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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.14 04:18:00 -
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I know my ships, but I don't know much about fits. My question to you, eve forums, is if you were to select a ship and fit, with ISK being no object, and wanted to fly something Command Ship class or smaller, what would you pick and how would you fit?
I found this on the interwebz (and this too). I almost went out and tried to put one together. ...but then I started seeing how many people were saying it's stupid. It looked pretty good to me... shows what I know. 
So I figure people in this forum section probably know more about this than me.
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Twylla
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.12.14 04:37:00 -
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dramiel
Simply because if you're 1 on 1 with one of those, you're about to meet all his friends.
If you're on even terms in 0.0, someone f'ed up, and it's probably you. |

Norris Packard
Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance
8
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Posted - 2011.12.14 04:50:00 -
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Nothing scares me more than a Pilgrim uncloaking in scram range of my boat when I am alone. Not as scary for missile boats but the Pilgrim has the great advantage of choosing its targets. |

DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
538
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Posted - 2011.12.14 05:18:00 -
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Machariel, because it's impossible to solo kill unless you're in a better Machariel or have a capital. |

Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
163
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Posted - 2011.12.14 05:39:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:Machariel, because it's impossible to solo kill unless you're in a better Machariel or have a capital.
Pixel UA has a vid out of him killing one with a 100MN Tengu, with the Mach having additional friends as well. I think Proxzzac (sp?) had a vid of him getting really goddamn close with a 100MN armor Loki. As for the OP's question: there isn't a ship I'm really terrified of, but the active tanked 100MN AB Tengu is pretty annoying to counter in one package. I've heard of it being done in a double repper Tempest, but never been able to pull it off solo. |

Kimmiy Kimasre
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.14 07:09:00 -
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The one that has you scrammed, jammed, and webbed till you cry. |

Archare
SKEET ELITE Sk33t Fl33t
24
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Posted - 2011.12.14 07:16:00 -
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Ibis |

Salvia Olima
FREE GATES HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2011.12.14 07:51:00 -
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Daredevils are deadly if you don't have neut and/or smartbomb. It will stop you, kill your drones in a blink, and bleed you to death with 300dps - and this is without overheat and hardwirings. |

The Archetect
Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance
5
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Posted - 2011.12.14 08:36:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:Machariel, because it's impossible to solo kill unless you're in a better Machariel or have a capital.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14624199
*cough* |

illirdor
The Grey Eagle Society
0
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Posted - 2011.12.14 08:43:00 -
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How the hell did that happen.... |

Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
163
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Posted - 2011.12.14 09:07:00 -
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illirdor wrote:How the hell did that happen....
Check the damage taken. Battleclinic doesn't display any NPC damage, including faction police and/or CONCORD. That being said, there was someone in br1ck squad who solo'ed a Mach in a Sentinel in lowsec, so it's certainly possible. |

IceBergSlim
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.12.14 09:14:00 -
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Mfume Apocal wrote:illirdor wrote:How the hell did that happen.... .....That being said, there was someone in br1ck squad who solo'ed a Mach in a Sentinel in lowsec.....
Lol, really? Took like, what, three weeks? 
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Aggressive Nutmeg
51
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Posted - 2011.12.14 11:42:00 -
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... is the ship whose pilot scanned your fit earlier. |

Torin Corax
Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.
3
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Posted - 2011.12.14 12:00:00 -
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IceBergSlim wrote:Mfume Apocal wrote:illirdor wrote:How the hell did that happen.... .....That being said, there was someone in br1ck squad who solo'ed a Mach in a Sentinel in lowsec..... Lol, really? Took like, what, three weeks? 
we were so proud
And yes, gate guns were involved, but still proud of him. |

Citizen Smif
Traumark Shadow Elite H Y E N A
30
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Posted - 2011.12.14 12:06:00 -
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How the **** did you do that? Even with gate guns assistance I don't see how that was possible.. Would have thought some backup would arrive at some point. Lol what an embarassing KM for that mach pilot hahahaha. |

thoth rothschild
First Aid Emergency Service
42
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Posted - 2011.12.14 13:04:00 -
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Mach had no scram, had no web, wrong set of drones, hughe signiture.
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Vachir Khan
TriSeq Defence Group
101
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Posted - 2011.12.14 17:08:00 -
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That km is not API fed and the Mach had ecm drones in his bay, so based on that the kill seems unlikely. Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
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King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
61
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Posted - 2011.12.14 17:45:00 -
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+1 for the pilgrim, there is no finer ship for the opportunistic ganking of ratters/missioners. I don't fly them often these days, but back when I was a hardcore pirate it was my ship of choice. The below fit is perfect for solo pirating in null so long as you have a stash of cap boosters somewhere (I used to live out of a GSC, works pretty well). It works best with talismans although halo's and grails are good picks too. Obviously you can t2 fit this and have it still work but you implied reasonably pimped.
[Pilgrim, Pimped] Imperial Navy Medium Armor Repairer Damage Control II Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
10MN Afterburner II Domination Warp Scrambler Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Tracking Disruptor II, Tracking Speed Disruption Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Egress Port Maximizer II Medium Egress Port Maximizer II
Hammerhead II x5
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Worpout
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.14 17:53:00 -
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In 0.0 you will not 1v1, you will not pvp, you will not survive.
In 0.0 you will pvppppppppppppp, and you will have to react quick, think fast and be agile. If you want to kill something as well, you need high DPS as well.
You will need to learn when to engage, when to bail; when to fly up and when to fly down, and last but not at least, how to manage and control a blob. Not your own blob, but your enemy's fleet. This is why you need the speed. Get in, shoot a fragile target and then GTFO as fast as possible. You might be successfull with kiting, but that is only if the enemy simply not burn out of point range, and warp out.
TL:DR You need to rely on your enemy is being terribad at EVE (95%) and you don't make any mistakes. |

