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Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2363	Posted - 2015.12.24 12:54:24 - [1] - Quote It would appear that CONCORD has taken it upon themselves to distribute to capsuleers for free a text that supports sacrilegious and improper behaviour! This is a disgraceful act from a supposedly neutral body. I have in the past kept quiet when others have condemned CONCORD for unamarrian activities, but I will hold my tongue no more. Down with this sort of thing! Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Synthetic Cultist Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik 505	Posted - 2015.12.24 13:42:45 - [2] - Quote When I became Aware of the Existence of this Text, I asked for a Signed Copy, because Comparative Theology is one of my Hobbies. I have Not Received A Signed Copy. Therefore, I join Admiral Blake, in Expressing Disapproval At This State Of Affairs. Synthia 1, Empress of Kaztropol. It is Written.
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 1488	Posted - 2015.12.24 14:26:01 - [3] - Quote Satire is satire.
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2605	Posted - 2015.12.24 16:08:01 - [4] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: Down with this sort of thing!
Arline Kley PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 634	Posted - 2015.12.24 17:07:39 - [5] - Quote I can only attribute this failure by CONCORD's delivery system by way of a typo, as the latter is far more concerning. "For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57
Lunarisse Aspenstar Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 661	Posted - 2015.12.24 17:27:46 - [6] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: Down with this sort of thing!
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 1488	Posted - 2015.12.24 21:18:01 - [7] - Quote I am however, not sure to understand the correlation between a neutral entity and an amarrian sacrilege. How can it be a sacrilege to said neutral entity?
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2605	Posted - 2015.12.24 22:53:05 - [8] - Quote Lyn Farel wrote: How can it be a sacrilege to said neutral entity? Sacrilege is objective.
Makoto Priano Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. 7898	Posted - 2015.12.24 23:40:36 - [9] - Quote But-- isn't what is sacred subjective? An Achuran monk and a Sebiestor shaman would, after all, hold different things in high regard. What's more, if this isn't contraband in the Empire, then how bad can it be? I mean, it's not like this is the only text widely available. Wasn't there a prior mass distribution of the Pax Ammaria? And wasn't that subject to a particularly strident edict? Maker, I've got copies of a lot of heterodox manuscripts. These things aren't exactly hard to find. I guess what I'm trying to say is this. With all due respect, as an outsider, it can sometime seem as if the more conservative Imperial subjects are on a constant quest to find things to be offended about. Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 1488	Posted - 2015.12.25 00:04:01 - [10] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: Lyn Farel wrote: How can it be a sacrilege to said neutral entity? Sacrilege is objective. Ah what a conundrum. Obviously, they do not seem to consider it a sacrilege. And for free? Would have it been better if people had to pay to read a sacrilege? Isn't there an issue in the reasoning? If sacrilege is objective, and heathens not educated in matters of the Faith fail to see a sacrilege, how can they be condemned for something they have not been taught? Aren't Ardishapur usually so pride of their schools?
Goldfinch Order of Jamyl 580	Posted - 2015.12.25 00:25:03 - [11] - Quote Makoto Priano wrote: But-- isn't what is sacred subjective? An Achuran monk and a Sebiestor shaman would, after all, hold different things in high regard. There is but one God, and His Voice is the Emperor of Amarr. This will all be made clear, come the Reclaiming. \J/ veiled and bound my origin story (on eve-backstage)
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 811	Posted - 2015.12.25 01:00:15 - [12] - Quote How DARE they give out free fictitious story books!
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2607	Posted - 2015.12.25 11:43:10 - [13] - Quote Makoto Priano wrote: But-- isn't what is sacred subjective? No. Lyn Farel wrote: Isn't there an issue in the reasoning? If sacrilege is objective, and heathens not educated in matters of the Faith fail to see a sacrilege, how can they be condemned for something they have not been taught? They didn't choose to be born into sin, but they are choosing not to Reclaim themselves. The avenue to Amarr is not unknown to them in today's cluster. Quote: Aren't Ardishapur usually so pride of their schools? It's 'proud'. So 'proud' of our schools.
Tamiroth Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 236	Posted - 2015.12.25 11:49:34 - [14] - Quote Definitely Rodj Blake wrote: Down with this sort of thing!
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 1490	Posted - 2015.12.25 12:55:26 - [15] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: Makoto Priano wrote: But-- isn't what is sacred subjective? No. Well, there is Sacred on one hand, and what we hold for sacred on the other, as well as there is the Divine, and what we hold for being divine. Our interpretation of God's will is merely that, interpretation, always changing, evolving, as History is proof enough of it. That is what is subjective. Changing in the hope to eventually reach the Divine, the perfection. That is what is objective. Claiming objectivity of one's Faith, Amarr or anything else, is a sin of arrogance to enormous proportions, added to the fact that it is rationally patently false. It basically equates to claim having the same insight as God.
Anabella Rella Gradient 2098	Posted - 2015.12.25 20:22:17 - [16] - Quote You slavers need to calm down. Go take a nice long bath, then have a massage followed by a good glass of alcohol and relax. Geez Louise do you always have to see new stuff to be offended about? I don't recall mass protests when CONCORD handed out copies of Pax Amarria. You can't have it both ways. When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Paul Pohl blue media poetry 99	Posted - 2015.12.26 01:20:34 - [17] - Quote Really? You are complaining about concord who does nothing about pirates (indeed it protects them), and hinders PI based on some arbitrary date (why would anyone with any common sense set up a PI colony?) - in fact concord is so useless they even allowfemale strippers the same status as male strippers.... let's face it CONCORD is less than useless and now you are complaining about some book - that no one has read - or indeed can read Let me know which candidate you favour and I'll vote for the someone else.... I've got my voting slip somewhere.... though having said that I'll sell it to you for 10billion ISK
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 814	Posted - 2015.12.26 01:29:35 - [18] - Quote Paul Pohl wrote: Really? You are complaining about concord who does nothing about pirates (indeed it protects them), and hinders PI based on some arbitrary date (why would anyone with any common sense set up a PI colony?) - in fact concord is so useless they even allowfemale strippers the same status as male strippers.... let's face it CONCORD is less than useless I have a few colonies.... Nanite repair paste, the various fuels and mobile cyno inhibs are great. Making them is cheaper too (for the most part) and it somewhat helps local economies. And why shouldn't female exotic dancers be treated equally?
Paul Pohl blue media poetry 99	Posted - 2015.12.26 01:41:49 - [19] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Paul Pohl wrote: Really? You are complaining about concord who does nothing about pirates (indeed it protects them), and hinders PI based on some arbitrary date (why would anyone with any common sense set up a PI colony?) - in fact concord is so useless they even allowfemale strippers the same status as male strippers.... let's face it CONCORD is less than useless I have a few colonies.... Nanite repair paste, the various fuels and mobile cyno inhibs are great. Making them is cheaper too (for the most part) and it somewhat helps local economies. And why shouldn't female exotic dancers be treated equally? Blooming do-gooders
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 814	Posted - 2015.12.26 01:46:05 - [20] - Quote Never said it was a fair livable wage.....
