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rubico1337 Caldari Nova Defense Industries	Posted - 2007.01.12 02:36:00 - [1] yes, this can certainly be abused for griefing. in light of that it would only go into effect if a player is in a starter corp for over 3 conceutive months, this would not affect noobs but would affect the farmers. Originally by: Blind Man okies so liek when u warp in on them u shod target them... and stuff k.then u FIRE ZE MISSILES and use your heavy nos cause it drain their cap then u click the jhammer and dampenener
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.12 03:49:00 - [2] you mean decrease right? other wise that makes no sense at all Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
Lost Ninja Incessant-Logic's Friendly Society	Posted - 2007.01.12 07:10:00 - [3] No he means increase, so he can gank macroers in high sec without concord turning up to kill him.
Korbann Ryder Interstellar Fuel Services	Posted - 2007.01.12 07:41:00 - [4] Originally by: Lost Ninja No he means increase, so he can gank macroers in high sec without concord turning up to kill him. Say again? That sentence makes no sense whatsoever. To OP: You realize concord response time is already like half a second?
Lost Ninja Incessant-Logic's Friendly Society	Posted - 2007.01.12 11:35:00 - [5] I fail to see why its so hard to understand.... Curreently if he attacks a macroer in Hi Sec concord turn up and blow him away in half a second. He wants the response time of concord to be increased, made longer, so that when he shoots someone in hi sec he can get away before concord turn up. Bad idea anyway IMO it'd just be idiots ganking newbies then.
Fraszoid Caldari Intergalactic Mining	Posted - 2007.01.12 16:04:00 - [6] Being you want the CONDORD response time increased by 50%, and I know from experience that CONCORD will be there faster than you can blink, or .5 seconds, you will get a response time of .75 seconds. You still are only going to get 1 volley off before losing you ship, and still have no chance of escape. Besides, if you can't kill a macro in 1 volley with your ship, you're doing something really wrong. Everyone is born right handed, only the great over come it. Check out my players guide at: http://www.eve-miners.info/guide/minersguide.html
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.12 16:37:00 - [7] Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 12/01/2007 16:33:23 50% increase on response time means no Macro Miners Get Shot 50% decrease means pew pew you silly math majors Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin Marcus Thinks Eve who knew!?
Reggie Stoneloader eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.12 23:37:00 - [8] Originally by: Marcus TheMartin Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 12/01/2007 16:33:23 50% increase on response time means no Macro Miners Get Shot 50% decrease means pew pew you silly math majors Increase in time = Increase in delay = more time to shoot before getting concordokkened Semantics have ruined this thread. But it was said above that if you can't gank your target with your alpha strike, you're not tough enough to be harvesting strip miners from macros. It's just that simple. Turn down the suck.
rubico1337 Caldari Nova Defense Industries	Posted - 2007.01.13 00:27:00 - [9] Originally by: Fraszoid Being you want the CONDORD response time increased by 50%, and I know from experience that CONCORD will be there faster than you can blink, or .5 seconds, you will get a response time of .75 seconds. You still are only going to get 1 volley off before losing you ship, and still have no chance of escape. Besides, if you can't kill a macro in 1 volley with your ship, you're doing something really wrong. no actually, concord response time in highsec ranges from 10-17 secs depending on security status. im not trying to get away from concord thats an exploit, but to kill them before i die. right now the only real action one can take to help stop them is to petition, but this never works. i petition all day and then 6 month later they are still logging on. the only way to decrease thier profit margin is to gank. if concord took more time to get to the location then it would be easier for the reguar player to kill them sucessfully. Originally by: Blind Man okies so liek when u warp in on them u shod target them... and stuff k.then u FIRE ZE MISSILES and use your heavy nos cause it drain their cap then u click the jhammer and dampenener
Jounin Tradoc Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.01.13 03:41:00 - [10] 10 - 17 seconds? Christ, where the hell are you ganking at? Remind me to stay away from there :P
CrestoftheStars Deviance Inc SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.13 06:30:00 - [11] Edited by: CrestoftheStars on 13/01/2007 06:31:00 wtf is wrong with you people? only action you can take is to patition... dohh YER!.. it is the GM's job to ban macro miners, what we need is more AKTIVE gm's, as in ddo, do i have a problem i will write a patition 2-5minuttes later i got the hold on a gm if it is anything like harassem, exploiding, stuck or other issues that should be taken care of immidiately... and in no way is it acceptable to be able to kill people in high sec... you shouldn't even be able to attack him without his premision... but onces again, if you give people the abillity to do something, they will misuse it and *****it... ___________________________________________ come on.. stop thinking about YOU. and start thinking about All of us... how do we get a more fun and enjoyable game for all of us.
