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pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.20 12:11:00 - [121] Originally by: Damion Rayne So now its completely ok for someone to bad mouth ASCN in Eon magizine? WOW CCP what the hell is going on? Are all of you BoB? Does BoB now OWN eve? They have gone to far, this allaince says they will one day own all of eve? When that happens I quit paying CCP for a game that they allow people to cheat, lie and steal al lday long. Did you ever consider that you guys really dont deserve any respect from E-ON or anyone else? Wow. After all that you guys have been through you still dont get it. I can't believe you are still running around with your tin-foil hat screaming about "booohooo bob hax!". You just got absolutely owned and humiliated because instead of trying to figure out how to adapt to your enemy you sat around crying. After such an epic ass beating I would have figured that you would learn something. Disgusting. Although I totally get how you would join a corp with McCreedy as CEO now. Originally by: Damion Rayne You win CCP, you want an alliance full of backstabing liers and cheaters to rule your game, you got it. I for one wont pay you for it anymore. Well what happened is that bob are actually a sekret RL mafia that have spy satellites all over iceland. They beamed down alpha rays that penetrated the skulls of all the employees of CCP. CCP is now being run out of Digital Communists Mom's bedroom. But please, dont let me interrupt. How do you really feel about CCP devs and moderators?
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.20 12:14:00 - [122] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Originally by: Rebellion Take solace in the fact that no one except BoB could have defeated ASCN. Read that again for emphasis. QFL! (quoted for lies) Many, many alliances could have defeated them. No one else could have done it that fast or efficently, but most decent alliances could have done it.
Liu Kaskakka PAK	Posted - 2007.01.20 12:40:00 - [123] buhu King Liu is RIGHT!!
Damion Rayne Gallente Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2007.01.20 13:25:00 - [124] Allright, allright. I made a judgement call and flew of the handle. I will never stop believeing that BoB are a bad and dissrespctfull bunch of people. What I do believe after hearing everyone is that I should have written out a formal leter to Eon instead of blaming CCP. For that Im sorry. My views are my own and in no way represent EDF or John McCreedy. I made a mistake in flying off the handle and have been placed on LOA for a few weeks to get my head back in the game so I quit looseing it. I apologize to BoB, but hey, show me one person with kindness or respectfullness in your alliance and Ill change my mind. And your right, ASCN jacked up, maybe I just cant handle looseing, oh well. Whatever I suppose. Stop whineing, yup got that, you got it. -Damion
Calistro Gallente Virtucon	Posted - 2007.01.20 13:47:00 - [125] Originally by: Dukath Originally by: Calistro ... People like the OP and this guy are the reason why the player news was canned, big events don't happen anymore and if eve tv ever get canned for not being completely political correct, it will people like that who caused it. Magazines, tv, not a single media is impartial. Get that in your head. You cannot be impartial all the time, there is always someone who doesn't like what is said, who is insulted and feels targetted if the last name in some soap opera of a bad character remotely resembles his own last name... And omg that tv station is sponsored by our government!!!!11111 You want to counter this? In stead of whining write a reply to the article with some good arguments and send it to eon. DO something in stead of simply whining. Why is so much happening with BoB and not with insert alliance X here? Maybe it is because BoB has a lot of players who really like eve and put a lot of effort in it. Maybe it is BoB people who volunteer in stead of CCP picking BoB out of nowhere. Your alliance hasn't been chosen to be have an eve-tv commentator? Did someone even volunteer? No events? In the last events did you try to roleplay with the event people? Did you try to make it interesting for them by going in against all odds? Or did you stay in your safespot all the time until you had so many numbers the event completely lagged out.... Think about it from the other side... Why would eve-tv choose a commentator who is not known, who is not vocal in the community? Why would someone organise an event for an alliance that doesn't participate, one that only complains because CCP is out to get them, that it is unfair that CCP is helping their enemies. Not only do whiners like the OP and quoted prevent big events from happening to their alliance but also to other more cooperative alliances by whining that big events only happen to bob... Stop whining, be proactive. Have you tried contacting the event team with a proposal for an event? I don't know if they accept things like that, but have you even tried? Wow, you completely missed the point in my reply, but I don't blame you. Your post is exactly what I'm talking about. I know the community can't be 100% political correct, but if smacktalk reaches the official magazine of EVE, where will it stop? Regarding volunteers and people for events. Yeah sure there will always be people who are with this and this faction. And I honestly don't blame them for coming with their views in the event they are attending. That is in the spirit of the event they are commenting on, and I even enjoyed the talk that Farjung came