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Silentbrick Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.01.16 05:19:00 - [1] Ivy League and Eve Uni are once again engaged in Hostilities with Privateers, with warfare starting tonight. We have fought Privateers before and they fought well and they fought clean, without smack and the Uni had alot of fun doing it. I know that we'll have alot of fun this time as well, and we look forward to fighting them again. We will stick to our normal rules though and refrain from talking in local, to the war targets. Good hunting and good luck.
Cordelia Simonova Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.16 06:00:00 - [2] From my experience, a very memorable and fun war. See you on the field.
Rick Thwaites Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.16 06:29:00 - [3] You guys should talk some! I try to make witty (not always smack-y) comments in local, and I don't like feeling like I'm talking to myself! Looking forward to good fights! I still have some of the setups you gave me in TBB, Silent! And I know how E-UNI fights. No easy targets here. Hope you guys kick my posterior once just to show the others how it's done! -- Max sig dimensions are 400W x 120H - Cathath ([email protected]) Purple matches your eyes a little better, Cathath. = )! Not the first time I have been told I am too big...
oodin Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.16 06:34:00 - [4] have fun guys o/ give SABRE some manloving from me
Sorted Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.16 10:45:00 - [5] Was fun last time, looking forward to some good fights.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.16 10:53:00 - [6] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 16/01/2007 10:49:42 I don't mind privateers being easy-mode nubs too much tbh, but you should really leave corps like eve-uni alone imo. It actually makes sense btw. If you let the nubs get on their feet, they'll be that much better targets later on when they've grown up a bit. Old blog Originally by: Vriezuh Naz: John is a realist
Sadao Minmatar Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.16 12:07:00 - [7] Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 16/01/2007 10:49:42 I don't mind privateers being easy-mode nubs too much tbh, but you should really leave corps like eve-uni alone imo. It actually makes sense btw. If you let the nubs get on their feet, they'll be that much better targets later on when they've grown up a bit. When our corp still wasnt in PRVTR Alliance, we used to declare war on noobs and stuff. You would be amazed by the amount of thanks we got for showing them the real side of EVE and giving them nice figts :) ---
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.16 12:14:00 - [8] Originally by: Sadao Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 16/01/2007 10:49:42 I don't mind privateers being easy-mode nubs too much tbh, but you should really leave corps like eve-uni alone imo. It actually makes sense btw. If you let the nubs get on their feet, they'll be that much better targets later on when they've grown up a bit. When our corp still wasnt in PRVTR Alliance, we used to declare war on noobs and stuff. You would be amazed by the amount of thanks we got for showing them the real side of EVE and giving them nice figts :) Fair point, however, it'd be far more straightforward in the case of Eve UNiversity to simply ask them if they'd like a wardec for a week or two as training. Other corps I couldnt care less about, they can deal with a wardec fine and you won't keep it up forever anyway if they play it right. But well, Eve uni is something special in my book, just give them a bit more consideration. Old blog Originally by: Vriezuh Naz: John is a realist
Ugluuk Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.16 12:37:00 - [9] Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 16/01/2007 10:49:42 I don't mind privateers being easy-mode nubs too much tbh, but you should really leave corps like eve-uni alone imo. It actually makes sense btw. If you let the nubs get on their feet, they'll be that much better targets later on when they've grown up a bit. I have to say that i dont consider them a noob corp anymore..They have come a long way with the noob school and have established themselfes as a worthy opponent and got some good leaders for the youngsters they take in.. They proved it during the big blue period and even tho they lost it was impressive to see what they got together sometimes.. I look forward to another war, will be great fun and nothing is beter than a silent local.. My killboard stats in privateers
18 Rabbit	Posted - 2007.01.16 12:58:00 - [10] Originally by: Ugluuk Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 16/01/2007 10:49:42 I don't mind privateers being easy-mode nubs too much tbh, but you should really leave corps like eve-uni alone imo. It actually makes sense btw. If you let the nubs get on their feet, they'll be that much better targets later on when they've grown up a bit. I have to say that i dont consider them a noob corp anymore..They have come a long way with the noob school and have established themselfes as a worthy opponent and got some good leaders for the youngsters they take in.. They proved it during the big blue period and even tho they lost it was impressive to see what they got together sometimes.. I look forward to another war, will be great fun and nothing is beter than a silent local.. Turnover at E-Uni is pretty high, which is to be expected and is kind of the point. So the bulk of the membership is quite young with a few vets sprinkled in. An occasional war-dec is good for the Uni. But constant war decs are a drag, since recruitment is shut down and classes are stopped. Would-be miners and industrialists are the hardest hit, along with the most inexperienced members. Since E-Uni has a pretty open recruitment policy, any one who plans a wardec is able to get their alts in first to spy, which happens all the time. The Uni never has that advantage.
