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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.28 23:08:54 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:When was the state brought up?
Kimmie just wants to make sure everyone knows that fighting for the Tribes means she'll say mean things about them on the IGS while she sends imaginary assassination squads into Heimatar. |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1671
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Posted - 2015.11.28 23:58:07 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Your saying that you did something that happens daily by people incliding myself and her i think (dont know what goons do with "pows" for lack of a better name since half their wars i dont get) to prove someone was a liar. The imaginary hit squad thing I didn't really get honestly...
We don't shoot or capture baseliner lifeboats - crew who survive are free to go.
As for the 'imaginary hit squads'... it was a reference to:
Diana Kim wrote: or even their own high security space
Kimbelina there is basically claiming that the Caldari State will hunt down TLF members in the Republic's sovereign space, outside of the sanctioned combat zone, in direct violation of the Yulai Accords.
Edit to add: Also, what don't you get about our wars? I'd be happy to explain. |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.29 00:28:20 -
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Quote:Glad to hear that about baseliners, and thanks for the clarification. As far as the majority of them, aside from the fountain war, the war with BOB, and all the other well known ones, half the ones I know of just seemed like "team A was bored so they invaded team b," like what was the point of the fights with Black Legion last year (had a few battles but the battle of I think it was CCP-US, where cfc lost one capital class ship and Black Legion lost like 3, only reason I remember it was because I was in a claw for it)? Probably part of the "line members don't need to know everything" thing which I can't say I don't understand. It's just from the outside looking in in hind sight, what was the point?
For the most part, our wars (other than Fountain) have been defensive in nature over the last few years. When we went to war with Northern Coalition. in Tribute three years ago, it was in response to a treaty violation where they attacked our Technetium moons.
The next war after that was Fountain, which was due to economic necessity - and we'd tried to avoid it by cutting a deal with TEST, but they double-crossed us on the deal, which left us few options and little incentive to find more. After that came the Halloween War, where NCdot attacked our allies in SOLAR FLEET and we came to their aid, and then we've spent the last year and a half fending off periodic attacks on Delve, then Fountain, and most recently, Pure Blind.
As a result, we've decided to stop being reactive, and instead to actively engage our enemies out here. If space is going to be set ablaze, it'll be theirs, not ours. And as they have a reasonable portion of their wealth tied up in lowsec moon harvesting, well, that gets to burn, as well.
As for the action last year in YA0, CCP, and other parts of Deklein, well... when CONCORD announced the new jump safety systems that were going in, it seems some of our enemies decided they had no reason not to suicide their capital ships. It's not a route I'd have chosen, but... when they attacked, we defended. We lost a fair number of battleships during one such encounter, but overall, held our own reasonably well. . . other than the one titan that died because the pilot accidentally shut down the defensive systems at the wrong moment.
((pilot shuts down boosts, titan shields go negative, game decides 'that can't exist!' and blows it up. Pretty damned hilarious.)) |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.29 01:23:38 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Only an ignorant would claim that hunting TLF members in any space is a violation of the "Yulai Accords", since the Protectorate and TLF are in CONCORD-sanctioned WAR, and killing them right in the Pator wouldn't attract neither CONCORD retaliatory force, nor would even mark you as a suspect.
Arrendiot, your place is not in the Intergalactic Summit, but in the rookie chat. They will teach you about Concord-sanctioned wars and rules of engagement.
Sorry there, El Kimino, but according to your claim:
El Kimino wrote: Every enemy will be hunted down, stalked and eliminated, whenever they would try to hide from Caldari justice, would it be low security space, null security space or even their own high security space. Nobody will evade the Caldari wrath and everybody will pay what is due!
Even a pilot who leaves the TLF and is no longer with the militia 'will be hunted down' - otherwise, they'd 'evade the Caldari wrath' and not 'pay what is due'.
And really, you're still working on the first name? Still haven't come up with so much as a second shot? Weak. |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1674
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Posted - 2015.11.29 01:48:25 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Air in this..... Head?
She's better than you at this, Kimbuktu. |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1675
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Posted - 2015.11.29 02:52:07 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:And this is why the CVA must be destroyed! Don't you agree, Harerendis?
Mmmm, I dunno about destroyed, but I'd certainly get a giggle out of seeing CVA set upon by the reclaimers. |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.29 04:54:51 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:You don't like burning provi, arsondis?
Eh, it's not a thing to me, really. It was a good way to learn the new warfare-style, but really, they've never done anything to us, and they're pretty far from home. |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.29 16:52:00 -
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Trii Seo wrote:Careful, citizen... those are seditious words I hear!
Even knowing it's a joke... hardly. We've much closer fish to bone.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1682
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Posted - 2015.11.30 15:47:42 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Alizabeth Vea wrote:The Amarr militia is odd. Their idea of small gang is about five ships, not fifty. And they look at me funny when I bring an Oneiros. Welcome to privateer land. Our idea of 'small' actually means 'small'. It's time to get unspoiled from all those times you spent in null.
