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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
189
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Posted - 2011.12.14 04:18:00 -
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I know my ships, but I don't know much about fits. My question to you, eve forums, is if you were to select a ship and fit, with ISK being no object, and wanted to fly something Command Ship class or smaller, what would you pick and how would you fit?
I found this on the interwebz (and this too). I almost went out and tried to put one together. ...but then I started seeing how many people were saying it's stupid. It looked pretty good to me... shows what I know. 
So I figure people in this forum section probably know more about this than me.
What is the real ultimate power in EvE, if not this ^ ?
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Twylla
The Scope
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.12.14 04:37:00 -
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dramiel
Simply because if you're 1 on 1 with one of those, you're about to meet all his friends.
If you're on even terms in 0.0, someone f'ed up, and it's probably you. |
Norris Packard
Wings of Redemption
Black Flag Alliance
8
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Posted - 2011.12.14 04:50:00 -
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Nothing scares me more than a Pilgrim uncloaking in scram range of my boat when I am alone. Not as scary for missile boats but the Pilgrim has the great advantage of choosing its targets. |
DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
538
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Posted - 2011.12.14 05:18:00 -
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Machariel, because it's impossible to solo kill unless you're in a better Machariel or have a capital. |
Mfume Apocal
Origin.
Black Legion.
163
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Posted - 2011.12.14 05:39:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:Machariel, because it's impossible to solo kill unless you're in a better Machariel or have a capital.
Pixel UA has a vid out of him killing one with a 100MN Tengu, with the Mach having additional friends as well. I think Proxzzac (sp?) had a vid of him getting really goddamn close with a 100MN armor Loki. As for the OP's question: there isn't a ship I'm really terrified of, but the active tanked 100MN AB Tengu is pretty annoying to counter in one package. I've heard of it being done in a double repper Tempest, but never been able to pull it off solo. |
Kimmiy Kimasre
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.12.14 07:09:00 -
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The one that has you scrammed, jammed, and webbed till you cry. |
Archare
SKEET ELITE
Sk33t Fl33t
24
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Posted - 2011.12.14 07:16:00 -
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Ibis |
Salvia Olima
FREE GATES
HUN Reloaded
16
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Posted - 2011.12.14 07:51:00 -
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Daredevils are deadly if you don't have neut and/or smartbomb. It will stop you, kill your drones in a blink, and bleed you to death with 300dps - and this is without overheat and hardwirings. |
The Archetect
Capital Construction Research
Pioneer Alliance
5
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Posted - 2011.12.14 08:36:00 -
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DarkAegix wrote:Machariel, because it's impossible to solo kill unless you're in a better Machariel or have a capital.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14624199
*cough* |
illirdor
The Grey Eagle Society
0
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Posted - 2011.12.14 08:43:00 -
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How the hell did that happen.... |
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Mfume Apocal
Origin.
Black Legion.
163
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Posted - 2011.12.14 09:07:00 -
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illirdor wrote:How the hell did that happen....
Check the damage taken. Battleclinic doesn't display any NPC damage, including faction police and/or CONCORD. That being said, there was someone in br1ck squad who solo'ed a Mach in a Sentinel in lowsec, so it's certainly possible. |
IceBergSlim
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.12.14 09:14:00 -
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Mfume Apocal wrote:illirdor wrote:How the hell did that happen.... .....That being said, there was someone in br1ck squad who solo'ed a Mach in a Sentinel in lowsec.....
Lol, really? Took like, what, three weeks? 
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Aggressive Nutmeg
51
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Posted - 2011.12.14 11:42:00 -
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... is the ship whose pilot scanned your fit earlier. |
Torin Corax
Zebra Corp
BricK sQuAD.
3
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Posted - 2011.12.14 12:00:00 -
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IceBergSlim wrote:Mfume Apocal wrote:illirdor wrote:How the hell did that happen.... .....That being said, there was someone in br1ck squad who solo'ed a Mach in a Sentinel in lowsec..... Lol, really? Took like, what, three weeks?
we were so proud
And yes, gate guns were involved, but still proud of him. |
Citizen Smif
Traumark Shadow Elite
H Y E N A
30
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Posted - 2011.12.14 12:06:00 -
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How the **** did you do that? Even with gate guns assistance I don't see how that was possible.. Would have thought some backup would arrive at some point. Lol what an embarassing KM for that mach pilot hahahaha. |
thoth rothschild
First Aid Emergency Service
42
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Posted - 2011.12.14 13:04:00 -
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Mach had no scram, had no web, wrong set of drones, hughe signiture.
