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Strel Samodelkin Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:05:00 - [1] So let me get this straight, if I join a corp, another corp can just "declare war" (Privateers) on my corp, and attack my members, and I would NOT receive Concord protection? WHY?! Thats not good. Its why I'm not in a corp right now. I have a really great idea for a Caldari corporation with a "profit sharing" concept that would make it very successful! Corp wars should only be declared if BOTH sides declare war on each other. It should be CONSENTED. Better yet, Concorde should protect the corp that does not want to go to war. Agree or disagree?
Kazuma Saruwatari	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:06:00 - [2] No. What you're suggesting is akin to asking EVE to turn into WoW. And we dont like WoW
EnglishBob 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:07:00 - [3] I'll give you three posts before someone mentions WoW. ------------------
lofty29 Athanasius Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:07:00 - [4] Yey for WoW ---
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:07:00 - [5] Booooooooring... --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune
Xendie Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:09:00 - [6] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin So let me get this straight, if I join a corp, another corp can just "declare war" (Privateers) on my corp, and attack my members, and I would NOT receive Concord protection? WHY?! Thats not good. Its why I'm not in a corp right now. I have a really great idea for a Caldari corporation with a "profit sharing" concept that would make it very successful! Corp wars should only be declared if BOTH sides declare war on each other. It should be CONSENTED. Better yet, Concorde should protect the corp that does not want to go to war. Agree or disagree? EvE is a PVP game it is not wow. Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent? Quote: jake sisko > its f-e's bob dev alt making lag
Araxmas Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:09:00 - [7] This thread died quicker than that puppy in my toilet. --------
Strel Samodelkin Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:09:00 - [8] Originally by: EnglishBob I'll give you three posts before someone mentions WoW. I don't care for WoW either, but as a Caldari citizen with high Caldari faction, I should be able to be provided with Concord protection AT LEAST in 0.5 space and above. What stops this from doing what the so called "Privateers" from cycling corps in and out of their alliance, so they can gank other, smaller, corporations at will? This is a really bad mechanism, and it has to change.
Raivi Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:10:00 - [9] EvE is un-consented (as you put it) pvp. Welcome to EvE.
Strel Samodelkin Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:12:00 - [10] Fair enough. If this is the case I should be able to join any Caldari NPC Corporation at will. I'm currently stuck in "Caldari Provisions"
stoats Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:13:00 - [11] Solution: If you are a small corp don't have members that tick people off enough to drop 50m on the dec.
TheAwakening Caldari Post-Terran Mining Corporation	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:15:00 - [12] Originally by: TheAwakening NERF PRIVATEERS THREAD #328742387 +1.
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:16:00 - [13] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Originally by: EnglishBob I'll give you three posts before someone mentions WoW. I don't care for WoW either, but as a Caldari citizen with high Caldari faction, I should be able to be provided with Concord protection AT LEAST in 0.5 space and above. What stops this from doing what the so called "Privateers" from cycling corps in and out of their alliance, so they can gank other, smaller, corporations at will? This is a really bad mechanism, and it has to change. Eves been this way for over three years. Are you actually saying it should change because 'you' don't like it? Originally by: Nev Clavain If a war of such scale does go down the sheer forum activity will probably put the server down for good.
Sul Condbax Open Season	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:16:00 - [14] Learn to defend yourself. Who knows, you might enjoy it.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari Northern Intelligence SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:17:00 - [15] War decs or empire wars should have been consensual PVP. Low secs for non-consensual and null secs for free for all. High secs wars are lame and bad for new players experience. --------- Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria! Kali is for KArebearLIng. I 100% agree with Avon. Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game.
James Snowscoran Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:20:00 - [16] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire War decs or empire wars should have been consensual PVP. Low secs for non-consensual and null secs for free for all. High secs wars are lame and bad for new players experience. What you're describing would make highsec even more of a newbie-sandbox than it already is. But it probably would lead to more people leaving their npc corps and forming corps of their own instead. Not a good idea tho imo. Highsec wars serve a useful function, which is to weed out the people that can't adapt the right mindset from the game, and keep those scared of taking risks from ever accomplishing much. -----
Olixia Castitatis Gallente Svefn-G-Englar Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:24:00 - [17] Gods, please tell me this thread is a troll thread... ----------------------- <Sig goes here>
DarkMatter Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:27:00 - [18] Quote: War decs or empire wars should have been consensual PVP. Low secs for non-consensual and null secs for free for all. High secs wars are lame and bad for new players experience. So true... But we all know the DEV's are PK'ers from UO, so this will never change... Building the homestead
Roy Batty68 Caldari Immortal Dead	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:27:00 - [19] Originally by: Olixia Castitatis Gods, please tell me this thread is a troll thread... Troll troll troll your bait thread gently down the forums... ------------------- ... [OK] ... zOMG!
Strel Samodelkin Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:34:00 - [20] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire War decs or empire wars should have been consensual PVP. Low secs for non-consensual and null secs for free for all. High secs wars are lame and bad for new players experience. Exactly! The current situation really discourages people from joining newbie helping organizations such as Eve University, that assist new players with learning the game.
