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Lucius Malvek	Posted - 2007.01.15 01:22:00 - [1] I know there aren't any novels set in the Eve universe, save for player-made entries on the web. What are some good Sci-Fi novels you could recommend that are in a similar vein to Eve-Online? Just something that has the same sort of atmosphere and feel to it. Again, not stuff on the web, I mean something I can buy at a bookstore :-)
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.15 01:27:00 - [2] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 15/01/2007 01:23:06 Iain M. Banks. Stephen Baxter. David Brin. Larry Niven. -[23] Member- Listen to EVE-Trance Radio! (DSTrance channel ingame)
ScreamingLord Sutch Hand in Mouth	Posted - 2007.01.15 01:27:00 - [3] Peter F Hamilton / Ian M Banks / Neil Asher. They arent full of pod pilots but it's sci-fi in a similar vein imo.
Lucius Malvek	Posted - 2007.01.15 05:42:00 - [4] Great, thank you. The Iain Banks Culture series looks very interesting.
Deious Troeyd Minmatar Harin Trust Associates	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:27:00 - [5] Banks and Hamilton are both awesome. Havn't read the others.
The Archimandrite AUS Corporation	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:39:00 - [6] The Culture novels by Iain M Banks are definitely excellent reading for EVE-Online fans. Another worthy book to read is "The Algebraist", which has pod pilots (of a sort.)
Katrina Coreli Soar Angelic	Posted - 2007.01.15 09:02:00 - [7] Adolf Huxly - A Brave new world is a *****er But for true scope its always goign to be Ian M Banks
James Snowscoran Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.15 09:18:00 - [8] Originally by: Lucius Malvek I know there aren't any novels set in the Eve universe, save for player-made entries on the web. What are some good Sci-Fi novels you could recommend that are in a similar vein to Eve-Online? Just something that has the same sort of atmosphere and feel to it. Again, not stuff on the web, I mean something I can buy at a bookstore :-) Just for the record, most of the chronicles, short stories and other prime fiction published on this website was made by the fiction devs, I know there's at least one guy who just writes stuff for CCP as a full-time job, plus one or more independents who are contracted from time to time for longer stories I believe. -----
Milaahs Nithori Amarr Yazata Spenta Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.01.15 09:56:00 - [9] Defiantly the Nights Dawn triology by Peter. F Hamilton. I read it while I was out traveling. Never missed EVE so much in my life, hehe. It's great sci-fi in every respect. ---------------------------------------
RuleoftheBone Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.15 09:56:00 - [10] Alastair Reynolds-"Revelation Space" novels. David Brin-"Uplift War" novels. Stephen R. Donaldson-"The Gap Cycle" novels. Dan Simmons-"The Hyperion" novels. And what DS recommended........
Spartaen	Posted - 2007.01.15 09:57:00 - [11] Originally by: Milaahs Nithori Defiantly the Nights Dawn triology by Peter. F Hamilton. I read it while I was out traveling. Never missed EVE so much in my life, hehe. It's great sci-fi in every respect. Night's Dawn trilogy > all.
Rollio Polleaous 20th Legion	Posted - 2007.01.15 10:19:00 - [12] Off at a slight tangent I picked up The Algebraist by banks recently, It's not culture but the writing is still top notch. I had no idea that it was published so it was a pleasant enough surpise when I found it.
Rollio Polleaous 20th Legion	Posted - 2007.01.15 10:19:00 - [13] Off at a slight tangent I picked up The Algebraist by banks recently, It's not culture but the writing is still top notch. I had no idea that it was published so it was a pleasant enough surpise when I found it.
Rollio Polleaous 20th Legion	Posted - 2007.01.15 10:19:00 - [14] Off at a slight tangent I picked up The Algebraist by banks recently, It's not culture but the writing is still top notch. I had no idea that it was published so it was a pleasant enough surpise when I found it.
Smagd Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.01.15 11:44:00 - [15] I'd like to recommend C. J. Cherryh's Alliance-Union Universe books. -- Thukkers do
Smagd Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.01.15 11:44:00 - [16] I'd like to recommend C. J. Cherryh's Alliance-Union Universe books. -- Thukkers do
Zwaplat Caldari Galactic Production Dynamics	Posted - 2007.01.15 11:50:00 - [17] Hyperion, without a doubt. I think CCP got a lot of inspiration from those books. Quote: -Ghoest- The danger in 0.0 should be pirates coming up on you while you are doing stuff, not pirates killing you everytime you knock on the door.
Zwaplat Caldari Galactic Production Dynamics	Posted - 2007.01.15 11:50:00 - [18] Hyperion, without a doubt. I think CCP got a lot of inspiration from those books. Quote: -Ghoest- The danger in 0.0 should be pirates coming up on you while you are doing stuff, not pirates killing you everytime you knock on the door.
Rimfaxe Minmatar Swedish Aerospace Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.15 12:06:00 - [19] Originally by: Spartaen Originally by: Milaahs Nithori Defiantly the Nights Dawn triology by Peter. F Hamilton. I read it while I was out traveling. Never missed EVE so much in my life, hehe. It's great sci-fi in every respect. Night's Dawn trilogy > all. Signed! PS: Alastair Reynolds-"Revelation Space" novels. DS.
RuleoftheBone Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.15 12:25:00 - [20] Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 15/01/2007 12:25:26 How dare I forget the masters: Issac Asimov-"Foundation Series" and Frank Herbert-"Dune Series"....the books by his son ain't bad and provide decent backstory to the originals but they smack a bit too much of commercialism. p.s. This is probably the most useful, fun, and interesting thread I have seen pop up in weeks
Twilight Moon Minmatar Malicious Intentions Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.15 12:33:00 - [21] Edited by: Twilight Moon on 15/01/2007 12:31:56 Anyone know if Ian M. Banks has another book in the works? I've read the lot. His fiction (under Ian Banks) is top quality stuff too, I'd reccommend people read that as well. Edit: Just realised it hasnt been mentioned. Joe Haldeman writes some good science fiction, in particular "The Forever War" is fantastic. (If you woke up breathing today, CONGRATULATIONS!, you get another chance!)
