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Sonne7
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.12.17 19:17:40 -
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I have been thinking a lot of late, why do I always get pulled back into Eve,time permitting. For me its the people who play the game, the good, the bad and the down right smelly This is also why I take an active part in anti-ganking, its often very hard as the game rules play on-the side of the ganker, we sometimes mess up the odd gank, jam a Cata before he can fire but most of the time end up as a side note on a concord kill mail, or I do , not that I do it for kill mails unlike the gankers. Saying that I may be wrong about the KM, my killboard makes be smile with all the code and goon alliances logos So now you know what I like about Eve. I know the game rules quite well but to all you Vets and armchair generals out there, how can we hurt the gankers and make it a bit harder for them. Any thoughts you have mail me in game if you don't want to reply here, I know some anti-gankers do a great job but numbers are key and i'm happy to say gankers numbers are going down from this time last year, great effort to all anti-gankers, below are my thoughts on more that can be done
War Decs don't work, very well, they just gank in alts and being -10 they can be shot at by anyone anyway.
Why reading about Rhamnousia Nemesis on minerbumping site, I came across LISA Estidal an open supporter of code and her corp The Tebo Corp, not sure weather that corp supports her actions (something to look into) but if code are ganking people and we find it hard to hurt them back and win at this elite pvp they do, maybe its time to start hunting there supporters
So if we played eve the way they play and gank their support, would we have targets? For one all Goons would be targets and any lapdog corps they use , LISA Estidal would be a target and maybe her corp. If you give this a good looking into I bet you would find hundreds of target all over Eve.
If this counter-ganking started I bet more people would take up arms, I'm about to make a Cata alt myself and give it a go, I feel the life of -10 calling and a need to do elite pvp. So get off your fat asses and give this a go, Eve does not have one sandbox with James315 standing there looking smug , we can all stand on it too so join me now After all Code tears must flow...............
What do you think!!!!! |

Melody-Angel
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.12.17 19:32:11 -
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Welcome back Sonne7 i remember you from before i'll give your post a like, and i'll links to this post as i go about my Eve stuff. More that read it the better |

Moon Moon Burdy
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
184
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Posted - 2015.12.17 19:32:53 -
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I think you are expecting to harvest tears from those who know not how to cry.
Are you going to make CODE lose ships? They do that every day! It's part of the program. It's in their blood.
Will you bring CODE fights? They love fights. I'm sure they'll appreciate it.
Will you make CODE regret their actions and change their raison de etre? No, you won't. Have you read minerbumping.com? You can destroy a ship (that was already written off upon undocking), but you cannot kill an ideology.
What you can do is bring content. CODE loves content. We all do. Sounds like a great idea to me.
But can you defeat CODE? Hurt them in some meaningful way? I don't think you can. Have fun stormin' the castle.
Things that went boom
Storytime with Moon Moon New stories (almost) daily!
Promising Young Murderer, Education Appreciated.
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Sonne7
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2015.12.17 19:40:18 -
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Moon Moon Burdy wrote:I think you are expecting to harvest tears from those who know not how to cry.
Are you going to make CODE lose ships? They do that every day! It's part of the program. It's in their blood.
Will you bring CODE fights? They love fights. I'm sure they'll appreciate it.
Will you make CODE regret their actions and change their raison de etre? No, you won't. Have you read minerbumping.com? You can destroy a ship (that was already written off upon undocking), but you cannot kill an ideology.
What you can do is bring content. CODE loves content. We all do. Sounds like a great idea to me.
But can you defeat CODE? Hurt them in some meaningful way? I don't think you can. Have fun stormin' the castle.
maybe you never had time to read it all but no your right killing ganking ships only stops the loss of a freighter or makes them use more to do the job, I am saying look for other ways like attack there supporters, as named in my 1st post do our own ganks, stop the support and Code dies
Long live the fighters |

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
9794
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Posted - 2015.12.17 21:40:44 -
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One NPC poasting alt non-entity washing the other NPC poasting alt non-entity
Saucy
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
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Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
1360
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Posted - 2015.12.17 22:12:12 -
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Sounds like you want to create some content in high sec. James 315 would be proud.
If you want to find more of CODE's supporters, look through the Shareholders page on their website, many individuals and corps/alliances to sift through.
Have fun!
My lord.
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Sonne7
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2015.12.18 00:17:04 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Sounds like you want to create some content in high sec. James 315 would be proud.
If you want to find more of CODE's supporters, look through the Shareholders page on their website, many individuals and corps/alliances to sift through.
Have fun!
oh i have a list thxs, its long and I need a little book , what colour did james315 have, they went on about his damn book for so long ,
btw i almost got ALT 00 pod tonight , thats the trouble with multi boxing or being afk, maybe code need to pod her, is she not violating her own code |

Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium.
5608
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Posted - 2015.12.18 03:29:45 -
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I'm a CODE supporter, if you want to attack me bring it on.
I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1559
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Posted - 2015.12.18 07:56:50 -
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Permits don't pay the bills; the 10 mill fee is there because CCP said so.
The generous supporters who have tons of shares is where the support is, along with the confiscation of decommissioned freighter cargo.
Good luck deccing them all!!!!
Also, I, too, support the Code, and I am shaking with fear as I type this. Woe is me. Woe.

Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Sonne7
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2015.12.18 11:37:02 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:I'm a CODE supporter, if you want to attack me bring it on.
All ready on my list you will be pleased to know, but thxs for putting your self forward, others will be harder to find |
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Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium.
5612
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Posted - 2015.12.18 12:53:54 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Permits don't pay the bills; the 10 mill fee is there because CCP said so. The generous supporters who have tons of shares is where the support is, along with the confiscation of decommissioned freighter cargo. Good luck deccing them all!!!! Also, I, too, support the Code, and I am shaking with fear as I type this. Woe is me. Woe. 
The freighter pilots are the main supporters financially.
Nothing funds a weekend of ganking quite like an X-Feanor freighter.
I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
27862
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Posted - 2015.12.18 13:32:17 -
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Every time I talked about this, the raging carebears attacked me for being me.
Worst gathering of psychopathic freaks I've ever encountered.
Good luck.
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
2438
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Posted - 2015.12.18 13:33:59 -
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Am I the only person who double taked at the title cause I didn't read the first y?
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
27872
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Posted - 2015.12.18 17:14:45 -
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Btw... THIS is how you do a speech properly. And no, sorry, seeing one doesn't mean you suddenly know how to write them.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5083595
You may hire me. :3
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
13148
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Posted - 2015.12.18 17:22:10 -
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sol, formatting like that is plain and simple isd bait and you know it
Edit: infact you are why i know it.
Better the Devil you know.
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
27873
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Posted - 2015.12.18 18:22:24 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:sol, formatting like that is plain and simple isd bait and you know it
Edit: infact you are why i know it. Hahaha :D
Yes. Sometimes. Not always. :) And speeches really need it! :D I just had a good smoke. Transparent paper, btw.
So let me introduce you to
Blocks of text are bad. A screen isn't a book. A screen is a viewport onto an infinitely large, two dimensional surface.
It allows us to do something with text which has it's roots in printers. It let's us introduce "time" as a factor, which can be used to enhance the reader's experience.
It allows a deeper immersion into the written.
Stupid thing is that I can't give you an example for illustration ... ... because it's against the rules to do so ... haha xD
Hm... I know what to do, I'll link it shortly. :)
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1137
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Posted - 2015.12.18 19:25:25 -
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I don't know.
I'm ambivalent about code. I have ice mined since 2013 and have yet to be ganked.
Of course this might have something to to do with flying a skiff with 50k EHP...
That said, if code ganks poorly fit miners that means more ice for me in the long run.
Which leads to my other point with code... They are pretty ineffective at stopping large operation fleets that vacuum up the ice belts. They usually run the skiffs and tanked orcas and frieghters. Code apparently is incapable of stopping these multibox fleets.
So the ice gets mined anyways.
I remember the ice ice interdiction events and I mined throughout.
If you really want to stop code, simply educate people on having better fits.
Code is powerless when it comes to ganking tanked skiffs. They could but they are lazy and it would cost them too much.
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby".
If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down.
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Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
419
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Posted - 2015.12.18 19:56:59 -
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I'm an Agent of the New Order. And I'm in a single person corporation.
You can wardec me if you want. Or just tell us who your main actually is and I will be glad to wardec your corp and save you the 50 million.
on edit: I also missed the first y in the title too and figured it was the return of Mine Teck.
Highsec is worth fighting for.
By choosing to mine in New Order systems, highsec miners have agreed to follow the New Halaima Code of Conduct.-á www.minerbumping.com
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Morgan Agrivar
Happy Endings Massage Parlor
214
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Posted - 2015.12.18 21:06:37 -
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I am also a CODE supporter but please wait until January before you wardec me so you can get my undivided attention. I don't want your 50m to go to waste.
Just something about me...
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Syeed Ameer Ali
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
194
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Posted - 2015.12.18 21:15:05 -
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Best of luck with this endeavor.
everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
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Sonne7
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2015.12.18 23:12:27 -
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Bing Bangboom wrote:I'm an Agent of the New Order. And I'm in a single person corporation.
You can wardec me if you want. Or just tell us who your main actually is and I will be glad to wardec your corp and save you the 50 million.
on edit: I also missed the first y in the title too and figured it was the return of Mine Teck.
No need for wardec, if you're deemed a threat we just gank you, do you not understand this, but thank you for your input and offer of content |

Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY
212
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Posted - 2015.12.19 01:54:43 -
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Sonne7 wrote:Pix Severus wrote:Sounds like you want to create some content in high sec. James 315 would be proud.
If you want to find more of CODE's supporters, look through the Shareholders page on their website, many individuals and corps/alliances to sift through.
Have fun! oh i have a list thxs, its long and I need a little book , what colour did james315 have, they went on about his damn book for so long , btw i almost got ALT 00 pod tonight , thats the trouble with multi boxing or being afk, maybe code need to pod her, is she not violating her own code
If ALT 00 was being afk, why didnt you get the pod? |

Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1564
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Posted - 2015.12.19 03:51:17 -
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Apparently OP is terrified of grown men wearing hamster suits.
IN SPACE.
Also, he didn't get the pod because he is a lying bastard.
As is usual with forum alts.

Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Sonne7
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2015.12.19 07:00:53 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:Apparently OP is terrified of grown men wearing hamster suits. IN SPACE. Also, he didn't get the pod because he is a lying bastard. As is usual with forum alts. 
The pod was out of range unlike Joel kursion the other night which I popped, no need to call me a lying bastard when it's a simple matter of doing a bit of intelligence gathering to find facts 1st before making a fool of one's self.
Unless you don't know how sites like evewho work in which case I would be happy to show you in game how to do a bit of intel gathering,
btw you're right on one thing, I am any alt on this forum and also in the game itself and from the post so far I would be mad not to be, how else would I mine and mission run with my main, game rules allows 3 char per account and as many account as you like, 
__________________________________________________________________________________ I can explain things to you but I can't make you understand |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3718
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Posted - 2015.12.19 07:16:48 -
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As a mercenary alliance that has, on multiple occasions taken contracts directly from the GSF logistics director, as a group of players who largely support CODE. and as individuals who violently impose our will and the will of our clients on others on a routine basis Break-A-Wish Foundation is an organization that openly supports and enables tyranny.
And I challenge anybody to do a god damned thing about it. |

Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1565
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Posted - 2015.12.19 08:33:00 -
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Sonne7 wrote:blahblahimmacowardlyforumaltwhinewhinewhine
Sorry, I don't bother checking on blatant forum alts.
I call you a liar because proofs, you have none.
Also, forum alts are the height of cowardice, even in an online video game.
You ask how you would mine and mission and toodle around if we knew your main?
Easy.
LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
I love how you expect us to take you seriously when you are so afraid you won't even post with your main.
BTW I recommend everybody gank a miner/somebody and then tell the victim Sonne7 hired you to do it.

Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
27918
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Posted - 2015.12.19 09:29:41 -
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I keep reading tranny, tbh.
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Iain Cariaba
2211
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Posted - 2015.12.19 09:31:10 -
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Sonne7 wrote:I... how can we hurt the gankers and make it a bit harder for them. 1. Escort your freighters and use webs to get them into warp. 2. Don't fit freighters for max cargo, fit them for tank. 3. Don't stuff freighters full of cargo worth more than 1bil isk. 4. Don't autopilot in anything. 5. Fly Skiffs/Procurers and fit them for tank, not yield. 6. If going AFK, dock up. 7. Actively play the game. Don't start mining and switch to netflix. 8. Don't bling fit mission ships when t2 fits will do. If a single module costs more than the hull you're putting it on, you're doing something wrong.
Do these, and you make the game harder for gankers, which hurts them.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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Iain Cariaba
2211
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Posted - 2015.12.19 09:35:45 -
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Sonne7 wrote:...how else would I mine and mission run with my main If you think your opinions or ideas would cause people to hunt you down in game, then maybe you should reconsider posting those opinions or ideas, rather than use a forum alt.
Or, simply don't care what others think of you, and welcome the content if people want to hunt you down for your opinions.
Either way, post with your main if you want to be taken seriously.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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Sonne7
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2015.12.19 10:47:08 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote:Sonne7 wrote:...how else would I mine and mission run with my main If you think your opinions or ideas would cause people to hunt you down in game, then maybe you should reconsider posting those opinions or ideas, rather than use a forum alt. Or, simply don't care what others think of you, and welcome the content if people want to hunt you down for your opinions. Either way, post with your main if you want to be taken seriously.
I'm not sure what this forum alt stuff is, i play this character as much as my other character, they just do different things in eve that are not compatible just like people who gank under the code name are Goons or Goon lap dogs alts they are just their other characters
I find the flak very strange or maybe i hit a nerve.....
anyway fly safe all and play eve your way and enjoy it , i do
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