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Qual
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Posted - 2007.01.12 14:43:00 -
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Its actually:
(lvl * 5%) * rig 1 bonus * rig 2 bonus
so
(5*5%) * 1.2 * 1.2 = 36.6%
vs.
(5*5%) * 1.4 = 35%
But your point is still valid. (You can verify the numbers by looking at the stats of the fitted module.)
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Qual
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Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.01.13 19:52:00 -
[2]
 Originally by: Gor Kraon
Its missing the Codebreaker bonus...
One would think so. But apparently thats not how it works. Look at the "Access Difficulty Bonus" on the fitted module. It fits my formula.
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Qual
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Posted - 2007.01.14 17:46:00 -
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Yeah, there is a lot more to than meets the eye.
I'm trying to figure it all out. One thing is sure though. Can's have diffenrent base hacking chance, on top of that they can have restrictions like "You need hacking lvl x to open this can".
What cans actually drop vs. whats in them also seems to be calculated.
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Qual
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Posted - 2007.01.16 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: HongHi Choi
So all in all, is hacking worth the enourmous training and trying time, or not?
Is training Medium Railgun Spec woth the time?
If you are a PvP player or agent runner, hell yeah!
If you are a trader or miner, not really.
If you want to be a serious explorer,its a must. If you wan' to fool around in a site or two, not so much.
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Qual
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Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.01.17 07:45:00 -
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Originally by: Gor Kraon
Based on these findings and reports from my corp mate actually hacking and using archeology, the percent chance you have is just to open it, and has little if anything to do with what you actually get from the can. He was pulling around 60% of the items with only a 20% chance to open. (This is assuming hacking and archeology are identical.)
Wrong. 'nuf said.
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Qual
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Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.01.17 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: Methinkstoomuch
Hm... so just to clarify, will multiple codebreakers help or will only the rigs stack? I wanted to set up a good hacking config but was never sure if 2 codebreakers were actually better than 1. I actually never thought of cargo scanning the loot can so that may be one mod I'll load. Nothing more frustrating though to get to a can, break in and... nothing. :-(
Codebreakers dont stack, but having two running will only help you get into the can faster. Wont help you on the loot table.
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Qual
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Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.01.19 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: SpaceSlag
Originally by: Qual
Codebreakers dont stack, but having two running will only help you get into the can faster. Wont help you on the loot table.
And where could one find such a table?
Somewhere in some deep vault at ccp. Actually its seems randomly setup for each can. So a can might look like this (theory, not fact!):
51.3% Some components
36.1% Interface bpc
19.3% Some components
8.3% Some skill
So first you have to hack the can. Here multiple modules will help you as you get more chances of succesfully get into the can. Once in the can, EvE will look at the can's loot table and decide what you actually get. Here extra modules dont give a bonus as they dont stack.
Here even the best possible setup would not get you the last components at 51.3% difficulty. Lvl V hacking and a T2 memetic rig would not get the Interface (35%), but lvl V hacking and 2 T1 memetic rigs (36.6%) would drop the Interface to you.
When you scan the can you will see all items on the loot list, even tough they might be impossible to get.
Mind you, this is still all theory, and there are unclear and enexplained stuff in this theory. On thing is that can's seemingly having a different base hacking difficulty, but its onclear if this only applies to getting into the can, and not to the loot table. Something like that is impossible to determine without extensive statistical material.
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Qual
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Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2007.01.28 22:45:00 -
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Edited by: Qual on 28/01/2007 22:44:22
Intresting! Goes aganst what a lot of people have experienced. Simply goes to show that statistics are a funny fish.
Well spotted.
And lol about the math. 
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