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Goatman NotMyFault Lubrication Industries Fortis Et Certus 214	Posted - 2015.12.18 00:11:34 - [1] - Quote There needs to be a system that cleans up the large amount of posses that aint in use. If a player finds a pos that is offline or active but no shield around, there should be an option to enable the pos to be shut down, unanchored and taken 24 hrs after "enabeling".... When "enabled", the owner will get a warning and he/she/they needs to go to the pos within 24hrs to fuel it and put it online. And if players aint removing the posses, Concord or something comes and blast them down after 3 or 6 months of inactivity This would clean up the endless clutter in High, low and nullsec (and wormspace for that matter). And it would also clean up those that "claims" moons by just anchoring a pos without using it.
Danika Princip GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4033	Posted - 2015.12.18 00:18:02 - [2] - Quote Wardec them, shoot the pos, scoop the mods. Problem solved.
Bobb Bobbington The Cult of the Rare Pepes 180	Posted - 2015.12.18 00:20:38 - [3] - Quote It's not that hard to find an empty pos spot, you can even find some fairly close to Jita if you look around. This is a signature. It has a 25m signature. No it's not a cosmic signature. Probably. Btw my corp's recruiting.
Goatman NotMyFault Lubrication Industries Fortis Et Certus 214	Posted - 2015.12.18 00:22:16 - [4] - Quote Danika Princip wrote: Wardec them, shoot the pos, scoop the mods. Problem solved. Thats the issue... why destroy the controll Tower? why shouldnt that be able to be taken when you can "steal" all the modules? Steal the tower, use it urself or sell it.... recycling recycling recycling...
Goatman NotMyFault Lubrication Industries Fortis Et Certus 214	Posted - 2015.12.18 00:25:18 - [5] - Quote Bobb Bobbington wrote: It's not that hard to find an empty pos spot, you can even find some fairly close to Jita if you look around. That aint the issue... the issue is all the offline and "empty" posses that aint in use... that cant be "taken" and reused or sold. Free moons are everywhere... Im thinking of the possibilities for players to clean up abit and make some isk at it.... And the pos owners that vigilant, can use situation to set up a ambush and snagg some kills
Dirk D'Aguilar Kraken Exploration and Janitorial Services The Bastion 3	Posted - 2015.12.18 00:47:23 - [6] - Quote A little patience will see this issue addressed. The citadels will be replacing POS's in all sectors of space, and I would be VERY surprised if CCP doesn't remove all deployed POS's as the final stage of transitioning across to the new deployables system. With the citadels being rolled out next year with other deployable structures to follow, expect POS's to be removed after the roll-out is complete.
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 9795	Posted - 2015.12.18 00:48:17 - [7] - Quote Howdy pilgrim, what do you think you're doin', shooting up my posses? Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m! Bumble's Space Log
The Ginger Sith Attero Industries 5	Posted - 2015.12.18 01:04:40 - [8] - Quote the only real problem i see is the taxing they put on the server which i'm sure is very marginal and stealing the tower is just kinda lame unless they make it require that the POS be inactive for a minimum of like 6 months before it can be stolen and create some kind of risk to the process of stealing it. even then kinda prefer they get destroyed in war dec's there are plenty of new towers hiting market already dont need to crash the market for those who worked hard to build them.
O'nira Litla Sundlaugin 78	Posted - 2015.12.18 01:15:54 - [9] - Quote Shields should start degenerating as soon as pos is offline, we don't need free poses everywhere we just need it to be easier to remove something that someone left behind. however i don't think ccp actually like changing pos code and avoid it if possible and seeing as these new structures are replacing poses i think they are probably not to inclined to be fixing poses in anyway unless its gamebreaking
Donnachadh United Allegiance of Undesirables 690	Posted - 2015.12.18 03:05:29 - [10] - Quote Goatman NotMyFault wrote: There needs to be a system that cleans up the large amount of posses that aint in use. I have a newsflash for you. What you want already exists in the game, they call it a war dec and shoot the damned thing. And the best part is this, if the POS is actually abandoned there will be no resistance to you shooting it so you can take your time, after all you have a week to get it done. We will see what the future brings and how CCP will handle all of the POS that are in space active or not. But for now war dec and shoot the damned thing instead of crying about it. And yes I have been on more than a few POS bashes for both active and inactive towers so I do know how much it can take.