Paul Pohl blue media poetry 99	Posted - 2015.12.26 02:45:45 - [21] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Never said it was a fair livable wage..... No, because you have fitted into your level of middle management
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 814	Posted - 2015.12.26 02:48:38 - [22] - Quote Paul Pohl wrote: Deitra Vess wrote: Never said it was a fair livable wage..... No, because you have fitted into your level of middle management Wouldn't go that far, check in once every few weeks. They run themselves and I just make sure I grab their products occasionally.
Paul Pohl blue media poetry 99	Posted - 2015.12.26 03:54:08 - [23] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Paul Pohl wrote: Deitra Vess wrote: Never said it was a fair livable wage..... No, because you have fitted into your level of middle management Wouldn't go that far, check in once every few weeks. They run themselves and I just make sure I grab their products occasionally. I thought this was role-playing Hence this classic - run PI inefficiently, pay 10-20$ of your profit to someone, and when yon can be arsed go in and get the stuff... Great role-play play done - +2 to dexterity
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2376	Posted - 2015.12.26 14:45:26 - [24] - Quote Anabella Rella wrote: You slavers need to calm down. Go take a nice long bath, then have a massage followed by a good glass of alcohol and relax. Geez Louise do you always have to see new stuff to be offended about? I don't recall mass protests when CONCORD handed out copies of Pax Amarria. You can't have it both ways. So if I were to write a book explaining how awful the Republic is and then CONCORD gave it away to every Minmatar capsuleer for free, you'd be happy with that? Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 814	Posted - 2015.12.26 15:07:11 - [25] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: Anabella Rella wrote: You slavers need to calm down. Go take a nice long bath, then have a massage followed by a good glass of alcohol and relax. Geez Louise do you always have to see new stuff to be offended about? I don't recall mass protests when CONCORD handed out copies of Pax Amarria. You can't have it both ways. So if I were to write a book explaining how awful the Republic is and then CONCORD gave it away to every Minmatar capsuleer for free, you'd be happy with that? Satire is funny....... I would read it. You also hold no place in Matari society nor do you live there. Does Max represent the Amarr people? Does he ACTUALLY live in the Empire to speak with any knowledge on what's right and wrong with it? A severed hand has no feeling. Why should we take his words as anything but satire?
Jennifer Maxwell Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate 334	Posted - 2015.12.26 17:11:47 - [26] - Quote If you disagree with it, then I suggest doing with it what I do with the Amarrian religious pamphlets I get forced into my hand in the Amarrian ward of my home city. Locate the nearest trash bin.
Utari Onzo Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 834	Posted - 2015.12.26 20:39:40 - [27] - Quote Jennifer Maxwell wrote: Locate the nearest trash bin. I found amazing uses for it more then trashing. A handy door stopper, when your doors like to randomly slide shut. Jam it in the middle, and it stops all that nonsense. Emergeancy hygiene purposes (for when you need to, you know, and you've run out of you know what) Kindling for starting fires. It burns a bit too quickly for fuel, but a page a day is great for starting up a hearth if you want an authentic fire, rather then the holo imitations. A 'stone', for the traditional athletic sport of Throw Shot. It's not the best replacement, but it does for training. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Jennifer Maxwell Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate 334	Posted - 2015.12.26 21:31:13 - [28] - Quote Utari Onzo wrote: Jennifer Maxwell wrote: Locate the nearest trash bin. I found amazing uses for it more then trashing. A handy door stopper, when your doors like to randomly slide shut. Jam it in the middle, and it stops all that nonsense. Emergeancy hygiene purposes (for when you need to, you know, and you've run out of you know what) Kindling for starting fires. It burns a bit too quickly for fuel, but a page a day is great for starting up a hearth if you want an authentic fire, rather then the holo imitations. A 'stone', for the traditional athletic sport of Throw Shot. It's not the best replacement, but it does for training. Your ingenuity is almost Sebiestor.
Utari Onzo Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 834	Posted - 2015.12.26 21:40:01 - [29] - Quote Jennifer Maxwell wrote: Your ingenuity is almost Sebiestor. Mmm, well, working on a planetary based Gas Extration facility in the State teaches you to be practical. Waste nothing! "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Yarosara Ruil Caldari State 59	Posted - 2015.12.26 22:11:57 - [30] - Quote How many innocent trees perished to bring this rubbish into a physical medium, I wonder.
Max Singularity House Singularity Sixth Empire 447	Posted - 2015.12.27 02:22:18 - [31] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: It would appear that CONCORD has taken it upon themselves to distribute to capsuleers for free a text that supports sacrilegious and improper behaviour! This is a disgraceful act from a supposedly neutral body. I have in the past kept quiet when others have condemned CONCORD for unamarrian activities, but I will hold my tongue no more. Down with this sort of thing! Oh PIE... stick to your Jamylite corruptions of power I depend upon thy counter. However, while I am not sure of the distribution method, what I do know FOR CERTAIN* is that it was our Amarr Theology Council that made the declaration that Max Amarria is no longer illegal. Deal with it. Also, to the others that claim I am not within the Empire... sorry, but yes I always have, and always will be. Put in better words than thee is the following quote... Arrendis wrote: Except, of course, that at no point has he been declared a criminal by anyone within the Amarr power structure. Oh, and... he was selected as one of the potential Champions for House Kador. To have been there and flown in the Trials, he had to submit himself to the Amarr authorities and placed himself under the guns of an Amarr titan. And at no point was even accused of wrongdoing. But hey, you know better than the Theology Council, right? That's why your saying this, now that they've determined his book isn't illegal? So while my ideas and visions are controversial to you, our culture is indeed progressive and modern, lest you would still be sitting in caves nursing your campfire while you watched the other Empires master the stars. /s/ Max Singularity ((* Information via private message of congratulations to me by CCP lorelords that the Theology Council was the principle entity to approve the new testament of Max Amarria)) Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- The Six Proclamations ((The Meta Show - Video Interview))
Paul Pohl blue media poetry 99	Posted - 2015.12.27 03:02:09 - [32] - Quote Jennifer Maxwell wrote: If you disagree with it, then I suggest doing with it what I do with the Amarrian religious pamphlets I get forced into my hand in the Amarrian ward of my home city. Locate the nearest trash bin. Yeah do that... And drive up the price... Everyone wins
Anabella Rella Gradient 2101	Posted - 2015.12.27 03:03:11 - [33] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: So if I were to write a book explaining how awful the Republic is and then CONCORD gave it away to every Minmatar capsuleer for free, you'd be happy with that? Would I be happy about it? No. Would I moan and complain about it on the IGS or other media? No. I'd simply not bother reading it and go on with my life. You see Blake, unlike you and yours, I don't believe in censorship of ideas, even those I find reprehensible. The measure of any free society, with regards to speech, is how well it protects words and ideas deemed hateful, repugnant or otherwise offensive by the majority. The Republic allowed the Pax Amarria to be freely distributed. It allows Amarrian missionaries to spread their scriptures and preach their religious beliefs without fear of governmental sanction or interference. While the vast majority of Matari living in the Republic (myself included) disagree strongly with Amarrian theology and philosophy, they do not petition the government to squelch their dissemination. When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Paul Pohl blue media poetry 99	Posted - 2015.12.27 03:04:21 - [34] - Quote Utari Onzo wrote: Jennifer Maxwell wrote: Locate the nearest trash bin. I found amazing uses for it more then trashing. A handy door stopper, when your doors like to randomly slide shut. Jam it in the middle, and it stops all that nonsense. Emergeancy hygiene purposes (for when you need to, you know, and you've run out of you know what) Kindling for starting fires. It burns a bit too quickly for fuel, but a page a day is great for starting up a hearth if you want an authentic fire, rather then the holo imitations. A 'stone', for the traditional athletic sport of Throw Shot. It's not the best replacement, but it does for training. well whatever.... but so long as you destroy your copy... there is money to made from the rest of them....