D'Mur Pilru	Posted - 2007.01.15 12:55:00 - [22] Lest we forgot Arthur C. Clarke, old but ever good. And Orson Scott Cards 'Ender' series rocks as well. (as does the side novel Enders Shadow) Hyperion has to be my all time favourite.../me makes a note to read those again soon :) And I really liked Brian Herberts preludes to Dune, both Butlerian and Battle of Corinth. They read like a train... funny side note, D'Mur Pilru is actually a member of the Spacing Guild :)
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.01.15 13:15:00 - [23] Those which are closest to the "feeling" of EVE are IMO Alastair Reynolds novels. The technology/universe is vastely different (no real FTL travel, for example), but it has a similar "dark sci-fi" flair. Other good sci-fi authors are, as has been mentioned already Dan Simmons "Hyperion"/"Endymion" Cantos (IMO best sci-fi saga around) Peter F. Hamiltons "Nights Dawn" trilogy (but avoid "misspend youth" from him by all costs) Iain Banks culture novels (do not miss "the algebraist" and especially "against a dark background", though) Neal Ashers "Polity" books (a bit of a copycat of Banks, but still good)
Maestro Ulv Phaze-9	Posted - 2007.01.15 14:20:00 - [24] Originally by: RuleoftheBone Alastair Reynolds-"Revelation Space" novels. Highly in agreement with that, also Neal Ashers "Polity" series I'm not bored, I'm merely in the Queue.

Eris Discordia	Posted - 2007.01.15 14:31:00 - [25] Mentioned here before but I second the Gap cycle. It's one of the best series I have read in years. Thanks to other devs who recommended it to me I can recommend it to you The start: Morn Hyland, an ensign with the United Mining Companies Police, is on her first mission aboard the UMCP destroyer Starmaster. When they arrive at Com-Mine Station, a ship, Bright Beauty, piloted by the pirate Angus Thermopyle, flees, and Starmaster follows. Witnessing Angus slaughtering a small mining settlement. Starmaster attempts combat, but is almost destroyed by a massive internal explosion. The who and why you'd have to read yourself but there are some nice twists in all of the books. Why is this signature pink? It is a mystery

Joerd Toastius Octavian Vanguard	Posted - 2007.01.15 14:40:00 - [26] Backing up what other people have said, Iain M Banks (make sure you get the M), Hamilton, Asimov, Clarke and Scott Card are definitely worth reading, as is the original Dune. I've never managed to get into the Dune sequels. Greg Bear's also done some good stuff, and Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars series is awesome if you like serious science (or pseudo-science, albeit of the extremely well thought-out variety) in your reading. I'd also suggest in a slightly different vein William Gibson. And... I tried Baxter, specifically Manifold: Time, and thought it was terrible. Shoot me.
RuleoftheBone Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.15 14:55:00 - [27] Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 15/01/2007 14:55:58 Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 15/01/2007 14:53:18 Morn Hyland-Carebear Angus Thermopyle-Total yarrrr a.k.a "Angus Thermo-pile"...... Stephen Donaldson does love his anti-heros. Read the ultimate Tolkien-killer "The Chronicles Of Thomas Covenant" (no squishy little hobbits, annoying talking trees, and especially NO BLOODY ELVES. SD does owe a debt to dear old JRRT as do all fantasy writers-but we are talking fast-food to filet mignon literary comparisons here). To put it another way--if you think "Eragon" (not bad if you like candy and more &^$^úing elves) and "Harry Potter" (blatant theft of Roald Dahl's legacy..fun reads though) are the uber...you will HATE Stephen R Donaldson. Another amazing author worthy of your attention: Neal Stephenson. Start with "Snow Crash" and "Diamond Age"....trip into "Cryptonomicron"...and prepare for the monster "Baroque Cycle". Not exactly EvE-related...but this cat will leave you with a completely melted brain This message brought to you by a supporter of the old "Reading Is FUNdenemtal and darn good for you too" program p.s. Votes for a sticky somewhere. Books of any type are good and all the recommendations thus far would..I suspect...be well enjoyed by the EvE-player base.
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.01.15 14:56:00 - [28] David Weber - Honor Harrington series Battles very much like battleship/fleets clashs in Eve, lots of political schemes, charismatic characters. Simply the Best, imho. The first two volumes are alaivable for free on html format Here. ------------------------------------------ Every ship has a base 60-70% resist against the primary damage type of the race that is the least able to vary it's damage types.
La Tortura Infinite Style Incorporated Chorus of Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.15 14:59:00 - [29] Ken Macleod Cosmonauts Keep and The Fall Revolution series -- ignorance is bliss
Anell Minmatar	Posted - 2007.01.15 15:02:00 - [30] I want to second Frank Herbert's "Dune" as my favorite book of all time. I would also second Joe Haldeman "The Forever War" But I'm surprised no one has mentioned Robert Heinlein yet. Check out "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" and "Starship Troopers" (better then the movie by far). I mean when going for scifi its safe to stick with a man so famous he has a crater on Mars named after him. Also a big fan of Niel Stephenson and his books starting with "Snow Crash." In summary go: Dune, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Starship Troopers, The Forever War, Snow Crash.
Rana Ash Minmatar Aeon Trinity	Posted - 2007.01.15 15:08:00 - [31] Vatta's War, by Elizabeth Moon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatta's_War ¦on Trinity is recruting, inquire within for details lyret dedreen

Ivan Kirilenkov Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.15 15:11:00 - [32] Alastair Reynolds has been mentioned many times, but since he's the one responsible for me returning from a break from Eve, I'll blame him, eh, recommend him aswell :) Great series, and great for reading during downtime :P eve-crc.net \| forum rules

Ogul Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.01.15 15:14:00 - [33] Edited by: Ogul on 15/01/2007 15:12:57 Originally by: Spartaen Originally by: Milaahs Nithori Defiantly the Nights Dawn triology by Peter. F Hamilton. I read it while I was out traveling. Never missed EVE so much in my life, hehe. It's great sci-fi in every respect. Night's Dawn trilogy > all. Oh yes. 3000+ pages ending in a deus ex machina. I never knew a greater disappointment. on topic: Richard Morgans's "Altered Carbon" and sequels (not exactly pods and spaceships, but people change bodies a lot)
RuleoftheBone Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.15 15:23:00 - [34] Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 15/01/2007 15:22:57 Originally by: Ogul Edited by: Ogul on 15/01/2007 15:12:57 Originally by: Spartaen Originally by: Milaahs Nithori Defiantly the Nights Dawn triology by Peter. F Hamilton. I read it while I was out traveling. Never missed EVE so much in my life, hehe. It's great sci-fi in every respect. Night's Dawn trilogy > all. Oh yes. 3000+ pages ending in a deus ex machina. I never knew a greater disappointment. on topic: Richard Morgans's "Altered Carbon" and sequels (not exactly pods and spaceships, but people change bodies a lot) Very fair comment. Hamilton must have got sick of keeping track of the whole story...but still-Al Capone as the leader of a gang of space-nasties? Now thats cool . And speaking of deus ex machina...check out the Dan Simmons "Ilium" and "Olympus" for more "machinas" than you can shake a stick at If this gets a sticky....I suggest the name of the thread be changed to "Excellent Reading Suggestions When Stuck At Log-In/Gate or Station Camp/POS War/Extended Patch Day.....Or When Mining"
Yumi Katanawe Caldari Sniggerdly	Posted - 2007.01.15 15:30:00 - [35] Frank Herbert - dune series, aka where the amarr empire came from. The Jesus Incident series is also awesome but none of it shows in EVE. Greg Beard - hard sci-fi, fits like a glove with EVE. Ian Gibson - geebus, it's the Caldari State!