Rawketsled Generic Corp Name 347	Posted - 2015.12.18 03:16:12 - [11] - Quote Burning down abandoned large towers by yourself is painful. It's a job for many toons, so you either multibox, and bring friends. And if you have friends, in ships, in space, you're better off going on a roam and shooting at people than a tower. Source: Currently failing at doing this.
Lugh Crow-Slave 1347	Posted - 2015.12.18 03:31:37 - [12] - Quote Goatman NotMyFault wrote: There needs to be a system that cleans up the large amount of posses that aint in use. good news there is go shoot them Fuel block colors? Missiles for Caldari T3? Corp Stasis
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 2909	Posted - 2015.12.18 12:27:10 - [13] - Quote Buy Oracle then wardec. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided" Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
elitatwo Eve Minions The-Company 962	Posted - 2015.12.18 12:34:32 - [14] - Quote Daichi Yamato wrote: Buy Oracle then wardec. thank you, Daichi, I was just about to write the same. Eve Minions is recruiting. Learn from about pvp, learn about ships and how to fly them correctly. Small gang and solo action in high, low and nullsec and w-space alike. We will teach you everything you need and want to know.
Helios Panala 59	Posted - 2015.12.18 13:08:59 - [15] - Quote Good news, CCP are going to clear out all those dead sticks for you. Bad news, space is going to be covered with dead Citadels instead.
Goatman NotMyFault Lubrication Industries Fortis Et Certus 215	Posted - 2015.12.18 14:33:22 - [16] - Quote Helios Panala wrote: Good news, CCP are going to clear out all those dead sticks for you. Bad news, space is going to be covered with dead Citadels instead. yeah i forgot about the citadel.... but to my defence... i treated the news about citadel as how CCP hyped up WiS... ergo i wont belive it before it is applied :D But again, if it becomes so, my idea should apply to citadels too ;)
Lady Rift What Shall We Call It 250	Posted - 2015.12.18 15:07:14 - [17] - Quote Goatman NotMyFault wrote: Helios Panala wrote: Good news, CCP are going to clear out all those dead sticks for you. Bad news, space is going to be covered with dead Citadels instead. yeah i forgot about the citadel.... but to my defence... i treated the news about citadel as how CCP hyped up WiS... ergo i wont belive it before it is applied :D But again, if it becomes so, my idea should apply to citadels too ;) how will you know that the citadel is unused. The thing doesn't have a force field that shows if its online and for fuel that will only be required for certain things.
Donnachadh United Allegiance of Undesirables 690	Posted - 2015.12.18 15:24:26 - [18] - Quote Daichi Yamato wrote: Buy Oracle then wardec. Nicely put. I will have to look at the Oracle thingy, I was thinking and paper experimenting with various Polarized BS fits, perhaps I have been chasing the wrong thing.
Frostys Virpio KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 2428	Posted - 2015.12.18 16:08:26 - [19] - Quote Donnachadh wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: Buy Oracle then wardec. Nicely put. I will have to look at the Oracle thingy, I was thinking and paper experimenting with various Polarized BS fits, perhaps I have been chasing the wrong thing. [Abaddon, Abaddon fit] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Large Capacitor Battery II Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I [Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot] Ogre II x3 Assuming no force field so you can get at range 0, using faction ammo like this will take you to around 20 million damage done (assuming all V) before you need to re-cycle the guns. Depending on the total HP of your target, it might be worthwhile time wise.