Paul Pohl blue media poetry 99	Posted - 2015.12.27 03:23:13 - [35] - Quote Anabella Rella wrote: The measure of any free society, with regards to speech, is how well it protects words and ideas deemed hateful, repugnant or otherwise offensive by the majority. Is that right? So why does your navy have a pop at me on account of my making money out of republican navy tags? That I have legitimately obtained by blowing up their ships... Free speech - my backside... You are just too scared of the truth to destroy any copies that you might have... go on burn it... burn them all....
Yarosara Ruil Caldari State 59	Posted - 2015.12.27 03:31:35 - [36] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: So while my ideas and visions are controversial to you, our culture is indeed progressive and modern, lest you would still be sitting in caves nursing your campfire while you watched the other Empires master the stars. I'm sorry Ser Singularity, while I find you to be an honorable man proud of his principles, I am simply intolerant to propaganda and general wastefulness of perfectly good vegetal biomass. Distribuiting your work in digital medium would be perfectly acceptable and now I find myself with a drink coaster that is far too thick than it should be.
Anabella Rella Gradient 2102	Posted - 2015.12.27 03:44:07 - [37] - Quote Paul Pohl wrote: So why does your navy have a pop at me on account of my making money out of republican navy tags? That I have legitimately obtained by blowing up their ships... Free speech - my backside... You are just too scared of the truth to destroy any copies that you might have... go on burn it... burn them all.... Republic Fleet and Republic Customs fire on you because you're carrying contraband items and/or you've attacked RF ships not because of you espousing controversial beliefs or ideas. You're comparing apples to oranges and you're wrong. As for your assertion of fear on my part, you're quite wrong. Scared of what truth? What are you talking about? When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
morion Lighting Build 30	Posted - 2015.12.27 04:00:28 - [38] - Quote coincidence
Jon Vorn Money Crew The Mutiny 3	Posted - 2015.12.27 10:17:30 - [39] - Quote I think that everything should be made available to everybody, and I mean Crash, Mindflood, Drop, walnuts, Max Amarria the works. Nothing on this galaxy available to man should be confiscated and made unlawful by other men in more seemingly powerful and advantageous positions. Think for yourself and let others enjoy the privilege of doing so too.
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2376	Posted - 2015.12.27 17:39:03 - [40] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: Rodj Blake wrote: It would appear that CONCORD has taken it upon themselves to distribute to capsuleers for free a text that supports sacrilegious and improper behaviour! This is a disgraceful act from a supposedly neutral body. I have in the past kept quiet when others have condemned CONCORD for unamarrian activities, but I will hold my tongue no more. Down with this sort of thing! Oh PIE... stick to your Jamylite corruptions of power I depend upon thy counter. However, while I am not sure of the distribution method, what I do know FOR CERTAIN* is that it was our Amarr Theology Council that made the declaration that Max Amarria is no longer illegal. Deal with it. Also, to the others that claim I am not within the Empire... sorry, but yes I always have, and always will be. Put in better words than thee is the following quote... Firstly, I am not and I never have been a Sarumite. Secondly, PIE is not and has never been a Sarumite organisation. PIE as a corporation supports the current Emperor no matter what House he or she may have originally been from, as do I (although I do obviously favour House Ardishapur in the absence of a legally annointed Emperor). Now that we've got that out of the way, I'm not suggesting that your tract should be made illegal. My gripe with CONCORD is that they they are promoting a political text when they claim to be politically neutral. Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2378	Posted - 2015.12.27 17:44:23 - [41] - Quote Anabella Rella wrote: The Republic allowed the Pax Amarria to be freely distributed. But not for free by CONCORD. And anyway, Pax Amarria can hardly be said to be anti-Minmatar when it promotes a peaceful settlement between the Empire and the Republic. Quote: It allows Amarrian missionaries to spread their scriptures and preach their religious beliefs without fear of governmental sanction or interference. No, the authorities just stand by when a hate mob brutally murders one of our missionaries or when terrorists attack a pro-Amarrian play. Quote: The measure of any free society, with regards to speech, is how well it protects words and ideas deemed hateful, repugnant or otherwise offensive by the majority. Free speech? You talk about free speech? Let me remind you of the words of the then leader of your corporation when Plantation (the aforementioned play) was bombed... Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: ...if the aim was not to kill anyone, just to end the show, well executed. It seems to me that Gradient has never been in favour of free speech except when it suits them. Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 1495	Posted - 2015.12.27 18:24:27 - [42] - Quote I think that CONCORD, or whoever is in charge of distributing those gimmick memorabilia, are simply releasing a few symbols of capsuleer influenced important events that marked that last year. The Max Amarria sure is one if those. It just sounds like a convenient way to hash again at CONCORD (is it even them to begin with?). The exact same way Gradient supported that censorship of Dekkameron's play in the past indeed. Both rather shameful displays if I may add.