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Vachir Khan
TriSeq Defence Group
101
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Posted - 2011.12.14 17:08:00 -
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That km is not API fed and the Mach had ecm drones in his bay, so based on that the kill seems unlikely.
Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
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King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
61
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Posted - 2011.12.14 17:45:00 -
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+1 for the pilgrim, there is no finer ship for the opportunistic ganking of ratters/missioners. I don't fly them often these days, but back when I was a hardcore pirate it was my ship of choice. The below fit is perfect for solo pirating in null so long as you have a stash of cap boosters somewhere (I used to live out of a GSC, works pretty well). It works best with talismans although halo's and grails are good picks too. Obviously you can t2 fit this and have it still work but you implied reasonably pimped.
[Pilgrim, Pimped]
Imperial Navy Medium Armor Repairer
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
10MN Afterburner II
Domination Warp Scrambler
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Tracking Disruptor II, Tracking Speed Disruption
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Egress Port Maximizer II
Medium Egress Port Maximizer II
Hammerhead II x5
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Worpout
Blue Republic
4
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Posted - 2011.12.14 17:53:00 -
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In 0.0 you will not 1v1, you will not pvp, you will not survive.
In 0.0 you will pvppppppppppppp, and you will have to react quick, think fast and be agile. If you want to kill something as well, you need high DPS as well.
You will need to learn when to engage, when to bail; when to fly up and when to fly down, and last but not at least, how to manage and control a blob. Not your own blob, but your enemy's fleet. This is why you need the speed. Get in, shoot a fragile target and then GTFO as fast as possible. You might be successfull with kiting, but that is only if the enemy simply not burn out of point range, and warp out.
TL:DR
You need to rely on your enemy is being terribad at EVE (95%) and you don't make any mistakes. |
Julia Connor
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2011.12.14 18:39:00 -
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Mfume Apocal wrote:DarkAegix wrote:Machariel, because it's impossible to solo kill unless you're in a better Machariel or have a capital. Pixel UA has a vid out of him killing one with a 100MN Tengu, with the Mach having additional friends as well. I think Proxzzac (sp?) had a vid of him getting really goddamn close with a 100MN armor Loki. As for the OP's question: there isn't a ship I'm really terrified of, but the active tanked 100MN AB Tengu is pretty annoying to counter in one package. I've heard of it being done in a double repper Tempest, but never been able to pull it off solo.
Leave DarkAegis alone, he's cry baby advanced.
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Lunkwill Khashour
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.12.14 19:21:00 -
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King Rothgar wrote:
[Pilgrim, Pimped]
Imperial Navy Medium Armor Repairer
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
10MN Afterburner II
Domination Warp Scrambler
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Tracking Disruptor II, Tracking Speed Disruption
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Egress Port Maximizer II
Medium Egress Port Maximizer II
Hammerhead II x5
The most terrifying part for me would be risking that ship. Did you turn a profit pirating in that thing? |
King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
61
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Posted - 2011.12.14 22:33:00 -
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When I was a hardcore pirate I flew t2 fitted ones, sometimes with faction scram but that's about it. So no, I didn't turn a profit with that fit because I just didn't fit them like that when I pirated. I do have one fit like that now but it just collects dust in my hanger. I planned to pirate in w-space with it but then my plans in game changed.
That said, I do use an equally pimped curse regularly in small FW gangs. I'm inclined to say it's been my primary ship for the past 6-8 months and I still have it. I've collected enough loot and ransoms, despite not being a true pirate, to pay for it entirely. So yes, it's cost effective if you know what you're doing. But I would not suggest anything but t2 mods and t1 rigs for a beginner. I should also point out that a pilgrim should always have a flight of EC-600 drones. A curse doesn't need them but an AB pilgrim does. |
Griznatch
Xicron Syndicate
30
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Posted - 2011.12.14 22:45:00 -
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Citizen Smif wrote:How the **** did you do that? Even with gate guns assistance I don't see how that was possible.. Would have thought some backup would arrive at some point. Lol what an embarassing KM for that mach pilot hahahaha.