The Ginger Sith Attero Industries 5	Posted - 2015.12.21 08:27:37 - [20] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Donnachadh wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: Buy Oracle then wardec. Nicely put. I will have to look at the Oracle thingy, I was thinking and paper experimenting with various Polarized BS fits, perhaps I have been chasing the wrong thing. [Abaddon, Abaddon fit] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Large Capacitor Battery II Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I [Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot] Ogre II x3 Assuming no force field so you can get at range 0, using faction ammo like this will take you to around 20 million damage done (assuming all V) before you need to re-cycle the guns. Depending on the total HP of your target, it might be worthwhile time wise. better off using standard tech 1 crystals since they never break ever and if fit is cap stable u can let it afk all day i used to do that with a dedicated low sp alt in a geddon (later oracle) when the alliance said come shoot structures or be kicked from alliance and set red CTA active so i sent that useless alt to afk it lol
Hopelesshobo Tactical Nuclear Penguin's 521	Posted - 2015.12.21 09:00:25 - [21] - Quote The Ginger Sith wrote: Frostys Virpio wrote: Donnachadh wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: Buy Oracle then wardec. Nicely put. I will have to look at the Oracle thingy, I was thinking and paper experimenting with various Polarized BS fits, perhaps I have been chasing the wrong thing. [Abaddon, Abaddon fit] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Large Capacitor Battery II Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I [Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot] Ogre II x3 Assuming no force field so you can get at range 0, using faction ammo like this will take you to around 20 million damage done (assuming all V) before you need to re-cycle the guns. Depending on the total HP of your target, it might be worthwhile time wise. better off using standard tech 1 crystals since they never break ever and if fit is cap stable u can let it afk all day i used to do that with a dedicated low sp alt in a geddon (later oracle) when the alliance said come shoot structures or be kicked from alliance and set red CTA active so i sent that useless alt to afk it lol Yeah, its just cheaper to use a cap stable oracle with T1 multicrystals on a dead stick if you are planning on going afk. Just in case they actually plan on defending the dead stick, I mean you are AFK anyways, so does it really matter if it takes another episode of your favorite TV show to pop? Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012.
Donnachadh United Allegiance of Undesirables 698	Posted - 2015.12.21 15:33:50 - [22] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Donnachadh wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: Buy Oracle then wardec. Nicely put. I will have to look at the Oracle thingy, I was thinking and paper experimenting with various Polarized BS fits, perhaps I have been chasing the wrong thing. [Abaddon, Abaddon fit] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Large Capacitor Battery II Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Polarized Mega Pulse Laser, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I [Empty Rig slot] [Empty Rig slot] Ogre II x3 Assuming no force field so you can get at range 0, using faction ammo like this will take you to around 20 million damage done (assuming all V) before you need to re-cycle the guns. Depending on the total HP of your target, it might be worthwhile time wise. Interesting, I shall look into it. However since it is all theory crafting at this point it is not all that important. In reality when they eliminated the standings requirement to anchor a POS and with empty moons all over high sec destroying a POS does not have the same affect it once did.
The Ginger Sith Attero Industries 5	Posted - 2015.12.22 03:32:03 - [23] - Quote Donnachadh wrote: Interesting, I shall look into it. However since it is all theory crafting at this point it is not all that important. In reality when they eliminated the standings requirement to anchor a POS and with empty moons all over high sec destroying a POS does not have the same affect it once did. it still has the impact of destroying 100 mill to 1 bill worth of isk possibly stealing some items depending on the tower they used some do use faction towers in high sec even lol so there is some impact still if they return to see their isk was destroyed.
Serendipity Lost Repo Industries 1705	Posted - 2015.12.22 13:52:26 - [24] - Quote Goatman NotMyFault wrote: Danika Princip wrote: Wardec them, shoot the pos, scoop the mods. Problem solved. Thats the issue... why destroy the controll Tower? why shouldnt that be able to be taken when you can "steal" all the modules? Steal the tower, use it urself or sell it.... recycling recycling recycling... It's not yours. The game has no obligation to give you free stuff. Stop asking for handouts.