Max Singularity House Singularity Sixth Empire 449	Posted - 2015.12.27 20:34:11 - [43] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: Firstly, I am not and I never have been a Sarumite. Good for you. Although House Sarum should not be blamed. Rodj Blake wrote: Secondly, PIE is not and has never been a Sarumite organisation. PIE as a corporation supports the current Emperor no matter what House he or she may have originally been from, as do I (although I do obviously favour House Ardishapur in the absence of a legally annointed Emperor). Now this I differ with you. I understand and commend PIE's role as protector of the Empress/Emperor, however, protecting a tyrant on the thrown without due course of reason is treason. Just days before Jamyl Sarum II's return, many leaders and distinguished members went missing. There was not much time to investigate because after the great battle and her re-emergence, the military victory and clean up of Karsoth's regime was indeed welcomed, but her power came unjustly despite the means. The surviving Theology Council members were quick to instate her as Empress due to her power. All organizations and Houses bowed in silence to that power, yet many kept their ethics and convictions silent, in that someday, something would have to be done and bring this these matters to attention. PIE's position was to simply support the Empress with fervor, and unquestioning loyalty (or fear). I had stopped calling these extremists Sarumites after several prominent members of House Sarum showed me their evidences and disdain for their errant daughter. Thus, Jamylites are those that refused legal discourse and redress by simply abusing passages of the written word of God, which in itself is its own form of sacrilege. Now to be fair, some members of PIE have also convinced me that not all PIE members agreed, just as there was a silent faction of House Sarum members. My hope is that all organizations and PIE, will always keep a watchful eye, as well as protect our leaders from harm. Beyond all else, the Empire, and the people must come first based upon rational and law. Defend from scourge like the Blood Raiders, Sansha, and the Drifters. Jamyl is gone. Only a fool fights in a burning house and we have real threats to deal with. Rodj Blake wrote: My gripe with CONCORD is that they they are promoting a political text when they claim to be politically neutral. I'm still not convinced CONCORD is in the delivery business. Citation needed. Regards... Max Singularity Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- The Six Proclamations ((The Meta Show - Video Interview))
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2378	Posted - 2015.12.27 22:02:59 - [44] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: Rodj Blake wrote: Firstly, I am not and I never have been a Sarumite. Good for you. Although House Sarum should not be blamed. Rodj Blake wrote: Secondly, PIE is not and has never been a Sarumite organisation. PIE as a corporation supports the current Emperor no matter what House he or she may have originally been from, as do I (although I do obviously favour House Ardishapur in the absence of a legally annointed Emperor). Now this I differ with you. I understand and commend PIE's role as protector of the Empress/Emperor, however, protecting a tyrant on the thrown without due course of reason is treason. Just days before Jamyl Sarum II's return, many leaders and distinguished members went missing. There was not much time to investigate because after the great battle and her re-emergence, the military victory and clean up of Karsoth's regime was indeed welcomed, but her power came unjustly despite the means. The surviving Theology Council members were quick to instate her as Empress due to her power. All organizations and Houses bowed in silence to that power, yet many kept their ethics and convictions silent, in that someday, something would have to be done and bring this these matters to attention. PIE's position was to simply support the Empress with fervor, and unquestioning loyalty (or fear). I had stopped calling these extremists Sarumites after several prominent members of House Sarum showed me their evidences and disdain for their errant daughter. Thus, Jamylites are those that refused legal discourse and redress by simply abusing passages of the written word of God, which in itself is its own form of sacrilege. Now to be fair, some members of PIE have also convinced me that not all PIE members agreed, just as there was a silent faction of House Sarum members. My hope is that all organizations and PIE, will always keep a watchful eye, as well as protect our leaders from harm. Beyond all else, the Empire, and the people must come first based upon rational and law. Defend from scourge like the Blood Raiders, Sansha, and the Drifters. Jamyl is gone. Only a fool fights in a burning house and we have real threats to deal with. You seem to have recently come around to the belief that the lead of the Theology Council should be followed, so it's odd that you disagree with them on this. You can't have it both ways. Quote: Rodj Blake wrote: My gripe with CONCORD is that they they are promoting a political text when they claim to be politically neutral. I'm still not convinced CONCORD is in the delivery business. Citation needed. Regards... Max Singularity Who else delivered it to my hangar? The trash fairies? Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1737	Posted - 2015.12.27 23:35:35 - [45] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: Who else delivered it to my hangar? The trash fairies? GSOL.
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2613	Posted - 2015.12.28 00:42:46 - [46] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: Thus, Jamylites are those that refused legal discourse and redress by simply abusing passages of the written word of God, which in itself is its own form of sacrilege. One can look to the written word of God, or one can invent their own beliefs. Take care which you choose. You are an upstart, Singularity. An advocate of chaos. Consider that many who have sparred with you have done so in defense of order, not devotion to any one individual. You challenge traditional values, not a single empress.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 911	Posted - 2015.12.28 01:19:59 - [47] - Quote Arrendis wrote: Rodj Blake wrote: Who else delivered it to my hangar? The trash fairies? GSOL. The Mittani did it. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Jon Vorn Money Crew The Mutiny 4	Posted - 2015.12.28 08:03:01 - [48] - Quote Those who feel guilty contemplating "betraying" the tradition they love by acknowledging their disapproval of elements within it should reflect on the fact that the very tradition to which they are so loyal--the "eternal" tradition introduced to them in their youth--is in fact the evolved product of many adjustments firmly but delicately made by earlier lovers of the same tradition. It is only those who are in constant revolt that discover what is true, not the man who conforms, who follows some tradition. It is only when you are constantly inquiring, constantly observing, constantly learning, that you find truth, God, or love.
Anabella Rella Gradient 2104	Posted - 2015.12.28 10:25:27 - [49] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: Anabella Rella wrote: The Republic allowed the Pax Amarria to be freely distributed. But not for free by CONCORD. And anyway, Pax Amarria can hardly be said to be anti-Minmatar when it promotes a peaceful settlement between the Empire and the Republic. Quote: It allows Amarrian missionaries to spread their scriptures and preach their religious beliefs without fear of governmental sanction or interference. No, the authorities just stand by when a hate mob brutally murders one of our missionaries or when terrorists attack a pro-Amarrian play. Quote: The measure of any free society, with regards to speech, is how well it protects words and ideas deemed hateful, repugnant or otherwise offensive by the majority. Free speech? You talk about free speech? Let me remind you of the words of the then leader of your corporation when Plantation (the aforementioned play) was bombed... Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote: ...if the aim was not to kill anyone, just to end the show, well executed. It seems to me that Gradient has never been in favour of free speech except when it suits them. Oh my where to begin... First of all the government had no part in the killing of Jarek or the terrorist bombing that you love to harp on. My point was that they were free to enter our space and conduct their affairs without fear of governmental interference. That they had to deal with the consequences of their ill-advised, provocative and, quite frankly, foolish actions has no bearing on the fact that the Republic did not interfere with them. Second, you pull a snippet of a post with no context and extrapolate from it that Gradient is selective in its support for free speech. You are being at the very least disingenuous and at the most willfully intellectually dishonest. I've known Elsebeth Rhiannon for a number of years and can tell you that she is oath bound to support the laws of the Republic. There's no way that she would support terrorism. It's a shame that your personal enmity towards her has caused you to besmirch her good name in such a manner. When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2379	Posted - 2015.12.28 11:36:03 - [50] - Quote Anabella Rella wrote: First of all the government had no part in the killing of Jarek or the terrorist bombing that you love to harp on. My point was that they were free to enter our space and conduct their affairs without fear of governmental interference. That they had to deal with the consequences of their ill-advised, provocative and, quite frankly, foolish actions has no bearing on the fact that the Republic did not interfere with them. Tell me this: how much effort was put into preventing these crimes? How much effort was put into identifying, capturing, and punishing these terrorists? Here's the thing - not taking measures to stop crime is the same as promoting it. Much like blaming the victims of crime instead of the criminals as you seem to be doing. Quote: Second, you pull a snippet of a post with no context and extrapolate from it that Gradient is selective in its support for free speech. You are being at the very least disingenuous and at the most willfully intellectually dishonest. I've known Elsebeth Rhiannon for a number of years and can tell you that she is oath bound to support the laws of the Republic. There's no way that she would support terrorism. It's a shame that your personal enmity towards her has caused you to besmirch her good name in such a manner. The context of Rhiannon's statement was clear - she wasn't sure why the attack happened, she was glad that nobody was hurt, but she was happy that violence had succeeded in cancelling the play. As far as I'm concerned that counts as support for terrorism. It truly beggars belief that you can say that Elsebeth Rhiannon does not support terrorism with a straight face. The only real difference between Gradient and the Minmatar-supremacist bully boys of the Ushra'khan is that Gradient is better at PR. Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Arnulf Ogunkoya Re-Awakened Technologies Inc The 11th Hour Alliance 104	Posted - 2015.12.28 12:52:23 - [51] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: {snip} The only real difference between Gradient and the Minmatar-supremacist bully boys of the Ushra'khan is that Gradient is better at PR. Much the same as the difference between you folks in PIE and Nauplius eh? Not that I'd expect you you to admit it. That would just be bad PR. *Regards, Arnulf Ogunkoya.*
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2379	Posted - 2015.12.28 13:36:23 - [52] - Quote Arnulf Ogunkoya wrote: Rodj Blake wrote: {snip} The only real difference between Gradient and the Minmatar-supremacist bully boys of the Ushra'khan is that Gradient is better at PR. Much the same as the difference between you folks in PIE and Nauplius eh? Not that I'd expect you you to admit it. That would just be bad PR. That's why it's always us that are the ones shooting at his installations Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Arnulf Ogunkoya Re-Awakened Technologies Inc The 11th Hour Alliance 106	Posted - 2015.12.28 18:33:52 - [53] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: Arnulf Ogunkoya wrote: Rodj Blake wrote: {snip} The only real difference between Gradient and the Minmatar-supremacist bully boys of the Ushra'khan is that Gradient is better at PR. Much the same as the difference between you folks in PIE and Nauplius eh? Not that I'd expect you you to admit it. That would just be bad PR. That's why it's always us that are the ones shooting at his installations And please do keep doing that by all means, I wish you good fortune in the enterprise. However, both you and he are following creeds drawn from the same source. That both of you consider the other to be in error is a minor point. Both creeds presume the necessity of dominating others, just in different ways. As to the original point. Max Singularity seems more than a little odd for an Imperial. However until the Theology Council declares him a heretic then who are you to do so? If Cardinal Graelyn or Archbishop have something to say on the matter however I might pay attention. *Regards, Arnulf Ogunkoya.*
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2383	Posted - 2015.12.28 20:00:51 - [54] - Quote I find it interesting that Singularity's biggest supporters in this discussion are Minmatars. Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Seraphim Risen Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 48	Posted - 2015.12.28 20:05:39 - [55] - Quote I find it interesting you let a so-clearly biased institution such as CONCORD ** you off so dearly. I put Max Amarria with all my other random ** I find in the universe... Because honestly I don't care enough about the damn thing to even bother finding it in my assets to be rid of it. Never not badpost.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 817	Posted - 2015.12.28 21:28:49 - [56] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: I find it interesting that Singularity's biggest supporters in this discussion are Minmatars. Well, why wouldn't we support things that make you all look incompetent? Not saying I support him but it is pretty funny...
Max Singularity House Singularity Sixth Empire 449	Posted - 2015.12.28 22:42:58 - [57] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: I find it interesting that Singularity's biggest supporters in this discussion are Minmatars. Of course you do, that's because all you are doing is parroting misinformation from your position of ignorance in my stated positions. These are not just Minmatars, they are Minmatar capsuleers that see our vision of the Sixth Empire rising. But keep on keeping on because your discourse allows others to see what is in front of your nose. You and Nippy are more alike than you conceive just as positive/negative electrons are alike themselves. Time for change. Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden -First of his name- The Six Proclamations ((The Meta Show - Video Interview))
Alizabeth Vea Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 662	Posted - 2015.12.28 23:19:57 - [58] - Quote I look forward to the day Mittani gets bored of you and goes to the next big thing. I will be destroying my 'Max Ammaria.' Forged in the fires of the forth Delve war, I've been to hell, and I'm back for more, so cap the gas and push back the door, turn fuel to fire, let the monster roar. Retainer of House Sarum
Max Singularity House Singularity Sixth Empire 449	Posted - 2015.12.28 23:59:02 - [59] - Quote Alizabeth Vea wrote: I will be destroying my 'Max Ammaria.' Appreciate your rarefying efforts. Your milage may differ. Do not use with salt. May cause bloating. Some readers have reported enlightened dizziness. Do not read while eating White Castle under any circumstances. Harbinger of Faith His Holiness Maximilian Singularity VI, Pope of New Eden (first of his name) The Six Proclamations & ((The Meta Show - Video Interview))
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 916	Posted - 2015.12.29 01:15:56 - [60] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: Alizabeth Vea wrote: I will be destroying my 'Max Ammaria.' Appreciate your rarefying efforts. Your milage may differ. Do not use with salt. May cause bloating. Some readers have reported enlightened dizziness. Do not read while eating White Castle under any circumstances. How is a White Castle edible? Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Nick Bete The Scope Gallente Federation 382	Posted - 2015.12.29 08:45:03 - [61] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: ...It truly beggars belief that you can say that Elsebeth Rhiannon does not support terrorism with a straight face. The only real difference between Gradient and the Minmatar-supremacist bully boys of the Ushra'khan is that Gradient is better at PR. More of that false equivalence and intellectual dishonesty on display for all to see, eh? Last time I checked U'K clearly turned away from supporting the Republic's laws and legally elected government during the time of the Midular appeasement regime while Gradient remained firmly loyal to the Republic's duly elected government, its laws and ideals. While U'K made a self-aggrandizing foray into null sec sovereignty Gradient continued to fight pirates and other criminals in Republic space and also joined the TLF to fight against Imperial aggression. Do keep trying to paint Gradient, an honorable and steadfast Republic loyalist organization as some kind of terror outfit though Blake. We can all use a good laugh.
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 1498	Posted - 2015.12.29 09:26:06 - [62] - Quote I do not contest Gradient staunch loyalism to the Republic but I still wonder what pushed them to promote that way the censorship of that play by means of vigilante violence... Why is nobody addressing that point? Isn't there a tad bit of intellectual dishonesty here?