Its in a .5 system, and hes buffer fit. Its clearly a stupid carebear that shot a ninja. The ninja just pointed him and let the mission rats handle it. |
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2011.12.15 14:37:00 -
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Bhaalgorns are pretty nasty. |
Sassaniak
Rayvek Laboratories
7
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:07:00 -
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cyno recon ships with buffer
you wont be 1v1 very long.
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Sometimes, you all make me very disappointed. |
Mfume Apocal
Origin.
Black Legion.
163
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:11:00 -
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Griznatch wrote:Its in a .5 system, and hes buffer fit. Its clearly a stupid carebear that shot a ninja. The ninja just pointed him and let the mission rats handle it.
The jag pilot only did about 300 damage which is about 1% of the damage taken by the mach.
Buffer + nano fit a Mach for missioning?
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11550860
It was the faction police. |
Captain Nares
O3 Corporation
12
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Posted - 2011.12.15 21:34:00 -
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Most dangerous thing in 1 vs 1 is your own mistake.
There are no "omfg dangerouz!!111" ships 1 vs 1, there are ships which you may kill and ones you cannot. |
Hauling Hal
The Black Ops
30
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Posted - 2011.12.16 14:15:00 -
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Gogela wrote:
What is the real ultimate power in EvE?
As Sassaniak said, if you're talking about a solo PvP ship in 0.0 or Lowsec, it'll be the one with a cyno fitted. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
477
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Posted - 2011.12.16 15:47:00 -
[29] - Quote
Gogela wrote:What is the real ultimate power in EvE, if not this ^ ?
Eve is about numbers, not e-honour and 1v1 |
Zyress
Deaths Head Brigade
Gryphon League
8
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Posted - 2011.12.16 17:16:00 -
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There's a lot of terrifying ships but I like the Rook in a 1vs1 and its not bad against a small gang either. |
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Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
387
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Posted - 2011.12.16 19:40:00 -
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The vagabond.
Others will laugh and scoff at it saying the Cynabal is better. But in the hands of a skilled pilot, nothing is more terrifying.
Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen.
-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Rezaa
Mercenary Cooperative Conglomerate
1
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Posted - 2011.12.17 03:10:00 -
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Curse..............Full stop |
DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
585
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Posted - 2011.12.17 04:23:00 -
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Julia Connor wrote:Leave DarkAegis alone, he's cry baby advanced.
Who is this DarkAegis? I hate him too. He stole my next preferred character name, and then quit EVE 
On a less jovial note, I am pleased to have enemies. |
Digital Messiah
Heroic Era
79
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Posted - 2011.12.17 05:02:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tGECW5M_q4
IB4 falcon
"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Enter a Heroic Era Today |
Capital T
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2011.12.20 09:54:00 -
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King Rothgar wrote:+1 for the pilgrim, there is no finer ship for the opportunistic ganking of ratters/missioners. I don't fly them often these days, but back when I was a hardcore pirate it was my ship of choice. The below fit is perfect for solo pirating in null so long as you have a stash of cap boosters somewhere (I used to live out of a GSC, works pretty well). It works best with talismans although halo's and grails are good picks too. Obviously you can t2 fit this and have it still work but you implied reasonably pimped.
[Pilgrim, Pimped]
Imperial Navy Medium Armor Repairer
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
10MN Afterburner II
Domination Warp Scrambler
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Tracking Disruptor II, Tracking Speed Disruption
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Dark Blood Medium Energy Neutralizer
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Egress Port Maximizer II
Medium Egress Port Maximizer II
Hammerhead II x5
Thats one expensive pilgrim... :)
For fleet... I use this.
[Pilgrim, pvp combat]
3x Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Tracking Disruptor II
Medium Capacitor Booster II (Cap Booster 800)
10MN Afterburner II
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Armor Thermic Hardener II
2x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
5x Hammerhead II
+3% pwrgrd implant.
much cheaper... lol |
Brotha Umad
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2011.12.20 10:24:00 -
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Griznatch wrote:Citizen Smif wrote:How the **** did you do that? Even with gate guns assistance I don't see how that was possible.. Would have thought some backup would arrive at some point. Lol what an embarassing KM for that mach pilot hahahaha. Its in a .5 system, and hes buffer fit. Its clearly a stupid carebear that shot a ninja. The ninja just pointed him and let the mission rats handle it. The jag pilot only did about 300 damage which is about 1% of the damage taken by the mach.
