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Lyzander
Caldari Mugen Academy
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Posted - 2007.01.17 20:36:00 -
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Hello all, I've recently returned from a two-ish year long hiatus from EVE, and am now mildly puzzled by the wealth of Alliances that are now spread across the Galaxy.
At the time of my leaving, the political breakdown was as follows:
EVE Political Map 1 EVE Political Map 2
If anyone could please give me a brief rundown on the two years of history I'm missing, or have a link to such information, it would be very greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance for the helping to bring me up to speed! ---
ライザンダー ・ 無限学園 |

Mar Drakar
LDK
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Posted - 2007.01.17 21:05:00 -
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I think what you want is this animated map that is available in the map thread, you can find the nowadays political map there too...
what concerns alliance history, im about year old, and still I dont recall everything... ;] -- Make your life worth dying. CEO LDK |

Saint Sebastian
Paxton Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.17 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Saint Sebastian on 17/01/2007 21:09:51 You might want to consult the previous politcs maps available: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=331220 ----- PAXTON INDUSTRIES RECRUITING |

ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.17 21:15:00 -
[4]
So you're a veterinary?
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Mimiru
Gallente BIG Advanced Assault
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Posted - 2007.01.17 21:25:00 -
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\o wb 
I'll try and catch you online sometime today or tomorrow :)
the short version of what happened is, well, a lot.  ---------
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Lyzander
Caldari Mugen Academy
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Posted - 2007.01.17 21:33:00 -
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Edited by: Lyzander on 17/01/2007 21:29:44
Originally by: Mar Drakar I think what you want is this animated map that is available in the map thread, you can find the nowadays political map there too...
what concerns alliance history, im about year old, and still I dont recall everything... ;]
Ah, thank you very much for that, somehow didnt see it. Although it doesn't give the reason for the changes shown, it still helped clarify how some of the big old alliances broke apart.
Quote: So you're a veterinary?
I prefer the term "critter-fixer". 
Originally by: Mimiru \o wb 
I'll try and catch you online sometime today or tomorrow :)
the short version of what happened is, well, a lot. 
hihi o/
Hopefully you can help me get my bearings again, I've been around for a couple weeks now in a self-corp while I got a feel for all the new ships etc. I'd evemail you but since it's still borked... (groan) ---
ライザンダー ・ 無限学園 |

TrippyX
Caldari The Syndicate Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.17 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: TrippyX on 17/01/2007 21:42:34 Edited by: TrippyX on 17/01/2007 21:40:36 You will want to see these 2 videos:
Clickerty Click Chronicles of War - The Last G Campaign
richt click -> save as.. The Great Northern War (Timeline) - Outbreak / Tides of War
And you want to see killer8's flash movies. clickerty click
and this site is pretty decent: EVE History ____________________
I ♥ [TSYND] |

Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.17 21:44:00 -
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So much has happened that you'd really need a couple of people to give you a review from each section of the map, aka the north, the south, the east, west. -
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Shiwan Khan
Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.18 06:43:00 -
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I can give you a rundown of what i was involved in.
First off, as im sure you were aware at the time, CA was a major power. Well that changed when internal strife ripped it apart from the inside. Shortly thereafter, the forums were raining with threads about how eve broke apart the ebil CA (LOL ) VOTF and corps that we were allied with decided to go mix things up on the western side of the map. We would rally a fleet of BS's numbering around 60 and jump into VV-VCR (still some of the most fun fleet engagements i've ever had) where there would be 200+ hostiles camping. Good fun. After that VOTF went and founded Imperium alliance in The Outer Ring, while other corps left to do their own thing. BoB invaded us, and sadly, we were ill-prepared. I do not presume to understand all of the political moves made as i am not privvy to such information (the info the leadership has) as would allow me to make such decisions as to leave Outer Ring for Aridia. BoB say they kicked us out. I say there is some truth to this. They made living in Outer Ring hard for us but not impossible, we would have found a way to get by, but we were told to move to be aridia to be closer to bob in hopes of launching assaults into their space. The eve community was hard to say though, as they were apparently afraid of bob. After months of bashing our heads against the wall, we moved again, this time to part of our (VOTF's anyway) old stomping ground. We moved back to Great Wildlands. As the political climate changed in this area, we got more allies, and eventually reached the point where we decided to revive the old name of Curse Alliance. And that pretty much brings you up to speed of the path that was taken by VOTF post-CA (the old version)
Some side notes: -Capital ships were implemented (carriers, dreadnaughts, titans -There are some entities that have even the most powerful capital ships: titans. Some even have multiples of them -There was also a titan that was blown up ____________________________________________
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Omber Zombie
Gallente Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2007.01.18 07:31:00 -
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o/ lyzander ----------------------
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Clementina
Eye of God X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.01.18 08:11:00 -
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I will attempt to fill you in from the second map that you have posted, because it is easier to read, and it is not too far from when I first joined the game. You may also wish to consult the map thread, as this post will contain no pictures. I will go clockwise, starting with the PA. Explanation begins here.
See those alliances on that map, none of them exist anymore. The Phoenix Alliance is dead. First There was the Great Northern War, which was a war of PA* versus xPA (I think Taggart Transdimentional were a corp on one side, and Jericho Fraction was a corp on another side, Jericho Fraction is no longer in the space claiming business (their racket is now Freespace ideology), and TTi is not in any business whatsoever). Its space was then conquered by an alliance called CCP which stood for Cookies, Cake, and Pie. another corporation, who also has the tag CCP, demanded a name change, they chose BoB, which later came to stand for Band of Brothers. This did not kill the PA, what killed it was a later invasion. BoB chained PA for a long period of time, then an alliance called [G] arose. [G] displaced BoB in the north, BoB then went to fountain (what they did there I'll explain later). The Phoenix Alliance then split, there was the PA, then there was Xelas. Later PA would align with Forsaken Empire: the alliance, [G], and with a new alliance called IRON. FE the alliance then caught Xelas renting an office to Evolution (a corporation in BoB). This, and an incident whereby a PA member was declared KOS by Xelas forces would result in their removal from space. They would later rent space from BoB. Xelas's space was then occupied by a new alliance called NBSI*. Much Later an alliance that formed in old CA space (the CA is next be patient) came up and pwned PA, they were the [5], and they actually dominated PA twice. They came, they conquered, they left, they came again, they destroyed the PA, then they disbanded.