Ogul Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.01.15 15:31:00 - [36] Originally by: RuleoftheBone Very fair comment. Hamilton must have got sick of keeping track of the whole story...but still-Al Capone as the leader of a gang of space-nasties? Now thats cool . At least the amount of gangster smacktalk could be the most striking resemblance to EVE.
djenghis jan Amarr Debiloff	Posted - 2007.01.15 15:39:00 - [37] Vernor Vinge: A fire upon the deep (best book ever) Also a deepness in the sky by the same author is very good. Then most if not all books by jack vance... The above mentioned books are also great especially snow crash by neal stephenson but i will not double post all off them. Do read online (non fiction) essays by vernor vinge about the singularity event. nice post djenghis
Ralus eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.15 16:11:00 - [38] Originally by: Eris Discordia Mentioned here before but I second the Gap cycle. It's one of the best series I have read in years. Thanks to other devs who recommended it to me I can recommend it to you The start: Morn Hyland, an ensign with the United Mining Companies Police, is on her first mission aboard the UMCP destroyer Starmaster. When they arrive at Com-Mine Station, a ship, Bright Beauty, piloted by the pirate Angus Thermopyle, flees, and Starmaster follows. Witnessing Angus slaughtering a small mining settlement. Starmaster attempts combat, but is almost destroyed by a massive internal explosion. The who and why you'd have to read yourself but there are some nice twists in all of the books. meh I'm not sure, the author seems to be far to interested in dreaming up really horrible things to do to Morn in preference to furthering to the plotline, I gave up after book 3 feeling that all I'd read is Donaldson's perversions printed...
Dau Imperius Amarr	Posted - 2007.01.15 16:43:00 - [39] I've got much better recommendations: 1.) How to be a Human-being for dummies. 2.) Why PvP is not everything and never will be. 3.) How not to whine and complain on forums about every single thing you see. 4.) The computer and you: a treatise on ethics and morals online. I could go on, but I doubt most of you could read something that doesn't involve F1, F2, F3 or Iwin/Lose. And 'Dear CCP: Fix my life'.
Zakalwe FireStar Inc Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.15 17:08:00 - [40] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 15/01/2007 01:23:06 Iain M. Banks. Stephen Baxter. David Brin. Larry Niven. Greb Bear. Hmmm... not in the name of my Corp/Alliance
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.01.15 17:20:00 - [41] Originally by: Ivan Kirilenkov Alastair Reynolds has been mentioned many times, but since he's the one responsible for me returning from a break from Eve, I'll blame him, eh, recommend him aswell :) Great series, and great for reading during downtime :P His descriptions of Spiders (Conjoiners, NOT the invertebrates) are particularly interesting since it is devilishly close to what EVE's pod-pilots would be like. Other than that, he's taking a much more scientific approach to SciFi-science than EVE, meaning that he get all relativistic when it comes to space travel (no warp holes or anything!)... and there's no sound in space - EVE is sick.
Takahashi Arran coracao ardente Sani Khal'Vecna	Posted - 2007.01.15 17:25:00 - [42] Originally by: Dau Imperius I've got much better recommendations: 1.) How to be a Human-being for dummies. you could start by treating poeple with respect? Quote: 3.) How not to whine and complain on forums about every single thing you see. Oh the irony. anyway onto the reading, Ian. M Banks and Alastair Reynolds will blow your mind into little pieces and then serve it to you in a smoothie, my 2 favourite authors I would say. Also John Le Carre for all you people with tinfoil hats (and for those of us without as well, great reading doesn't have to be sci-fi). Finally Douglas Adams but that goes almost without saying. (and I still think he was better on the radio)
Iyanah Minmatar Mining Munitions and Mayhem	Posted - 2007.01.15 18:25:00 - [43] Originally by: ScreamingLord Sutch Peter F Hamilton without a doubt, some of the finest sci-fi, i highly reccomend pretty much everything he's written :P ========================================== Iy
Tairos Hakonnus Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.15 18:36:00 - [44] William Gibson's Neuromancer
Chereadenine Zakalwe VENOM72 Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.15 18:41:00 - [45] as most have posted, the banks stuff is fantastic(though his culture stuff is best, the ships in the algaebrist are captained by pod pilots!!).alistair reynolds is another good one.theres another writer who has some pretty good stuff out called ken mcleod,writes from a kinda socialist viewpoint similar to banks Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Kyrall Caldari Crazy 88's O X I D E	Posted - 2007.01.15 18:53:00 - [46] I really like Ben Bova's 'Grand Tour' series, set in our solar system. I started with Mars and Return To Mars, then the Asteroid Wars trilogy followed by Moonrise and Moonwar, and I have now read most of the series. Asteroid Wars is probably the most Eve-like of the lot, although they get to turn their mining lasers on ships! - Take another step back until you find you've walked away
Mikal Drey	Posted - 2007.01.15 19:39:00 - [47] hey hey although most of the books i read would be more for the WOW players as i find reading sci-fi can be tedius (to me) heres a few recomendations from me. Orson Scot Card - Ender's Saga William Shatner - TekWar Frank Herbert - Dune Those people who love sci-fi continually bug me about reading those and TekWar is supposed to be suprisingly good. My Personal Author list Clive Barker - At his best he's incredible - Abrat Quartet is back to his old self Terry Pratchett - Discworld FTW Terry Goodkind - The fantastic Sword of Truth books Orson Scot Card - Alvin Maker series Ursula K Le Guin - Earthsea Robert Jordan >> "when will it end :((" Raymond E Feist- Throughly Recomend "Magician" James Barclay - Anyone read his new series ? Trudi Canavan- High Lord Trilogy is superb Garth Nix - Sabriel/Aborhensen series *my reading is more WOW than EVE but EVE is clearly superior.
Jake Anvil Excessive Force	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:11:00 - [48] I'll 2nd Elizabeth Moon - Vatta's War & raise you The Serrano Legacy. Could be a dicey suggestion though, but it gives an interesting point of view on a contreversial sport. Also just reading Crossover by Joel Shepherd. Very interesting take on humanity's potential attitudes toward AI & cyborgs. My personal problem is I read too quick, so I'm already through most of the good stuff! Exessive Force - The only way!