That does not explain standard missiles on a Jaguar though. |
De BuG2
Rise on Chaos
The Fendahlian Collective
0
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:24:00 -
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Bhaalgorn, Even a Mach cant solo one |
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
20
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:46:00 -
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Sabre.
.domination sentinel
.stillwater |
egola
NSFW federation
24
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Posted - 2011.12.20 19:52:00 -
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a battle barge, because you THINK you have the jump on them until the OH SH- moment. |
IceBergSlim
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2012.01.10 20:06:00 -
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Torin Corax wrote:IceBergSlim wrote:Mfume Apocal wrote:illirdor wrote:How the hell did that happen.... .....That being said, there was someone in br1ck squad who solo'ed a Mach in a Sentinel in lowsec..... Lol, really? Took like, what, three weeks? we were so proudAnd yes, gate guns were involved, but still proud of him. ......
...impressive. |
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Alua Oresson
The Dominion of Light
BLACK-MARK
56
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Posted - 2012.01.10 21:08:00 -
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Most terrifying ship to face is any PL ship with a cyno fitted. Actually, I would bet that a cyno is a standard on all of their fits. |
Luba Cibre
25
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Posted - 2012.01.10 21:29:00 -
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nope, cynos stick to kestrels and falcons. |
Freyya
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
35
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Posted - 2012.01.10 23:01:00 -
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I'd be inclined to say a fully pimped out Vindicator. t2 neutrons with null for those pesky 20K-30K nutters, and void for when you do catch them. Officer web overheated for the null to work and get in closer for void. a-type eanm's, faction plates for less mass addition, x-type mwd, fed navy magstabs(prefferably officers but those just cost too much :P) and a nice hefty point.
Fitted properly you're looking at about 17-1800 dps with drones and void + a volley damage of about 7-8000 per 5.xx seconds. That's assuming full on hits each time so less in reality. Tank will be quite nice for such dps aswell so.... It's pretty scary to me though you're looking at about 8+ billion in equipment, rigs and implants. More like 10 really.
After writing this all i'm going to assume that flying a Bhaal will be cheaper and alot easier to use. Neut the crap out of them till they die due to lazer fire and being capless...
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Borun Tal
Cubicle Warriors from 'merica
29
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Posted - 2012.01.11 00:41:00 -
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Sorry, what?
1v1 in null?
Um, what's that?!?!! |
Cyzlaki
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
179
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Posted - 2012.01.11 03:30:00 -
[45] - Quote
My Talos. |
Khrage
53
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Posted - 2012.01.11 05:00:00 -
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excluding cyno motherfuckers, pimped bhaalgorn... why would anyone ever try to take one on by himself? |
Biced
Retaliation Nation
2
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Posted - 2012.01.11 08:30:00 -
[47] - Quote
Griznatch wrote:Citizen Smif wrote:How the **** did you do that? Even with gate guns assistance I don't see how that was possible.. Would have thought some backup would arrive at some point. Lol what an embarassing KM for that mach pilot hahahaha. Its in a .5 system, and hes buffer fit. Its clearly a stupid carebear that shot a ninja. The ninja just pointed him and let the mission rats handle it. The jag pilot only did about 300 damage which is about 1% of the damage taken by the mach.
Name: Ammatar Surveillance General Major / Ammatar Consulate
Damage Done: 36667
dude in war must have had bad standings to amarr or something...
very nice chatch though.
anyways id go with a pilgrim or a cloaky t3 and be carefull with picking targets.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
129
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Posted - 2012.01.11 08:48:00 -
[48] - Quote
The one ship that 99 times out of 100 you will NOT engage solo in null is a Curse. |
lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis
4
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Posted - 2012.01.11 09:16:00 -
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Worpout wrote:In 0.0 you will not 1v1, you will not pvp, you will not survive.
In 0.0 you will pvppppppppppppp, and you will have to react quick, think fast and be agile. If you want to kill something as well, you need high DPS as well.
You will need to learn when to engage, when to bail; when to fly up and when to fly down, and last but not at least, how to manage and control a blob. Not your own blob, but your enemy's fleet. This is why you need the speed. Get in, shoot a fragile target and then GTFO as fast as possible. You might be successfull with kiting, but that is only if the enemy simply not burn out of point range, and warp out.