The CA only holds Vale of the Silent for a short period of time. Alliances arise in that region. The first one was called The Pirate Syndicate. TPS did what it says on the tin. They were later betrayed by Forsaken Empire: the corp, who was a founding member of that alliance. The ensuing Civil War was won by FE and they, along with followers of Foyle, the Dark Queen. founded the Force of Evil. FoE were perennial enemies of another alliance called the Imperium*. FE: the corp would later betray this, and would found FE: the alliance. They later left FE: the alliance. FE: The alliance would ally with the Phoenix Alliance until near the end of the second [5] invasion, when they betrayed PA, and allied with the [5]. FE: the alliance disbanded shortly after the [5] did. The Alliance Executor for FE: The alliance executor is still around, her name is Persphanie*.
Disclosure *I'm xPA, although I joined after BoB had left *I'm xNBSI *I'm xIMP *Pershpanie is in my allian
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Attak
Trioptimum FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.18 08:15:00 -
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I LOLed at someone claiming Lonetrek and The Forge on the old map.
But seriously, so much stuff has happened you'd need to catagorize it by region, each one of which could probably fill a whole forum page with the various events. So it really depends where you want to live and who you're with, since most of it probably doesn't have to do with you anyway.
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Gradinger
Todmacher
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Posted - 2007.01.18 08:16:00 -
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lol at your new sig omber... :)
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Clementina
Eye of God X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.01.18 08:26:00 -
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CA disbands. It disbands because the CA council attempts to force Vengeance of the Fallen to kick Anue Angellus from their corporation (and therefore the alliance. Instead VOTF leaves and forms the Imperium with themselves, RONA Corporation (an xPA corp) Stronghold, TOoC, Huff Technologies, Supremacy, and others. There was lots of Bad Blood between various xCA leaders. Prominent members of the CA were XirtamVOTF, Foyle, Chowdown, Drilla, and Lallante; all of whom still play, although Foyle may be difficult to find. The Alliance begot three alliances, the Imperium, which was lead by Xirtam, the Force of Evil, which was lead by Foyle, and Red Alliance which was an alliance of CA's Russians. IMP and FoE did not get along and flamed the forums continuously, as well as fought in space. Also there are rumors concerning a large amount of minerals that Xirtam's faction accused Foyle of stealing after the alliance disbanded. I'll put that rumor to rest in advance. There are not trillions of isk worth of minerals left over from the CA. they are not in cans in Detroid, and Xirtam's boys are not going to get a cut from Foyle mins. Foyle doesn't have any CA mins. IMP and FoE left the region, the Russians stayed in Cashe. ATUK and their buddies were also in the region. They started the [5], the Five originally had 5 corporations ATUK, Shinra, Black Omega Security, Supremacy, and one other outfit. They later acquired 4 more corporations. Taggart Transdimentional rings a bell, I can't really recall the others. They dwelled in the lion's share of old CA's regions, they also would gank the PA, and sponsor corps everywhere in Eve. It was getting to the point where damn near every random low-sec corp said sponsored by ATUK, or sponsored by Shinra. Somebody betrayed somebody else, and that started the wars with the RA (these wars are still being waged). PA, NBSI, FE: the alliance, RA, IRON, [G], and maybe somebody else declared war on the [5], starting the North vs South Conflict. ATUK went up north to pwn the PA, Shinra leave to found Lotka Volterra, and start fighting the Russians for space. LV finds allies*, some of them are more disappointing then others. RA loses very badly, then starts to win against the coalition.
Disclosure *I'm ex Veritas Immortalis, one of Lotka Volterra's allies
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Clementina
Eye of God X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.01.18 09:03:00 -
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Xetic and Stain Alliance won their never ending war with CA due to CA's disbandment. Later Xetic would sign a NAP with the [5]. However this nap was broken when a Xetic pilot destroyed a [5] hauler. The alliance executor of Xetic, a man by the name of CYVOK would later invoke an alliance against the [5]. The alliance was called The Southern Mutual Defense Pact, or something similar. The problem with this pact is that nobody had signed it other than Xetic, not even the people who were theoretically were members. Xetic were mauled by the [5], however an alliance was to arise from Xetic called Ascendant Frontier which would hold most of old Xetic space for quite some time. Meanwhile in Stain. When Stain created an official alliance, they called it Stain Empire. shortly afterwards, their leader TRIGGER, left with his corp MASS (Ministry of Amarr Secret Service) to fight members of the Imperium (they weren't very good at it). He came back and demanded to be reinstalled as leader. This didn't happen and so he founded STAIN ALLAIANCE, which later became Stain -Alliance and lead a rebellion against the forces of Stain Empire. Stain -Alliance would beat Stain Empire and later be beaten by BoB after a series of wars against Firmus Ixion. Ascendant Frontier meanwhile became an industrial powerhouse, they built a multitude of outposts, they built the first titan. There was also a split, Axiom Empire* was formed. ASCN was invaded by BoB, and BoB had destroyed it in about 4 months. Perhapses Eve's most important kill happened during that time, this is when CYVOK's Avatar Steve (named after Steve Irvin, the Crocodile Hunter), was destroyed whilst CYVOK was logged out, but still under the aggression timer. While one gank cannot possibly break an alliance, this particular kill was more instrumental than most. ASCN has all but disbanded. AXE was beaten by Against All Authorities, which is an offshoot of RA. AXE surrendered their space, and currently wanders empire*
The Coalition of Free Stars was invaded by the Fountain alliance. They conquered Delve and Period Basis. Shortly afterwards the Fountain Alliance was invaded by BoB. After a long war BoB conquered Fountain, then after still more fighting Delve fell. Period Basis was occupied for some time by Shinra, then after Shinra left to fight in old Curse space, by an outfit called the Period Basis Legion. exCFS elements formed an alliance without the fat called Firmus Ixion. They fought FA and beat them, then fought BoB and beat them. Then later would have a long period of peace. BoB meanwhile consolidated control of Fountain and Delve and Period Basis. Much later they would chase IMP from 0.0. Meanwhile FIX was attacked by a multitude of alliances, they were losing, this is when BoB counterattacked the alliances for FIX, in return FIX relinquished its official claims on space to BoB.
Disclosure *I'm an ex member of Axiom Empire *I'm also one of AXE's enemies.
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Clementina
Eye of God X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.01.18 09:16:00 -
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NORAD was invaded by the Imperium, this does not kill NORAD, they continue to gank Syndicate Pirates and IMP forces alike for IMP's entire time as an Outer Ring Alliance. IMP camps pf-346 a lot, I mean they camp it an awful lot. Imperium's allies; Supremacy, destroy 3rd Front Alliance (which was established after you had quit). IMP later has an alliance with [G] and IMP would take somewhat frequent day trips to Curse to gank. The Dark Lord would tell us about when CA ruled in those parts. The Mercenary Coalition fights several wars against Imperium. Later [G] would revoke their alliance, IMP would wonder the wilderness until they found allies in Goonfleet. The Dark Lord later disbanded IMP and recreates CA.
