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Phonix
Fate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:06:00 -
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Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
CEO of Fate
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:08:00 -
[2]
kill 'em all. 
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:11:00 -
[3]
This is a rhetorical question.. What you should have done is not say anything, popped a few of them while you had + standings.
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Hamatitio
Caldari
Fate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:16:00 -
[4]
too late now i've killed a few of em already.
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Imran
Fate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:16:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
gtfo teh forums.
EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente?
Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
Ch33z0rs: Pirating is such a harsh term. I prefer unil |
Opai McTwist
Amarr
The Sell Swords
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:18:00 -
[6]
Allies aren't corpmates. They may be +10, but a corpie is a corpie. If the corpie makes a mess, and brings it to the corp, then its the corp's responisibility to know that corpie's entanglements.
I'm also intoxicated at the moment... so take this with two shots, and mail me in the morning... or something.
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Pallidum Treponema
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:21:00 -
[7]
To be honest, you have two options here.
* It's corp honor. Someone shoots at the corp, the corp shoots back.
* It's a diplomacy issue.
* It's a personal iss...
Ok, you have three options. It's either corp honor, a diplomacy issue, a personal issue between him and the other corp or you can ban hi... four options, it's...
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Hamatitio
Caldari
Fate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:24:00 -
[8]
Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
ps. are you drunk again?
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R3dSh1ft
Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:24:00 -
[9]
They started the shooting, you finish it
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Phonix
Fate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:25:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Hamatitio
Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
ps. are you drunk again?
Maybe ><
CEO of Fate
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:30:00 -
[11]
Neutral shoots neutral = fair game
Blues shoot blues because of acts while neutral = dumb
I've shot down plenty of neutrals that were "on the way" or "joining soon". That's what empire offices are for.
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Damn what happens to all those people whose self esteem doesnt depend on eve then?
Oh right, I'm asking in the wrong place
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Naldo
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:35:00 -
[12]
As I said in chat earlier. (PS the abuse I agve was messing around, those who know me know I always do it). That what has happened is a diplomacy issue. The corp in question thought that what the guy you have hired has done is underhand tactics to get cheap kill and no ramifications that follow it.
By joining a corp blue to the victims and then going abck to the system he was more than aggrevating the situation and making him look a very guilty part of underhand tactics, so said corp took it upon them selves to underhandedly kill his shuttle (yes it was just a shuttle).
I really do think that you should have waited to contact the leading parties of the corp before making such a decision (even though the way I said it earlier was funnier) Though guess you have to make your own decisions. You do have to see it from the other sides point of view though and it can be seen in a very dispicable act. Whether it was or not is not really the issue, to me it seems like an intention act of killing without the consiquences and said corp took it upon themselves to give the consiquences in as a underhanded tactic that they feel they were duped into.
That said, the argument we had was pretty funny. It's so much easier with people who don't know me. 
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Naldo
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:38:00 -
[13]
Originally by: Naldo
As I said in chat earlier. (PS the abuse I agve was messing around, those who know me know I always do it). That what has happened is a diplomacy issue. The corp in question thought that what the guy you have hired has done is underhand tactics to get cheap kill and no ramifications that follow it.
By joining a corp blue to the victims and then going abck to the system he was more than aggrevating the situation and making him look a very guilty part of underhand tactics, so said corp took it upon them selves to underhandedly kill his shuttle (yes it was just a shuttle).
I really do think that you should have waited to contact the leading parties of the corp before making such a decision (even though the way I said it earlier was funnier) Though guess you have to make your own decisions. You do have to see it from the other sides point of view though and it can be seen in a very dispicable act. Whether it was or not is not really the issue. To me it seems like an intentional act of killing without the consiquences, said corp took it upon themselves to give the consiquences in as an underhanded tactic that they feel they were duped into.
That said, the argument we had was pretty funny. It's so much easier with people who don't know me.
Edited one of the paragraphs which made no sense. (Cut me some slack its early in the morning)
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Gauwyn Morley
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:44:00 -
[14]
To be honest Phonix, I think your just a fun loving carebear, who wouldn't want to upset anyone. Give em +10.
Sincerely,
Uther Agnoius.
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Omeega
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:53:00 -
[15]
Originally by: Phonix
Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Of course not. Kill them all.
Well we ain't known for our good politics abilities neither...
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:56:00 -
[16]
Bog standard ******* actions by all included it seems like.
