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jack1974
Reikoku
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.01.14 18:56:58 -
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Anya Klibor wrote:sue Abbott wrote:Anya Klibor wrote:sue Abbott wrote:See you at war in 4 hours, my loved ones Tora, you should show everyone how badass Marmite is and make the war mutual. Tryed that one and this http://prntscr.com/9q2vvd Yeah, it was interesting that you made the war mutual and yet he was able to retract it. Does he have an alt with directorship in the executor corp that could have retracted the mutual declaration? I'd get in contact with CCP. They should be able to tell you how he was able to retract it when you did have it mutual. EDIT: So it appears that when a war is made mutual, after a week of the war being live the aggressing corporation can retract the war without penalty and having to submit any type of mail to the defending corporation to do so. So, Tora simply retracted the war because he bit off more than he can chew. More than likely he won't make it mutual, so you'll have to pay for it every week. I'm sure he's banking on you running out of ISK before his pilots run out of stupidity (which is fair, because their stupidity is endless).
As always I enjoy watching these wars.
Curious if Tora will care about the war report since he will now be the defender. Point being, if he wanted to fix a war report after losing a fight, we would clearly see who he is paying to "fix" the war as they would assist him. I've always been a fan of attacking without breaks until the opponent no longer logs in anymore.
If Tora really do have 500 bill, congrats by the way  , why would he care about 2 billion isk in ships? In this case membership is worth much more than kredits. CEO's need members just as much as FC's need numbers. If this war does carry on I'm curious to see who wins the log in count.
A little bit of history: When PoH war decced Marmite the story went along the lines of "Wait until Marmite logs in and then watch their every move until they made a mistake." As the war continued past a month Marmite log ins dropped drastically and their only means of protection was sticking together during concrete timezone spans.
Now we can compare this to a few other wars Marmite has been in and the methods were much more relaxed.
1. Merc corp only logs in during 1 timezone
2. Merc corp flies between 2 hubs and if nothing is there log off
3. Sit on undock until Marmite comes into local
4. Take over Amarr and let Marmite infest Rens, Dodixie, Hek, and Jita
To close the loop, I'm interested to the see the commitments of the groups involved on both sides. Will Marmite have total hub denial? Will a merc group move into Uedama? Will Marmite hire RvB or Brave?
Much can happen these next few weeks. Keep up the fights and the narratives  |
jack1974
Reikoku
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.01.20 14:40:37 -
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Fybs wrote:Well said. Everyone knows who marmite is. I know even in a years time when I pass back through HS. and I see a marmite member doing his thing or players in null sec talking about them. I will think to myself.... I was part of that 
I think it's better on the other side of the fence when seeing Marmite.
Killed his ship
Killed his ship
Killed his fleet
Podded him
Podded him
There's his logi
Podded him
Podded him
There's his booster
Podded her
Podded him
Have 3 of his corpse
and so on and so forth.
Fybs, I don't know if I'd return to high-sec if I had never won a war there  |
jack1974
Reikoku
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.03.21 11:34:18 -
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Ro Fenrios wrote:Rabble and Marmites having good relations (?) may have had something to do with this. I was pretty surprised when Vandetta just said outright 'Nope' as they realized size of the newbro fleet they were gonna face. Were they not paid by PIRAT to assist?
I must ask though. By the time the mercs had formed up, we had pretty much burnt down nearly all of PIRAT's pocos. Why turn up and fight when objective was already lost hours ago?
Also you seemed to have very mixed doctrine. Were each merc group fighting themselves or did you make unified effort during the fight?
Since I don't have a dog in this fight I can be honest about everything and lay it out.
To start out, Noragen Neirfallas of Rabble was a long time member of Marmite. Rightfully so the loyalty to his friends still exists therefore a line of communication probably existed. Since PIRAT and Marmite are always at war it makes sense for Marmite to indirectly assist. I'm not sure how it happened but I bet conversations were had.
In regards to Vendetta, from what I hear, they are happy killing freighters in Jita so I don't think much will change for their political landscape. Maybe the other mercs will see VMC didn't stand up for merc life and put them on "the list?" Who knows.
Knowing how a lot of these groups work and who makes up the majority of the member bases, I wouldn't be surprised if the formup took at least an hour or two. Say what you want but fighting in high-sec still requires scouting and theory crafting. Multiply this task by the ego's in the room and you're looking at a lot of tension which equates to delays. TLDR, I bet the fleet started to form when Ivy was scouted.