[G] finds new allies in another alliance called the Imperial Republic of the North. IRON and G would become a powerhouse. Their authority would soon encompass a great part of the north. They had one setback. The Battle of EC-P8R. There was a public company called TRUST which built an outpost in that system. TRUST was later invaded by BoB and ASCN forces, in what was perhapse the largest blob in Eve history. They lost the outpost. BoB later gave the outpost to ISS, who held it under the name ISS Cassisi. The old Trust corporations later joined Dusk and Dawn, which is an alliance created from [G] after they disbanded, and other corporations. Recently, they invaded ISS Cassisi and have reclaimed the outpost.
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Clementina
Eye of God X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.01.18 09:41:00 -
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The previous posts are the regions. Now from some noteworthy alliances that didn't make the paragraphs on the regions, in chronological order.
The Star Fraction
Jericho Fraction formed this alliance to further the cause of Freespace (ie the notion that people shouldn't claim exclusive occupation of regions, or kill neutrals in space) Jericho had been in this business for a long time. but recently they formed an alliance to do it. Originally, it contained corporations as diverse as Glammour Bunnies and the Omerta Syndicate. Now it contains just Jericho Fraction and Tabula Rasa Systems. They have seen some success lately against The Kimonono Directrate and The Cyrene Initiative.
the Mercenary Coalition.
The Mercenary Coalition was founded by four corporations. Body Count Incorporated, The Corporation, North Star Networks, and Sharks with Frickin' Laser Beams. They take Mercenary contracts, ie if you have enemies, they can be paid to kill them. They are especially good at fighting. FRICK is known for their haikuists. Lately they have rented a series of outposts from BoB, this has brought some measure of controversy.
The Interstellar Starbase Syndicate.
The ISS are a series of public corporations. They have started the first IPO with their outpost ISS Marginis. They had since built several other outposts, and had paid many billions in dividends to investors. Their shares traded on the Eve Galatic Stock Exchange for a long period of time and were considered by many to be a rather safe investment. The Eve Galatic Stock Exchange was formed to facilitate the trade of shares in companies that operate in a manner similar to how ISS operates. Lately however, their outposts have been seized by D2 or by the Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate. (D2 and the IAC are not allies, they simply have the same enemy) Their dealings with BoB (EC-P8R) and with Lotka Volterra (they lease an outpost) have made them a target by many.
Goonfleet
Goonfleet is an alliance that really can be more accurately described as an overgrown corporation. They use to live in one system in Syndicate (Yes, every goon lived in this one system) They were chased out by BoB after a signature surfaced that mocked a man who used to play a character called smoke(.sp) This guy had died in a motorcycle accident. He was also the inventor of the Killboard. This war was extremely acrimonious in ways that are not even healthy for Eve, (BoB essentially accused goonfleet members to a man of being a virus in the game). Goonfleet later goes to RA space and allies with RA.
The New Curse Alliance
This alliance is a spinoff of the Imperium plus some other corps. It is generally not liked by members of Shinra who were also members of the Curse Alliance, including Chowdown, who is a former CA council member. I include them for completeness, I do not know if they will really become notable enough to merit much attention.
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Drilla
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.18 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Clementina The New Curse Alliance
This alliance is a spinoff of the Imperium plus some other corps. It is generally not liked by members of Shinra who were also members of the Curse Alliance, including Chowdown, who is a former CA council member. I include them for completeness, I do not know if they will really become notable enough to merit much attention.
Pretty accurate overall just wanted to clear up the council stuff in CA. All CEO's of member corps were council members - Chowdown was one of 5 Generals (this might not be accurate but I think the other 4 was: Duke Droklar, c4w3, XirtamVotf and foyle).
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Omber Zombie
Gallente Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2007.01.18 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: Gradinger lol at your new sig omber... :)
which one? they rotate 
oh, and nice posts Clementina  ----------------------
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Clementina
Eye of God X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.01.18 10:41:00 -
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I would like to thank Drilla for contributing to the accuracy of my assessment. I didn't realize that every CEO of every corporation the Curse Alliance was a council member. I also didn't realize that they had 5 generals.
Also I need to talk about the New Regions. CCP (you might know them from earlier as the folks that demanded that BoB change their name.) Also opened up a series of new regions. There are, as far as I can tell, three alliances in the new regions. They are Ka-Tet, X-PACT* and BloodRaiders Alliance. Ka-Tet built the first station in the new regions. This is significant because the new regions have no stations conquerable or otherwise. X-PACT was given a station in a deal that involves a war I know precious little about Ka-Tet and Bloodraiders alliance don't get along, but I do not think they shoot at each other right now. X-PACT is exAXE and founded by Eye of God*, which is an exNORAD corp.
disclosures *I'm in X-PACT *I'm in Eye of God
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The Yzzerman
Mortis Angelus Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.18 10:41:00 -
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Yee nice post
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.18 10:41:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/01/2007 10:44:21
Originally by: Clementina BoB chained PA for a long period of time, then an alliance called [G] arose. [G] displaced BoB in the north
Your history is fairly accurate from our pov. However, this comment is incorrect.
[G] never displaced BoB.
I put forward the idea to move at the height of our success, when we owned 7 regions in order to go and find a new challenge.
[G] then replaced BoB when we left.
To the OP: I wrote up alot of RKK and therefore BoB's history, from conception to the start of the ASCN war. I need to write up a couple more stories like the 2nd and 3rd caldari championships and the full ascn war (although that will be done later once I've had time to let it sink in) but it's essentially all there now.
You can find it here: Reikoku Stories
hmmm, lyzander, were you up north when you left? I seem to recall the name.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Soulita
Gallente Inner Core
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Posted - 2007.01.18 11:35:00 -
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Thanks for this awesome writeup of a good part of EVE history, Clementina.
There is a small mixup in it that i know of:
You said: "IMP camps pf-346 a lot, I mean they camp it an awful lot. Imperium's allies; Supremacy, destroy 3rd Front Alliance"
In fact, Supremacy & Imp destroyed JQA, not 3FA.