1. The old friend could have just made good speed to apply and then start shooting instead of ****ing his new friends off and then hiding behind the blue tag.
2. The other guys could have had a word before shooting blues.
3. Everybody could surely make it work after it happened and come to a conclusion unless you were all hotheaded.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.01.15 06:59:00 -
[17]
Name and shame them, then kill them.
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Mephistos
Just-fun
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:06:00 -
[18]
Did your friend even know the corp was going to be blue once he joined Fate.?
Either way, shoot them, more fun that way.
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Xendie
Forsaken Empire
The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:07:00 -
[19]
nomatter what they did at their previous job they should not be shot at when they are working for a corp that is blue to the guys he shot at his old job.
the guys who shot him and their corp havent been properly housetrained in respecting corp standings, now go out and train that corp to never again make that mistake again.
Quote:
Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
Quote:
jake sisko > its f-e's bob dev alt making lag
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xXBeatnikXx
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:08:00 -
[20]
IMHO shoot them... they obviously thought you were a weak corp if they took revenge... but I also don't think they were wrong...
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Blitz'Krieg
Caldari
SkyMarshal Logistics
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:11:00 -
[21]
They probably had killrights so its always been my motto:
If its flashy red, its flashy dead.
nuff said.
Enter the ONE million for ONE billion lottery. details in bio or Linkage |
Thor Xian
Vertigo One
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:20:00 -
[22]
Why do you have +10 with anyone?
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
"For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One."
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Phonix
Fate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:40:00 -
[23]
Originally by: Thor Xian
Why do you have +10 with anyone?
Because I'm a miner at heart :D
Nah they have ex corp m8's there and they are friends of friends.
And it wasnt a shuttle lost it was a domi.
CEO of Fate
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Naldo
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:46:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Phonix
Originally by: Thor Xian
Why do you have +10 with anyone?
Because I'm a miner at heart :D
Nah they have ex corp m8's there and they are friends of friends.
And it wasnt a shuttle lost it was a domi.
They were whining about a shuttle and pod loss before I interveined.
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Hamatitio
Caldari
Fate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:46:00 -
[25]
I think phonix sets me up to die sometimes.
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Imran
Fate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:49:00 -
[26]
get off the forums ya drunk bastard.
EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente?
Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
Ch33z0rs: Pirating is such a harsh term. I prefer unil |
Benny Hill
Caldari
Deceased Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.15 07:51:00 -
[27]
Edited by: Benny Hill on 15/01/2007 07:49:48
Can I join your corp? Plan would be - to kill some of your corp memebrs while still blue - then join another corp you have at +10. Then see what sparks happen.
But seriously - he might have been personal set -10 and that overrides corp or alliance. And - you want that sort of idiot in your corp?
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Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.15 10:06:00 -
[28]
I say publically kick this corpmember in the groin for being an ass, then privately thank him for giving you more targets.
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Lucian Alucard
Caldari
Forsaken Empire
The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.15 10:33:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Hamatitio
I think phonix sets me up to die sometimes.
Its taken you this long to figure that out?
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SwindonBadger
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.15 10:36:00 -
[30]
hahahaha blues?
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Christopher Multsanti
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.01.15 10:51:00 -
[31]
I have seen a strange trend recently of people ignoring blue standings, whatever the reason or the situation is not important. Yeah you should have reset them, some people just aren't worth the time imo. 
It's great being Amarr that flys Minmintar aint it?
EVIL SYNNs > Bob are the best, we have to pay them to use the plexs...
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Kayosoni
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.15 10:52:00 -
[32]
Edited by: Kayosoni on 15/01/2007 10:48:42
Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
just padding your postcount tbh.
oh wait...
but seriously, I don't think anyone gives a ****.
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Darknesss
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 11:01:00 -
[33]
kill them all let god.. i mean me sort them out 
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Darknesss
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 11:02:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Kayosoni
Edited by: Kayosoni on 15/01/2007 10:48:42
Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
just padding your postcount tbh.
oh wait...
but seriously, I don't think anyone gives a ****.
Then dont post?
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 11:12:00 -
[35]
I think it kinda depends on intent.
Did your new member know that the people he attacked/killed were blue to Fate? And thus that he assumed he would be free from repercussion after joining you?
If so, I'd understand a bit more if the people who shot him would not accept that kind of easy exit, though they should have contacted your CEO first.