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2614	Posted - 2015.12.29 09:50:39 - [63] - Quote Nick Bete wrote: joined the TLF to fight against Imperial aggression. That's some revisionist history.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2254	Posted - 2015.12.29 14:11:05 - [64] - Quote Samira Kernher wrote: Nick Bete wrote: joined the TLF to fight against Imperial aggression. That's some revisionist history. Lieutenant Kernher, this particular gallentean isn't known for writing sane things. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2384	Posted - 2015.12.29 16:23:10 - [65] - Quote Nick Bete wrote: Rodj Blake wrote: ...It truly beggars belief that you can say that Elsebeth Rhiannon does not support terrorism with a straight face. The only real difference between Gradient and the Minmatar-supremacist bully boys of the Ushra'khan is that Gradient is better at PR. More of that false equivalence and intellectual dishonesty on display for all to see, eh? Last time I checked U'K clearly turned away from supporting the Republic's laws and legally elected government during the time of the Midular appeasement regime while Gradient remained firmly loyal to the Republic's duly elected government, its laws and ideals. While U'K made a self-aggrandizing foray into null sec sovereignty Gradient continued to fight pirates and other criminals in Republic space and also joined the TLF to fight against Imperial aggression. Do keep trying to paint Gradient, an honorable and steadfast Republic loyalist organization as some kind of terror outfit though Blake. We can all use a good laugh. Perhaps you should ask your friends in Gradient how the Electus Matari alliance (of which they were at the time a member of) first came to PIE's attention. Actually, don't bother - I'll tell you. It's when they started shooting at merchant shipping within Amarrian borders. Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Synthetic Cultist Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik 509	Posted - 2015.12.29 16:34:46 - [66] - Quote morion wrote: coincidence I did not Understand this Diagram. Can you Explain it ? Synthia 1, Empress of Kaztropol. It is Written.
Arnulf Ogunkoya Re-Awakened Technologies Inc The 11th Hour Alliance 108	Posted - 2015.12.29 17:58:41 - [67] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: Perhaps you should ask your friends in Gradient how the Electus Matari alliance (of which they were at the time a member of) first came to PIE's attention. Actually, don't bother - I'll tell you. It's when they started attacking merchant shipping within Amarrian borders. Indeed. We believed that Imperial Human Resources were trafficking in abducted Republic citizens. As I recall Interviews with the people we recovered from them confirmed this. And the agent work many of us had done confirmed that said abductions did occur (and still do). Of course your organisation chose not to believe this and declared war on us over it. I suppose you would have had us petition the MIO on the matter. However, as you may recall, this was back in Karsoth's term as Chamberlain when there was no Emperor on the throne. The same Karsoth who turned out to be a Blooder. I think we had good reason to mistrust Imperial due process. *Regards, Arnulf Ogunkoya.*
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 1499	Posted - 2015.12.29 18:07:54 - [68] - Quote Okay fine... Please continue your mudslinging. Carry on. I will not bother you anymore...
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2384	Posted - 2015.12.30 13:35:26 - [69] - Quote Arnulf Ogunkoya wrote: Rodj Blake wrote: Perhaps you should ask your friends in Gradient how the Electus Matari alliance (of which they were at the time a member of) first came to PIE's attention. Actually, don't bother - I'll tell you. It's when they started attacking merchant shipping within Amarrian borders. Indeed. We believed that Imperial Human Resources were trafficking in abducted Republic citizens. As I recall Interviews with the people we recovered from them confirmed this. And the agent work many of us had done confirmed that said abductions did occur (and still do). Of course your organisation chose not to believe this and declared war on us over it. I suppose you would have had us petition the MIO on the matter. However, as you may recall, this was back in Karsoth's term as Chamberlain when there was no Emperor on the throne. The same Karsoth who turned out to be a Blooder. I think we had good reason to mistrust Imperial due process. You're right - we didn't believe you then and I see no reason to believe you now. In all the time since your immoral attack on IHR you have failed to provide a single piece of verifiable evidence to support your claims. As for this talk of Karsoth, it seems like a red herring to me. Are you suggesting that had there been an Emperor on the throne you wouldn't have attacked? Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Praezius Vheruk Darkwing Deepspace Industries PLUR. 910	Posted - 2015.12.30 16:11:14 - [70] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: It would appear that CONCORD has taken it upon themselves to distribute to capsuleers for free a text that supports sacrilegious and improper behaviour! This is a disgraceful act from a supposedly neutral body. I have in the past kept quiet when others have condemned CONCORD for unamarrian activities, but I will hold my tongue no more. Down with this sort of thing! Improper behaviour Well-spoken, dear lone representative of a faith long-twisted to embody, and emphasize, the systematic break-down of societies un-aligned with the base faith. Although.... adding the base faith from which the Max Amarria originates to the original doctrine--I've recently begun reading from the texts, as the prior fellow hasn't use for these, any longer; combining the both of these, you may improperly beseech yourself towards the behavior as prescribed as an honest representative. For all which I have read, thus far, the Max Amarria possesses the basic doctrines found within the original texts, although they are more well-known by maligned twist of definition and meaning. Indeed, should you wish a copy, I may be inclined, through improper behaviour, to have a research technician copy these aged pages out for you--for free, of course. This newer text is, simply, unadorned with racial bias, blasphemy and cruelty. I like this fellow; he knows how to instigate proper behaviour, after all.
Father Goose First Unorthodox Church of Enlightenment 1	Posted - 2016.01.04 04:13:45 - [71] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: I find it interesting that Singularity's biggest supporters in this discussion are Minmatars. Not all supporters are in this discussion. Or Minmatar. Serving the Spiritual needs of the Matari, and all Children of Eve, by the Grace of God and Her Benevolence
morion Lighting Build 32	Posted - 2016.01.04 07:39:01 - [72] - Quote Synthetic Cultist wrote: morion wrote: coincidence I did not Understand this Diagram. Can you Explain it ? angels and demons
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 945	Posted - 2016.01.04 08:36:36 - [73] - Quote What's with the Fibonacci? Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
morion Lighting Build 32	Posted - 2016.01.04 09:25:14 - [74] - Quote image contains 20x clues golden ratio is one. with this I leave it at that for you to decipher the 19X other...
Sinjin Mokk Royal Khanid Colonial Exploration 701	Posted - 2016.01.04 21:28:35 - [75] - Quote Max Singularity wrote: Rodj Blake wrote: My gripe with CONCORD is that they they are promoting a political text when they claim to be politically neutral. I'm still not convinced CONCORD is in the delivery business. Citation needed. CONCORD is in the business of doing what's best for CONCORD. If you think they have the best interests of the Empire in their thoughts and actions, you haven't been paying attention. Dark Amarr: Rumors!
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 32278	Posted - 2016.01.04 21:30:34 - [76] - Quote A Rodj Blake ** post. Now I've seen it all. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]**
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2279	Posted - 2016.01.05 11:42:05 - [77] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: What's with the Fibonacci? Go learn first what does pi mean, "engineer". Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 833	Posted - 2016.01.05 14:48:36 - [78] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: What's with the Fibonacci? Go learn first what does pi mean, "engineer". Learn what a probe is while he learns what pi is.