What happend in detail was that ex-CA came to syndicate and outer ring looking for a new home. Imperium attacked NORAD as you correctly say. Supremacy, Imp's allies attack JQA and their allies 3FA. In the beginning JQA and 3FA fight toghether against supremacy. 3FA then abandons JQA and sets supremacy from negative to neutral. The reasons for this move by 3FA are much disputed. JQA is then destroyed by supremacy. 3FA stayed as an alliance in syndicate till long after imperium and supremacy had left. 3FA disbanded shortly after LFC, one of its founding corps, left 3FA and joined LV.
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Lyzander
Caldari Mugen Academy
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Posted - 2007.01.18 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: TrippyX Edited by: TrippyX on 17/01/2007 21:42:34 Edited by: TrippyX on 17/01/2007 21:40:36 You will want to see (etc)
And you want to see killer8's flash movies. clickerty click
and this site is pretty decent: EVE History
Haven't had a chance to download the videos yet, will try to get a look later today.
Originally by: Shiwan Khan I can give you a rundown of what i was involved in...
Thanks, I had I just joined Curse before I left, so that fills my understanding there much better.
Quote: o/ lyzander
o/ Omber Zombie Long time no see. Love the sig about the world's guns xD
Originally by: Clementina <An unbelievable amount of information>
Clementina, you are a Goddess. Thank you SO much for that. 
Originally by: DB Preacher hmmm, lyzander, were you up north when you left? I seem to recall the name.
I was with Fountain Alliance for a long time, with Dark Empire, then later (and for muych longer) with Critical Mass Enterprises. I was in Fountain during the m0o & Forsaken Empire conflicts. It was after one of those conflicts when Xanadu booted CME that we ended up joining Curse (what happened to Xanadu anyways?). I didn't like Curse that much though, the SA-CA war was still raging and made it way too unstable.
Thank you all SO much for the info so far. Now if only I could recover my lost SP as easily...  ---
ライザンダー ・ 無限学園 |

SheWhoGreetsWithFire
Caldari GIT-R-DUN Southern Connection
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Posted - 2007.01.18 15:00:00 -
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I'm reminded of 'Airplane 2'.
McCrosky: Jacobs, I want to know absolutely everything that's happened up till now.
Jacobs: Well, let's see. First the earth cooled. And then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they all died and they turned into oil. And then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes. And Prince Charles started wearing all of Lady Di's clothes. I couldn't believe it.
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Needer
moon7empler Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.18 15:46:00 -
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As the history is summed up properly...an actual advice for the presence.
BoB developed the biggest and most efficienct Propaganda machine in EVE. This is why they scan the Forum for Posts like this...
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/01/2007 10:44:21
Originally by: Clementina BoB chained PA for a long period of time, then an alliance called [G] arose. [G] displaced BoB in the north
Your history is fairly accurate from our pov. However, this comment is incorrect.
[G] never displaced BoB.
I put forward the idea to move at the height of our success, when we owned 7 regions in order to go and find a new challenge.
[G] then replaced BoB when we left.
dbp
and always try to make all poeple believe that Bob is unbeatable and send them to their own (BoB) written history.
My memory about this event is the first version.
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.18 17:24:00 -
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Great post Clementina. It fills a lot of my newbie seeing of the game. I just can see now how conflicts were that long. Cool. Let's rock the place then :)
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.18 17:37:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/01/2007 17:35:20
Originally by: Needer My memory about this event is the first version.
Sort your memory out very quickly and quietly by asking yourself this simple question.
Did [G] hold any of the old PA territories in any form in the month AFTER we left?
No?
Then you didn't displace us, you replaced us like I said above.
I'll hunt down the actual territory map if it really means that much to you :P
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG
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Posted - 2007.01.18 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Needer
As the history is summed up properly...an actual advice for the presence.
BoB developed the biggest and most efficienct Propaganda machine in EVE. This is why they scan the Forum for Posts like this...
and always try to make all poeple believe that Bob is unbeatable and send them to their own (BoB) written history.
My memory about this event is the first version.
Morale is the most important factor in any battle. A broken army has no less men nor weapons than it had before. The only thing that has changed is the fact that the army no longer stands and fights, but runs. That is why controling the public perception of events is so important. As long as they can maintain an image of invincibility no-one who fights them expects to win in the long term. Hence, morale is already broken and everyone they target start to prepare for retreat from day one. After this, all they have to do is advance... That is why propaganda is so important. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |

Crucifier
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.01.18 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Clementina AXE was beaten by Against All Authorities, which is an offshoot of RA.
First of all aaa crushed 2 alliances, huzzah and axe. Second of all, aaa = RAT. aka Research and Trading corp . Stain empire(xenobytes and co) and the collective(were in sa before they disbanded) ------
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.18 18:44:00 -
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Clementina your history is wrong on Goonfleet and Curse Alliance, but other than that it seems like a good recap, accurate enough for Lyzander  -
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2007.01.18 19:07:00 -
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2-year history: People flamed bob and they flamed back.
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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BlackRain
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.18 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka 2-year history: People flamed bob and they flamed back.
That, indeed, is a historically very accurate description of what has happened in this game. Yes. -------------------
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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.18 22:26:00 -
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LV almost beat RA by using spies to offline many ra poses. Ra was beaten badly if by badly you mean in a poor and vile manner. If you mean they were beaten decisive and thoroughly, that was never the case.
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Player One
Minmatar Die wilde 13
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Posted - 2007.01.19 01:03:00 -
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why does dbpreacher has to kill any thread, when it contains the single unimportant letter G? i know, it's just copy & paste for your, but it's boring after 2years now.
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Shiwan Khan
Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Soulita Edited by: Soulita on 18/01/2007 12:00:46 Thanks for this awesome writeup of a good part of EVE history, Clementina.
There is a small mixup in it that i know of:
You said: "IMP camps pf-346 a lot, I mean they camp it an awful lot. Imperium's allies; Supremacy, destroy 3rd Front Alliance"
In fact, Supremacy & Imp destroyed JQA, not 3FA.
What happend in detail was that ex-CA came to syndicate and outer ring looking for a new home. Imperium attacked NORAD as you correctly say. Supremacy, Imp's allies attack JQA and their allies 3FA. In the beginning JQA and 3FA fight toghether against supremacy. 3FA then abandons JQA and sets supremacy from negative to neutral. The reasons for this move by 3FA are much disputed. JQA is then destroyed by supremacy.
3FA stayed as an alliance in syndicate till long after imperium and supremacy had left. 3FA disbanded shortly after LFC, one of its founding corps, left 3FA and joined LV.
