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Phonix Fate.	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:06:00 - [1] Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed. So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not. Just wanted to see others views about this. CEO of Fate
DHB FooFighter FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:08:00 - [2] kill 'em all. -------------------------------------------- {2007.01.07 15:49:20 Notify Pretax Metron has initiated self-destruct of their Chimera}
Kyguard Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:11:00 - [3] This is a rhetorical question.. What you should have done is not say anything, popped a few of them while you had + standings. -
Hamatitio Caldari Fate.	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:16:00 - [4] too late now i've killed a few of em already. --- I'm going through sigs fast these days.
Imran Fate.	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:16:00 - [5] Originally by: Phonix Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed. So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not. Just wanted to see others views about this. gtfo teh forums. EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful Ch33z0rs: Pirating is such a harsh term. I prefer unil
Opai McTwist Amarr The Sell Swords	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:18:00 - [6] Allies aren't corpmates. They may be +10, but a corpie is a corpie. If the corpie makes a mess, and brings it to the corp, then its the corp's responisibility to know that corpie's entanglements. I'm also intoxicated at the moment... so take this with two shots, and mail me in the morning... or something.
Pallidum Treponema KIA Corp	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:21:00 - [7] To be honest, you have two options here. * It's corp honor. Someone shoots at the corp, the corp shoots back. * It's a diplomacy issue. * It's a personal iss... Ok, you have three options. It's either corp honor, a diplomacy issue, a personal issue between him and the other corp or you can ban hi... four options, it's...
Hamatitio Caldari Fate.	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:24:00 - [8] Originally by: Phonix Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed. So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not. Just wanted to see others views about this. ps. are you drunk again? --- I'm going through sigs fast these days.
R3dSh1ft Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:24:00 - [9] They started the shooting, you finish it ______________________________________
Phonix Fate.	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:25:00 - [10] Originally by: Hamatitio Originally by: Phonix Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed. So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not. Just wanted to see others views about this. ps. are you drunk again? Maybe >< CEO of Fate
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:30:00 - [11] Neutral shoots neutral = fair game Blues shoot blues because of acts while neutral = dumb I've shot down plenty of neutrals that were "on the way" or "joining soon". That's what empire offices are for. Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Damn what happens to all those people whose self esteem doesnt depend on eve then? Oh right, I'm asking in the wrong place
Naldo Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:35:00 - [12] As I said in chat earlier. (PS the abuse I agve was messing around, those who know me know I always do it). That what has happened is a diplomacy issue. The corp in question thought that what the guy you have hired has done is underhand tactics to get cheap kill and no ramifications that follow it. By joining a corp blue to the victims and then going abck to the system he was more than aggrevating the situation and making him look a very guilty part of underhand tactics, so said corp took it upon them selves to underhandedly kill his shuttle (yes it was just a shuttle). I really do think that you should have waited to contact the leading parties of the corp before making such a decision (even though the way I said it earlier was funnier) Though guess you have to make your own decisions. You do have to see it from the other sides point of view though and it can be seen in a very dispicable act. Whether it was or not is not really the issue, to me it seems like an intention act of killing without the consiquences and said corp took it upon themselves to give the consiquences in as a underhanded tactic that they feel they were duped into. That said, the argument we had was pretty funny. It's so much easier with people who don't know me.
Naldo Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:38:00 - [13] Originally by: Naldo As I said in chat earlier. (PS the abuse I agve was messing around, those who know me know I always do it). That what has happened is a diplomacy issue. The corp in question thought that what the guy you have hired has done is underhand tactics to get cheap kill and no ramifications that follow it. By joining a corp blue to the victims and then going abck to the system he was more than aggrevating the situation and making him look a very guilty part of underhand tactics, so said corp took it upon them selves to underhandedly kill his shuttle (yes it was just a shuttle). I really do think that you should have waited to contact the leading parties of the corp before making such a decision (even though the way I said it earlier was funnier) Though guess you have to make your own decisions. You do have to see it from the other sides point of view though and it can be seen in a very dispicable act. Whether it was or not is not really the issue. To me it seems like an intentional act of killing without the consiquences, said corp took it upon themselves to give the consiquences in as an underhanded tactic that they feel they were duped into. That said, the argument we had was pretty funny. It's so much easier with people who don't know me. Edited one of the paragraphs which made no sense. (Cut me some slack its early in the morning)
Gauwyn Morley Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:44:00 - [14] To be honest Phonix, I think your just a fun loving carebear, who wouldn't want to upset anyone. Give em +10. Sincerely, Uther Agnoius.
