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Nooey Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.13 23:34:00 - [31] Nice post Crau, good to see you're still the open-minded leader I remembered you as. As I said earlier, best of luck with CYI's next steps.
Cipher7	Posted - 2007.01.13 23:35:00 - [32] RP is just the gravy that makes the game a little sweeter, puts a little more wind in your sail, gives you a REASON to fight. Otherwise the mechanics are exactly the same for both RP'ers and non-RP'ers.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.01.14 01:04:00 - [33] 'Leaving Roleplay' because of someone else's actions is a lousy thing to do, and it doesn't just fix things. It doesn't matter if someone has a bigger gun, they won't ever kill an idea or method of RP. So, now what do you do? Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Jack Malus Gallente Phoenix Wing Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.01.14 04:32:00 - [34] Edited by: Jack Malus on 14/01/2007 04:43:21 Originally by: Hardin I can remember when PIE was first formed - we were a spanking new corp - full of inexperienced players - and we were up against uber Oracle - full of beta veterans + a whole host of other Minnie 'terrorist' groups. We lost many fights and spent many hours being camped - which may not have been the most fun - but we stuck to our guns and if you do that then you earn respect - which in turn attracts more ironclad recruits... We're in our third war as a young corp and I'm finding this to be true in terms of attracting more solid recruits. ---
Ryoji Tanakama Caldari Daikoku Fleet Shipyards	Posted - 2007.01.14 05:08:00 - [35] Originally by: Crausaum Edited by: Crausaum on 13/01/2007 07:17:22 It is at this time that The Cyrene Initiative would like announce it's withdrawal from the EVE roleplay community. At this time we feel there is little future for Gallente roleplay under the current conditions and fail to see any possible rewards for continuing in the current state of affairs. Individual corporations inside Cyrene may at some point return to the roleplay community and the alliance as a whole may return someday should CCP see fit to provide entertaining content in the Gallente community. As it currently stands Cyrene pilots are underwhelmed by the roleplay available to us and with the effective subjugation of our Caldari counterparts our only roleplay available for the past months has been to engage in operations to open the trade lanes of Placid, as well as Syndicate chokepoints, for general use. As many of the EVE roleplay community know Cyrene is currently being warred upon by the forces of Intaki Union, The Star Fraction, The Sani Sabik, and Fatal Persuasion (The Black Rabbits). At this point we are so severely outnumbered in combat forces that we see no possibility of victory in the overall war and are unable to even engage in any meaningful battles due to the sheer size of the enemy forces arrayed against us. Surrender conditions supplied to us would effectively end our ability to roleplay in our chosen area and as such we have come to the conclusion that it would be more enjoyable to leave roleplay rather than to attempt to continue on in a crippled state. As a parting note we would like to say that after reviewing the forums at http://www.eve-chatsubo.com/ we would like to clear some of the blame that may fall upon Star Fraction and The Black Rabbits for our departure. We find that their reasons for entering the war would have been sound if not for the fact that Intaki Union fabricated much of the information that they based their war declarations on. To our knowledge at no point in our wars against Intaki Union and The Patriot Society did Cyrene gangs exceed 20 pilots and at no time did our battleship elements in these gangs exceed 8 vessels. The reports of 20 battleship gangs that motivated Star Fraction and allies into the war were fabricated by the leadership of Intaki Union to gain them support in a war that they had declared but were ultimately loosing desite enjoying equal fighting forces. In closing we would like to ask any remaining active Gallente roleplayers not to loose heart over our leaving the community and encourage them to continue to try to cultivate the Gallente storyline. Sadly our casual play style prevented us from investing the time needed to develop it but with some effort, and some assistance from Aurora, we are sure that the community will someday prosper. -The Cyrene Initiative Edit - I would like to add that the pro-roleplaying forces are for contining this war but unfortunatly Cyrene is not comprised entirely of roleplaying groups and we cannot in good faith suject our friends to a war that gains them nothing while costing them greatly. Your war with the Star Fraction can be ended on diplomatic terms. They are after your public formal surrender and will press you until they have it. All you have to do is open a dialog with them and discuss their terms.
