth What if CCP added a ORE titan class mining vessel into eve. Capable of fitting 8 capital strip miner's. And a doomsday weapon that strips all the ore in a system in one go. Emptying it all into very large can's outside the titan. And the titan was capable of fitting some new warfare modules that doubles mining output of every barge in system. What if this was to happen'd :P Every carebear's dream. Would ofcourse make the market colapse :) Now i want one of those CCP, so that i can mine all the ore i need for a titan in a few days solo. Ok, so you want a Titan, to mine for a titan? hmmm... Can't you just use the Titan?

Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.01.11 09:51:00 - [17] IMO, as capital ships already exist, a capital mining lazer would be enough. But I doubt it will ever come.
Bangoura Minmatar	Posted - 2007.01.11 09:54:00 - [18] As already mentioned the only realistic prospect IMO is a capital sized mobile mining refinery. Other ships can dock at it to dump ore, it can refine while out in space, maybe gives gang bonus to mining yield. No high slots of it's own. Has to go into a siege type mode to do anything. Small ish cargo hold, huge refined mineral hold.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.01.11 10:11:00 - [19] Or maybe a fighter-sized mining drone? /me split his attention between the 2 concurrent threads for the same thing :S
Malcanis	Posted - 2007.01.11 10:37:00 - [20] Originally by: CCP Fear Originally by: Zaribeth What if CCP added a ORE titan class mining vessel into eve. Capable of fitting 8 capital strip miner's. And a doomsday weapon that strips all the ore in a system in one go. Emptying it all into very large can's outside the titan. And the titan was capable of fitting some new warfare modules that doubles mining output of every barge in system. What if this was to happen'd :P Every carebear's dream. Would ofcourse make the market colapse :) Now i want one of those CCP, so that i can mine all the ore i need for a titan in a few days solo. Ok, so you want a Titan, to mine for a titan? hmmm... Can't you just use the Titan? Give a man a Titan and he can fly that Titan for a day; give him a Titan-class refinery and he can lose one every day!
Malcanis	Posted - 2007.01.11 10:42:00 - [21] Originally by: Kiyano Originally by: Aiyleena Iluvatar sure, why the heck have i then to search for the harvester skills.... i bet they drop from ORE agents... Who sells skills... could it be, NPC corps from empire? Why yes it is. Whats that you say? Boosters are illegal? well surely the skill for them must be too... I find it hard to believe they'd just be handing out the skill to use illegal substances in a 1.0. Funny enough, I picked up the Biology skillbook for 60K just before Xmas... I had no idea that boosters were actually going to be reintroduced, I just wanted it as a collectors item so to speak.
Ryuga VonRhaiden Global Isk Network Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.01.11 10:45:00 - [22] actually, a "mining carrier" (based on the smaller designs) with mining support bonuses, and "mining fighters" (with approximatelly the shape and stats of a bantam) would be quite a nice addition :)
MysticNZ Solstice Systems Development Concourse The Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2007.01.11 10:48:00 - [23] I'm not a miner, I hate mining, but I think cap mining ships should be added. Imagine killing lots of those -=====-
Zaribeth Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.11 11:31:00 - [24] My logic is wierd, just ask wierd beard or anyone else in Fix :P I wonder what they are gona be like the ore capital ships they are going to add :) -------FIX-------
Osiris Warp E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.11 11:47:00 - [25] NO ORE CAP SHIP lolz we dont want FIX getting more ore....actually i take that back if they have more ships we can fight more YAY =) hehe lol but on a serious note I think CCP have said when/if they release a capital class ship it wont directly mine itself they aint said much more than that but i would assume it would be a gang orientated thing maybe to collect or and give out bonus's or something maybe even a mobile refinery that will turn ore into minerals automaticly. Something like that so you cant just mine by urself you need a few friends to do it =) wich is wat mining is all about lol. Its so boring other wise =( Cheers Osiris Warp "ACHTUNG! Osiris Warp may actually be a spider-human hybrid
Aphotic Raven Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.11 11:56:00 - [26] Edited by: Aphotic Raven on 11/01/2007 11:59:12 Originally by: Zaribeth This was meant as a joke thread, so keep it ontopic please. TONIGHT; ON 60 MINUTES: WHEN MINERS GET CARRIERS. THE TRUE HORROR REVEALED. The real joke is that FIX do use carriers to mine... i see it everyday... in a system with a station... ED- but its not limited to that system.. if you can see it on scanner.. its probably in a belt. (until a small gang of hostiles arrives, then its off to the station or the POS for some hiding). And i like the idea of an ore capital a lot. Just make sure it has to be in a belt... carriers sitting in pos's is laaaame... and its been the standard for a long time to drop a pos simply for somewhere to hide when you attack/move into a system. Make it sit still too... prealigns ftl. Other than that.. gang bonus's and lots of them... hell even give some bonus's to resistances of gang members in the belt with it (or in a fleet with it... i'd love a capital dedicated to direct fleet support (carrier fails at this at present)... a real front line fighter...) Also there are dreads and carriers... different roles but both crucial to their role... perhaps multiple cap ships? im not sure how possible it is but if it were to be titan size i'd like the thing to be a mobile outpost essentially...
Ralus eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.11 12:20:00 - [27] hot of the press from the latest dev blog if anyone looked at it... Quote: And talking about capital ships, the rumour is that ORE have one in the works. Unofficial sources state that it's not a miner per se, but is something every industrialist wants to have in his backyard.
