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Vladd VonCarstein
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Posted - 2007.01.19 14:02:00 -
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Having flown a rail mega for sometime I am now getting the craving to play with a Blaster ship.
This would be for PvP(Though I am relatively new to this, care bear mission runner ) I have max fitting skills inc weapon upgrades level 5 and am a few days of tech 2 large blasters.
Which battleship would be better and why? Please post some setups.
Megathron
Navy Megathron
Vindicator
Hyperion
I was personally thinking of going with the vindicator but they are pricey in comparison so want to make sure that its worth it.
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.01.19 14:04:00 -
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navy mega tbh
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Talasan
The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2007.01.19 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: Talasan on 19/01/2007 14:03:27
if your new to pvp dont go for a vindi for christ sake... lol
start with a rax, then a brutix for a few months getting the hang of pvp in a blaster ship
then move onto a megathron imo due to tracking bonus, make it easy to get used to the trakcing of large blasters over mediums
then once you mastered that maybe try a hyp as well
dont go near a vindi/navy mega unless your dam good at pvp in blasterboats otherwise you'll lose it so dam fast it would be hilarious :P
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Vladd VonCarstein
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Posted - 2007.01.19 14:24:00 -
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Are they really so difficult to use.
I have been in the game for about a year and half now.
Fairly happy with game mechanics just lacking in the PvP experience sector.
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Miss KillSome
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Posted - 2007.01.19 14:30:00 -
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blaster fittings or mainly all close range fittings are more sensitive to range, so u must be good at micromanaging your mwd/ab and orbiting distance with web and stuff..
it takes alot of practice when to approach, under which angle, with what speed so u dont get bumped 14km away from target and knowing when to shut off your mwd so u dont loose cap which short range needs it very badly..
long range fittings are more safe, u have more range, keeping u out of scraming range/noses, and it is more mistake proof, but when u are personal and close, every mistake is deadly..
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Grimpak
Gallente
Twisted Attitude
Apocalyptica.
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Posted - 2007.01.19 14:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Miss KillSome
but when u are personal and close, every mistake is deadly..
and that's what makes it good.
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Kunming
Outcasts
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Posted - 2007.01.19 14:37:00 -
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Mega is good with classical blaster setup and neutron-gank setup, while Hype is good with electron/ion dual.LAR-tank setup.
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.01.19 14:47:00 -
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They all have their bonus's tbh
If you don't have gal bs5 then the vindi is good because you get a stock 25% dmg bonus which is basically like having a short cut to bs5 and you also get the nice mwd bonus and tracking bonus.
Now the thing about the vindi that was nice before is that u could fir a multi spec in the 5th slot and could really be effective taking on mutiple ships with a decent jammer but post kali this is only really useful for eccm, sensor booster, tracking disruptor etc which are only useful in small numbers of engagements so the navy mega comes in above imo as the extra low is really nice for fitting an uber tank and a mag stab.
if u want to go cheaper the hyperion makes for an awesome tank with it's rep bonus and has better fittings than the mega but most ppl will still be using the mega as it's a good all round blaster ship and is obviously very cheap.
i personally have a vindi, hyperion and mega and use them all in different situations.
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Bigby
angels of darkness LTD
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Posted - 2007.01.19 14:58:00 -
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Which faction gives out the Vindi BPC? Don't fancy shelling out all the ISK for one BPC
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Helen
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:01:00 -
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Serpentis or The Syndicate.
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Bigby
angels of darkness LTD
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Helen
Serpentis or The Syndicate.
Ta, now how the hell do I get my standing with them good enough to talk to a level 1 agent :)
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Vladd VonCarstein
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:05:00 -
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What about using sensor dampener to aid in getting close while sustaining as little damage as possible
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Helen
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Bigby
Originally by: Helen
Serpentis or The Syndicate.
Ta, now how the hell do I get my standing with them good enough to talk to a level 1 agent :)
That would require a new thread mate.
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Nicocat
Caldari
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Bigby
Originally by: Helen
Serpentis or The Syndicate.
Ta, now how the hell do I get my standing with them good enough to talk to a level 1 agent :)
Psst... Serp space is deep in Fountain. =P
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Ecky X
SniggWaffe
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:16:00 -
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I would rather use a tracking disruptor, it will really throw off any BS you fight. Unless they are using blasters too, and have you webbed, even slight transversal will prevent most of their hits.