Femfatally INTAKI UNION	Posted - 2007.01.14 15:17:00 - [36] Originally by: Crausaum Edited by: Crausaum on 14/01/2007 05:56:23 As a parting note we would like to say that after reviewing the forums at http://www.eve-chatsubo.com/ we would like to clear some of the blame that may fall upon Star Fraction and The Black Rabbits for our departure. We find that their reasons for entering the war would have been sound if not for the fact that Intaki Union fabricated much of the information that they based their war declarations on. To our knowledge at no point in our wars against Intaki Union and The Patriot Society did Cyrene gangs exceed 20 pilots and at no time did our battleship elements in these gangs exceed 8 vessels. The reports of 20 battleship gangs that motivated Star Fraction and allies into the war were fabricated by the leadership of Intaki Union to gain them support in a war that they had declared but were ultimately loosing desite enjoying equal fighting forces. I have fought with myself trying to convince myself not to reply to this topic as its just lame but... I feel that Intaki Union needs to straighten up this "parting note" You are stating that: 1 Intaki Union tricked Star Fraction and its allies into declaring war on you by giving false information, 2 That Star Fraction came to our aid because we are weak. This is a lie and just plain stupid. Let me start by stating that Star Fraction and Intaki Union committed to go to war on you long before Intaki UnionÆs war went active. So these supposed false accounts of your military strength had nothing to do with Star Fractions war dec on you. Secondly, there were no false reports of your strength or weakness. I believe that Star Fraction and Intaki Union are getting from this war exactly what we expected. (though I didnÆt expect the ôwe donÆt want to RP anymore lameness to be dropped by youö. On the Star Fraction coming to our aid because we are weak and loosing, I donÆt know where you are getting your statistics from but not counting POS assistance or Joint ops with Star Fraction and the others in the war, we are beating you solidly. Intaki Union didnÆt enter this war with the expectation of fighting it alone. Our losses provided excellent experience for us and your losses, well, your losses caused your membership to drop Femfatally CEO - Intaki Union . "When patience has begotten false estimates of its motives, when wrongs are pressed because it is believed they will be borne, resistance becomes morality" -- Ancient Freedom Fighter
Yarod Cool Team JAVELIN The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.01.14 16:23:00 - [37] Yes Femfatally, we know this war is a grudge match, and we also know that Star Fraction was already hanging around waiting to get into the fight. I think the frustration is evident in the OP. It would probably be best to let this thread die.
Jasmine Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.14 17:06:00 - [38] Originally by: Yarod Cool Yes Femfatally, we know this war is a grudge match, and we also know that Star Fraction was already hanging around waiting to get into the fight. I think the frustration is evident in the OP. It would probably be best to let this thread die. I think if you substitute "hanging around waiting to get into the fight" for "performing the neccessary logistics and intel tasks and making sure we had all the elements in place for a successful war" you'll be nearer the mark. Star Fraction is recruiting
Oica Gallente Red Eclipse Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.14 22:37:00 - [39] Im wondering why Star Fraction is allowing Intaki Union to take credit for everything they are doing. Before SF arrived, the war against intaki union was going VERY well. yet... Intaki union seems to think they were winning the whole time. (and btw, which opposing entity is going to take credit for all their losses?)
Tatsue Nuko Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.14 23:47:00 - [40] Oica, We're interested in results, not arguments over who shot how many and who ran how many times, and I do not believe there's been any cases of IU trying to take credit that is our due. Nice attempt at trying to split us, though. But just like last time you need to realize it's transparent.
Oica Gallente Red Eclipse Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.14 23:52:00 - [41] Edited by: Oica on 14/01/2007 23:51:12 I refer to their numerous IGS postings. Im not trying to do anything. Im asking a question i actually want to hear answered. Why is SF allowing IU to take credit for ALL of the kills, ALL of the "victories", and the kill of a small pos?
DarkNicodimus Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.01.15 00:51:00 - [42] Quote: On the Star Fraction coming to our aid because we are weak and loosing, I donÆt know where you are getting your statistics from but not counting POS assistance or Joint ops with Star Fraction and the others in the war, we are beating you solidly. Intaki Union didnÆt enter this war with the expectation of fighting it alone. Our losses provided excellent experience for us and your losses, well, your losses caused your membership to drop Femfatally CEO - Intaki Union Not sure were you get your stats from but your own board says 25 kills to 20 losses in your favor and our board says 29 kills and 24 losses in our favor. To make a statement saying your are beating us solidly once again shows how inaccurate your are.By all accounts you are not winning the war yourself vs CYI.Based solely on combat between IU and CYI your are losing. Infact i have not seen any IU in the stacom area since your Fleet was utterly destroyed on Tuesday Jan 2.That was the last time any IU fleet of any size has been seen by our night crew.That was a 10 on 10 fight were you guys lost everything As far as SF goes we have been engaging them everytime our PVP group has been on. Taking out the pod kills the stats are not that bad for us 12 kills to 17 losses as our board shows it.The statement that our losses caused our membership to drop,although true is not accurate.We lost a 15 man industrial corp because they got tired of your fighters targeting there industry ships. CYI has refrained from posting much, but because of the blatant inaccurate statements being made by some i could not hold back anymore
