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Zafriel
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2007.01.22 20:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Tiny Tove
If shaemell is correct, then CCP have left a known exploit in a product they sell to people.
Its not exploiting a bug that can be fixed. Its just been made a rule to stop people taking the ****. CCP told people it was bannable to do it, isnt that enough? Whats the point in brining in additional game mechanics that will ultimitly hamper play?
You do realise that bringing in mechanics is by far easier than paying GMs to answer petitons on the subject all the time.
Originally by: Tiny Tove
While nobody else is going to care, I think it is shameful
Its pretty damm aparent that they do with the ammount of replies to this thread. You really need to start thinking outside the box.
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2007.01.22 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tiny Tove
Maybe finally at last, without any of the usual assumptions, misinformation and sheep following the crowd we can finally, in one sweep, leaving no room for doubt, find out whether CONCORD avoidance is an exploit.
I know you all LOVE to say it is, but not one single person has ever actually found any official posting about it.
I conclude it is not an exploit. The simple reason being that if avoidance was an exploit, it would not be possible. Because to simply make your ship go POP when you are a naughty boy is perfectly possible, but no, instead they went to great lengths to introduce a convoluted police force who turn up some time later and do all sort of stuff, yet at the same time, they can be avoided. What was the point unless avoidance was valid?
I hope he keeps his BS and somebody official finally says "Look, if you can avoid CONCORD, good luck to you."
Because it's not easy, not always possible even if you know how to do it, and for the most times with CONCORD intervention, the perp knows he will lose his ship and he doesn't care because it doesn't matter. If it doesn't matter if he loses it, then logically it doesn't matter if he keeps it.
Let us know how it goes LEWIS222.
I agree, nowhere in the EULA does it say avoiding concord is an exploit. However, as a fellow pirate, I must tell you, I was part of a thread where a GM locked the posts, and said, without a doubt, that avoiding concord after killing someone in high sec is, in fact, an exploit.
Sorry.
-Karlemgne
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Ice Conch
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Posted - 2007.01.23 02:33:00 -
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Tiny Tove, people have been banned for evading concord.
Its an exploit.
Originally by: Fogy
Originally by: James 315
Why do people say hi to Aneu?
Its like the "Where's Waldo" book.. but "waldo" got his forum access removed.. now he keeps changing costumes
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Blue Wretch
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Posted - 2007.01.23 03:25:00 -
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interesting. I am a pretty new player so I would have thought it perfectly acceptable and most likely gloated if I escaped the "cops"... assuming I ever get into pvp (keep telling myself soon...) and I really hope I would not be punished for breaking a rule that is not common knowledge for people entering the game. From what I understand it would be rather difficult to escape Concord's wrath. While I am not questioning if it is a rule or not, as I believe it has been established that it is a rule, I do think it is a little silly that evading the police is bannable. Either make it so you cannot escape or praise the few people who manage to evade the long arm of the law. Making Concord response anything but instant encourages the notion that you can escape if you are fast enough. But I rant, just my two cents. 
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Ice Conch
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Posted - 2007.01.23 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Blue Wretch
interesting. I am a pretty new player so I would have thought it perfectly acceptable and most likely gloated if I escaped the "cops"... assuming I ever get into pvp (keep telling myself soon...) and I really hope I would not be punished for breaking a rule that is not common knowledge for people entering the game. From what I understand it would be rather difficult to escape Concord's wrath. While I am not questioning if it is a rule or not, as I believe it has been established that it is a rule, I do think it is a little silly that evading the police is bannable. Either make it so you cannot escape or praise the few people who manage to evade the long arm of the law. Making Concord response anything but instant encourages the notion that you can escape if you are fast enough. But I rant, just my two cents.
the entire point of killing in high sec, is that your ship will be destroyed no matter what.
Originally by: Fogy
Originally by: James 315
Why do people say hi to Aneu?
Its like the "Where's Waldo" book.. but "waldo" got his forum access removed.. now he keeps changing costumes
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Shaemell Buttleson
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2007.01.23 03:55:00 -
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Edited by: Shaemell Buttleson on 23/01/2007 03:52:15
I think the only way that this question will stop being raised time and again is if they make ships that have been used in a criminal act instapop automatically.
Until then I expect to see this topic dragged up time and again until I ever finaly quit reading these forums.
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Blue Wretch
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Posted - 2007.01.23 05:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ice Conch
Originally by: Blue Wretch
interesting. I am a pretty new player so I would have thought it perfectly acceptable and most likely gloated if I escaped the "cops"... assuming I ever get into pvp (keep telling myself soon...) and I really hope I would not be punished for breaking a rule that is not common knowledge for people entering the game. From what I understand it would be rather difficult to escape Concord's wrath. While I am not questioning if it is a rule or not, as I believe it has been established that it is a rule, I do think it is a little silly that evading the police is bannable. Either make it so you cannot escape or praise the few people who manage to evade the long arm of the law. Making Concord response anything but instant encourages the notion that you can escape if you are fast enough. But I rant, just my two cents.
the entire point of killing in high sec, is that your ship will be destroyed no matter what.
Yes as this rule implies, but even in the tutorial it mentions that crimal acts will bring Concord down on you. I gathered that it meant Concord will destroy you rather quickly but no where does it say it is against the game rules to attempt to evade such a fate. I just feel if death is supposed to be guaranteed for aggression in .5 and above then Concord response should instant or it encourages the idea of possible escaping the law. New players such as myself would never know this is something against the rules and bannable unless they post here gloating about doing it or stumble across a post like this as I did.
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.01.23 17:40:00 -
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Well for a start if concord was in fact instant then it would make suicide ganking almost impossible and high sec would be safe again which is pretty boring.
Also i think this discussion has developed not into "is it an exploit" anymore but more as "how are we supposed to know it's an exploit if we don't read these forums"?, or even "how do we know it's an exploit when the ppl who say it is are forum mods usually not ccp employees" which are very valid points.
DE
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