I'm sorry but your statement in the middle paragraph about who was attacking 3FA and JQA is either wrong or misleading. Those engagements were in VV-VCR and were before Imperium as an alliance were formed and before we moved to Outer Ring, it was the coalition of ex-CA corps that were attacking JQA and 3FA, not just Supremacy as you say. ____________________________________________
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Soulita
Gallente Inner Core
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Posted - 2007.01.19 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Shiwan Khan
Originally by: Soulita Edited by: Soulita on 18/01/2007 12:00:46 Thanks for this awesome writeup of a good part of EVE history, Clementina.
There is a small mixup in it that i know of:
You said: "IMP camps pf-346 a lot, I mean they camp it an awful lot. Imperium's allies; Supremacy, destroy 3rd Front Alliance"
In fact, Supremacy & Imp destroyed JQA, not 3FA.
What happend in detail was that ex-CA came to syndicate and outer ring looking for a new home. Imperium attacked NORAD as you correctly say. Supremacy, Imp's allies attack JQA and their allies 3FA. In the beginning JQA and 3FA fight toghether against supremacy. 3FA then abandons JQA and sets supremacy from negative to neutral. The reasons for this move by 3FA are much disputed. JQA is then destroyed by supremacy.
3FA stayed as an alliance in syndicate till long after imperium and supremacy had left. 3FA disbanded shortly after LFC, one of its founding corps, left 3FA and joined LV.
I'm sorry but your statement in the middle paragraph about who was attacking 3FA and JQA is either wrong or misleading. Those engagements were in VV-VCR and were before Imperium as an alliance were formed and before we moved to Outer Ring, it was the coalition of ex-CA corps that were attacking JQA and 3FA, not just Supremacy as you say.
Yes, sounds correct to me. Couldnt recall exactly if imperium alliance was formed before or after the VV-VCR fights.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 08:33:00 -
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.. and then came Privateers Alliance and year 2007 was going to be full of empire gankz0rs!  Playing Caldari-Online as a Amarr specced is PURE Hardcore (aka. stupid).
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Broska
Shadow Blades
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Posted - 2007.01.19 09:29:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Kuolematon .. and then came Privateers Alliance and year 2007 was going to be full of empire gankz0rs! 
Who are generaly regarded as n00bs by the majority of the community. ------------------------------
Originally by: Tovarishch flying a Scorp into a fleet battle is like parking a pink moped in front of a biker bar - you will die... quickly.
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Drilla
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.19 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Graalum LV almost beat RA by using spies to offline many ra poses. Ra was beaten badly if by badly you mean in a poor and vile manner. If you mean they were beaten decisive and thoroughly, that was never the case.
Lol - wtf are you talking about? 
LV twice had RA removed form 0.0 space but they kept coming back - we didnt use spies to offline RA POS' - get a grip.
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ceaon
Gallente Porandor
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Posted - 2007.01.19 09:49:00 -
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http://eve-history.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
a good place where to read and share information + @@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@
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Dominie Dirtch
Minmatar Revival.
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Posted - 2007.01.19 10:08:00 -
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Quote: The second was led by Aneu Angellus when Xirtam was taking care of his sick brother. Nobody followed Aneu and later he would rejoin VOTF
Aneu didnt lead a coup, he actually saved all the minerals and bpo/bpcs that VOTF from a directors alt who was still in VOTF after niteowl performed the coup.
Since VOTF were unable to use the hangers during that time, Aneu put forward the main active pvpers make a new corp until xirtam comes back, which was rejected, when Xirtam came back aneu gave everything back to the corporation.
Also during that time aneu held VOTF and IMP together since Xirtam was away and Acks didnt play much.
Please post with factual information next time and dont slander my CEO. _________ My voice shall tear you asunder and show your vile ways. |

LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.19 11:40:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Dominie Dirtch
Quote: The second was led by Aneu Angellus when Xirtam was taking care of his sick brother. Nobody followed Aneu and later he would rejoin VOTF
Aneu didnt lead a coup, he actually saved all the minerals and bpo/bpcs that VOTF from a directors alt who was still in VOTF after niteowl performed the coup.
Since VOTF were unable to use the hangers during that time, Aneu put forward the main active pvpers make a new corp until xirtam comes back, which was rejected, when Xirtam came back aneu gave everything back to the corporation.
Also during that time aneu held VOTF and IMP together since Xirtam was away and Acks didnt play much.
Please post with factual information next time and dont slander my CEO.
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BlackRain
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.19 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: BlackRain on 19/01/2007 13:00:36
Originally by: Dominie Dirtch
Also during that time aneu held VOTF and IMP together since Xirtam was away and Acks didnt play much.
Now this is something I'd call forum comedy gold. Haha. -------------------
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Hardin
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:08:00 -
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An abbreviated history of the CVA
Founded when EVE was young to protect and expand Amarrian interests.
Lived in Empire. Ganked Minnie terrorists and had lots of fun fights with Oracle and other terrorists. Also hunted heretical pirates in Sarum and other low-sec systems.
Fast forward a year and CVA launches the 'Deliverance' Project and moves to lower Domain and North Western Providence to enforce Amarrian law and justice in low sec and 0.0.
Evicted a number of pirate corporations who (with friends i.e. TSDS) have at various times launched various (failed) assaults to reclaim their space. Also worked with southern neighbours Huzzah to create 'open' 0.0 in Providence.
Terrorists Minnies moved in as neighbours in North Eastern Providence infinging on Amarr 0.0. War rages with the terrorists.
CVA builds first Outpost.
ISS move in as neighbours and tried to build Outpost in system claimed by CVA. CVA says no and decs ISS. ISS backs down and builds Outpost elsewhere in Providence.
Heretical Verisum Family alliance allies with TSDS alliance and many mercs (including Omniscent Order and KIA) to attack CVA - CVA weathers storm and enemies eventually bugger off.
The CVA terrorist neighbours (Ushra'Khan) get attacked by pirate alliance led by The Establishment and VETO. CVA decides pirates are worse neighbours than terrorists and gives terrorists some breathing space. With the help of ISS and Mercenary Coalition the pirates get beaten off by the Minnies and CVA starts operations against terrorists again.
Friendly & drunken CVA neighbour IAC gets brutally attacked by Mercenary Coalition and FIX alliance. CVA sends some ships to help IAC. IAC and friends beat off attack and life goes on.
Burn Eden visits Amarrian 0.0 and spends a few weeks attacking CVA and neutrals. Apparently they 'lockdown' CVA space. Whilst they are doing this CVA builds its second Outpost. Burn Eden leaves.