TL:DR
You need to rely on your enemy is being terribad at EVE (95%) and you don't make any mistakes.
I'm confused, how is this relevant to what the OP is actually asking, or how does it answer the OP's question? Or is it a stealth whine?
On-topic: Haven't flown in 0.0 in a long time, but from what I remember, Pilgrim, vaga, cynabal, dramiel, ranis are pretty awesome to solo in 0.0 with. Nothing that would make EVERYONE **** their pants in fear, unless you're talking about solo bhaalgorn (then said pants would run with excitement-spiced fear poo). |
Todd Jaeger
BLOOM.
0ccupational Hazzard
3
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Posted - 2012.01.11 11:26:00 -
[50] - Quote
web/dps loki
ham legion
machariel
vindicator
bhaalgorn
most dangerous ships in eve.and no,dramiel is not terrifying.
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Tian Nu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2012.01.11 11:39:00 -
[51] - Quote
N-¦1 Pilgrim
That ship let you chose youre targets
N-¦2 Tengu 100 AB buffer tank
Is kill or by killed (once you know well youre ship you know at how much shild you need to turn the AB on and run)
N-¦3 Loki
Can kill the 100 AB tengu whith no problem if you use one med neut in highs most costly over 2.5 bill the right fit and implants
Sleipnir is realy nice but need cap bosters and that not always handy in 0.0
I never seen good loki fit so i post you mine :
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/507/lokitherightway.jpg/
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Valea Silpha
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
12
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Posted - 2012.01.11 12:54:00 -
[52] - Quote
Anything with significant neuting power is always a problem for a solo ship, mainly because even if you are truely passively fit with cap-less weapons the fact that he's going shut down your mwd/ab and thus your means of escape is going to land you in a world of hurt.
Personally, I wouldn't say I fear a pilgrim particularly if I'm out in a pvp ship. Oh they are mean as hell against a lot of things, but not against a lot of solo pvp ships. The neuts hurt, but with only short range and not much dps or ehp any decent pvp ship should be able to flail at it until it goes away, particularly if you have any combination of drones, cap boosters or missiles.
While its not a really realistic ship to run into in 0.0 solo, I'd say I fear a neut fit domi above everything else. If it can get its claws into you it'll kill most anything. Full array of tackle, big-boy neuts, enough dps to pull you apart. It sucks that you don't see them much anymore. I love these things, they just don't fit in much now.
More realistically, a curse is always a terrible idea to fight solo. Long range neuts are a way different prospect to the pilgrim.
A little more out of left field, a widow is a MEAN thing to have to fight. Jammers and like ... 1300 dps ? Ouch man. Ouch. But sadly that ONLY works 1vs1. |
Kiran
Knights of Azrael
The Azrael Alliance
7
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Posted - 2012.01.13 14:57:00 -
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A well flown Hurricane or Vagabond.
I know people are going to laugh at this, but they are easy to train for and realtivly easy to get hold of. And if flown well can be very tough nuts to crack.
And the only ship I fear the most is the one with the cyno. You never know whats going to jump into system with you when they pop. |
OldMan Gana
The Flaming Sideburn's
Art of War Alliance
9
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Posted - 2012.01.13 15:30:00 -
[54] - Quote
Borun Tal wrote:Sorry, what?
1v1 in null?
Um, what's that?!?!!
Aye, was thinking the same myself mate. Where is this mystical land of null sec 1v1 ?
" I spent most of my money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."
-George Best-á |
OldMan Gana
The Flaming Sideburn's
Art of War Alliance
9
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Posted - 2012.01.13 15:32:00 -
[55] - Quote
Kiran wrote:A well flown Hurricane or Vagabond.
I know people are going to laugh at this, but they are easy to train for and realtivly easy to get hold of. And if flown well can be very tough nuts to crack.
And the only ship I fear the most is the one with the cyno. You never know whats going to jump into system with you when they pop.
There's a guy who always comes into the system in a covert cynoed Arazu, he has a tag along mate in a cloaky sabre.
You can set your watches by them two.
" I spent most of my money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered."
-George Best-á |
Ravenesa
The Bastards
The Bastards.