Anatolius Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:35:00 - [21] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin So let me get this straight, if I join a corp, another corp can just "declare war" (Privateers) on my corp, and attack my members, and I would NOT receive Concord protection? WHY?! Because a state of war exists between the Privateers and your corporation. War is hell. Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Thats not good. Its why I'm not in a corp right now. I have a really great idea for a Caldari corporation with a "profit sharing" concept that would make it very successful! Not if you don't learn how to defend yourself. EVE is a PvP game by design. Might makes right and all that. Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Corp wars should only be declared if BOTH sides declare war on each other. It should be CONSENTED. God, no. That would be an absolutely wonderful thing for Real Life(tm), I must say, but not for EVE. Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Better yet, Concorde should protect the corp that does not want to go to war. Concord can't protect their secret stash of donuts, let alone players. What do you want? They're a corrupt, beauracracy filled with nepotism and all that good stuff. Again, in EVE, might makes right. You won't get very far with any grand plans unless you can defend yourself. And the Privateers are probably the best way of doing that. They're declared against half of the bloody game; even if you don't have the manpower to stand against them, you shouldn't be able to swing a dead Minmatar about without hitting potential allies. And if you're worried about the cost of fighting a war, fly cheaply. Frigate actions are some of the most fun you can have in the game, and one of the best ships to fly in order to learn the mechanics of PvP. "If God be for us, whom can be against us?"
Megadon Caldari Deathshead Inc.	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:38:00 - [22] Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Fair enough. If this is the case I should be able to join any Caldari NPC Corporation at will. I'm currently stuck in "Caldari Provisions" Hey man, don't diss CP. They put the "P" in Provisions. You might go far with them and someday be the CEO even.
Strel Samodelkin Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:41:00 - [23] Originally by: Anatolius Originally by: Strel Samodelkin So let me get this straight, if I join a corp, another corp can just "declare war" (Privateers) on my corp, and attack my members, and I would NOT receive Concord protection? WHY?! Because a state of war exists between the Privateers and your corporation. War is hell. You're wrong there. If a war broke out among factions within a sovereign nation, there would be peace keepers/national guard deployed to prevent the conflict from escalating. This is in the best interest of the power to prevent distabilization and ensure economic security! Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Thats not good. Its why I'm not in a corp right now. I have a really great idea for a Caldari corporation with a "profit sharing" concept that would make it very successful! Not if you don't learn how to defend yourself. EVE is a PvP game by design. Might makes right and all that. I know how to defend myself, but sometimes when I want to do a TRADE RUN in my Badger II, I DO NOT want to deal with pirates in 1.0 space! This is why I pay my Caldari corporate taxes! Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Corp wars should only be declared if BOTH sides declare war on each other. It should be CONSENTED. God, no. That would be an absolutely wonderful thing for Real Life(tm), I must say, but not for EVE. Eve Online is NOT real life, nor should it be modeled after such. Eve Online is for fun/entertainment. If I can't form a corproation in game due to mechanics, thats NOT fun! Especially after I build a website and business plan of operations for the in game corporation. I'm not forming or joining SQUAT until this changes! Originally by: Strel Samodelkin Better yet, Concorde should protect the corp that does not want to go to war. Concord can't protect their secret stash of donuts, let alone players. What do you want? They're a corrupt, beauracracy filled with nepotism and all that good stuff. Again, in EVE, might makes right. You won't get very far with any grand plans unless you can defend yourself. And the Privateers are probably the best way of doing that. They're declared against half of the bloody game; even if you don't have the manpower to stand against them, you shouldn't be able to swing a dead Minmatar about without hitting potential allies. And if you're worried about the cost of fighting a war, fly cheaply. Frigate actions are some of the most fun you can have in the game, and one of the best ships to fly in order to learn the mechanics of PvP. Don't get me wrong, I like PvP. I PvPed in other MMORPSs, a lot. I just want to PvP when I WANT TO PvP. When I want to conduct business, I want to conduct business null
James Snowscoran Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:43:00 - [24] Being in CP is a traumatic experience. I mean, the newb corps are fine, lots of nice people in them...but the normal npc corps that you get thrown into are just full of social rejects that spam the corp channel with inane apeshit -----
TheAwakening Caldari Post-Terran Mining Corporation	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:45:00 - [25] So you're not going to join or form a corp, INCASE privateers war decs you? Ever thought about just flying under the radar and doing it rather than drawing all this attention to yourself?
Strel Samodelkin Caldari	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:54:00 - [26] Originally by: TheAwakening So you're not going to join or form a corp, INCASE privateers war decs you? Ever thought about just flying under the radar and doing it rather than drawing all this attention to yourself? Yes. Someone I know formed a corporation a month ago. They already got war declared on them, and have lost several transports. In secured space. Current system DOES NOT work.
Wraithbane	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:56:00 - [27] Chuckle...Thats the price you pay for being in a player corp...Thats why I'm still with SWA after more than a year...Welcome to Eve....
Ediz Daxx FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.15 20:57:00 - [28] Stop being a victim and people wont wardec you..
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.15 21:00:00 - [29] Privateers have yet to war dec tuxedo. What do I need to do to get their attention? Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin Marcus Thinks Eve who knew!?
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.01.15 21:00:00 - [30] Privateers have yet to war dec tuxedo. What do I need to do to get their attention? Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin Marcus Thinks Eve who knew!?

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