Freada Gallente Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.01.15 01:11:00 - [43] I was there at the creation of the Initiative. After my corporation left, the alliance went through many hard times not the least of which is short shift from CCP. I have followed your struggles after my move to 0.0 and while I understand your reasons for stopping it will be a dark day for what little is left of Gallente roleplay in the Eve universe if you do. GL guys
Bastables Amarr INTAKI UNION	Posted - 2007.01.15 08:17:00 - [44] Originally by: DarkNicodimus Quote: On the Star Fraction coming to our aid because we are weak and loosing, I don’t know where you are getting your statistics from but not counting POS assistance or Joint ops with Star Fraction and the others in the war, we are beating you solidly. Intaki Union didn’t enter this war with the expectation of fighting it alone. Our losses provided excellent experience for us and your losses, well, your losses caused your membership to drop Femfatally CEO - Intaki Union Not sure were you get your stats from but your own board says 25 kills to 20 losses in your favor and our board says 29 kills and 24 losses in our favor. To make a statement saying your are beating us solidly once again shows how inaccurate your are.By all accounts you are not winning the war yourself vs CYI.Based solely on combat between IU and CYI your are losing. Infact i have not seen any IU in the stacom area since your Fleet was utterly destroyed on Tuesday Jan 2.That was the last time any IU fleet of any size has been seen by our night crew.That was a 10 on 10 fight were you guys lost everything As far as SF goes we have been engaging them everytime our PVP group has been on. Taking out the pod kills the stats are not that bad for us 12 kills to 17 losses as our board shows it.The statement that our losses caused our membership to drop,although true is not accurate.We lost a 15 man industrial corp because they got tired of your fighters targeting there industry ships. CYI has refrained from posting much, but because of the blatant inaccurate statements being made by some i could not hold back anymore Very intresting as our boards show 34 kills to 20 losses as of this date. Be reclaimed, and be loved Signature removed due to incorrect size (400X120px and 24000 bytes). Please review the forum rules or e-mail us with any questions. You can view you signature here - Petwraith
DarkNicodimus Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.01.16 06:28:00 - [45] Well it not uncommon for pilots to miss recording a few deaths but our board shows 33 kills for us and only 26 losses Our board isnt edited like yours and actually shows who did what to who and who lost what to who.Doesnt surprise me that 33% of your deaths are mysteriously missing on your board CYI KILL BOARD
PYROPHIS Gallente INTAKI UNION	Posted - 2007.01.20 01:06:00 - [46] Originally by: DarkNicodimus Well it not uncommon for pilots to miss recording a few deaths but our board shows 33 kills for us and only 26 losses Our board isnt edited like yours and actually shows who did what to who and who lost what to who.Doesnt surprise me that 33% of your deaths are mysteriously missing on your board How about these?? missing from your board. Just what I found in a few minutes but then again there are a few on ours too. 2007.01.14 04:54 Victim: Midnightstalker Alliance: The Cyrene Initiative Corp: Ixion Defence Systems Destroyed: Megathron System: Cistuvaert Security: 1.0 Involved parties: Name: iupilot Security: 3.1 Alliance: NONE Corp: INTAKI UNION Ship: Caracal Weapon: Warrior I Destroyed items: Medium Shield Extender II Hammerhead I (Drone Bay) Power Diagnostic System II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay Radio M Shield Recharger II Nanomechanical CPU Enhancer I Large Armor Repairer II Miner I (Cargo) Power Diagnostic System I, Qty: 2 (Cargo) 2007.01.19 14:53 Victim: Brazzle Alliance: The Cyrene Initiative Corp: Knights of the Red Dawn Destroyed: Myrmidon System: Aunia Security: 0.8 Involved parties: Name: iupilot Security: 2.3 Alliance: NONE Corp: INTAKI UNION Ship: Hurricane Weapon: Warrior I Destroyed items: Medium Armor Repairer II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II Heavy Neutron Blaster II N-Type Explosive Hardener I Prototype I Sensor Booster Medium Nosferatu I Initiated Warp Jammer I Antimatter Charge M, Qty: 49 Antimatter Charge M, Qty: 50 Antimatter Charge M, Qty: 48 2007.01.13 08:04 Victim: Crausaum Alliance: The Cyrene Initiative Corp: Ixion Defence Systems Destroyed: Astarte System: Stacmon Security: 0.6 Involved parties: Name: Jasmine Constantine Security: 0.0 Alliance: The Star Fraction Corp: Jericho Fraction Ship: Hyperion Weapon: Hyperion Name: iupilot Security: 3.2 Alliance: NONE Corp: INTAKI UNION Ship: Typhoon Weapon: Garde I Destroyed items: Sensor Booster II Thorium Charge M, Qty: 406 (Cargo) Plutonium Charge M, Qty: 1000 (Cargo) 10MN Afterburner II 200mm Railgun II