Alternately, we could send SMA over to help the TLF and EXE to the 24IC... |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.30 16:02:03 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Anyanka Funk wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Alizabeth Vea wrote:The Amarr militia is odd. Their idea of small gang is about five ships, not fifty. And they look at me funny when I bring an Oneiros. Welcome to privateer land. Our idea of 'small' actually means 'small'. It's time to get unspoiled from all those times you spent in null. But that would mean she would actually have to learn to pilot a ship on her own without any orders. She's mainly a logi pilot right? Don't they have to be at least slightly competent, even on the massive block fleet level? They may not need to know how to spiral or orbit without assistance but they still have to know how to stay within a cap chain or maintain distances with their fleet and the opponents fleet. Not exactly a novice friendly position if you ask me...
Alizabeth Vea is one of the most capable logistics pilots and anchors that I've ever had the pleasure of working with - and for. In addition to the personal piloting skills she displayed in the Succession Trials, she's proven herself able to maintain her cool and keep the pilots under her direction focused and effective in prolonged, heavy fighting. There are very few people I'd trust to watch over me as readily. She's probably one of the top five in the cluster at what we do. |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.30 16:04:25 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Arrendis wrote:Alternately, we could send SMA over to help the TLF and EXE to the 24IC... Well..... We wouldn't want EXE to have the joys of a deployment, logistics, moving caps, ect. They don't have to go for the 24ic, if they really wanna go, they could do a joint deployment with SMA to the TLF...
Then how would we cheaply supply Imperial Navy Remote Capacitor Transmitters? |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.30 16:07:32 -
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Do AmarrMil pilots often carry them? |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.30 16:15:25 -
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given the number of them we'd need to be comfortable mandating their use, we'd really need a more direct supply line. And, while the Republic Fleet has some rather nice toys of their own, unfortunately the one really useful thing for us has been supplanted by developments in the Great Wildlands. With the Thukkers putting their own shield extenders on the market, and outperforming the signature reduction on the Republic version... well, once we get adequate sourcing there, those are clearly the superior choice. It's why I use them on Thundersaint. |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.11.30 16:47:57 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Well.... Can't say I didn't try.
I think my personal preference on the matter is pretty solidly established by now... but yeah, supply issues aside, I'd really love a two-month 'we are all MinFac now' deployment.
It might make it a little difficult to keep our stockpiles in Amarr tended, but eh, that's what cut-out and shell corps are for.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1699
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Posted - 2015.12.03 01:44:46 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Just so you know, we do not just toss bodies onto the side of a plateau. There are rituals to put the spirit to rest, a moment of silence and other things.
And we don't toss them. We're Sebiestor for crying out loud...
... we use home-made catapults. |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.12.03 05:42:03 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Not helping.
We actually just laid them on top of the plateau on a flat surface, either a man-made pedestal or a natural-occurring flat boulder.
Then after all the rituals are done, we leave the corpses to the corovids.
At least that's how it's done on Matar. In my hometown, the practice is still the same we leave the corpse to the slave hounds or some other scavenger or animals with scavenging habits. There are no corovids on Skarkon II.
C'mon, you really think she's going to listen to the truth? Just let her keep her bigoted notions - she's no more our friend than her erstwhile idol, Nauplius.
But as actual funerary proceedings go? There are even fewer scavengers on stations - but for us, the immediate family accompanies the dead to the surface. I haven't had the misfortune yet - my grandparents died before I was born, and my uncles are either alive, or in the State and not telling us if he's dead. I assume Cailyn would get in touch, though. |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1700
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Posted - 2015.12.03 13:28:54 -
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Tamiroth wrote:That's unhealthy and outright scary. I had no idea that the Minmatar do this... Thought they either bury or burn their dead, like most civilized people do. And what if there's a plague?
...People are weird.
Burying the dead only limits which scavengers get the remains. And burning... that's supposed to be civilized? There's energy bound up in your meat - no mysticism there, either, I'm talking pure caloric content. It's going to be released one way or another. Life itself is a process by which chemical compounds are broken down and converted into waste heat, with the (for us) useful side-effect of fueling self-propagating organisms. Burning the body only streamlines the process, efficiently producing heat, with none of the side effects we rely on.
As for diseases, that's been answered already. It's not like we do this stuff in the middle of population centers and invite all the vermin in town. |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1700
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Posted - 2015.12.03 14:29:16 -
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Tamiroth wrote:Hm, won't technically using one's ashes as organic fertilizer also count as "fueling self-propagating organisms" and/or "return to nature"?
The ashes have already had most of the calories consumed - that's what fueled the fire that reduced them to ashes, after all. The more efficiently you convert complex organic molecules to carbon and released energy, the less effective the results are for.. well, more or less anything but being carbon. To nurse the maximum return from the energy stored in the molecular bonding, you want as inefficient a process as is feasible, and when it comes to energy release, chemical corrosion (ie: cellular digestion) is about the break-even point. For maximum 'how much life do you get from X molecules', you probably want anaerobic life, but then you don't get complex forms, and for our purposes as a species... we're kinda biased toward complex forms. |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1701
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Posted - 2015.12.03 20:14:43 -
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Might I request that, since it exists, this discussion be moved to the thread about funerary practices? Just so people know where to look for it. |

Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.12.03 23:35:30 -
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Valerie Valate wrote:Those Wacky 24th Imperial Crusaders.
Wacky? Or whacky? How often do they run around slapping one another? |
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