To add to what I said above about ego's, every merc group since the beginning of time has believed their ship fittings to be the hot new bizz never tried before. Trying to convince each group to all fit the same way would take a millennium. In my opinion it was said best on reddit; "Dear PIRAT, the rest of eve has already figured out tech 3's just steal their fits, because yours, well atleast I got my daily dose of humour." Now this has a lot of truth to it being t3 fits are pretty nonnegotiable on what works or is best but it's also not fair to PIRAT because they are a very good high sec merc group. They and the other merc groups deserve a lot of credit but yes there is room for change.
With all of this said I'll end on something I used to preach when I was in high-sec. Fighting carebears will make you weak.
To note: Don't get me started on Ivy League. We all know they aren't a new bro only entity so merc shooting a harmless entity is BS. They are a sanctuary.... |
jack1974
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
211
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Posted - 2017.05.06 16:47:02 -
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Vipsan Agrippa wrote:
The Role of an alliance leader is to forge relationships with other leaders and call apon their support. Strategy is about bringing numbers to the field when the time arises, strategy requires shaping the battle environment to suit your forces.
Leadership is about picking your fights, maintaining morale and rebuilding.
What?
Last I checked, asking for help means "can't do it alone". To me this reads as, Khromius and his leadership don't feel their members are good enough to beat Marmite so assistance is required.
The strategy every time is to win. VMG needs the other mercs to win..... Plain and simple. |
jack1974
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2017.05.10 19:15:07 -
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Why do coalitions have to exist in highsec? Honest question..... |
jack1974
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
223
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Posted - 2017.05.14 02:14:00 -
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I have to give a lot of props to Marmite and its member base. The "stigma" in high-sec these days is to never lose your ship no matter what. This has lead to massive blue donuts, inflated killboards, premature ego's, and bad fights. Today I'd like to show my respect to Marmite and thank them for continuing to undock even after losing multiple ships.
When I was an active mercenary in high-sec I too echoed the narrative to strive for a 100% efficient killboard and a flawless war history to get more contracts. Having flown with some of the best pilots in Eve in all security spaces I honestly regret having not lived a little more when I flew in high-sec. Instead of taking fun fights I took guaranteed fights. Instead of taking outnumbered fights I waited for more members to come online.
With this said and have been a mercenary all of these years the one key thing I've learned is this; fulfilling the contract is priority number 1. Everything else? Waste of time......... No one truly cares about the killboard..... or how long you made the enemies wait for you to undock.....
Fly dangerous o7 Good Job Marmite |
jack1974
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
279
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Posted - 2017.06.09 11:46:19 -
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Yaosus wrote:
I am waiting for the day when you will actually be able to brag about Marmites killing VMG not posting random stuff the Lord handed to you :)
The Cavemen fought well. Suffered losses and repelled the attack. GF to them! Restecpa :)
Call me ye Lorde' and Savior then.
Real talk though, its easy for you to talk big when you have most of highsec blued. |
jack1974
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
282
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Posted - 2017.06.12 04:25:29 -
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Kaely Tanniss wrote:
Lol..my next guess, if not PL, would probably be something like Test...or NC. Most likely the latter imo.
gnshadowninja wrote:
Don't think RKK would take you either with the amount of sh*t posting you do.
*Grabs Popcorn*
I wish it on no player in Eve for other players to wish them no content or recruitment.
I obviously disagree with your current corporation direction but you both are humans I do care about both of you. I wish you all the best in Eve because at times it can be our escape from Real Life. Hopefully we can all continue to travel on the high road .... |
jack1974
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
286
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Posted - 2017.06.14 18:49:46 -
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Yaosus wrote:
Each time Tora gets spanked hard and out of arguments, and today he got a pretty nasty spanking from OniNeko
Did I miss a fight or something on the killboards? I'm seeking out this "nasty spanking". |
jack1974
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
287
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Posted - 2017.06.15 14:42:26 -
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Yaosus wrote:
Men will follow if you actually know how to LEAD them. Khrom and Natural know how to lead by example and they will risk billion isk ships to jump without hesitation and help any of the VMG members who are in trouble. This is not something that I "believe or suspect" this actually happened to me on more than one occasion. Same goes for every other member in VMG. This is just one of the many aspects that makes VMG very powerful as a group.