Serendipity Lost Repo Industries 1706	Posted - 2015.12.22 14:06:45 - [25] - Quote Helios Panala wrote: Good news, CCP are going to clear out all those dead sticks for you. Bad news, space is going to be covered with dead Citadels instead. There will be zero reason to shoot a citadel in HS and LS. You can put the darn things anywhere, so you won't be strapped for moons. They don't drop loot - so why go through all the effort to knock over a citadel that gives you nothing. Look at eve now and look at this thread. There are probably trillions of isk worth of mods around all the dead sticks in empire. All you have to do is war dec and oracle the dead sticks to get all that loot. No one does it, because it's a waste of their time. Boring hours of bashing a dead stick for a few modules. In HS if you dec an active corp for citadel fights - the war dec assist mechanism will stifle all but the largest corps. What sorcery would motivate someone to go through all the entosis hoo haw for zero loot in the end? The only value in a citadel will be it's construction cost and that will only be realized in damages done on paper - not in value gained by the attacker. Eve will soon be littered w/ vacated citadels. Citadel combat will be 1 or possibly several campaigns by the goons to stomp them for the luls and the headlines. Once they master HS citadel removal, the experiment will be over and they too will move on. For symantics sake I'll say abaondoned citadels instead of dead citadels, but I think we mean the same thing. For dead sticks - war dec and bash them while you can!
Donnachadh United Allegiance of Undesirables 699	Posted - 2015.12.22 14:54:07 - [26] - Quote The Ginger Sith wrote: Donnachadh wrote: Interesting, I shall look into it. However since it is all theory crafting at this point it is not all that important. In reality when they eliminated the standings requirement to anchor a POS and with empty moons all over high sec destroying a POS does not have the same affect it once did. it still has the impact of destroying 100 mill to 1 bill worth of isk possibly stealing some items depending on the tower they used some do use faction towers in high sec even lol so there is some impact still if they return to see their isk was destroyed. Keep wishing and some day the magic space fairies may make this come true. If the tower is truly abandoned then the ISK will not matter to anyone or anything except you and maybe your kill board. If it is simply offline because the corp cannot afford to keep it going then one of two things will happen. They will simply remove it when you war dec them, or they will let you blow them up because a tower is only about 3 hours worth of dedicated mission running so it really would have minimal impact. But in the end the answer is still the same. That tower belongs to someone else, it is by design safe from being stolen by lazy players like you and that is the way it should always be. So if that tower offends thee war dec and remove, but there is no profit in that you may say. Again that is by design, the profit for you is the location and having it empty so you can put YOUR tower there, or in the good feeling you may get from destroying something that belongs to another group of players.
The Ginger Sith Attero Industries 5	Posted - 2015.12.24 00:00:21 - [27] - Quote Donnachadh wrote: The Ginger Sith wrote: Donnachadh wrote: Interesting, I shall look into it. However since it is all theory crafting at this point it is not all that important. In reality when they eliminated the standings requirement to anchor a POS and with empty moons all over high sec destroying a POS does not have the same affect it once did. it still has the impact of destroying 100 mill to 1 bill worth of isk possibly stealing some items depending on the tower they used some do use faction towers in high sec even lol so there is some impact still if they return to see their isk was destroyed. Keep wishing and some day the magic space fairies may make this come true. If the tower is truly abandoned then the ISK will not matter to anyone or anything except you and maybe your kill board. . when i was in a corp taking a chillax break that war dec'd the corps with dead pos in high sec and used afk oracle alts to kill them we received quite a few mails when they came back pissed off raging about their lost tower. at least half of them came back and raged give or take. so definitely not wishing for your fetish of magic space fairies :P sure this may not be the average but there is a fair bit of this happening of course you cant expect it but we turned a profit for every afk tower kill and it didnt take long with 50 oracle alts afk.

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