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:53:00 - [15] Originally by: Phonix Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not. Of course not. Kill them all. Well we ain't known for our good politics abilities neither... Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:56:00 - [16] Bog standard ***** actions by all included it seems like. 1. The old friend could have just made good speed to apply and then start shooting instead of **ing his new friends off and then hiding behind the blue tag. 2. The other guys could have had a word before shooting blues. 3. Everybody could surely make it work after it happened and come to a conclusion unless you were all hotheaded.
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.01.15 06:59:00 - [17] Name and shame them, then kill them.
Mephistos Just-fun	Posted - 2007.01.15 07:06:00 - [18] Did your friend even know the corp was going to be blue once he joined Fate.? Either way, shoot them, more fun that way.
Xendie Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2007.01.15 07:07:00 - [19] nomatter what they did at their previous job they should not be shot at when they are working for a corp that is blue to the guys he shot at his old job. the guys who shot him and their corp havent been properly housetrained in respecting corp standings, now go out and train that corp to never again make that mistake again. Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent? Quote: jake sisko > its f-e's bob dev alt making lag
xXBeatnikXx Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.15 07:08:00 - [20] IMHO shoot them... they obviously thought you were a weak corp if they took revenge... but I also don't think they were wrong...
Blitz'Krieg Caldari SkyMarshal Logistics	Posted - 2007.01.15 07:11:00 - [21] They probably had killrights so its always been my motto: If its flashy red, its flashy dead. nuff said. Enter the ONE million for ONE billion lottery. details in bio or Linkage
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.01.15 07:20:00 - [22] Why do you have +10 with anyone? ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One." Corp/Alliance Services
Phonix Fate.	Posted - 2007.01.15 07:40:00 - [23] Originally by: Thor Xian Why do you have +10 with anyone? Because I'm a miner at heart :D Nah they have ex corp m8's there and they are friends of friends. And it wasnt a shuttle lost it was a domi. CEO of Fate
Naldo Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.15 07:46:00 - [24] Originally by: Phonix Originally by: Thor Xian Why do you have +10 with anyone? Because I'm a miner at heart :D Nah they have ex corp m8's there and they are friends of friends. And it wasnt a shuttle lost it was a domi. They were whining about a shuttle and pod loss before I interveined.
Hamatitio Caldari Fate.	Posted - 2007.01.15 07:46:00 - [25] I think phonix sets me up to die sometimes. --- I'm going through sigs fast these days.
Imran Fate.	Posted - 2007.01.15 07:49:00 - [26] get off the forums ya drunk bastard. EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful Ch33z0rs: Pirating is such a harsh term. I prefer unil
Benny Hill Caldari Deceased Inc	Posted - 2007.01.15 07:51:00 - [27] Edited by: Benny Hill on 15/01/2007 07:49:48 Can I join your corp? Plan would be - to kill some of your corp memebrs while still blue - then join another corp you have at +10. Then see what sparks happen. But seriously - he might have been personal set -10 and that overrides corp or alliance. And - you want that sort of idiot in your corp?
Louis DelaBlanche Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn	Posted - 2007.01.15 10:06:00 - [28] I say publically kick this corpmember in the groin for being an ass, then privately thank him for giving you more targets.
Lucian Alucard Caldari Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2007.01.15 10:33:00 - [29] Originally by: Hamatitio I think phonix sets me up to die sometimes. Its taken you this long to figure that out?
SwindonBadger 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.01.15 10:36:00 - [30] hahahaha blues?

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