I'm still wanting to know what leadership you are speaking of.
For all we know the merc industry went inactive after the watchlist nerf so Khrom recruited and blued everyone he could so he could dec as many people as possible while not being hunted. Once he lured all of the actives in with "the most wars" he then crapped on all of his blues and has been slowly merging them into his corp.
Khrom being a parasite does not equal Leadership.
To be honest the greatest example of leadership in high-sec today is Tora. Tora has all of the odds against him yet he is still undocking and still leading by example for his loyal members. Its unfortunate OniNeko Jin took the easy way out but not all boys become men.
VMG will gain my respect the day they are challenged and they pull through. Until then Khrom and Natural aren't true leaders, they are just place holders while they maintain the most wars. But what do you all care, you don't need my respect. |
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jack1974
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
288
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Posted - 2017.06.15 15:15:17 -
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Gai Heiyuu wrote:
... Tora, undock and lead by example? Another jaded nullbear enters the arena...
So far the only portion of Marmite brave enough to undock vs us, is the Agil crew. (Props to them, btw. Cool guys)
Considering my highsec alliance never lost a war against any merc AND decced every merc during our time AND has killed more marmite than anyone else in existence,
You are wrong. Go back to your poverty methods of scraping together isk.
My statements of leadership for Tora and against VMG still stand. |
jack1974
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2017.06.15 22:19:20 -
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Yaosus wrote:
If you hate Khrom, Shadow and some other guys this doesn't mean that you have to lose your dignity and publicly kiss Tora's beehind. As a sidenote, your kisses might make him feel a little better, we all know his ass got kicked very hard during the past two weeks. You learned to discipline yourself in RKK, although some former colleagues of yours did not speak highly of you anyway.
To prove you wrong, just this time, the parasite you hate so much organizes ops, does the footwork by himself, hunts and kills with the group, jumps in to save any alliance member in trouble, srps very expensive ****, splits the loot taking equal shares and the list could go on. And he's not the only VMG leader doing this. You simply hate VMG, I do not know the reason and I really do not want to but being stupid on the forums doesn't help you much at what you're doing right now in PL.
As I said earlier, it is just a game. Some people keep forgetting this. No Tora is not a good leader at all. Maybe in the past he used to be...but now he's not.
Go ahead and search my character name for having ever said the word "hate" towards VMG. I can tell you right now I don't "hate" VMG or "hate" anyone in it. I've expressed multiple times I disagree with VMG's direction hence why I even care to post. Which was the last alliance I disagreed with in High-sec? It was Marmite and my group started the "mermaid" term. I'm a pretty easy character to figure out if you ever took the time to predict my next moves. I don't forget conversations and I'm true to my values.
Regarding people not speaking very highly of me, I do feel sorry they feel that way. I've tolerated some of the wildest personalities in Eve ranging from Uncle Bao, Kai, Vegasmirage, PK, havo, and a multitude of others. If anything I'm probably the last person to give up on another and I've always been this way..... hence why I always white knight. If the people you say have spoken ill of me are in your alliance then I would find that to be a sad situation. Gourack, shadow, mackers, and the list goes on.... The last time I've spoken with any of them on comms the conversation was probably full of laughter. As adults I have faith they would appreciate my viewpoints as I have always respected theirs.
On the topic of Tora, yes I do think he is showing leadership qualities by sticking by his guns and seeing this thing out. When times are tough groups do falter but only one person can truly bring everything back in and that is the leader. Giving out isk and splitting loot is not a leader, thats a good friend. Leaders don't have to be your friend to be successful. |
jack1974
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
303
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Posted - 2017.06.21 03:13:01 -
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Kaely Tanniss wrote:
The same can be said about every Null sec alliance or any other PvP group in the game. Only a fool takes a fight he knows or thinks he can't win.
False, I'm sure you've heard of B-R?
PL and NC. didn't commit because we would "win", we committed because all of our assets were being threatened. This a flaw of highsec by the way, a lack of something to fight over. Nonetheless when USTZ we already knew we were going to lose but we continued to jump in Titans/Supers until downtime.
Why?
Because going balls to the wall is legendary!
Call us a fool or not, sometimes the game should just be played. #nopoors |
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