with. But look back at the first tournament where Ifni was in BoB, it was even less there. My point is, because you can insult, have the oppotunity and took the time to attend an event, shouldn't mean you want to or have to badmouth your enemy. I can take it on live air from the commentators no problem, but when it's done deliberately in writing, which is most likely read through several times, then it has reached the point where the nature of the competitiveness has gone out the window. And then the comment just becomes means to insult and belittle the work of a few thousand people. That is far from fair. It isn't about whining or me wanting to countering this. I respect the people who write these articles or take their time. But it still shouldn't be a free ticket to insult people, and then claim "well you can just write it yourself if you don't want to be badmouthed". That's not how things work, and hopefully people know that to be true.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.20 13:54:00 - [126] Originally by: Damion Rayne I apologize to BoB, but hey, show me one person with kindness or respectfullness in your alliance and Ill change my mind. In-game, or out of it? Out of it I know alot of BoB personally, to a tee each of them is a decent, hard working and caring person. In-game, if they're kind, or respectful, please notify us immediately so we can revoke their roles, steal their hangars and pod their clones. Cheers. Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.20 14:08:00 - [127] We're in your EON magazine, abusing your fragile minds! >>> EvE-Online Wallpapers <<<
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp	Posted - 2007.01.20 14:14:00 - [128] Rofl, I just wonder, when the first guy shouts in general discussions: 'Look at Hostagetaker's sig, it's a screenshot of their login screen, there is the proof !' ______________ need new sig
Deseron RABBLE-RABBLE	Posted - 2007.01.20 17:22:00 - [129] What the hell? I go to the link and see some girl with two muppets, what game are you trying to pull here?! o.O She is cute though
Dr Smythe Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.20 18:43:00 - [130] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Damion Rayne I apologize to BoB, but hey, show me one person with kindness or respectfullness in your alliance and Ill change my mind. In-game, or out of it? Out of it I know alot of BoB personally, to a tee each of them is a decent, hard working and caring person. In-game, if they're kind, or respectful, please notify us immediately so we can revoke their roles, steal their hangars and pod their clones. Cheers. I really lol,d at this :) BTW Rayne respect is earned not demanded ----------------------------------- Help Dr Smythe get a Corvus

BlackMoon Thrawn the Organ Grinder and Company Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.01.20 18:49:00 - [131] Ok Damion, since you haven't figured it out for yourself most of ascn in general were doomed from the start. We didnt have the t2 bs, inty or support pilots to win ANY significant engagement. Mcreedy and Cyvok either knew this and did nothing about it or were completely oblivious and therefore not fit to lead the allaince. Either way Digi (and most of the rest of eve tbh) knew this and that is why you get the matter of fact reference. The fact that you can't see how badly we were mislead with blogs and other posts touting BoB as cheaters instead of trying to fix the problem makes you part of the problem. In short, let it go, build yourself and your corp up instead of trying to tear others down to your level.
Puke Skystalker Minmatar The Mystical Order	Posted - 2007.01.20 19:03:00 - [132] Originally by: Deseron What the hell? I go to the link and see some girl with two muppets, what game are you trying to pull here?! o.O She is cute though It could be BoB + Pet symbology. Look where she has her hand manipulating the muppets.
Genrom Caldari Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2007.01.20 20:21:00 - [133] Originally by: Tzrailasa Edited by: Tzrailasa on 19/01/2007 15:25:33 ... Haxors... 'Sploiters... Cheaters.... GM's... Dev's... Nice to know that EDF is its lovable old self Consider that this article was probably submitted sometime shortly after Kali rollout. At this time the ASCN/BoB war was in full swing, and ASCN was most certainly deserving small digs like this since their fleet performance was abyssmal. Whether the editor of the magasine should have edited it out is a matter of personal opinion. I really don't mind small things like this in a mag (and I laugh even more if they're anti-BoB), since they add a bit of life and personality to the mag. If things are kept boringly politically correct, it'd be duller reading. Not all of EDF bought into the hax, spoiters, cheaters stuff. Also, some of us rolled our eyes at all the amazing stuff that was posted by John. But, John is John. I think Damion just has some issues, and he feels it best to let you all know how he feels. Of course he doesn't realize that by posting as he did, he paints a picture of EDF. Meh.. He doesn't speak for EDF. As for Genrom, I'll be on to new adventures in EVE shortly. To those that know me, thanks for the fun times. Those those that didn't... just like the OP... who cares Gen Ex MD Corporate Fleet
Spaja Saist Gallente Void Engineers	Posted - 2007.01.20 22:09:00 - [134] Originally by: Lord BlackSter I do not know what is more funny: Damion Rayne or that people say that DC's article is crap Uh his article was crap. And to be honest not very well written. I guess it's a good thing he won't be writting for them anymore.