Seraphim Risen Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 53	Posted - 2016.01.05 14:55:46 - [79] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Diana Kim wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: What's with the Fibonacci? Go learn first what does pi mean, "engineer". Learn what a probe is while he learns what pi is. I think she stuck a probe too far up her nose and hit her brain. Might be too late. Never not badpost.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2280	Posted - 2016.01.05 17:04:29 - [80] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Diana Kim wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: What's with the Fibonacci? Go learn first what does pi mean, "engineer". Learn what a probe is while he learns what pi is. Unlike him, I perfectly know what is a probe and pi. Your argument is invalid, minmatar. Though, what would you expect from a Derpslo's pet anyway, eh? Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Anslo Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 32284	Posted - 2016.01.05 17:17:01 - [81] - Quote Your ** posting game is stale. [center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]**
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 835	Posted - 2016.01.05 22:45:12 - [82] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Deitra Vess wrote: Diana Kim wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: What's with the Fibonacci? Go learn first what does pi mean, "engineer". Learn what a probe is while he learns what pi is. Unlike him, I perfectly know what is a probe and pi. Your argument is invalid, minmatar. Though, what would you expect from a Derpslo's pet anyway, eh? Anslo's pet? Really? First off he's not my type, and there's plenty of other people in scope works I came back to help aside from him. In the last few months when have I backed him here? Even in your quote I was supporting Elmund because why wouldn't I support my own distant kin? Much like if you said anything against any of the others I have supported in the past I would step in and make it my fight as well. Just..... Wow.......
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 950	Posted - 2016.01.06 01:52:51 - [83] - Quote Awww, don't mind her. Her little schoolgirl brain still can't come to terms with her precocious crush rejecting and mocking her. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Arrendis GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1741	Posted - 2016.01.06 07:32:10 - [84] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: That's why it's always us that are the ones shooting at his installations Not always.
Utari Onzo Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 841	Posted - 2016.01.06 08:05:41 - [85] - Quote Arrendis wrote: Rodj Blake wrote: That's why it's always us that are the ones shooting at his installations Not always. But his point still stands, no? PIE actively works to fight against Nauplius despite the latter's status as an "allied" militia member. As far as I am aware, U'K and others don't actively fight against known Blooder elements within their own militias. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 951	Posted - 2016.01.06 08:16:46 - [86] - Quote Utari Onzo wrote: Arrendis wrote: Rodj Blake wrote: That's why it's always us that are the ones shooting at his installations Not always. But his point still stands, no? PIE actively works to fight against Nauplius despite the latter's status as an "allied" militia member. As far as I am aware, U'K and others don't actively fight against known Blooder elements within their own militias. Because 'heresy' doesn't quite apply in the Republic (no, those Amarr Missionaries and those naturalised slaves released into the Republic aren't 'heretics', just people the common Republic citizens do not like due to what they represent). The Blooders haven't exactly started kidnapping and sacrificing the Republic citizens either. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Mizhara Del'thul T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan 504	Posted - 2016.01.06 08:29:53 - [87] - Quote I never saw PIE striking at the Sansha and their ilk either. I have nothing but disgust for the fact that my alliance hasn't wardecced and torn apart those Sabik scum, but let's not pretend popping Nauplius' towers is anything but convenience. He's an easy prey that won't wreck you if you turn on him, but when you flew with even worse there was no action taken. I also happen to know there's other Blooder elements in the 24th that just happen to be operating with impunity, but I guess taking on someone bigger would be... inconvenient. Besides, they don't offer the same IGS propaganda opportunities, do they? I will gladly accept scorn for my alliance having failed to uphold Matari ideals, for it is the simple truth. Just don't pretend you're any better, Onzo. You and yours have flown with worse.
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2386	Posted - 2016.01.06 17:23:51 - [88] - Quote Mizhara Del'thul wrote: I never saw PIE striking at the Sansha and their ilk either You obviously never read the news then Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Mizhara Del'thul T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan 505	Posted - 2016.01.06 17:39:01 - [89] - Quote Right, PIE was alone in fighting the incursions. I was referring to the ones flying side by side with PIE in the 24thIC but since you obviously know that already and are just trying to paddle away from the point, I suspect you'll have an excuse for that too.
Aldrith Shutaq PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1240	Posted - 2016.01.06 18:37:07 - [90] - Quote Well, I did my part to help Valentina remove and recover from her Sansha implants when she was in Pyre Falcon. She now serves your side faithfully. I'd say at least I deserve a thank you.
Mizhara Del'thul T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan 505	Posted - 2016.01.06 18:41:25 - [91] - Quote If you're taking responsibility for the alliance that contains a Sani Sabik corp, py-re and people who joined the Sansha, I'd ask you to put it back in again. I am not someone so hungry for empty victories that I am willing to sacrifice whatever tattered shreds remain of my spirit for it.
Aldrith Shutaq PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1240	Posted - 2016.01.06 20:00:50 - [92] - Quote Oh, she's the one with Funk in the alliance? I didn't even know!
Arnulf Ogunkoya Re-Awakened Technologies Inc The 11th Hour Alliance 108	Posted - 2016.01.06 21:55:20 - [93] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Utari Onzo wrote: Arrendis wrote: Rodj Blake wrote: That's why it's always us that are the ones shooting at his installations Not always. But his point still stands, no? PIE actively works to fight against Nauplius despite the latter's status as an "allied" militia member. As far as I am aware, U'K and others don't actively fight against known Blooder elements within their own militias. Because 'heresy' doesn't quite apply in the Republic (no, those Amarr Missionaries and those naturalised slaves released into the Republic aren't 'heretics', just people the common Republic citizens do not like due to what they represent). The Blooders haven't exactly started kidnapping and sacrificing the Republic citizens either. Ah, yes they do. Maybe not the capsuleers with a blood fetish, but the regular Blood Raiders do conduct raids in the Republic and in Gallente space. I've flown against them for various security agents. Indeed, it is seeing some of the survivors of such a raid on my internal sensors after rescue that has led to my hatred for the Covenant and their ways. *Regards, Arnulf Ogunkoya.*
Aldrith Shutaq PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1242	Posted - 2016.01.06 23:28:18 - [94] - Quote And this is why I list the Blood Raiders and Sabik beliefs they espouse to as something most of humanity can agree must be destroyed.