Natasha Kerensky The Company Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:11:00 - [49] Originally by: Tairos Hakonnus William Gibson's Neuromancer QFT Ghost War by Michael A. Stackpole is one of my favorites, though you really need to be a Mechwarrior nerd to fully appreciate it. And of course the almighty Ender's Game
Constantine Arcanum Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:25:00 - [50] I think EVE was described in PC Gamer as 'Live the Iain M. Banks dream' :) I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes
Malik Cygnus Prize Fighting Goats	Posted - 2007.01.15 21:04:00 - [51] Edited by: Malik Cygnus on 15/01/2007 21:01:54 I just finished Isaac Asimov's Nemesis. I thought that it was strikingly similar to the EVE universe. It's a great read as well. I highly suggest it to any sci-fi fan. ---
Malik Cygnus Prize Fighting Goats	Posted - 2007.01.15 21:04:00 - [52] Edited by: Malik Cygnus on 15/01/2007 21:01:54 I just finished Isaac Asimov's Nemesis. I thought that it was strikingly similar to the EVE universe. It's a great read as well. I highly suggest it to any sci-fi fan. ---
Flapp Dog Tags	Posted - 2007.01.16 00:08:00 - [53] I am hereby hijacking this thread: What you need to know to survive EvE instead of what you'd like to read. Let's go: Frank Herbert - "Dune" (mentioned already) A complex universe indeed. So many different characters and factions interacting with each other, you won't believe it. That's why people said it was impossible to make a movie out of it. And they were right. Find out why it takes your CEO 3 hours in the alliance meeting only to agree to the next roid to mine. Also, why it took BoB 4+ months to wardec ASCN. Frank Herbert - "The Dragon in the sea" Short novel about psychological warfare. Spies, treachery, pewpew. Just like Eve. C.J. Cherryh - The "Union" series (mentioned already) Entertainment at it's best: Easy to follow yet very enjoyable, developing around a few selected points of view. My recommendation for new readers. Name your ship "Norway" and i'll blast you to Jove space BTW. No offense ofc. Arthur C. Clarke - Various titles. The older, the better. (mentioned already) Classics in SciFi here, like "A fall of moon dust" about a tourist ship cruising the seas of dust on our moon getting into real trouble. Old "Airport" movie style, good to begin with. Eve related, what every FC should know about panic and boredom. Shinishi Hoshi - Various titles, mostly his "short short" stories. Classic SciFi but really short, exactly what you need between 2 cycles of Ice sucking. Nuff said. "Ender's game" - don't remember the author atm (Orson Scott Guard?) About young boys being trained by the military by making groups of them fight each other in mock combat. A common reference on the internet, yet most people i talked about it so far seem to be lacking the consequences the story tells. Read at own risk. Wil Gibson - "Neuromancer" and follow-ups. (mentioned already) High tech living mostly about hackers in the future. If those book are too hefty, try "Burning Chrome" first. Eve-wise, spies and corp. thieves. Now for some important reading, as any of these will give you access to new skills (in paranthesis): Maquis de Sade - practically everything (Excentric CEO Evasion) Sun Tzu - The Art of War (Forum Spamming) George Orwell - 1984 (Political Correctness, Word Filter Analysis) Hey, i'm getting a 5% total on all book sales, right? Flapp (Sorry about typos and such, this was all out of a drunken brain. But if you insist, i'll crawl up the shelves tomorrow and hit you with exact information, wrecking for total get-out-here-iness.)
Kaaln Gallente Soar Angelic	Posted - 2007.01.16 00:28:00 - [54] Anything by Arthur C Clarke is a must.
Semblence	Posted - 2007.01.16 00:48:00 - [55] Originally by: Twilight Moon Edited by: Twilight Moon on 15/01/2007 12:31:56 Anyone know if Ian M. Banks has another book in the works? I've read the lot. I'm afraid Iain M Banks missed his Christmas deadline for his new book because he got addicted to Civilisation III. From http://news.independent.co.uk/people/pandora/article1220060.ece "Iain Banks has committed the cardinal sin of failing to meet a deadline. The award-winning novelist's latest work, Matter, was due to hit the shelves in a couple of weeks as a shoo-in for the Christmas bestseller lists. It now won't be released until some time next March. "It's all because I became a serial addict of the computer game 'Civilisation'," Banks said at this month's Edinburgh book festival. "I played it for three months and then realised I hadn't done any work. In the end, I had to delete all the saved files and smash the CD. "It is very unprofessional of me. I had to ask for an extension for the first time, which made me feel just like I was a student again." In other bad news for Banks fans, he writes one sci-fi then one mainstream novel (though he doesn't really accept the distinction), and since his last one was sci-fi, Matter must be a mainstream one. I wouldn't like him to discover Eve because he might never write another novel again, and there's no CD to smash! As for recommendations, just start with the first one in the "SF Masterworks" series published by Gollanz, and work your way through... And why has no-one mentioned Philip K Di_ck yet? "A Scanner Darkly" is hilarious, while "Clans of the Alphane Moon" takes place on an abandoned mental-asylum planet where the inhabitants have formed social groups based on their psychiatric problems, (like we do in this game) and features a telepathic purple jelly creature. What more could you want?
Anell Minmatar	Posted - 2007.01.16 00:57:00 - [56] Originally by: Mikal Drey My Personal Author list Clive Barker - At his best he's incredible - Abrat Quartet is back to his old self Terry Pratchett - Discworld FTW Terry Goodkind - The fantastic Sword of Truth books Orson Scot Card - Alvin Maker series Ursula K Le Guin - Earthsea Robert Jordan >> "when will it end :((" Raymond E Feist- Throughly Recomend "Magician" James Barclay - Anyone read his new series ? Trudi Canavan- High Lord Trilogy is superb Garth Nix - Sabriel/Aborhensen series *my reading is more WOW than EVE but EVE is clearly superior. If you prefer fantasy to sci-fi then you absolutely must read "A Game of Thrones" by George R.R. Martin. I've read most of the books on that list and I feel absolutely safe in saying that Martin is the top dog of fantasy right now. Try him and you won't be disappointed.
Freada Gallente Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.01.16 02:17:00 - [57] David Weber
NoScript	Posted - 2007.01.16 02:51:00 - [58] I agree w/ everything here. Just wanted to call out C.J. Cherryh's "Heavy Time", and Robert Heinlein's "Cat Who Walks Through Walls". Plus, dial in the way-back machine and check out E.E. Smiths "Lensman" series.
Maria Ravenwind Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.16 02:55:00 - [59] Stephen R Donaldson's Gap Cycle is an absolute must. Orson Scott Card's Ender Saga is incredible. Donaldson's fight scenes, both physical combat and spaceships, is something to behold. Card's work on combat tactics and planetary politics is really fantastic.
Malicia Skirj	Posted - 2007.01.16 03:03:00 - [60] Wow...I can't believe I've not seen it.. Anything in the Vorkosigan series by Lois McMaster Bujold, though Borders of Infinity was my first and favorite.