If your new member didn't know they were blue to Fate, than all the blame falls on the other guys IMO.
As for the issue of shooting at blues, accidents happen. Since leaving ASCN we had a small number of issues with standings, including one that led to the unfortunate killing of a newly acquired friend . It happens.
As long as it is not a deliberate attempt by one corp/alliance to abuse the blue standings to get an edge in a conflict, I don't see the point of escalating it. Friendly fire is a part of war.
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Asylum Seaker
Minmatar
RONA Corporation
RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.15 11:14:00 -
[36]
There is no such thing as right or wrong.
Memento Mori.
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Electric Cucumber
Amarr
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.15 11:17:00 -
[37]
less blues = more fun
you have done the right thing
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Hamatitio
Caldari
Fate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 11:21:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Kayosoni
Edited by: Kayosoni on 15/01/2007 10:48:42
Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
just padding your postcount tbh.
oh wait...
but seriously, I don't think anyone gives a ****.
Post count: The new epeen measurement.
( i have more posts than you tho kayo!)
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Anna Neura
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 11:25:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Kayosoni
Edited by: Kayosoni on 15/01/2007 10:48:42
Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
just padding your postcount tbh.
oh wait...
but seriously, I don't think anyone gives a ****.
Your hilarious!
but seriously, go away.
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Kayosoni
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.15 11:32:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Anna Neura
Originally by: Kayosoni
Edited by: Kayosoni on 15/01/2007 10:48:42
Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
just padding your postcount tbh.
oh wait...
but seriously, I don't think anyone gives a ****.
Your hilarious!
but seriously, go away.
who are you and why do you think you even matter?
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Darknesss
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 12:28:00 -
[41]
same question goes to you?
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Crucifier
BURN EDEN
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 12:31:00 -
[42]
rofl what the **** is fate doing with blues
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Crucifier
BURN EDEN
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 12:32:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Kayosoni
Edited by: Kayosoni on 15/01/2007 10:48:42
Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
just padding your postcount tbh.
oh wait...
but seriously, I don't think anyone gives a ****.
Shouldn't you be like... masturbating over animal pron?
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DeadProphet
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.15 12:38:00 -
[44]
don't shoot blue. Its as simple as that
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BobGhengisKhan
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.01.15 14:22:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Kayosoni
Edited by: Kayosoni on 15/01/2007 10:48:42
Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
just padding your postcount tbh.
oh wait...
but seriously, I don't think anyone gives a ****.
Shouldn't you be like... masturbating over animal pron?
it's actually little girls with cat ears ****
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Ku'Gras
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.15 14:38:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Xendie
nomatter what they did at their previous job they should not be shot at when they are working for a corp that is blue to the guys he shot at his old job.
the guys who shot him and their corp havent been properly housetrained in respecting corp standings, now go out and train that corp to never again make that mistake again.
qft.
If they had an issue with your new member they should have taken it up with you/your corp management first. As they did not...
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.01.15 14:40:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Kayosoni
who are you and why do you think you even matter?
And you matter? Quiet yourself, drone.
Can we PLEASE have a thread free from bob's self-fallating ego?
Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer |
Hast
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.15 14:48:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic
Originally by: Kayosoni
who are you and why do you think you even matter?
And you matter? Quiet yourself, drone.
Can we PLEASE have a thread free from bob's self-fallating ego?
Kayo's ego rivals the rest of BoB's ego combined ;|
Originally by: omeega
PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.15 14:56:00 -
[49]
-10.00 dude, kill em all!
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Misha Mosqito
Exanimo Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.15 15:04:00 -
[50]
So you couldn't make a descission as a ceo by your self, but went running to the forums...respect.
1. A guy killed 2 of our bs's, then went hiding in a "friendly" corp 1 hour later.
2. Exanimo has never had any issues with Fate, and this was a matter between our guys
and him.
3. If you kill one of our guys, deal with it and don't whine about it afterwards, nor hide in a friendly corp.
4. As we wrote in our mail to you, this was a one time incident and retaliation for the losses we had. We also saw this matter ended after we killed him.
5. Also, if your guy came up to Pure Blind to join your corp you should have told him who's blue and who's not before he went roaming about. You said it yourself:
Phonix > yes, but I told him before he joined we have very few blues.