Gnord	Posted - 2007.01.13 09:20:00 - [12] Macrominers keep mineral costs down.
rubico1337 Caldari Nova Defense Industries	Posted - 2007.01.13 09:30:00 - [13] Originally by: Gnord Macrominers keep mineral costs down. do you know where all that ISK is going? strait into the hands of ISK sellers, and thats a detriment to the economy. if you would look on a macro scale ass oposed to your own little box you can see the reprecussions Originally by: Blind Man okies so liek when u warp in on them u shod target them... and stuff k.then u FIRE ZE MISSILES and use your heavy nos cause it drain their cap then u click the jhammer and dampenener
rubico1337 Caldari Nova Defense Industries	Posted - 2007.01.13 09:32:00 - [14] Originally by: CrestoftheStars Edited by: CrestoftheStars on 13/01/2007 06:31:00 wtf is wrong with you people? only action you can take is to patition... dohh YER!.. it is the GM's job to ban macro miners, what we need is more AKTIVE gm's, as in ddo, do i have a problem i will write a patition 2-5minuttes later i got the hold on a gm if it is anything like harassem, exploiding, stuck or other issues that should be taken care of immidiately... and in no way is it acceptable to be able to kill people in high sec... you shouldn't even be able to attack him without his premision... but onces again, if you give people the abillity to do something, they will misuse it and ***it... FYI pititions RARELY do anything, ive pititiomed at least 20 off these as about 6 months ago, and at ANY given time 23/7 today when i log in they are all still on and active. CCP either doesnt want this problem solved or doesnt have the recouces to do so. its really up to the player base to stop it. and this would be an easy method. Originally by:** Blind Man okies so liek when u warp in on them u shod target them... and stuff k.then u FIRE ZE MISSILES and use your heavy nos cause it drain their cap then u click the jhammer and dampenener
Jounin Tradoc Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.01.13 20:05:00 - [15] Originally by: Gnord Macrominers keep mineral costs down. This is true. You've already seen what has happened to the price of Trit... However, Isk selling is nowhere near as bad for the market as T2; as Isk selling has a mitigating factor, while T2 is openly supported by the Devs.
Radix Salvilines Virtual Democracy Intergalactic Freelance Corporations	Posted - 2007.01.13 23:26:00 - [16] i have another idea :) If CCP can develop a system where when palyer reports macromining/emailing with RL miney ISK selling it gets standing with concord increased. The more standing u have to more time it gets for the concord to respond. Of course by attacking macrominers u get ss hits. If then after blowing them up and reporting what happened (and when gm's confirms that player's actions was just) then ss is being raised beyond the previous standing. If not concord then perhaps SCC. That could make a nice system to fight macrominers. Players fightng them would be rewarded in ss increases :) That of course hits the game plot by making a window to RL. Well we can just rename macrominers to pilots without license :D And it holds with the plot even if everyone knows what is really goining on :)
SentryRaven Chaos Faction	Posted - 2007.01.13 23:58:00 - [17] Why should the standings to DED or Concord increase when you report a macroer? Worst idea I have ever heard, people would start petitioning every noob corp ship in belts... If you have a LEGIT assumption that there is macro miners in a system, petition it. That's the only tool you have and SHOULD have. Dealing with Exploiters is not a playerbase issue, it's a game developers / game support / GM issue. Period. ---Signature--- Ship Idea: Small Freighters I am German. Please comment on the content of my post, not my spelling.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.01.14 19:06:00 - [18] I don't know where you live in EVE to see all this macrominers. But I suspect you are wrong most of the time. As was repeated more than once, sweatshops are legal (distasteful but legal), and in most instance those are sweatshops. At worst you can get them with the sharing account violation of the EULA. And some of your target are simply AFK mining players. With the right setup you will need to be there only 15 second every 6 minutes, so an human player can easily follow 4-5 accounts, one of them an hauler. I often mine with an account while brownsing market, fitting up ships or doing a miriad of thing, included moving that 100km between gates ina mission, on another. So most of your tests will make you think that I am a macro.
Dr Shameless Skull Soft The Sundering	Posted - 2007.01.14 21:26:00 - [19] maybe introduce something like 007 license to kill :) if someone has high security status and attacks something the concord doesnt arrive faster then: standard delay + attackers security status (in seconds) = concord response time
Thews Mortaza Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.01.15 04:50:00 - [20] Originally by: Gnord Macrominers keep mineral costs down. So did slavery, back in the day ... That aside, macro mining attaches a Euro/Pound/Dollar value on ISK by virtue of the connection to ISK selling. Believe it or not, this is actually a bad thing to have happen. As for the macro miner squads, I just identify them, locate them, and interfere with them. Every once and a while, I even get to pop a dumb one, (Sig) Your momma so fat ... when I tried to scoop her to my cargo hold, she don't fit !

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