Cipher7	Posted - 2007.01.16 03:09:00 - [61] William Gibson (Neuromancer, Burning Chrome) Isaac Asimov (The Stars Like Dust) Tom Clancy (Red Storm Rising) Make sure you play Fallout series Dues Ex System Shock Doom3 Elite Wasteland God I love Sci Fi
hotgirl933	Posted - 2007.01.16 03:56:00 - [62] peter f hamilton ( nightdawn trilogy) kulu system is named after his book me thinks
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.01.16 05:01:00 - [63] Read "Theodicy" under the short stories section in the EVE Online backstory. It's fairly long for a short story, and it quite a good read. Made me want to train for Amarr just for their "glory." Even if they are pieces of... --
Majestik Gallente Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2007.01.16 05:16:00 - [64] Edited by: Majestik on 16/01/2007 05:16:05 Looks like I have a lot of books to buy. My choices...... The Stars at War II by David Weber, Steve White. 1056 pages The Planet Pirates by Anne McCaffrey, Jody Lynn Nye, and Elizabeth Moon 896 pages
Lucius Malvek	Posted - 2007.01.16 05:47:00 - [65] Originally by: Mikal Drey Raymond E Feist- Throughly Recomend "Magician" Yeah, not Sci-Fi (though it does have aliens from a different world), the Riftwar saga you are referring to is my favorite book series of all time.
Omber Zombie Gallente Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2007.01.16 05:58:00 - [66] why does everyone always forget E.E. Doc Smith's Lensman Series? ---------------------- FTEK is Recruiting
Shauuri	Posted - 2007.01.16 06:19:00 - [67] I know it's been mentioned before, but I have to say that Dan Simmons' Hyperion novels and his Illum series (can't wait for the 3rd book!) are among the best SF I've read. Of course, Dune remains to this day the finest of the bunch; I;m working my way through the "prequel" novels right now and loving them.
Risien Drogonne	Posted - 2007.01.16 08:37:00 - [68] Originally by: D'Mur Pilru Lest we forgot Arthur C. Clarke, old but ever good. And Orson Scott Cards 'Ender' series rocks as well. (as does the side novel Enders Shadow) Although it has absolutely nothing similar to EVE at all, "Ender's Game" was definitely one of my favorite sci-fi novels.
Vaslav Tchitcherine Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.01.16 10:23:00 - [69] Originally by: Ogul Originally by: Spartaen Night's Dawn trilogy > all. Oh yes. 3000+ pages ending in a deus ex machina. I never knew a greater disappointment. ++++ An epic and exquisite setup for nothing but a truly terrible pun. Crushing disappointment. If I ever meet the man I will punch him in the face. Or maybe frown at him. Either way, he will rue the day. On topic: Joan Vinge's Cat books present an interesting, highly-corporatized future that is no doubt what the Caldari State looks like from a citizen's-eye-view. She is Vernor's ex-wife, and his superior as a writer (though A Fire.. and A Deepness.., already mentioned, are excellent). Some people have mentioned fantasy books. The most Eve-like fantasy of any quality I can mention is Steven Brust's too-often overlooked Vlad Taltos series. Of a similar dark bent to Eve, and very good (and very, very bloody), is Steven Erikson's series. Also, it's surprising how many people don't know how to spell their favourite authors' names. v. Star Fraction is recruiting: come smash the State!
RuleoftheBone Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.16 10:23:00 - [70] Originally by: Omber Zombie why does everyone always forget E.E. Doc Smith's Lensman Series? Because some of us are reluctant to reveal just how old we actually are As in: Phillip K. ****-"Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep" which was the basis for the amazing Blade Runner movie (I still have the PC game just for the Vangelis sound track. And if you buy the DVD-make sure it has the alternative endings). Anything else by PKD is also mind blowing. Walter Miller-"A Canticle For Leibowitz" Ray Bradbury-Anything he wrote. More about the human side of sci-fi. Robert Heinlein-Been mentioned before. "The Cat Who Walks Through Walls" is my favorite. Gregory Benford-Another scientist turned sci-fi writer. The "Galactic Center" series is a gem. Robert Sawyer-"Calculating God" will move you-big time. His other stuff is pretty good too. Enough already-I have not even dented my bookshelf yet! But here is something for everyone-not sci-fi but what a read: "Night Watch"-by Sergei Lukyanenko. This is one novelist who makes me wish I could read Russian so I didn't have to wait for the translations (Book 2 "Day Watch" is due for release in the UK shortly). The fun of vampires-v-warlocks-v-shapechangers-"normals" is made excellent by the questions of morality raised within. And finally-hold on to your hats on this one-again a non-science fiction author: Umberto Eco-"The Name Of The Rose". Probably the most entertaining and accessable of Eco's works you will still find yourself reaching for the latin dictionary (physical or web based ) in order to truely enjoy a magnificent murder mystery with far-reaching social and religious implications set in a dark ages monastary. I would also recommend the film version featuring Sean Connery if you can find a copy. Enjoy...and keep them book recommendations rolling in
Phoenix Pryde Caldari Infinite Improbability Inc	Posted - 2007.01.16 10:32:00 - [71] Since it wasnt mentioned yet ... The Saga of Seven Suns, Series from Kevin J. Anderson. Entertaining read. I also liked the classic Battletech Books. But thats another quite large scifi universe in itself. And granted, one has to like Battletech itself to be a able to stomach a few of the books ... g TRUST Shop // Infinite Improbability Inc [3-I]
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.01.16 11:29:00 - [72] Originally by: Shauuri I know it's been mentioned before, but I have to say that Dan Simmons' Hyperion novels and his Illum series (can't wait for the 3rd book!) are among the best SF I've read. Of course, Dune remains to this day the finest of the bunch; I;m working my way through the "prequel" novels right now and loving them. There will be a 3rd book for Illium? The story seemed pretty much finished in the 2nd. (Of cource, the same thing could have been said for hyperion, but that still does not necessarily means Illium will get a 3rd and 4th book as well.)
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.01.16 11:29:00 - [73] Originally by: Shauuri I know it's been mentioned before, but I have to say that Dan Simmons' Hyperion novels and his Illum series (can't wait for the 3rd book!) are among the best SF I've read. Of course, Dune remains to this day the finest of the bunch; I;m working my way through the "prequel" novels right now and loving them. There will be a 3rd book for Illium? The story seemed pretty much finished in the 2nd. (Of cource, the same thing could have been said for hyperion, but that still does not necessarily means Illium will get a 3rd and 4th book as well.)