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 5827	Posted - 2016.01.06 23:57:12 - [95] - Quote Mizhara Del'thul wrote: If you're taking responsibility for the alliance that contains a Sani Sabik corp, py-re and people who joined the Sansha, I'd ask you to put it back in again. I am not someone so hungry for empty victories that I am willing to sacrifice whatever tattered shreds remain of my spirit for it. We are not in the same alliance as a Sabik or Matari loyalist corp. "Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 957	Posted - 2016.01.07 05:50:21 - [96] - Quote Arnulf Ogunkoya wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: Utari Onzo wrote: Arrendis wrote: Rodj Blake wrote: That's why it's always us that are the ones shooting at his installations Not always. But his point still stands, no? PIE actively works to fight against Nauplius despite the latter's status as an "allied" militia member. As far as I am aware, U'K and others don't actively fight against known Blooder elements within their own militias. Because 'heresy' doesn't quite apply in the Republic (no, those Amarr Missionaries and those naturalised slaves released into the Republic aren't 'heretics', just people the common Republic citizens do not like due to what they represent). The Blooders haven't exactly started kidnapping and sacrificing the Republic citizens either. Ah, yes they do. Maybe not the capsuleers with a blood fetish, but the regular Blood Raiders do conduct raids in the Republic and in Gallente space. I've flown against them for various security agents. Indeed, it is seeing some of the survivors of such a raid on my internal sensors after rescue that has led to my hatred for the Covenant and their ways. Ah. I need to keep up with the news. It has been an eternity since I did any wetwork for the Brutor Tribe and etc. Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
Valerie Valate Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik 1182	Posted - 2016.01.07 07:10:02 - [97] - Quote Militias are full of objectionable persons, some more objectionable than others. Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Utari Onzo Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 841	Posted - 2016.01.07 07:22:58 - [98] - Quote Mizhara Del'thul wrote: I will gladly accept scorn for my alliance having failed to uphold Matari ideals, for it is the simple truth. Just don't pretend you're any better, Onzo. You and yours have flown with worse. First of all, I retired from the warzone on account of plenty of those same pirates, mercenaries and general uncouth spammers of local **** drivel that you yourself agree plague both sides. Second of all, I stopped fleeting with the likes of Local is Primary after it became obvious to my own eyes the likes of Battlemonks and Ediety were at the least Sabik sympathisers. Believe you me, I would have been more then happy to wage war against them had I the decision. Thirdly, I was one of the active FCs in the militia for a time and stopped doing so as I also will not compromise my dignity and spirit to obtain victory via the likes of pirates and other aforementioned undesireables. Aay what you will of PIE, whom I still admire, but I know my honour is sound. I would more then happily have pit down my arms for a time against you and your ilk to allow a joint operation against Nauplius, an option I did infact push for not so long ago. "Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 1520	Posted - 2016.01.07 10:56:55 - [99] - Quote Nauplius is just the wreck that hides the whole ship graveyard.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2297	Posted - 2016.01.08 09:32:25 - [100] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Even in your quote I was supporting Elmund because why wouldn't I support my own distant kin? And that makes you officially supporter of gallentean pet, thus supporter of Gallentean federation, and thus enemy of the State. Thanks. I have learned from you everything I needed. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 838	Posted - 2016.01.08 13:57:03 - [101] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Deitra Vess wrote: Even in your quote I was supporting Elmund because why wouldn't I support my own distant kin? And that makes you officially supporter of gallentean pet, thus supporter of Gallentean federation, and thus enemy of the State. Thanks. I have learned from you everything I needed. I don't have to support everything my kin stands for, only my kin. His perogitive is his alone, mine is mine alone. The blood is shared. Personally I could care less about the Gallante and their fight, they by and large don't seem to care about ours. If he does that's his concern, not mine. I do however care about him and others who share my blood, even ones I really don't see eye to eye with. If that somehow makes me a Gallante supporter then what about the couple of times I've spoken up in defense of Neph? Does that make me a Caldari supporter? Or Samira, making me a Amarr supporter in your logic.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2301	Posted - 2016.01.09 09:45:15 - [102] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Diana Kim wrote: Deitra Vess wrote: Even in your quote I was supporting Elmund because why wouldn't I support my own distant kin? And that makes you officially supporter of gallentean pet, thus supporter of Gallentean federation, and thus enemy of the State. Thanks. I have learned from you everything I needed. I don't have to support everything my kin stands for, only my kin. His perogitive is his alone, mine is mine alone. The blood is shared. Personally I could care less about the Gallante and their fight, they by and large don't seem to care about ours. If he does that's his concern, not mine. I do however care about him and others who share my blood, even ones I really don't see eye to eye with. If that somehow makes me a Gallante supporter then what about the couple of times I've spoken up in defense of Neph? Does that make me a Caldari supporter? Or Samira, making me a Amarr supporter in your logic. I don't care whom else you have supported, but if you support the enemy, you become the enemy. For example if you have worked for the State your whole life and then betrayed the State and worked for frogs you can't defend yourself against charges in treason, listing for what good peoples you worked. And that your "blood" worshipping... are you sort of minmatar Sani Sabik or what?... For example, I am Caldari. And defend Caldari Blood, because it was ideal of Tibus Heth. But does that mean I would ever support a gurista, who is like 95% of Caldari origin? Or a dissident scum like someone from that Arek'Jaalan? Were Caldari too, by the way. That would be idiocy and nonsence. Your blood argument is invalid. You have supported Gallentean. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 839	Posted - 2016.01.09 13:39:05 - [103] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: For example if you have worked for the State your whole life and then betrayed the State and worked for frogs you can't defend yourself against charges in treason, listing for what good peoples you worked Can't deny that, fully agree. Diana Kim wrote: And that your "blood" worshipping... are you sort of minmatar Sani Sabik or what?... For example, I am Caldari. And defend Caldari Blood, because it was ideal of Tibus Heth. But does that mean I would ever support a gurista, who is like 95% of Caldari origin? Or a dissident scum like someone from that Arek'Jaalan? Were Caldari too, by the way. Where do you get "blood worship" from anything I said? I support my tribe, my kin. Diana Kim wrote: That would be idiocy and nonsence. Your blood argument is invalid. You have supported Gallentean. I guess we'll agree to disagree then.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2301	Posted - 2016.01.09 13:53:29 - [104] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Where do you get "blood worship" from anything I said? I support my tribe, my kin. Umm... just slight exaggeration. Sorry?.. Still my point stands. You have supported a gallentean lapdog and thus gallente federation. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 839	Posted - 2016.01.09 14:10:52 - [105] - Quote Diana Kim wrote: Deitra Vess wrote: Where do you get "blood worship" from anything I said? I support my tribe, my kin. Umm... just slight exaggeration. Sorry?.. Still my point stands. You have supported a gallentean lapdog and thus gallente federation. No problem on the exaggeration thing, happens to us all. Only thing to really throw in on the second part would be: I support someone who (some what) like myself currently Is merely fighting for money. He chose a group with an age old agenda, I'm currently supporting a group with a much more recently developed agenda. I believe he has said himself he could care less about them as long as the isk keeps rolling. How often do you see me actually come to the gallante's aid? A while ago yes I did a few times, but opinions change...
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2304	Posted - 2016.01.09 16:01:15 - [106] - Quote There is a serious difference between fighting for money and fighting for gallente. Basically, fighting for money for gallente is both fighting for money and fighting for gallente. But what is more important, it is possible to fight for money without fighting for gallente. Though it is possible to fight for gallente without fighting for money as well, but these cases are rather rare. For me, it absolutely doesn't matter, will he be paid when he fights for gallente or won't he be paid when he fights for gallente. What does matter, that he actually DOES fight for gallente. And thus, enemy of the State. And following, every one who will be helping him, will be enemy as well. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Psychotic Tendencies. 839	Posted - 2016.01.09 16:10:41 - [107] - Quote Feel free to browse my combat logs for caldari kills, the few I recall are people you've branded traitors in a complex in bosborgor, my home system last time I was enlisted in the Matari Militia. Also feel free to look for Elmund on any kills. You won't find any.
Diana Kim State Protectorate Caldari State 2308	Posted - 2016.01.10 08:27:17 - [108] - Quote Deitra Vess wrote: Feel free to browse my combat logs for caldari kills, the few I recall are people you've branded traitors in a complex in bosborgor, my home system last time I was enlisted in the Matari Militia. Also feel free to look for Elmund on any kills. You won't find any. What for?.. Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us. In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

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