LeisureSuit Lisa	Posted - 2007.01.11 12:22:00 - [28] A little something that actually would be a very nice idea: CCP wants "small gangs" to be able to have some goals and to do strategic damage to the enemy. Well, a little variation from your Mining Titan Doomsday device might in fact be a nice idea - High/Low frequency soundwave emitter You anchor 3-5 these to an asteroid belt and they will slowly start to pop asteroids inside their area of effect, making that asteroid belt unusable for mining. And behold - now you have a new way to inflict damage to enemy.
Roshan longshot Gallente Ordos Humanitas	Posted - 2007.01.11 12:34:00 - [29] And a minning Dread in amarr space is not enough for you? Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter *pirate* or mixture of them all. [i]As read from the original box.
Justin Mathers	Posted - 2007.01.11 13:05:00 - [30] I actually don't want to see a capital mining laser.. A capital ship that has a refinery on board, now that is something worth getting.. A carrier that pilots can dump ore into and refine in system. Mining fighters.. Hmmm.. interesting idea.. If they were to release a capital mining laser, I would hope that it would only work on the low end ore.. encourage people to mine lower end ore in 0.0 space.. i.e. Capital Strip Miner. 1000% bonus to Veldspare, Plag, and Scordite
Marlenus Caldari Ironfleet Towing And Salvage	Posted - 2007.01.11 13:59:00 - [31] One possible ability for a capital mining ship: The ability to eject and scoop very large cans for mining into by corpmates or others. Lots of room to balance this. Can could be anything from jetcan sized on up to General Freight Container sized. To avoid having the mining ship be more valuable for other non-mining logistics, the cans should probably be ore-only. Open question whether they should be anchorable and/or password protected. Personally I hope the mining ship is "capital" like the freighter, using jumpgates and being available in empire. I'm afraid it will be implemented as just another 0.0 queen, never seen by Empire players nor available to them even as an aspiration.
Alexi Borizkova Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2007.01.11 14:14:00 - [32] I just want to see an end to the madness of using carriers as glorified haulers due to the jump drive. Just admit people want and need jump driving haulers and slap one in. The capital ORE is perfect. i like deploying gigantic mining containers, and being able to haul them too. I've always been partial to pre-processing on a ship as well. (Basically just cut out some of the dross, change the ore to half m3 voume). i just hate seeing war ships used for industry.... the mining apoc was replaced by the t1 and t2 barges for the most part, let's see the hauling carriers go that way as well. As for other things industrial but not mining capitals could do: Eat ore and produce pre-fitted combat ships in two sizes (frig and cruiser) that can't go through stargates, die after a specified amount of usage, and could be "cooked up" as local defenses, and better allow you to "feed off the enemy" by using the ore in their temporarily held territory to bolster local defenses, pair up with a mothership or titan, and keep people from flying back thirty jumps for a replacement ship when something simple and sub par on hand will do. Some logistics capitals might be fun as well. As is, a carrier can easily carry a tower that candeploy it's nifty bubble... why not cut out hte middle man and allow a capital that can deploy, start eating fuel, and deploy a POS style forcefield, but have better built in resources (like a deployed expanding maintenence array and hangar array) to basically set up a froward base of operations in, say, an hour that has the functionality of a 1 1/2 hour setup POS and be torn down much quicker.
Merovee Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2007.01.11 15:08:00 - [33] Stupid idealow end mining for empire will be harder as prices crash due to over supply. What would be nice is having a mining drone bay added to ore ships besides the combat drone bay.
Altaree Gallente Red Frog Investments Daikoku Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.11 15:16:00 - [34] You all know that chirrba needed to change his short right after reading this title, right?
Lysit Kaune Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2007.01.11 15:27:00 - [35] The Annex 6 x High Slot 5 x Med Slot 4 x Low Slot 3xRig, no turret/launcher Hard points 99% Reduction in Mining Foreman Links CPU, 99% Reduction in Refining Array CPU, 99% Reduction in Docking Port Array. (When anchored) Mining Link 5% bonus per level, +1 Fighter per level (Can use Warden class only). Capacity: 50,000 (?) Cannot scoop cans. Cannot deploy/operate Warden's or operate refinery when unachored. (Takes 10 mins to anchor/unancore). ---- Docking Port Array, allows ships with docking hardpoint module (High CPU req to limit to Industrials, mostly) to dock and transfer into/out of cargo hold. Warden class fighter works similar to carrier fighters except they cannot warp, are slower, but there weapons are akin to sentry drones (So purely defensive in nature). ------- Thats pretty much how I'd see a ORE Capital, without going into grid, cpu, shield etc specifics.
Illuminaty ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.11 18:08:00 - [36] Capital Mining Laser: Requires the ship to activate a 'siege' type module that locks it down for several minutes, and maybe uses some sort of fuel. Only works on Veldspar and Scordite rocks, but rips through them at a super fast rate. Designed to rip those planetoid sized veldspar and scordite rocks in deep 0.0 space. Maybe have a drawback where the mining laser causes 'damage' to the roid size of nearby higher grade roids. Maximum results would be mining barges strip the high ends, and the capital then strips the low ends. Mining 'fighters': Can not be assigned to barges or industrials. Can not warp. Mining 'fighters' would allow people to fly combat capable ships to mining ops and still participate in the mining. Instead of mining ops consisting of one tanker and everyone else crossing their fingers that they don't get attacked. Now the attackers have to worry about attacking the op and dealing with a reasonable sized gang of fully fitted combat ships looking to defend the locked down ORE capital ship.

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