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.01.16 11:29:00 - [74] Originally by: Shauuri I know it's been mentioned before, but I have to say that Dan Simmons' Hyperion novels and his Illum series (can't wait for the 3rd book!) are among the best SF I've read. Of course, Dune remains to this day the finest of the bunch; I;m working my way through the "prequel" novels right now and loving them. There will be a 3rd book for Illium? The story seemed pretty much finished in the 2nd. (Of cource, the same thing could have been said for hyperion, but that still does not necessarily means Illium will get a 3rd and 4th book as well.)
Xthril Ranger hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.01.16 11:43:00 - [75] Edited by: Xthril Ranger on 16/01/2007 11:42:48 Originally by: Vaslav Tchitcherine Originally by: Ogul Originally by: Spartaen Night's Dawn trilogy > all. Oh yes. 3000+ pages ending in a deus ex machina. I never knew a greater disappointment. ++++ An epic and exquisite setup for nothing but a truly terrible pun. Crushing disappointment. If I ever meet the man I will punch him in the face. Or maybe frown at him. Either way, he will rue the day. No epic ending , just the use of the galactic "I win button". Left me with a bitter taste. But I love everything else he have done. The Pandora's star and follow up Judas unchained is highly recommended. But if you like space battles there is nothing that is even close to the Dread empires fall trilogy (Walter Jon Williams). There is long battles happening at ranges spanning entire solarsystems. They are very well written and we follow the tactical side of the battles. How do you surprise your opponent when there is no hiding in space? How to react on info that is an hour old (light only goes so fast). Linkage you'll never jump alone
Xthril Ranger hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.01.16 11:43:00 - [76] Edited by: Xthril Ranger on 16/01/2007 11:42:48 Originally by: Vaslav Tchitcherine Originally by: Ogul Originally by: Spartaen Night's Dawn trilogy > all. Oh yes. 3000+ pages ending in a deus ex machina. I never knew a greater disappointment. ++++ An epic and exquisite setup for nothing but a truly terrible pun. Crushing disappointment. If I ever meet the man I will punch him in the face. Or maybe frown at him. Either way, he will rue the day. No epic ending , just the use of the galactic "I win button". Left me with a bitter taste. But I love everything else he have done. The Pandora's star and follow up Judas unchained is highly recommended. But if you like space battles there is nothing that is even close to the Dread empires fall trilogy (Walter Jon Williams). There is long battles happening at ranges spanning entire solarsystems. They are very well written and we follow the tactical side of the battles. How do you surprise your opponent when there is no hiding in space? How to react on info that is an hour old (light only goes so fast). Linkage you'll never jump alone
Xthril Ranger hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.01.16 11:43:00 - [77] Edited by: Xthril Ranger on 16/01/2007 11:42:48 Originally by: Vaslav Tchitcherine Originally by: Ogul Originally by: Spartaen Night's Dawn trilogy > all. Oh yes. 3000+ pages ending in a deus ex machina. I never knew a greater disappointment. ++++ An epic and exquisite setup for nothing but a truly terrible pun. Crushing disappointment. If I ever meet the man I will punch him in the face. Or maybe frown at him. Either way, he will rue the day. No epic ending , just the use of the galactic "I win button". Left me with a bitter taste. But I love everything else he have done. The Pandora's star and follow up Judas unchained is highly recommended. But if you like space battles there is nothing that is even close to the Dread empires fall trilogy (Walter Jon Williams). There is long battles happening at ranges spanning entire solarsystems. They are very well written and we follow the tactical side of the battles. How do you surprise your opponent when there is no hiding in space? How to react on info that is an hour old (light only goes so fast). Linkage you'll never jump alone
Nihma	Posted - 2007.01.16 12:51:00 - [78] Edited by: Nihma on 16/01/2007 12:47:17
Nihma	Posted - 2007.01.16 12:51:00 - [79] Edited by: Nihma on 16/01/2007 12:47:17
Milaahs Nithori Amarr Yazata Spenta Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.01.16 12:52:00 - [80] Originally by: Marcus Druallis Read "Theodicy" under the short stories section in the EVE Online backstory. It's fairly long for a short story, and it quite a good read. Made me want to train for Amarr just for their "glory." Even if they are pieces of... Indeed, hehe. Theodicy is a very very great read Originally by: Yumi Katanawe Greg Beard - hard sci-fi, fits like a glove with EVE. Ah. I have only read Eon and Eternity by Greg Bear. Absolutely fantastic. Monumental. Those particular books didn't engage EVE-modus for me though. EVE is more grand space opera. Greg Bear's sci fi is closer to home i guess. ---------------------------------------
Milaahs Nithori Amarr Yazata Spenta Aegis Militia	Posted - 2007.01.16 12:52:00 - [81] Originally by: Marcus Druallis Read "Theodicy" under the short stories section in the EVE Online backstory. It's fairly long for a short story, and it quite a good read. Made me want to train for Amarr just for their "glory." Even if they are pieces of... Indeed, hehe. Theodicy is a very very great read Originally by: Yumi Katanawe Greg Beard - hard sci-fi, fits like a glove with EVE. Ah. I have only read Eon and Eternity by Greg Bear. Absolutely fantastic. Monumental. Those particular books didn't engage EVE-modus for me though. EVE is more grand space opera. Greg Bear's sci fi is closer to home i guess. ---------------------------------------
Radioact1ve BIG	Posted - 2007.01.17 15:44:00 - [82] Since he hasn't been mentioned yet, there's also the other Greg, Greg Egan. And Gregory Benford. Both write very good "hard" science fiction. Oh and some people may also enjoy Eric Nylund's novels. Even though set in a quite a different universe and very different from the works of the two authors mentioned above, they're very good "action" science fiction novels.