The problem with taking an expensive ship into PvP is this: What about their friends? Some people do roam alone, but quite often they have a friend or 2 or 8 in the next system over. Sure, you can beat them in 1v1 (don't need a Vindi for that), but if they can tank you long enough for their friends to get there, you're finished, no matter what you're in. Usually anyway. To be good at PvP is to be fast and proficient at taking them out, knowing when you can't win, and knowing how to get away if you see trouble coming.
You might consider joining a PvP training corp, they can give you a LOT of advice. Until you're proficient with cheaper ships, don't bother taking something expensive out, you'll lose if the first time.
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ecky X
I would rather use a tracking disruptor, it will really throw off any BS you fight. Unless they are using blasters too, and have you webbed, even slight transversal will prevent most of their hits.
The problem with taking an expensive ship into PvP is this: What about their friends? Some people do roam alone, but quite often they have a friend or 2 or 8 in the next system over. Sure, you can beat them in 1v1 (don't need a Vindi for that), but if they can tank you long enough for their friends to get there, you're finished, no matter what you're in. Usually anyway. To be good at PvP is to be fast and proficient at taking them out, knowing when you can't win, and knowing how to get away if you see trouble coming.
You might consider joining a PvP training corp, they can give you a LOT of advice. Until you're proficient with cheaper ships, don't bother taking something expensive out, you'll lose if the first time.
mmm not really. i was solo'd in a mega loads of times and sure i've been ganked by 10 or something bs while killing one but if u do ur research on an area and corps, keep ur eye on local and scanner and be clever then you can avoid all but a few ganks.
very pessamistic view on solo'ing in bs there tbh
DE
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DarkElf
Caldari
DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Vladd VonCarstein
What about using sensor dampener to aid in getting close while sustaining as little damage as possible
sensor damping someone with 1 damp will make them take a few seconds longer to lock a bs and that's it i'm afraid mate and after they have locked you it won't do a thing if ur close range
DE
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AlphaM
Doom Guard
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: AlphaM on 19/01/2007 15:37:47
i wouldnt have thought a TD would ideal on a blasterboat, you dont want to be orbiting as your own blasters will hit less so the effect on your opponant would be minimal |
Valandril
Caldari
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.01.19 15:44:00 -
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Thats where tracking bonus from mega comes into play, u orbit and hit pretty nice while ur enemy is stuck with misses.
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Evil Sulu
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2007.01.19 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vladd VonCarstein
This would be for PvP(Though I am relatively new to this, care bear mission runner)
I was personally thinking of going with the vindicator but they are pricey in comparison so want to make sure that its worth it.
Yeah, go with the Vindicator. PVP is really easy, there's really nothing to it. Learning-curve schmerning-curve! It all really comes down to how expensive your fittings are.. things like situational awareness, tactical experience, and identifying & countering setups are all complete nonesense! Make sure you spend at least 3 or 4 billion on officer mods as it really improves the tank over regular old T2! Give it a few hours you'll be out pwnzoring everything just like ole' Farjung.
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Crellion
Art of War
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.19 21:27:00 -
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Edited by: Crellion on 19/01/2007 21:24:55
Mega I would say... best at ganking stuff (only viable solo option if there is more of them than of you), best at working with a rolling gang (despite the Null nerf)... best solo BS killer if you think that you are solo but the other guy might become a gang if you take too long.
Hyperion has some nice uber tanked Ion fittings with the tigs that might prove the thing for duels but meh I dont think duels are real pvp anyway... It also has some "play it safe" Half gun half Nos all tank set ups that make my stomach spasm...
Edit: looking again at the OP I have to agree... start with Incursus> cheap rax fittings > better rax fittings > cheap mega fittings etc etc
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Yarek Balear
The Initiative
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Posted - 2007.01.19 21:32:00 -
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I'd seriously recommend using the mega - lose a few of these before you consider a Vindicator or a Navy Mega, unless your sh*t smells like isk...
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Vicious Phoenix
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Posted - 2007.01.19 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Deathbarrage
navy mega tbh
Vindi is better for its MWD bonus imo.
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.19 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Vicious Phoenix
Originally by: Deathbarrage
navy mega tbh
Vindi is better for its MWD bonus imo.
If you know how to use a cap booster well, that's a pretty irrelevant bonus 
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Swiftness
Caldari
VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2007.01.19 22:29:00 -
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Does the Vindi still have this borked agility that makes it accelerate like a cruiser ?
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.19 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: Yarek Balear
unless your sh*t smells like isk...
funny story about that actually
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LeMoose
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.01.19 23:18:00 -
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properly fitted rokh > all other tbh, ive tested them all and not come close to losing a 1on1 vs very experienced hyp/megat pilots.
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