0
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Posted - 2012.01.13 15:58:00 -
[56] - Quote
Jumping on the Pilgram train, though I add that it is much better in lowsec if you can find systems with people in them. As a rule I avoid missle ships and other heavy drone boats, but once you get something locked down and neuted with a Pilgrim, it is a waiting game. I enough tagging battleships in particular, a slow painful death leads to some wonderful raging, threats, and chat logs that bring laughs on our corp forums.
A Pilgy can fit a few neuts, cloak, combo armor tank, and an expanded probe launcher which works well for the cruiser+ sized targets I like to go after. Due to it's low DPS I prefer not to fight if I come across a larger target ratting in belts, never know how long it may take to kill them and I have no problems with getting NPC help when killing someone. I once chased a Zealot over 80km cloaked because he was scrammed by some elite frigs and did not have pulse lasers fit to hit them. He whined hard core when I popped up next to him. |
Diomidis
Pod Liberation Authority
HYDRA RELOADED
36
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Posted - 2012.01.13 21:07:00 -
[57] - Quote
The Titan pre-DD nerf?
That a silly thread to reach this many replies, and why is "0.0" important in this question???
"War does not determine who is right - only who is left."
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Kn1v3s 999
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2012.01.15 11:08:00 -
[58] - Quote
Btw all this rants about solo and 1vs1 in null.
Just get the **** out of your jew 0.0 space and you will find them.
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Lownah
SniggWaffe
EVE Corporation 123566322353
3
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Posted - 2012.01.15 14:45:00 -
[59] - Quote
A Bhaalgorn on hostile station undocks is just about the scariest thing to try engage alone, imo. |
Reppyk
The Black Shell
13
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Posted - 2012.01.15 15:40:00 -
[60] - Quote
A widow.
You know there is one somewhere, maybe near you. Maybe not.
I'm not even speaking about the possibility of a cyno, but in 1v1, the ship could just watch you, waiting a bit to see your ~pitiful~ dps, then jam you. And if the widow doesnt want to kill you, he will just slowboat cloaked somewhere else while singing "trolololol" in local. |
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Fighter26
Orion's Fist
RED.Legion
6
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Posted - 2012.01.17 20:17:00 -
[61] - Quote
+1 on the pilgrim... but replace one of the med neuts with a cyno- when they bring friends in it is not dishonorable to drop yours into the game too.
Also, there is a lolfit for the curse that can use a faction heavy neut to reach out to 75km ish range.. but needs a t2 ACR and some other pds junk. So alone useless, but with friends is pretty damn cool way of stopping a t2 speedfit frig in its tracks. |
Elistea
G U N G N I R
Y G G D R A S I L
31
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Posted - 2012.01.18 12:33:00 -
[62] - Quote
Drake - when i see it my stomach wants to turn inside out.
Oh sry i thought its most disgusting ship topic... |
oldmanst4r
oldmanst4r's Corporation
31
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Posted - 2012.01.19 00:45:00 -
[63] - Quote
Honestly anything with bonused webs, long range neuts, or bonused scrams makes me very, very, tense. Because even if they are alone, they can disengage at will and you cannot. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
784
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Posted - 2012.01.19 02:59:00 -
[64] - Quote
Ravenesa wrote:Jumping on the Pilgram train, though I add that it is much better in lowsec if you can find systems with people in them. As a rule I avoid missle ships and other heavy drone boats, but once you get something locked down and neuted with a Pilgrim, it is a waiting game. I enough tagging battleships in particular, a slow painful death leads to some wonderful raging, threats, and chat logs that bring laughs on our corp forums.
A Pilgy can fit a few neuts, cloak, combo armor tank, and an expanded probe launcher which works well for the cruiser+ sized targets I like to go after. Due to it's low DPS I prefer not to fight if I come across a larger target ratting in belts, never know how long it may take to kill them and I have no problems with getting NPC help when killing someone. I once chased a Zealot over 80km cloaked because he was scrammed by some elite frigs and did not have pulse lasers fit to hit them. He whined hard core when I popped up next to him.
With such crappy gameplay you'd be a lot better on a real ship like the cloacky Proteus but you'd still need some balls, that's the worst part of the game for you.