Smagd Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.01.17 16:49:00 - [83] Edited by: Smagd on 17/01/2007 16:53:23 William Gibson is pretty far away from EvE really, although some of the better scenes in Neuromancer take place in near Earth orbit. If you do like near future stuff, I must recommend the newer Bridge trilogy and also Pattern recognition. He formed a lot of concepts in Neuromancer and he's still doing it. If you like hard SF like Greg Bear above, I'm still missing Robert L. Forward. His "Dragon's Egg" (which is about life on a neutron star discovered near the constellation "Draco", just so you don't run for your swords) is apparently still considered an "extra credit reading" in some beginner's astronomy classes. Edit: I'm adding John Brunners Shockwave Rider to the near-future Must-See books. Highly original writing style and terms that actually made it into real life (computer worms, for instance). -- Thukkers do
Erotic Irony RONA Deepspace Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.01.17 17:17:00 - [84] Snowcrash is alot of fun and the book of choice when EVE is slow going. It's like Neuromancer lite. ___
Izo Azlion Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.01.17 17:26:00 - [85] Peter F. Hamilton's "Nights Dawn" trilogy is basically a better version of EVE. (Sorry Devs, ... but the idea of Nanonics, affinty, and geneering far exceed the rabbling of Amarr :P) He rocks. Izo Azlion. --- Cortes owned my Sig. :/
Savesti Kyrsst Minmatar White-Noise	Posted - 2007.01.17 17:57:00 - [86] Edited by: Savesti Kyrsst on 17/01/2007 17:59:03 I'll list authors, because it'd be wrong to respond to the OPs actual post on general Iain M Banks (all - Against A Dark Background is my favourite sci-fi book) Ken McLeod (earlier better) Gregory Benford (earlier much better, read the various series not the recent pulp sci-thrillers) Vernor Vinge Alistair Reynolds Neal Stephenson Phillip K Di.ck Issac Asimov Arthur C. Clarke Orson Scott Card - Enders Game Brian Aldiss Dan Simmons Stephen Donaldson - Gap Series Not so related but similar "feel" (to me) Harlan Ellison China Mieville HG Wells Jules Verne Olaf Stapledon (really really old, pioneering sci-fi) Timothy Zahn - Thrawn Trilogy, great pulpy star wars fun(should have been the next movies, heh) Stuff I like anyway and can't help reccommending: Ursula K. Le Guinn (especially Earthsea) Mary Gentle (Ash) ... that any help?
Anator Namon	Posted - 2007.01.17 18:15:00 - [87] CH Cherryh. Ian Banks. Mike Resnick. Bujold. Vernor Vinge. Reynolds. These are just a few, and much much better than Niven ****.
Anator Namon	Posted - 2007.01.17 18:18:00 - [88] Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 15/01/2007 12:25:26 How dare I forget the masters: Issac Asimov-"Foundation Series" and Frank Herbert-"Dune Series"....the books by his son ain't bad and provide decent backstory to the originals but they smack a bit too much of commercialism. p.s. This is probably the most useful, fun, and interesting thread I have seen pop up in weeks But Dune hardly deals with space at all, and it is a very very different space than in EVE. Additionally, Foundation deals very little with space as well. EVE is not a planet game, we don't know much about how life is with planets. What is definitely a big part is semi-independent spaceships and captains and empires (the empires bit is where Foundation and Dune have some relevance).
Anator Namon	Posted - 2007.01.17 18:19:00 - [89] Originally by: Erotic Irony Snowcrash is alot of fun and the book of choice when EVE is slow going. It's like Neuromancer lite. Great books, but very very far from EVE.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.01.17 19:15:00 - [90] Originally by: Mikal Drey hey hey ... *my reading is more WOW than EVE but EVE is clearly superior. Try some older books: Harold Sea serie by Sprague De Camp Newhon serie (Fafhrd and Gray Mouser) by Friz Leiber; some FS/fantasy writer got to say that instead of Leiber winning the Tolkien prize, should have been Tolkien winning the Leiber prize for fantasy . FS the Viller serie by Alexiey Panshin And thys thread has increased my love for EVE. FS rule!
Frater Perdurabo Amarr The Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria	Posted - 2007.01.17 20:28:00 - [91] Edited by: Frater Perdurabo on 17/01/2007 20:29:00 I found it hard to believe certain authors and books havent got a mention yet, so i'll try a list of those: Alfred Bester - The Stars My Destination. Michael Marshall Smith - Spares/Only Forward/One of Us (If you diddn't like the end to nights dawn i doubt you'll like these ) Kurt Vonnegut - The Sirens of Titan, Cats Cradle, Slaughterhouse 5. Michael Moorcock - The Dancers at the End of Time Harry Harrison - The Stainless Steel Rat Also i would highly recommend almost all of the authors already mentioned, Smith, Heinlein, Hamilton, M. Banks, etc. One question for you all: anyone ever read any Stanislaw Lem? Edit - Oh and in a vague attempt to be somewhere nearly ontopic, i think Alastair Reynolds style comes quite close to that of eve, but not technologicaly. ----------------------------------- If my post has offended you in any way, please send me an evemail, i like to keep replies so i can laugh at them again and again...
Anator Namon	Posted - 2007.01.17 21:03:00 - [92] Edited by: Anator Namon on 17/01/2007 21:00:01 Many authors mentioned are great, many are crap. Many aren't at all EVEish. Lem is amazing, but not at all EVEish (and wouldn't want to be). Webber is an example of a poor (not terrible, I have read read some of his) author that is EVEish. Sirens of Titan, OTOH, is not at all EVEish. I thought that the point was: "What are some good Sci-Fi novels you could recommend that are in a similar vein to Eve-Online? Just something that has the same sort of atmosphere and feel to it."
Synapse Archae Amarr Solarflare Heavy Industries Pure.	Posted - 2007.01.17 21:23:00 - [93] Edited by: Synapse Archae on 17/01/2007 21:20:06 I'm going to support Frank Herbert's "Dune" again. Its that good. Edit: Crap I forgot "Ender's Game" Quite good even if I think the author is an ass. Since I'm a cyberpunk fan Ill put up William Gibson's "Neuromancer", and Neil Stephenson's "Snow Crash", although any book by either author is good. Ive heard numerous good things from various people about Ian Banks. Probably also worth reading from the amount of praise I hear. - - - These elite slaves are exceptionally well suited for physical labor.
Chupacabro	Posted - 2007.01.17 21:43:00 - [94] Another book were the pilots are hard wired with implants and actually connect with the ship. Is Malisa Scott's Dreamships. It is not particularly a good book(Most eather love it or hate it. I thought it was Meh.) It is alright if you are interested in the subject matter. Her discription of the technology is what I found most interesting about the book. And the actual pilots sound a lot like what the Jove go through.
RuleoftheBone Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.17 22:52:00 - [95] Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 17/01/2007 22:50:18 Alright...so some of the title mentioned are not EvE-related-but honestly-who really cares? A good book is a good book and while books like "Dune" or "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep" do not feature deep space warfare (except in the abstract--Herbert's son's Dune prequels somewhat excepted) they do explore explore what is truely interesting about humanity and what that means regardless of setting. Some of these novels seriously question what it means to be human in the context of galactic warfare (or fantasy--or whatever--you pick 'em). And as the EvE universe is supposed to be player-driven...as in variations of human-the variety of titles mentioned thus far are more than applicable. I'll step off my soapbox and offer up another couple of gems: China Meiville-"Perdido Street Station". Don't walk...run to the bookstore and grab this. And the follow-ups "The Scar" and "Iron Council". To try and define the work as simply dark fantasy/steampunk is like comparing George Lucas as an author to Shakespeare. And again...no %^$ing elves or other silliness. Stephen Dedman-"The Art Of Arrow Cutting". Brooklyn guy meets Yakuza and is dragged into battling various magical nasties of Japanese origin. The follow-up "Shadows Bite" is fun as well. If you liked Neil Gaiman's "American Gods" this author is for you! And finally...back on the sci-fi track: Grant Naylor-"Red Dwarf" and "Better Than Life". Best read when errrrrr....how can I put this...under the influence Don't say I didn't warn you-fans of the show will know where I am coming from EDIT*Noticed that Savesti Kyrsst mentioned China Meiville first. Credit where credit is due!