Shortly after SAS, The Corporation and North Star Networks visit Amarrian 0.0 with their mothership and spend a few weeks shooting CVA and neutrals (and being shot at). They build a POS in R3. CVA takes it down. They build another POS in R3, CVA (and friends) take it down. They leave.
IAC launches attack on ISS. ISS retaliates by calling in lots of friends including terrorist alliance Ushra'Khan, Loktra Volterra and Mercenary Coalition. IAC loses an Outpost.
CVA takes advantage of the war situation to attack terrorist Ushra'khan POS in border system. Minnies hold on but ISS coalition starts to fracture due to diplomatic prowess of pirate ButterDog. IAC and friends take advantage to take their Outpost back and claim others from ISS.
CVA declares war on Electus Matari alliance to assist friends in PIE corporation - ganks some terrorist Minnies and retracts war after two weeks.
Current 'official' wars with Ushra'Khan alliance and Privateers.
That brings us up to date.
Amarrian 0.0 continues to expand in Providence in a slow and stately fashion reminiscent of the movement of our golden Amarrian fleets 
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Kashre
Minmatar Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.24 02:24:00 -
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Quote: exCFS elements formed an alliance without the fat called Firmus Ixion. They fought FA and beat them, then fought BoB and beat them. Then later would have a long period of peace. BoB meanwhile consolidated control of Fountain and Delve and Period Basis. Much later they would chase IMP from 0.0. Meanwhile FIX was attacked by a multitude of alliances, they were losing, this is when BoB counterattacked the alliances for FIX, in return FIX relinquished its official claims on space to BoB.
Just some clarification: I wouldnt honestly say we beat BOB, although I like to think we held our own. There was never any serious hardcore warfare going on there, more like bored PvPers looking for a good time. My most common recolection of BOB in FIX space was Blacklight getting drunk and taking 2-4 ship suicide squads to 9cgs to see what kind of trouble he could get into.
Also, we fought the CFS in Querious while they were at war with FA, and we were more or less FA allies after that. I dont recall that we ever fought FA.
I also don't think we had all that much peace tbh :P Although we did have periods with no cataclysmic wars and just the traditional incursions of annoying pirates and CA. +++
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Dirtball
Kemono.
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Posted - 2007.01.24 03:43:00 -
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I heard something about imp being unable to cyno their dreads even after petitioning it shortly after castor while bob was able to freely cyno their dreads and destroy their pos's. Can someone clear that one up.
I was also curious about the similarities between the above story and cyvok being unable to use the titans jump portal to circumvent bob bubble camping gates and go directly after dread fleets hitting the pos's. Can someone also clear that up.
Feel free to mention tinfoil hats, but most of us know the truth and it really kind of hurts, but I'd like to hear ascn or imps version and how many times their petitions went unanswered until too late.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.24 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dirtball Edited by: Dirtball on 24/01/2007 03:58:48 I heard something about imp being unable to cyno their dreads even after petitioning it shortly after castor while bob was able to freely cyno their dreads and destroy their pos's. Can someone clear that one up.
I was also curious about the similarities between the above story and cyvok being unable to use the titans jump portal to circumvent bob bubble camping gates and go directly after dread fleets hitting the pos's. Can someone also clear that up.
Feel free to mention tinfoil hats,
edit: last part invloved asking about petitions which are not to be discussed so I removed it
Its very simple , we open a cyno and jump dreads in like anyone else and miraculosly the cyno works for us, very simple practice if you try it.
If you dotn like the above explanation you can for sure go for the hax/gm/devtools drival and that CCP is actualy bob members and they do our bidding.
Feel free to pick which ever answer you like and if you ever feel like petioning you need to be involved first in the incident.
"Lord Samaiel, Rise "
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Buxaroo
Constructive Influence
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Posted - 2007.01.24 14:48:00 -
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This thread gets thumbs up, WAY up. Thanks Clementia for that write up. I have only been playing this game for little over a year and I hear all the old timers talk about the old alliances and personalities of EVE and only get a glimpse of what the days of old were.
I was going to post a thread about this today because I wanted a lot of views on the history of eve but was afraid it would lead to a flamefest etc. But you beat me to it, and Clementia's write up really opened up a lot of things that I have heard about, but didn't know the details.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.01.24 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 24/01/2007 15:41:37
Originally by: Graalum LV almost beat RA by using spies to offline many ra poses. Ra was beaten badly if by badly you mean in a poor and vile manner. If you mean they were beaten decisive and thoroughly, that was never the case.
lol, bull****. I remember only one incident, when some spy offlined some pos.
It seems you have no clue about the whole war: The tough fighting for a long time with massive dread losses on all sides, the allis that came, left or switched sides (Ghost of Retribution anyone ? They fought on RAs side for Cache, then switched for some reasons, then left.).
RED didn't lose their ground to offlining poses, that speeded only the loss of one system in Cache up, they lost almost all their ground after their dreadfleet was annihilated in combat.. Their heavy losses let them switch strategy later. That strategy can be destribed as 'Keep losses low, no fun for the enemy, bore them to death, play the pos-game well ( like recapturing CJ with the carrierexpl.... and throwing dozens of large poses at the moons in one night. They had lost every station already, also C-J, many people forget that also.)
What then followed was a long campaign around c-j with heavy dread-losses for the coalition and stuff like the eradication of ERAs dreads in Cache, probably ERAs own fault, where RED was really successfull, the Coalition's attempt to recapture C-J with the help of ASCN's capitals on one weekend, which only led to crashing the node (old hardware before the upgrade) and losing some capitals, but not recapturing C-J from RA, then the retreat of the Coalition from the c-j area and later RA's move to get Goonfleet, Imperium, TCF to help them. ______________ *need new sig* |

Reiisha
Satal's Legion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.24 17:11:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Needer
As the history is summed up properly...an actual advice for the presence.
BoB developed the biggest and most efficienct Propaganda machine in EVE. This is why they scan the Forum for Posts like this...
Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 18/01/2007 10:44:21
Originally by: Clementina BoB chained PA for a long period of time, then an alliance called [G] arose. [G] displaced BoB in the north
Your history is fairly accurate from our pov. However, this comment is incorrect.
[G] never displaced BoB.
I put forward the idea to move at the height of our success, when we owned 7 regions in order to go and find a new challenge.
[G] then replaced BoB when we left.
dbp
and always try to make all poeple believe that Bob is unbeatable and send them to their own (BoB) written history.
My memory about this event is the first version.
Propaganda is what Presidio was doing in the BoB/PA conflict.
