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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.12 14:22:00 -
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From the OP:
I just think all the other races are finally seeing how much fun it is being Minmatar and are trying to compensate
QFT.
This is such a depressing thread to read.
Flying Minmatar is skill-intensive enough as it is. Now because a few folks fail to adapt or try different tactics the cry goes out "nerf this-nerf that".
For the record...I don't fly BB's and have no wish to.
But..nano-whatever's die too regardless of fittings. It just takes teamwork and skill to do it-and chasing away either is as good as a kill. Props to the guys who trained the skills to fly the things in the first place. And at ludicrous speed it is NOT easy to keep guns/NOS on target before zooming out of range is it? And when they land within a bubble filled with webs/scram points they go poof pretty quick 
The nano's/istabs allow my Rifter-Stabber-Rupture- Cyclone a chance to get into 7.5km scram/web range and tightly orbit the target sticking 2 pts/web to it while using a NOS (or 2) to help keep cap-intensive mods running and cause more headaches (cap drain) for the target. In return I sacrifice my limited ability to tank armor/shield and rely on speed (and well-trained NAV skills) to mitigate damage.
The same nano/istabs also allow our zippy duct-taped ships to align on a dime and get into warp quick as well as having a reasonable chance to escape bubbles.
These mods reward the pilot who invests significant SP in the Navigation skills just as you missile/drone spammers get rewards for training those skills..right? Missiles that never miss..drones...I cringe when I see drones heading towards me....especially when I have only targets/gates enabled on my overview.
And...I really enjoy being able to hit speeds in excess of 3km/s in a Rifter and >2km/s in a Stabber for that special feeling of zoom zoom  
Adapt or die...nothing is fair!
p.s. Someone mentioned cruisers are redundant now as screens for the heavies/anti-frigate support. You are wrong 
p.p.s. Leave NOS alone too. It is..again..sacrificing one thing (damage ability) for another (sucking your cap dry).
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.12 15:01:00 -
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Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 12/01/2007 15:00:41
Originally by: Galen Silas
Exactly what kind of a tactic is sticking about 18km from your target and leaving it as just that, not everyone fits a MWD dude, and that was something i tried but due to his agility and the speed he had i couldnt get out of his range.
You say it's a tactic, it's a coward manuever , rant rant whinge moan etc etc random threats
Consider:
1-Good tactics do NOT equal cowardice 2-Perhaps train MWD/nav skills? 3-EvE encourages team play and adaptation...try it-it works! 4-Forgive me for asking this...but are not Astarte's command-type ships designed to enhance a gang? If I am wrong here..never mind point 4.
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.13 12:01:00 -
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While I have enjoyed reading most of the productive arguements on this thread it really is starting to remind me of watching my dog chase her tail 
My summary take:
-It affects mainly solo pilots. I could care less as I like to fly as part of a team. If I really want to fly solo and enjoy realistic ACM I'll boot up IL-2 or something similar.
-It's a niche speciality with known counters.
-It costs a bomb to build and a ton of time invested in SP to fly properly. If you got the time and the dosh...enjoy. Also-this makes them a relatively rare type of ship to encounter. I think I have seen a couple in my neck of 0.0....Vagabonds are a far more common sight-and I cannot wait to fly one of those 
-It would be interesting to see actual statistics of nano-whatever kills versus defeats aside from anecdotal evidence to prove one way or the other. Not that it's going to happen (or is even possible to determine) and you can't point at killboards as losses are...shall we say..misrepresented 
-Interestingly enough a modern US Navy aircraft carrier is more than capable of outrunning the majority of existing ships large and small. Is there such a thing as a nano-carrier/dread? Size/mass does not always mean slow.
I'll caveat my post by stating I am a small ship specialist (with the odd foray into a BC to support major fleet ops). Please leave my nano-inty's, nano-Stabbers, nano-Ruptures, and nano/istab/OD-Rifters alone please. I trained my NAV/ENG skills quite hard to be able to fly them effectively with the tools provided within the game.
p.s. Solo combat in EvE really is a suckers game. If you can pull it off...power to you.
p.p.s. Blob is a slight misnomer. It can be used to describe a gank squad of random ships of varying types-or-a fleet of tightly knit support/heavy support/BB's acting as one unit-more commonly known as a fleet. It just looks like a blob as there is no flat surface in space 
p.p.p.s. I'm still laughing at the solo Astarte pilot-what is the point of doing that? 
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