Anator Namon	Posted - 2007.01.17 23:43:00 - [96] If we are just talking about good books, I liked: Faulkner, in particular a Fable and Absalom Absalom. Lilith by Macdonald. War and Peace by Tolstoy. Conrad I am a fan of also. I have only read His Master's Voice and Solaris by Lem, but they were both very good. Everything I have read by Wolfe is amazing, he is probably one of the best writers writing today. Many people start with his Torturer series. Neil Gaiman has some I like a lot, in particular Stardust and Neverwhere. Zelazny has some good books, in particular Lords of Light, Amber, Jack of Shadows, and Creatures of Light and Darkness. The Gap series has already been mentioned, but I also thought that the Mirror series was good (by Donaldson). Freidman has some good ones, and some of hers are even EVEish (This Alien Shore is probably my favorate). Song of Ice and Fire by Martin is very good. ****son also has some EVEish ones, although most focus on space. The Childe cycle I recommend. I of course recommend Lord of the Rings by Tolkien and Harry Potter (both Fantasies). Beloved by Toni Morrison is excellent also. I could go on and on and on, I agree with a number mentioned, and think that a number of others mentioned are pretty poor.
Neon Genesis Gallente Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.01.17 23:56:00 - [97] Originally by: Katrina Coreli Adolf Huxly - A Brave new world is a *****er But for true scope its always goign to be Ian M Banks Aldous Huxley And agreed.
Romeda Minmatar Trojan industries	Posted - 2007.01.18 00:26:00 - [98] I would say you could try a quick read at The Dark Wheel it's set in the Elite universe, I still remember the short stories book that came with Frontier Elite 2, but I could not find any of them on the net.
sartorii Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.18 00:35:00 - [99] Edited by: sartorii on 18/01/2007 00:32:38 hmm it seems odd to me that the "Greats" of Science Fiction (not SCIFI rhymes with 'iffy' and i defer to Harlen Ellison for the differences) need mention at all. But I suppose it is a good resource for those new to the genre. a few of the 'less mainstream' novels i think fit Eve well.. The Eternity Brigade -Stephen Goldin not space related but an intense look a the possible effects of Cloning on Military operations..hmm apparently there is a 'modernized version' i havent read coool.. Hardwired -Jon Walter Williams also not space, but as the title implies, implants, living in the 'interface' and MegaCorp control of society. Armor John Steaky i just love this book, cant pass up a chance to recommend it *To Bad Ignorance isnt Painful*
Economo 3000	Posted - 2007.01.22 21:36:00 - [100] Well I went to go buy some Iain Banks novels, and I planned to start with consider phlebas and the player of games... but where can I find these? Consier Phlebas isn't even sold new anymore, that I see, and the used paperback versions of it (on barnes and noble) sell for 30 bucks or more!
Mikal Drey	Posted - 2007.01.22 21:46:00 - [101] Originally by: Economo 3000 Well I went to go buy some Iain Banks novels, and I planned to start with consider phlebas and the player of games... but where can I find these? Consier Phlebas isn't even sold new anymore, that I see, and the used paperback versions of it (on barnes and noble) sell for 30 bucks or more! EBAY. or second hand bookshops are a gem for old books. I find if a book is famous or even remotly popular then Major booksellers Jack prices quite high. Spend a few days looking around charity shops/second hand book sellers/ebay then you might have some luck. Maybe a nice Capsuleer has a spare copy ?
Kadarin Wolfenrecon	Posted - 2007.01.23 01:12:00 - [102] Edited by: Kadarin on 23/01/2007 01:11:26 A couple that haven't been mentioned yet: The Dragon Never Sleeps, by Glen Cook If you can find it (out of print?), this book provides a rich story, intrigue, mystery, firepower, warfare... It's outstanding. Antares (trilogy), by Michael McCollum This features the novels Antares Dawn, Antares Passage, and Antares Victory. These are acceptable SF fare, but not outstanding. They are very EVE-like in that the mode of travel between stars involves something akin to stargates, called "foldpoints", which are anchored to some, but not all, stars. Snow Queen, and Summer Queen, by Joan D. Vinge Less EVE-like, but excellent writing and storytelling.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.23 01:45:00 - [103] Edited by: Patch86 on 23/01/2007 01:43:21 Originally by: RuleoftheBone Phillip K. **-"Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep" which was the basis for the amazing Blade Runner movie (I still have the PC game just for the Vangelis sound track. And if you buy the DVD-make sure it has the alternative endings). Anything else by PKD is also mind blowing. <3 ! Seriously, I'm still trying to figure out a way of making my dissertation PKD related Worryingly, the only novel that reminded me of EVE strongly, though, was "A Scanner Darkly"- that must say something worrying about the EVE community............... Best PKD novel, though (for me) has to be "The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch"- total mind-** of a novel, completely brilliant stuff. Also Ray Bradbury is awesome too. "Fahrenheit 451" is a brilliant novel for anyone who loves their reading.......... On a slightly different note- Douglas Adams- "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy". I mean, everytime you look at something inexplicable in the EVE universe, you just know theGuide would have something informative about it. Space with the consistency of cooking oil? Easy peasy. Drones with a disobediant attitude problem? Direct your complaints to the Syrius Cybernetics Corporation EDIT: I'm not even going to pretend I know why my post looks like a quote again. Looks like the drones arn't the only software to come from Syrius Cybernetics around here EDIT 2: Totally fixed it, I'm so Uber -----------------------------------------------
KHEN Gallente New Horizons	Posted - 2007.01.23 02:09:00 - [104] "Permanence" by Karl Schroeder. Awesome space opera, made me remember the best Arthur C. Clarke novels. Best SciFi book I've read in 2006. Linkage
Kashre Minmatar Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.23 02:13:00 - [105] Edited by: Kashre on 23/01/2007 02:12:16 Is it just me, or has no one mentioned David Webber? The Honor Harrington serries is good, and sorta reminds me of alliance warfare (minus the POSeses). I also reccomend Steve White (Starfire novels like In Death Ground). David Drake (With the Lightnigns and Lt. Leary Commanding). Debra Doyle and James D. Macdonald, the Mageworld trilogy... which is a lot more sci-fi than it sounds. +++ "Etiquette is for the Dojo. In war there is only victory or death." - Eiji Yoshikawa

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