I've been there myself, and i'd take BoB's word over most others. They aren't a bunch of lying, logging bastards as some of you want us to believe... Get off your high horse for once and stop making the propaganda you hate so much.
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dabster
Minmatar Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.24 17:48:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Kashre
Quote: exCFS elements formed an alliance without the fat called Firmus Ixion. They fought FA and beat them, then fought BoB and beat them. Then later would have a long period of peace. BoB meanwhile consolidated control of Fountain and Delve and Period Basis. Much later they would chase IMP from 0.0. Meanwhile FIX was attacked by a multitude of alliances, they were losing, this is when BoB counterattacked the alliances for FIX, in return FIX relinquished its official claims on space to BoB.
Just some clarification: I wouldnt honestly say we beat BOB, although I like to think we held our own. There was never any serious hardcore warfare going on there, more like bored PvPers looking for a good time. My most common recolection of BOB in FIX space was Blacklight getting drunk and taking 2-4 ship suicide squads to 9cgs to see what kind of trouble he could get into.
Also, we fought the CFS in Querious while they were at war with FA, and we were more or less FA allies after that. I dont recall that we ever fought FA.
I also don't think we had all that much peace tbh :P Although we did have periods with no cataclysmic wars and just the traditional incursions of annoying pirates and CA.
I would like to second the part about FA and FIX.
FA and FIX were allies (albeit more of a NAP, not much activly doing things together), until FIX went blue to BOB. FA thought this was wrong and eventually declared they could no longer be blue to FIX. There was never any warfaring from either side though, just a change of status in relationships.
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Sinlare
Gallente Sinlare Auditorium
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Posted - 2007.01.24 19:18:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Dirtball Edited by: Dirtball on 24/01/2007 03:58:48 I heard something about imp being unable to cyno their dreads even after petitioning it shortly after castor while bob was able to freely cyno their dreads and destroy their pos's. Can someone clear that one up.
I was also curious about the similarities between the above story and cyvok being unable to use the titans jump portal to circumvent bob bubble camping gates and go directly after dread fleets hitting the pos's. Can someone also clear that up.
Feel free to mention tinfoil hats,
edit: last part invloved asking about petitions which are not to be discussed so I removed it
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Marine03112
Minmatar Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.24 20:07:00 -
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I just want to add to this post. I have been around for close to 3 years and G never displaced bob from the north. EVER! We moved along to the south to have fun down there. 
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Empyre
Domestic Reform
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Posted - 2007.01.24 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Laboratus Morale is the most important factor in any battle. A broken army has no less men nor weapons than it had before. The only thing that has changed is the fact that the army no longer stands and fights, but runs. That is why controling the public perception of events is so important. As long as they can maintain an image of invincibility no-one who fights them expects to win in the long term. Hence, morale is already broken and everyone they target start to prepare for retreat from day one. After this, all they have to do is advance... That is why propaganda is so important.
..and this is exactly the reason why we have so much crap on the forums. it reminds me of US elections. people spend more time, here on the forums, talking about how crappy their enemy is than doing anything to prove their worth. then everyone else shores up their partisan skills, picks a side and next thing you know, the thread is getting locked.
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Dirtball
Kemono.
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Posted - 2007.01.25 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: Dirtball on 24/01/2007 23:59:13
Originally by: Sinlare
Seriously, are you always some paranoid bigot?
Its a simple question to imp and ascn I just want to hear their sides of the stories, as I didnt hear the imp one until this last week. The ascn one was wether he just didnt have the skills to use it, no one told him how to use it/he didnt know how, or as was obviously later disproved, but he wrote that the portaling wasnt gonna be implemented until the next patch. Both instances seemed to revolve around brand new forms of travel that one side could use while the other was unable to or didnt know how. Evemail or convo me you dont need to post here imp or ascn dudes.
Paranoid, yes it keeps me alive Bigot, if that means hating people who instantly log when my name pops into local yes I am a bigot towards them and bob seems to have that down to an artform and that is not smack that is a fact that I've had to deal with probably hundreds of times having things on scanner then they leave local. If me smacking them right here and posting things like this and this means that one less bob guy will log on me or my corp than my forum propaganda has all been worth it.
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Radioactive Babe
Red Frost
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Posted - 2007.02.05 12:59:00 -
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Edited by: Radioactive Babe on 05/02/2007 13:00:21
Originally by: Dirtball ....I R TEH UBER .....
Sigh, what is it about this part of the forums that attracts chest beaters? ...
Welcome back to Lyzander ... my main and alt account was in CME with you, good times good times ... I see that Tristan is in VOTF in the new CA (dont know if he is active) and CME is under new ownership (and also in the new CA) ... Octobersnow's corp has been taken over by ginger magician (low sec camper, probably singlehandedly killed more noobs than several alliances put together - and no I am not joking) ...
Conquerable stations used to be a PITA (ping ponging stations) but POS's make the whole situation 10x worse ... deathstar POS's that can insta pop BS's = big fleets of dread's that get popped due to players lagging so badly they cannot get into or out of siege mode or turn on hardeners etc .... all in all, POS warfare = antifun
(yikes, apologies for the thread necro ... came here from a link in General Discussion)
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.02.05 13:35:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 05/02/2007 13:35:23 Current state in short: BoB have successfully conquered almost all brains of the EVE population, from the 1-week-old nub in Jita who's never seen 0.0 to most alliances in EVE.
With owning regions they are not as far as that currently. But BoB'o'mania has spread and seems unstoppable.  ______________
Originally by: Patch86 Combat in EVE is non-consensual. Unlike most games, EVE, by design, forces you to be ready for violence everywhere-even hi-sec space.
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Nai Ling
Diligent Souls
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Posted - 2007.02.05 17:11:00 -
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I can sort of fill in the blanks as far as the South East goes, from the point of LV's conception to almost current. There will be holes in it, as there are things I cannot remember clearly, and most of the early on stuff is from "History Lessons" from LV members.
There was a time, as you can see on the animated gif, that RA controlled a vast amount of the Regions in the SE. LV was formed and took Omist, and then Tenerfis. Somewhere in there -V- (Veritas Immortalis) and CHIMP (Chimaera Pact) were formed and took Great Wildlands and Detorid respectively. LV moved in and took part of Detorid to help in it's defense vs RA. The 3 allied together to formally create what is called as "The Coalition" against Red Alliance.
For the first couple months, the Coalition was largely successful against Red Alliance. Beating them back to Insmother + Cache, The Coalition started bringing in friendly alliances to help in the war effort. Knights of the SouthernCross and ERA were two of them that I remember.