Irrilian Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.01.16 12:59:00 - [11] I believe an occasional war is good for E-uni, it offers an opportunity to show new players what is after all the main aspect of Eve. While in-corp tournaments, free for all furballs, lessons, practicals: forays into low sec and 0.0, chasing and baiting ore thieves, etc offer a chance to demonstrate and practice pvp skills, nothing quite compares to a real war. Often you find a lot of players whom would never even considered pvp find they really enjoy it. The key word being occasional, as it does interrupt other teaching activities and necessitates the need to lock down recruitment and thus stop welcoming new players. Though any non hostile is of course very welcome to hang out in our in game channel "Eve University", be it to chat or ask questions etc. Look forward to crossing swords with Beyond Divinity Inc. PIs and Forensic Accountants: adding risk vs reward for scams and thievery
Nepereta Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.16 13:18:00 - [12] Originally by: Rick Thwaites You guys should talk some! I try to make witty (not always smack-y) comments in local, and I don't like feeling like I'm talking to myself! Looking forward to good fights! I still have some of the setups you gave me in TBB, Silent! And I know how E-UNI fights. No easy targets here. Hope you guys kick my posterior once just to show the others how it's done! There is lots of good reasons why you shouldn't say anything in local. Its so easy to cause offence with someone even when you don't intend to. Given eve is a multicultural game just about anything that can be said can be construed in a negative light.
Zaphod Jones Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.01.16 14:15:00 - [13] \o/ Nep is in Privateers, excellent, now i get to kill him like i always wanted from KNONI days
solarwinds ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.16 17:20:00 - [14] I know EvE-U is more than just a bunch of nubs (it's a bunch of bloodthirsty nubs with some combat experience!), but in all seriousness, wardeccing them is kinda weak, why not wait for the students to move on and then wardec the alliances they move to? On the other hand, maybe setting up an agreement with EvE-U would make some sense. One week a month, the Privateer Alliance wardecs Ivy League and both sides go at each other. It's legitimate and good experience for both sides. Some of those nubbins in The U may well end up as Privateers anyways! Originally by: Lygos Plus y'know we're the f#cking Inst'l Stahbase Syndicate.
Savage Creampuff Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.16 18:03:00 - [15] I have much respect for Ivy League. From my perspective, they are more organized and efficient than the 'brand name' alliances. Having said that, I made my bones on IVY and am looking forward to many good fights. Good hunting and good luck.
Surreptitious Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.17 00:00:00 - [16] Good hunting and good luck guys. Like I said yesterday, I wouldnt have done it if it wasnt paid for. I respect what you guys do for the game. It should be short and sweet with both parties coming out on top having fun. Syrup
Sorja E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.17 00:06:00 - [17] War declaring EVE-Uni? Right ____________________ A gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipe, but who does not.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari eXin Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.17 00:10:00 - [18] I've said it before and I'll say it again: If I ever form my own corporation, the first thing I'm going to do is wardec E-UNI. _ Do Unto Others.
Hei'di Tempt Fate Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.17 00:40:00 - [19] That's extraordinary! No smack during the period of war would be great! There r some people who rather try to beat us in local chat than in space. Wish u and ur mates a lot of fun and some good experience. cheers Hei'di Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good. -- Rom 12:21
Leto Twin Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.17 02:39:00 - [20] Generally we are sponsored for the fights. We don't always choose them. But if indeed this one was chosen by us, it would be for plenty of good reason, these guys can fight. I bet their a lot of their new members can whoop some veteran posterior. Looking forwards to the fights, winning and losing some. = ).