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.20 23:06:00 - [135] Originally by: Sovereign1100 Edited by: Sovereign1100 on 19/01/2007 15:53:48 I'm not going to get upset of this, its a game after all. But this does go to show how the community of the game is devolving. As cool as Eve is now - it was a much better game the first year when people were generally respectful to eachother. I've said it over and over - and you can't deny it either - This game's player base has become full of degenerate A-holes that just ruin it with their immaturity. Its one of the reasons I barely read these forums anymore. For example: There was a time when you could kill someone and both parties say good fight - or nothing at all and go on with life. Will almost never happen anymore. Anyway - how sad to hear many of you not realizing this, and supporting the unneccessary actions of so many others. Just a downward slope these days and it will only get worse. Is it really so hard to say "Yeah, that was kinda unneccessary" and move on? You gotta work to keep your community respectful to eachother and not let these little things go by without comment. Meh, Sov I find you post most humerous and also poorly informed. Do yourself a favor and go look at the old TTI-FA, or TTI-VA, CA-SA, threads from september 2003 when eve was tiny. The pure hatred in those can never be touched today. If anything Eve has become much more civil and pacified since then. So please don't be ignorant.
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.20 23:21:00 - [136] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Originally by: Rebellion Take solace in the fact that no one except BoB could have defeated ASCN. Read that again for emphasis. Utter rot. Originally by: panman I think a lot of people would have beat ascn in retrospect. Originally by: pershphanie QFL! (quoted for lies) Many, many alliances could have defeated them. No one else could have done it that fast or efficently, but most decent alliances could have done it. Would have, wouldn't have. Could have, couldn't have. We can speculate infinitely, but to beat the ASCN that existed before the war, you would have had to be able to hit them hard enough to beat their highest level of rate of recovery. If other alliances have the potential to reach that critical point without destroying themselves in the process, then I guess they don't know it yet. Because if they did, then things would have gone differently in that war.
ElweSingollo Starlancers	Posted - 2007.01.21 01:28:00 - [137] Edited by: ElweSingollo on 21/01/2007 01:30:38 Edited by: ElweSingollo on 21/01/2007 01:27:18 Originally by: Damion Zyne Originally by: Damion Rayne You win CCP, you want an alliance full of backstabing liers and cheaters to rule your game, you got it. I for one wont pay you for it anymore. ... snip , no im not mccreedy, want to hear us both on a ts server at the same time to feed your imature and completely ignorant paranoia? Can you plz change your name and stop the pathetic whinning. There is this little jab in EON and you come here and call people liers and idiots ??? BoB might not be that powerfull in game and on forums (maybe they even are, who cares), but their enemies tend to make themself look like fools all the time. Going by the web url I can pretty much guarantee it's not John mate... but another edf'er I recall from my time ther though under a different name at the time. also snide comment hey guess that show the quality of authorship that made me buy eve-on after iss 1.... oh wait thats right I didn't . Hey btw gl Genrom with whatever your going to do mate look me up ingame if it's going to be interesting I might be looking for some exciting stuff ^_^.
Camilla Martinssen Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2007.01.21 02:17:00 - [138] Originally by: ElweSingollo Going by the web url I can pretty much guarantee it's not John mate... but another edf'er I recall from my time ther though under a different name at the time. Just to clear this up, the player who owns that webspace has nothing to do with Damion either Damion really is just.. Damion
ElweSingollo The Vanyar	Posted - 2007.01.21 02:25:00 - [139] Originally by: Camilla Martinssen Originally by: ElweSingollo Going by the web url I can pretty much guarantee it's not John mate... but another edf'er I recall from my time ther though under a different name at the time. Just to clear this up, the player who owns that webspace has nothing to do with Damion either Damion really is just.. Damion Hehe coolies I am about 6 - 7 months out of date with EDF
Gragnor Ordos Humanitas	Posted - 2007.01.21 03:41:00 - [140] Actually, the OP has a very valid point. This is not the first time this has happened - CCP actively advertises EON on its website; that makes it accountable if not liable for what is said in the publication. The moment CCP allows a publication related to it to demonstrate a bias towards one entity or another; its loses credibility. Can you imagine the brouhaha if this same magazine permitted any adverse comment about BOB, D2, AAA or any other Alliance? The forum whoring would never die down. The comment was totally inappropriate and should have been edited out under any reasonable editorial policy. It is an embarrassment to CCP to allow itself to linked to such comments.

HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror	Posted - 2007.01.21 04:01:00 - [141] Originally by: Damion Rayne http://www.zothike.com/eve/eon6.jpg , go take a look at that screen and tell me that its allowed to publicly bash an alliance in a written media such as EON. um, learn the difference between publicly bashing and a snide comment. could it have been edited out? sure. is it all you seem to be barking it up to be? lol, absolutely not. the reference seems to be a form of LIGHT HUMOR (look that up if ya need to) Your acting like he wrote an article all about how he found Cyvok's RL grandmother and gave her a curbing all the while hysterically screaming the names of all ACSN pilots that should just quit game for sucking sooo sooo bad. If they wanted to publicly bash them you would have seen threads upon threads extending for pages full of propaganda on the forums. They would have demoralized them for weeks, laughing at their war efforts and making every battle won public knowledge and ridicule them in a play by play of the battle. er... uhhhh.. heh, ok! they did that. scratch that part... (now i lost my train of thought) moving on Originally by: Damion Rayne You win CCP, you want an alliance full of backstabing liers and cheaters to rule your game, you got it. I for one wont pay you for it anymore. oh never mind, I see your taking your ball and going home? Some how i think your avatar would look much more appropriate next to: overreaction,n: an excessive reaction; a reaction with inappropriate emotional behavior this thread DELIVERS baby!
j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.21 04:47:00 - [142] "The moment CCP allows a publication related to it to demonstrate a bias towards one entity or another; its loses credibility." The magazine is supposed to be done by players and for players. CCP merely provides technical means for delivery, just like they provide people with these forums to exchange opinions. They may decide to reign people who make editorials in if the commentary breaks the guidelines, but they're generally not in business of running preschool care for their tantrums throwing playerbase, nor expected to provide one. After all if we go with that logic... does the fact CCP allows players make snide remarks towards other players on the public forums that whole world can see... also show they are zOMG biased and have lost any credibility they could ever have, by now? o.O
Gragnor Ordos Humanitas	Posted - 2007.01.21 05:22:00 - [143] Originally by: j0sephine "The moment CCP allows a publication related to it to demonstrate a bias towards one entity or another; its loses credibility." The magazine is supposed to be done by players and for players. CCP merely provides technical means for delivery, just like they provide people with these forums to exchange opinions. They may decide to reign people who make editorials in if the commentary breaks the guidelines, but they're generally not in business of running preschool care for their tantrums throwing playerbase, nor expected to provide one. After all if we go with that logic... does the fact CCP allows players make snide remarks towards other players on the public forums that whole world can see... also show they are zOMG biased and have lost any credibility they could ever have, by now? o.O And if it slagged you off what would you say then? Nothing? Bob are not exactly renown for being shrinking voilets when it comes to forum whoring. Methinks the lady doth protesteth too much.
xXBeatnikXx Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.21 06:56:00 - [144] Edited by: xXBeatnikXx on 21/01/2007 06:59:23 edit: decided this quote says it all: "Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you." - Nikita Khrushchev (1894 - 1971), remark at the Polish embasy in Moscow, Nov. 18, 1956
Gragnor Ordos Humanitas	Posted - 2007.01.21 07:51:00 - [145] Originally by: xXBeatnikXx Edited by: xXBeatnikXx on 21/01/2007 06:59:23 edit: decided this quote says it all: "Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you." - Nikita Khrushchev (1894 - 1971), remark at the Polish embasy in Moscow, Nov. 18, 1956 He's dead. Communism failed. And the USSR buried no one! hehe
xXBeatnikXx Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.21 16:48:00 - [146] Edited by: xXBeatnikXx on 21/01/2007 16:47:54 Learn your history: In 1956 Hungary was given some power by the USSR to appease the political turmiol in the country. The rebelious Hungarians pushed thier former occupiers too far with excessive taunts and demonstrations. Khrushchev had just taken power, and he did kill and burn the political leader of Hungary at that time. It's not all about the US, but thank you for playing. Also, really, the quote was taken to comment on EVE politics - use your imagination a little! (and if communism is dead, someone needs to have a heart to heart with a whole lot of political parties worldwide)
Forum Troll	Posted - 2007.01.21 16:50:00 - [147] The OP smells like fish & cabbage.
Einheriar Ulrich Minmatar FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.21 16:58:00 - [148] Originally by: xXBeatnikXx [ (and if communism is dead, someone needs to have a heart to heart with a whole lot of political parties worldwide) Its not dead...but idiot facists abide all over the world... BTW ASCN lost fair and square.....They thought they where all that..and failed miserable. I once had a sig...it deleted

Kreul Intentions Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.22 14:29:00 - [149] Should you read this post from the beginning you will see a lot of alt post and trolling. From this post on warnings will be issued. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. Thanks. forum rules \| [email protected]

Dr Smythe Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.22 15:13:00 - [150] ooops wrong way, think I'm lost This way pls ----------------------------------- Help Dr Smythe get a Corvus



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