Medium Tapered Capacitor Infusion I Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Hammerhead II (Cargo) Hammerhead II (Cargo) Thorium Charge M, Qty: 61 Thorium Charge M, Qty: 61 2007.01.13 08:04 Victim: Dheen Heph Alliance: The Cyrene Initiative Corp: Ixion Defence Systems Destroyed: Dominix System: Stacmon Security: 0.6 Involved parties: Name: iupilot Security: 2.2 Alliance: NONE Corp: INTAKI UNION Ship: Armageddon Weapon: Wasp II Destroyed items: Fleeting Warp Scrambler I Hobgoblin II (Drone Bay) Valkyrie II (Drone Bay) Warrior II (Drone Bay) Warrior II (Drone Bay) Warrior II (Drone Bay) Valkyrie II (Drone Bay) Hammerhead II (Drone Bay) Medium Nosferatu II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Voltaic Nanite Explosive Hardener I Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Medium Nosferatu II Medium Nosferatu II Hammerhead II (Drone Bay) Voltaic Nanite Thermic Hardener I Microcell Nanite Kinetic Hardener I Berserker II (Drone Bay) Ogre II (Drone Bay) Berserker II (Drone Bay) Pyro
DarkNicodimus Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.01.20 02:47:00 - [47] The only kill missing on our board is the first one listed.You need to use the board properly and scoll through the weeks. Also why is your board now changed again and no longer shows the current war against us seperate.It did before but now your campaigns menu shows it as no campaigns active lol.Also your board includes kills from the previous war with us Total as of this date CYI 42 kills 32 losses against Intaki Union

Karass Sayfo Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.20 03:58:00 - [48] Just to remind people, that posting killmails and killboard links is not allowed. Please note : Originally by: CAOD Rules Killmails Posting killmails, killboard links or screenshots of killboards will be considered as trolling or off-topic, and subject to removal or warning. There will be no discussion allowed of privately run killboard issues/accuracies taking place in this forum. It has been proven that such discussions inevitably invite ill-spirited comments and off-topic issues. Also, please remain on-topic addressing the OP rather than killboard statistics. - Karass Sayfo _______ forum rules \| IGS rules \| COAD rules \| [email protected]

Crausaum Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.01.20 06:28:00 - [49] Final Update: After over a week of debate inside Cyrene it seems the final decision of Cyrere's direction has been left for me to state. Based upon some of the more useful comments in this thread I have come to the conclusion that Cyrene is too far into supposed roleplay to retract and that even if I did take the alliance as far afield as possible the new members would still suffer problems leftover from the alliances original objectives. It would also lead to a good portion of the command staff (including myself) seperating from Cyrene to persue our hopes for greater and more interesting Gallente roleplay. I feel this would harm Cyrene as much as any war and gain the new members a defunct alliance that they would have to cast off. Sadly I know this decision will distance some friends from me as they will leave for other corporations at the end of our wars but at this time this seems to be the best decision to keep the majority of the alliance together and focused. --------------------------- absit iniuria verbis
Nytemaster Mega-Deth Phoenix Supremacy	Posted - 2007.01.21 11:21:00 - [50] Good to see that you can't handle what you dish out. The same alliance who war dec'd a ten man corporation with 200 members three months ago is now crying about being outnumbered and overwhelmed to the point of surrender. When the tides are turned you now tuck tail. Maybe you could give us a bit more respect for what we do and not smack us so much because we would safespot with 10-1 odds against.
Crausaum Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.01.25 03:39:00 - [51] Originally by: Nytemaster Good to see that you can't handle what you dish out. The same alliance who war dec'd a ten man corporation with 200 members three months ago is now crying about being outnumbered and overwhelmed to the point of surrender. When the tides are turned you now tuck tail. Maybe you could give us a bit more respect for what we do and not smack us so much because we would safespot with 10-1 odds against. I really should be clear about this war, and I am sorry that I never made it clear why this war happened in the first place. This war happened simply due to the continued use of gate sniping and indecent smacktalk by a limited number of your members. Unfortunatly this war resulted in members of Cyrene using the same smack that enraged us so and ended with neither side having any moral high ground. All this war resulted in was suffering for those that were either too new to know any better or had not engaged in the offending smacktalk. You put up a fair fight for a group that had a peak force almost matched by the standard bored Cyrene combat pilots and the majority of your members were polite for the situation they were placed in. Ultimatly you used the best tactics available to you and in truth the only thing that I found annoying was certain pilots smacktalking from their safespot. Other members of Cyrene may have been more vocal about it but that's how I personally feel. I find the only real tradgedy of this war was that it showed that no matter how hard you try it only takes one 14 year old in a gang to get the entire gang smacking like a pack of drunken highschoolers. --------------------------- absit iniuria verbis

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