Sun Win Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.01.17 04:03:00 - [21] Hearts to E-Uni. From all the people I've been talking to at the Uni it looks like they are more excited than afraid of the fighting. I remember when I was in school, undocking in a punisher and getting my first killmail against a t2 something or other. I was proud and excited and full of adrenaline. Let me tell you, when you get a bunch of 2 month old players together and explain to them "if we stick together and fly smart, we can take down characters that are 2 years older than ourselves" the reaction you get involves a lot of cheering and then comparing ship setups. So long as people don't keep the Uni constantly War Decc'ed, this can do nothing but make it a better place to learn. New to Eve? Learn to Fly - join channel: "Eve University" or read here
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.17 04:19:00 - [22] Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Sadao Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 16/01/2007 10:49:42 I don't mind privateers being easy-mode nubs too much tbh, but you should really leave corps like eve-uni alone imo. It actually makes sense btw. If you let the nubs get on their feet, they'll be that much better targets later on when they've grown up a bit. When our corp still wasnt in PRVTR Alliance, we used to declare war on noobs and stuff. You would be amazed by the amount of thanks we got for showing them the real side of EVE and giving them nice figts :) Fair point, however, it'd be far more straightforward in the case of Eve UNiversity to simply ask them if they'd like a wardec for a week or two as training. Other corps I couldnt care less about, they can deal with a wardec fine and you won't keep it up forever anyway if they play it right. But well, Eve uni is something special in my book, just give them a bit more consideration. Seem to remember Eve Uni were one of the tougher alliances we have fought due to 1) Uber Vets who are in euni as nothing left in game to interest them 2) Hordes of nubs in frigs happy to sit on gates for hour on end. Also the very nature of their newness = crappy loot unless you catch one of the vets. They in general seemed pretty sound people as well. However, it is obvious to me that the noobs need freeing from their alliance masters chains, forcing them to mine veldspar and run lv1 missions so i will do my damndest. FREE THE NOOBS FROM THEIR SHACKLES! POP THE VETS SKUNK My speeeling is my own and dos not represant the Privateer Corporation or Privateer alliance who incidentally are recruting pilots and corporations - Evemail me for details
Pallidum Treponema KIA Corp	Posted - 2007.01.17 06:14:00 - [23] Good luck, Privateers. You'll need it. As someone once said, there isn't a more bloodthirsty PvPer than an E-UNI noob. I should know, I used to be one.
Sorted Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.17 13:36:00 - [24] Originally by: solarwinds I know EvE-U is more than just a bunch of nubs (it's a bunch of bloodthirsty nubs with some combat experience!), but in all seriousness, wardeccing them is kinda weak, why not wait for the students to move on and then wardec the alliances they move to? On the other hand, maybe setting up an agreement with EvE-U would make some sense. One week a month, the Privateer Alliance wardecs Ivy League and both sides go at each other. It's legitimate and good experience for both sides. Some of those nubbins in The U may well end up as Privateers anyways! I like that idea - But I thik they should be the ones fronting the bill
Evenfall Phoenix	Posted - 2007.01.17 14:46:00 - [25] As surrup said someone payed for this war. So it was not us choosing to do it. I have much respect for eve-uni, and before the war I would talk to their training run blobs in local whenever I saw one. I look forward to fighting you guys, good luck!
Kaar Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.01.17 15:29:00 - [26] Originally by: Devilish Ledoux I've said it before and I'll say it again: If I ever form my own corporation, the first thing I'm going to do is wardec E-UNI. I think every new corp gets a free war with eve university when it is formed. --- ---
Metsook Mekhon Hesger	Posted - 2007.01.17 17:55:00 - [27] Originally by: Rod Blaine Fair point, however, it'd be far more straightforward in the case of Eve UNiversity to simply ask them if they'd like a wardec for a week or two as training. Other corps I couldnt care less about, they can deal with a wardec fine and you won't keep it up forever anyway if they play it right. But well, Eve uni is something special in my book, just give them a bit more consideration. Totally agree with this. Eve Uni is a great idea and offers an awesome service. If asked, I'm sure they would accept a chance for it's members to engage in some fighting. I would have given them some consideration out of respect alone.
Jarling Fang Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.17 19:49:00 - [28] Edited by: Jarling Fang on 17/01/2007 19:47:54 Edited by: Jarling Fang on 17/01/2007 19:46:07 Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 16/01/2007 10:49:42 I don't mind privateers being easy-mode nubs too much tbh, but you should really leave corps like eve-uni alone imo. It actually makes sense btw. If you let the nubs get on their feet, they'll be that much better targets later on when they've grown up a bit. One idea that PA has been kicking around for some time is to start an alliance corp specifically for new players that are interested in learning to PvP. I was a PvP nub when I joined PA (I still am actually) and I've learned more in the past few weeks about PvP than I did in over a year of on-and-off playing. When you're at war with half the server population and have lots of people to group with, you NEVER have a problem finding targets or teaming up with people, and you can do it at a time that is convenient for you. It really is a PvP player's dream, AND a great learning experience. EveUni might want to consider some kind of partnership with PA to set up such a corp with us ("YaaarVARD" anyone? ), or at least encourage its members to set up an alt with us to get a taste of PvP.