Julia Connor
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2011.12.14 18:39:00 -
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Mfume Apocal wrote:DarkAegix wrote:Machariel, because it's impossible to solo kill unless you're in a better Machariel or have a capital. Pixel UA has a vid out of him killing one with a 100MN Tengu, with the Mach having additional friends as well. I think Proxzzac (sp?) had a vid of him getting really goddamn close with a 100MN armor Loki. As for the OP's question: there isn't a ship I'm really terrified of, but the active tanked 100MN AB Tengu is pretty annoying to counter in one package. I've heard of it being done in a double repper Tempest, but never been able to pull it off solo. Leave DarkAegis alone, he's cry baby advanced.
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Lunkwill Khashour
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.14 19:21:00 -
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King Rothgar wrote:
[Pilgrim, Pimped] Imperial Navy Medium Armor Repairer Damage Control II Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
10MN Afterburner II Domination Warp Scrambler Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Tracking Disruptor II, Tracking Speed Disruption Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Egress Port Maximizer II Medium Egress Port Maximizer II
Hammerhead II x5
The most terrifying part for me would be risking that ship. Did you turn a profit pirating in that thing? |

King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
61
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Posted - 2011.12.14 22:33:00 -
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When I was a hardcore pirate I flew t2 fitted ones, sometimes with faction scram but that's about it. So no, I didn't turn a profit with that fit because I just didn't fit them like that when I pirated. I do have one fit like that now but it just collects dust in my hanger. I planned to pirate in w-space with it but then my plans in game changed.
That said, I do use an equally pimped curse regularly in small FW gangs. I'm inclined to say it's been my primary ship for the past 6-8 months and I still have it. I've collected enough loot and ransoms, despite not being a true pirate, to pay for it entirely. So yes, it's cost effective if you know what you're doing. But I would not suggest anything but t2 mods and t1 rigs for a beginner. I should also point out that a pilgrim should always have a flight of EC-600 drones. A curse doesn't need them but an AB pilgrim does. |

Griznatch
Xicron Syndicate
30
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Posted - 2011.12.14 22:45:00 -
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Citizen Smif wrote:How the **** did you do that? Even with gate guns assistance I don't see how that was possible.. Would have thought some backup would arrive at some point. Lol what an embarassing KM for that mach pilot hahahaha.
Its in a .5 system, and hes buffer fit. Its clearly a stupid carebear that shot a ninja. The ninja just pointed him and let the mission rats handle it. |

Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:37:00 -
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Bhaalgorns are pretty nasty. |

Sassaniak
Rayvek Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:07:00 -
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cyno recon ships with buffer
you wont be 1v1 very long.
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Sometimes, you all make me very disappointed. |

Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
163
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:11:00 -
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Griznatch wrote:Its in a .5 system, and hes buffer fit. Its clearly a stupid carebear that shot a ninja. The ninja just pointed him and let the mission rats handle it.
The jag pilot only did about 300 damage which is about 1% of the damage taken by the mach.
Buffer + nano fit a Mach for missioning?
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11550860
It was the faction police. |

Captain Nares
O3 Corporation
12
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Posted - 2011.12.15 21:34:00 -
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Most dangerous thing in 1 vs 1 is your own mistake.
There are no "omfg dangerouz!!111" ships 1 vs 1, there are ships which you may kill and ones you cannot. |

Hauling Hal
The Black Ops
30
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Posted - 2011.12.16 14:15:00 -
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Gogela wrote: What is the real ultimate power in EvE?
As Sassaniak said, if you're talking about a solo PvP ship in 0.0 or Lowsec, it'll be the one with a cyno fitted. |

Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
477
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Posted - 2011.12.16 15:47:00 -
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Gogela wrote:What is the real ultimate power in EvE, if not this ^ ?
Eve is about numbers, not e-honour and 1v1 |

Zyress
Deaths Head Brigade Gryphon League
8
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Posted - 2011.12.16 17:16:00 -
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There's a lot of terrifying ships but I like the Rook in a 1vs1 and its not bad against a small gang either. |
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