6. Then the flamefest started, and before anyone could say Eve Online, your guys killed another Exan guy.
We tried to sort things out, but you had to do the quick solution before you spoke with our ceo (as i asked you to do 2 times in our little convo)
6. As of this Exanimo has Fate to negative standing.
Have a nice day and fly safe!
-Misha Mosqito
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.01.15 15:17:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 15/01/2007 15:13:46
Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic
Originally by: Kayosoni
who are you and why do you think you even matter?
And you matter? Quiet yourself, drone.
Can we PLEASE have a thread free from bob's self-fallating ego?
Kayo's ego rivals the rest of BoB's ego combined ;|
It's a good thing I have an ample supply of duct tape with which to wrap my head. It nearly exploded from this! 
Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer |
Christopher Multsanti
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.01.15 15:26:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Misha Mosqito
So you couldn't make a descission as a ceo by your self, but went running to the forums...respect.
1. A guy killed 2 of our bs's, then went hiding in a "friendly" corp 1 hour later.
2. Exanimo has never had any issues with Fate, and this was a matter between our guys
and him.
3. If you kill one of our guys, deal with it and don't whine about it afterwards, nor hide in a friendly corp.
4. As we wrote in our mail to you, this was a one time incident and retaliation for the losses we had. We also saw this matter ended after we killed him.
5. Also, if your guy came up to Pure Blind to join your corp you should have told him who's blue and who's not before he went roaming about. You said it yourself:
Phonix > yes, but I told him before he joined we have very few blues.
6. Then the flamefest started, and before anyone could say Eve Online, your guys killed another Exan guy.
We tried to sort things out, but you had to do the quick solution before you spoke with our ceo (as i asked you to do 2 times in our little convo)
6. As of this Exanimo has Fate to negative standing.
Have a nice day and fly safe!
-Misha Mosqito
Sorry you are the ones that shot a blue, you are in the wrong, it's as simple as that.
It's great being Amarr that flys Minmintar aint it?
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Evolution
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Posted - 2007.01.15 15:29:00 -
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Kick the new guy too. He's an idiot for shooting someone he was going to be blue to within the same day.
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David Godfrey
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Posted - 2007.01.15 15:35:00 -
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Here we go again phonix starting trouble  dont worry flower picking starts tomorrow 
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Posted - 2007.01.15 15:36:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
It depends if u give a **** about whether or not people can trust your corp. If you could potentially need the trust of other corporations in the future then you might want to think about how you honour your agreements with other corps.
If not, well pew pew.
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Raste
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.15 15:38:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
I think you're in the right. Basically they're saying they value personal vendettas over their relationship with your corp, so let them reap the consequences of that decision.
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R'adeh
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Posted - 2007.01.15 15:39:00 -
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They shot one of your corp, so if I were you I'd kill 'em all. On the other hand, I understand understand why they want revenge.
I'm sure they thought about the consequences BEFORE attacking your corp m8, so nothing wrong in setting them to neutral.
Pew pew
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Posted - 2007.01.15 15:41:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Raste
Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
I think you're in the right. Basically they're saying they value personal vendettas over their relationship with your corp, so let them reap the consequences of that decision.
I agree my personal view on this is that because i am a ex diplomat no matter what anyone does you must take the higher ground and seek a better approach of this cos im sure if this was all explained and discussed the people's who's ships were lost would have been replaced. Incedents happy it just depends how we react to them if they get worse or not.
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cptblood
Exanimo Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.15 15:43:00 -
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I would talk ceo to ceo before posting on forums.
NO exanimo are to post here until further notice.
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Heikki
Gallente
Wreckless Abandon
The UnAssociated
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Posted - 2007.01.15 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Phonix
Just wanted to see others views about this.
You were wrong if you revoked their blue status without warning them in advance, regardless of what their individual members did.
The rest are up to diplomats to negotiate.
-Lasse
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Vengeance of the Fallen
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Posted - 2007.01.15 16:18:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
IMO, your applicant was an idiot to be shooting at neutrals when he knew he would be joining a corp who would probably have standings with them. I would apologise on behalf of your idiot corpmate, accept the losses on both sides and move on.