18 Rabbit	Posted - 2007.01.17 23:47:00 - [29] Originally by: Jarling Fang Edited by: Jarling Fang on 17/01/2007 19:47:54 Edited by: Jarling Fang on 17/01/2007 19:46:07 Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 16/01/2007 10:49:42 I don't mind privateers being easy-mode nubs too much tbh, but you should really leave corps like eve-uni alone imo. It actually makes sense btw. If you let the nubs get on their feet, they'll be that much better targets later on when they've grown up a bit. One idea that PA has been kicking around for some time is to start an alliance corp specifically for new players that are interested in learning to PvP. I was a PvP nub when I joined PA (I still am actually) and I've learned more in the past few weeks about PvP than I did in over a year of on-and-off playing. When you're at war with half the server population and have lots of people to group with, you NEVER have a problem finding targets or teaming up with people, and you can do it at a time that is convenient for you. It really is a PvP player's dream, AND a great learning experience. EveUni might want to consider some kind of partnership with PA to set up such a corp with us ("YaaarVARD" anyone? ), or at least encourage its members to set up an alt with us to get a taste of PvP. That's a terrific idea. Sort of internships for those who want more pvp. Though, honestly, the Uni has been under attack quite a bit lately anyway -- probably more than is good for it. A war every now and then is great, but the constant war-decs are a little problem.
Firane Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.01.18 00:27:00 - [30] Go get 'em E-UNI. Maybe I should come up to Korsiki and pew pew with you guys like old times. ---
MacGrowler III	Posted - 2007.01.19 01:59:00 - [31] However much peole want to paint the Privateers as the bad guys in this war. I think it's only fair to point out that the PA's are only doing what they do best. They have received a contract and are making good on it. I am sure both PA and IVY will havee fun. If anyone wishes to point the finger or have a troll, surely it should be with the parties who have paid for the contract ? Normal Caveats apply : 1. This is a personal view, not associated with any Corp or Alliance, living or undead. 2. No small furry animals where harmed in the posting of these comments, some may have been stroked in an inappropriate manner but that doesn't count.
Kanae Minmatar Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.19 02:12:00 - [32] Um what makes you think its a contract? I seriously doubt they do
Silentbrick Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.01.19 04:41:00 - [33] The Privateers have said that they were paid to war dec us. I'm certain they wouldn't have done so otherwise. The Uni generally doesn't drop anything but T1 loot when we die, so nobody makes money deccing us. Oh and we have teeth too. Newbies with great sharp pointy teeth.... makes funny motion with mouth open and fingers clawed in front of his mouth.
Bruno Bonner Gallente Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.01.23 02:02:00 - [34] The war with Privateers has come to an End. We thank everyone involved for showing good sportmanship, a smack-free local and the chance to once more provide a good PvP experience to our students. ------ aka BinderAJ
Ugluuk Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.23 10:40:00 - [35] Respect to IVY for coming after us.. Was a bit many each time you came but atleast Bydi tried to fight back when we had people to do it and was fun the times we met each other.. Good teamwork from both sides and a quiet local..Perfect My killboard stats in privateers
Eskona Runningstar Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.01.23 13:53:00 - [36] Overall it was a nice war Organized PvP corporations in the Privateer alliance were most effective against IVY - we have several heavy losses against "Beyond Divinity Inc." and "Mentally Unstable Enterprises". "Drones of Annihilation" had quite a surprise in store for us when they pulled a bait-and-destroy attack on one of our smaller fleets in Sobaseki (2 AFs baiting for 4 BS and support), we had to dissolve our fleet and regroup, luckily we did not take any losses (barely made it out alive, though). The best loot was dropped by BYDI - kudos to BYDI for actually fielding and risking an Abaddon with Core X-Type LAR faction tank in PvP. It was a b***ch to take down. ---------- These are my views and mine alone. They do not represent the official stance of my corporation or alliance in any way. Eskona Runningstar Eve University IVY League
Ronin Bloodangel Minmatar Drones of Annihilation Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.23 19:11:00 - [37] Thank you, and much respect to you guys and gals in Ivy League as well. I don't care what some of the other Alliances say about you all being a noob Alliance, you guys know how to bring it.

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