At this point, CHIMP controlled Detorid, Immensea, and Insmother, while -V- held Great Wildlands and Scalding Pass, while LV controlled Omist, Tenerfis, and part of Detorid. When two of the largest PVP corporations in CHIMP left to join LV, CHIMP gave the whole of Insmother and Detorid to LV and moved into Immensea to better defend their region. The Coalition continued to be largely successful in their campaign against Red Alliance until the retake of the station in C-J by RA. It was a massive assault over many days that the Coalition held for a long time, but eventually RA got the win in that battle out of pure devotion.
ERA was the first to fall, after taking over Cache, they were beaten out shortly after losing 11 dreadnaughts in a single battle to Red Alliance. (For a long time, the largest captial ship loss in a single battle. Beating out LV's 9 Dreadnaught kills against Red Alliance.)
The long victory for the Coalition started to come to yet another stalemate when Red Alliance took back the station in C-J. This was the start of a long stalemate between the two forces. There was a lot of station ping-pong, regions would be "won" and lost the next week.
Eventually Knights of the Southerncross and Chimaera Pact would start to buckle. One of the main Industrial powerhouses would leave CHIMP, and Cereal Killerz would take over as executor. Knights of the Southerncross would be decemated by Red Alliance after LV and -V- would abandon them and kick them out of the Coalition for failures to support the war effort.
I don't know exactly what happened, but CHIMP fell apart and Maelstrom and Myriad Alliance took over Immensea on the side of the Coalition. Red Alliance brought in more allies to it's cause in the form of Goonswarm (somethingawful.com alliance), Tau Ceti Federation (French Alliance), and United Legion. IAC (Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate) NAP'd Red Alliance. Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels joined the fight against Red Alliance. Meanwhile, Insmother was retaken by Red Alliance.
Veritas Immortalis, under pressure from both the RedSwarm (name adopted by the community for the Red Alliance Coalition) and various Great Wildlands alliances and corporations in the area, collapsed. Red Alliance was quick to claim Scalding Pass; while Great Wildlands was contested between the Imperium Alliance, Tactical Narcotics Team and the Foundation, and the remnants of Veritas Immortalis and INFOD. (At least that's what the map says. I believe it's just INFOD contesting against the others.)
That's the recount of the Southern Coalition War from my point of view, up to today. If there is anyone else that can ammend my recount, or add more, please feel free. _____________________________________________
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Hydraxian
Gallente Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.05 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Nai Ling Red Alliance was quick to claim Scalding Pass; while Great Wildlands was contested between the Imperium Alliance, Tactical Narcotics Team and the Foundation, and the remnants of Veritas Immortalis and INFOD. (At least that's what the map says. I believe it's just INFOD contesting against the others
INFOD was once in V, once we Left we continued to remain on friendly terms and continued to support their operations in GW against IMP/Foundations/RA/Goons. Im proud to say that afaik INFOD is one of the only Corporations to ever be named on the "Alliance" map 
We are now chilling out and "doing our thing" in CA, fighting with our former enemies against LV... isnt life interesting 
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Sigiryavrusu
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Posted - 2007.02.05 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: Sigiryavrusu on 05/02/2007 21:38:33 As a veteran of two "lost" battles i like to add some memories of old. First one is the Void Alliance versus everyone. I remember that my ex pirate corp decided to join V for more justified killing but only ended up being kill mails to random neutral station campers. They (only had 10 odd kills in 2 month period) used to be top fighting corp of alliance but the time we get there (can't remember where but some Caldari 0.0 hellhole with Big Blue camping only exit) the fight is already lost. The alliance dissolved in no time, even some corps give away one pos to enemies. I vaugely remember a huge battleship fleet i was in to take down the pos. In 2nd hour of siege 2 carriers cynoed in and due to inability of fleet command 4 battleships (one from my corp) stuck in combat with escorts of carriers. We as a corp warped in from safe spot for rescue only to be blown to hell by a small fleet of megathrons. So it was a bloodbath and soon Void alliance crumbled to dust.
Then the days of Veritas Immortalis began. Great Wildlands is the most cutthroat region i've ever seen. I doubt that someone can truly enforce rule over it. First months are relatively safe. Hosts of freeloaders farmed systems while we chase 1 recon cruiser over 25 jumps only to end up losing the kill to LV battleship fleet. The the days of coalition begin. Against RA i joined many campaigns from gate camping, mining op raids and sieges. But they were like*****roaches on steroids. They survived almost every nuke while coalition suffered huge attrition from npc station based neutrals and guerilla RA fleets. Soon the siege over 1V (guess it was the system that RA's last outpost is in) lifted with many losses and we are back again sitting on stations waiting for the lockdowns end.
This is how things looked from one players screen, i may have made some mistakes about corp names or dates but give me a break will ya.
PS: bah posted with alt, silly of me.
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Borg017
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.02.05 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Clementina
Shortly afterwards the Fountain Alliance was invaded by BoB. After a long war BoB conquered Fountain, then after still more fighting Delve fell.
I think delve and PB fell before Fountains did. BoB then rented Fountains to Xelas. FA lost considerable member corps but the remaining stayed around whippin up on Xelas. BoB came several times to save Xelas and FA grew tired of it all and left to merge with NORAD to form RISE.
RISE lived in Outer Ring. Goons invaded Cloud Ring after a series of POS mishaps by YouWhat Alliance (made up of an ex-G alliance member corp). D2+friends all kicked Goons out of Cloud Ring and the region was "given" to RISE. RISE claimed Outer Ring and Cloud Ring and napped YW. YouWhat later turned hostile to RISE and re-took claim of Cloud Ring with the help of 0utbreak corp. RISE moved all assets back to Outer Ring. A few corps broke off of RISE due to being upset with RISE leadership and decisions and created The Ronin alliance. RISE virtually beat Ronin to the outskirts of Outer Ring due to number advantage and capital fleet. Rise then received an offer from BoB to become "tenants" in Feyth. Outer Ring is currently not claimed by any entity. -----------------------------------------------
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 06/02/2007 06:21:01
Originally by: Nai Ling LV was formed and took Omist, and then Tenerfis. Somewhere in there -V- (Veritas Immortalis) and CHIMP (Chimaera Pact) were formed and took Great Wildlands and Detorid respectively.
Just a correction: -V- existed already since march 2005 (war against foundation, NBSI, the north together with [5], war against MC ...) Dezember 2005 Shinra and M Corp had left [5] and founded LV and probably also december 2005 Chimera Pact was founded.
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