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Darknesss
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 16:19:00 -
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I didnt know this corporation was EXAN. Had i known this i would not have said kill them all. Theyre good friends of ours, and ex-alliance mates. They are completely honourable corp, they would not intentionally blow up a blue, and if any members did, they would face being kicked from the corp.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.01.15 16:22:00 -
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Who cares? One less blue for you
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.15 16:23:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Who cares? One less blue for you
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fire 59
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.15 16:24:00 -
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My personal opinion is that he should have not agressed these people en route to joining a new corp without knowing standing's. Imo, they killed him and it should have cleaned the slate, but tbh, they should have made contact first so you knew what was going on before it happened.
He should have engaged his brain but so should have they.
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Rule2k
Fate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 16:38:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
im still trying to find the spelling mistakes in ur post phonix
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Raid
Caldari
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.01.15 16:44:00 -
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your both wrong.
The applicant to your corp is about as dumb as can be for shooting at people on his way to apply to your corp. People like that are more trouble than their worth I would have booted him out just for being stupid.
Exanimo is also in the wrong here for blowing up a blue target without talking to the CEO first to tell them about the situation.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.15 17:17:00 -
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well if id be goin to apply somewhere and see targets around id shoot em too,
its still a game somewhat ;)
so id say u did the right thing with setting it blue, its about honour and stuff.
give em hell
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Razor Jaxx
Fate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 17:33:00 -
[69]
Oh, the drama..
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Fate.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 17:45:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Kayosoni
Originally by: Anna Neura
Originally by: Kayosoni
Edited by: Kayosoni on 15/01/2007 10:48:42
Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
just padding your postcount tbh.
oh wait...
but seriously, I don't think anyone gives a ****.
Your hilarious!
but seriously, go away.
who are you and why do you think you even matter?
rofl@ animeloving emokid.
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Posted - 2007.01.15 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Misha Mosqito
So you couldn't make a descission as a ceo by your self, but went running to the forums...respect.
Pretty sure he already made his decision, and just wanted opinion.
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1. A guy killed 2 of our bs's, then went hiding in a "friendly" corp 1 hour later.
Hiding is a strong word. Whether or not he knew you were going to be blue or not, he saw you as a valid target, and your pilots should have seen him as a valid threat.
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2. Exanimo has never had any issues with Fate, and this was a matter between our guys and him.
I disagree. Once he showed blue, he was no longer a valid target. Perhaps your pilots are the ones that need discipline in discerning friend or foes.
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3. If you kill one of our guys, deal with it and don't whine about it afterwards, nor hide in a friendly corp.
I don't think there's any hiding or whining going on here.
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5. Also, if your guy came up to Pure Blind to join your corp you should have told him who's blue and who's not before he went roaming about. You said it yourself:
Phonix > yes, but I told him before he joined we have very few blues.
Or maybe your pilots should be more careful? I've been traveling the Pure Blind pipe for a long time myself, and I still have a hard time distinguishing "blue neutrals" from "red neutrals". You showed up on his overview, he shot. Pretty simple.
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6. As of this Exanimo has Fate to negative standing.
I'm sure they are disappointed.
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Damn what happens to all those people whose self esteem doesnt depend on eve then?
Oh right, I'm asking in the wrong place
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Aeaus
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.01.16 00:10:00 -
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The question is, did the pilot in question have any clue he would be shooting a neutral blue? Hell, I'm sure the guys he killed would probably have gone after him givin the chance.
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Hamatitio
Caldari
Fate.
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Posted - 2007.01.16 01:48:00 -
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Just told not to shoot tri.
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Posted - 2007.01.16 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: Hamatitio
Just told not to shoot tri.
<3 yeah dont shoot me
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Posted - 2007.01.16 02:49:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Phonix
Tonight a pilot in EVE that has been a friend of ours for along time. Was heading to apply to our corp Fate. On the way to join our corporation he attacked some people and killed two battleship's. After he killed these two ships he joined Fate. Then he was accepted into our corp and was traveling to meet us when he got jumped by a corp that has a +10 standing with Fate. To find out later that those people who he killed before applying wanted revenge. Even though he was now wearing Fate. tag's. He was shot at by +10 standing corp and killed.
So myself the CEO of the corp set them back to a 0.0 standing. Was this wrong for me to do or should I keep these people who shoot +10's at a positive standing. I think not.
Just wanted to see others views about this.
Does it really matter since your going back to WoW tomorrow?
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KilRoy076
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.16 03:47:00 -
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Edited by: KilRoy076 on 16/01/2007 03:49:35
Less blue is always good u always said, besides the poster above me is correct, u will be back playing wow tommorow so what does it matter.
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