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Palladias
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.01.19 03:06:00 -
[65] - Quote
Tanya Powers wrote:Ravenesa wrote:Jumping on the Pilgram train, though I add that it is much better in lowsec if you can find systems with people in them. As a rule I avoid missle ships and other heavy drone boats, but once you get something locked down and neuted with a Pilgrim, it is a waiting game. I enough tagging battleships in particular, a slow painful death leads to some wonderful raging, threats, and chat logs that bring laughs on our corp forums.
A Pilgy can fit a few neuts, cloak, combo armor tank, and an expanded probe launcher which works well for the cruiser+ sized targets I like to go after. Due to it's low DPS I prefer not to fight if I come across a larger target ratting in belts, never know how long it may take to kill them and I have no problems with getting NPC help when killing someone. I once chased a Zealot over 80km cloaked because he was scrammed by some elite frigs and did not have pulse lasers fit to hit them. He whined hard core when I popped up next to him. With such crappy gameplay you'd be a lot better on a real ship like the cloacky Proteus but you'd still need some balls, that's the worst part of the game for you.
Yeah, real men don't fit cloaks on their pilgrims and fight the most inopportune targets possible.
What a sissy! |
Khrage
62
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Posted - 2012.01.19 06:07:00 -
[66] - Quote
oldmanst4r wrote:Honestly anything with bonused webs, long range neuts, or bonused scrams makes me very, very, tense. Because even if they are alone, they can disengage at will and you cannot.
i stand by my choice of a bhaalgorn... my i ask if there is a ship that can beat it in this 1v1 situation? |
A'Brantox Foson
14
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Posted - 2012.01.19 08:01:00 -
[67] - Quote
Khrage wrote:oldmanst4r wrote:Honestly anything with bonused webs, long range neuts, or bonused scrams makes me very, very, tense. Because even if they are alone, they can disengage at will and you cannot. i stand by my choice of a bhaalgorn... my i ask if there is a ship that can beat it in this 1v1 situation?
An armor buffer mach could kill a bhaal. Saying that I suppose the typhoon too. |
Khrage
62
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Posted - 2012.01.19 08:23:00 -
[68] - Quote
A'Brantox Foson wrote:Khrage wrote:oldmanst4r wrote:Honestly anything with bonused webs, long range neuts, or bonused scrams makes me very, very, tense. Because even if they are alone, they can disengage at will and you cannot. i stand by my choice of a bhaalgorn... my i ask if there is a ship that can beat it in this 1v1 situation? An armor buffer mach could kill a bhaal. Saying that I suppose the typhoon too.
they both wouldn't be able to keep the bhaalgorn tackled even if they were able to topple its tank.
should i rephrase that previous question with A'Brantox's quote on top in mind?
may i ask if there is a ship that can actually kill a bhaalgorn in this 1v1 situation? (i know OP originally said BC or smaller, but still...) |
A'Brantox Foson
14
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Posted - 2012.01.19 08:34:00 -
[69] - Quote
Khrage wrote:A'Brantox Foson wrote:Khrage wrote:oldmanst4r wrote:Honestly anything with bonused webs, long range neuts, or bonused scrams makes me very, very, tense. Because even if they are alone, they can disengage at will and you cannot. i stand by my choice of a bhaalgorn... my i ask if there is a ship that can beat it in this 1v1 situation? An armor buffer mach could kill a bhaal. Saying that I suppose the typhoon too. they both wouldn't be able to keep the bhaalgorn tackled even if they were able to topple its tank. should i rephrase that previous question with A'Brantox's quote on top in mind? may i ask if there is a ship that can actually kill a bhaalgorn in this 1v1 situation? (i know OP originally said BC or smaller, but still...)
Obviously u will use a cap booster, and apply charge wen tackle is needed. Cap doesn't get sucked out of your cargo after all.
Now, as to why a bhaal would be out and about solo, is more the quesiton. Might suggest he is a stupid pilot, or he's got a cyno. Id be more unwilling to angage, becaus ehe might have a cyno, otherwise. Its a simple enough affair. Doesn't require much cap to use a point.
Load up 100s. |
Bruce Kemp
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.01.19 12:44:00 -
[70] - Quote
Remember any noob can pilot a ship, its the guy at the controls you should be thinking about. |
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Ziester
Perkone
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.01.19 13:57:00 -
[71] - Quote
Please fight at lteast a Mach pilot that has an idea how to fit one, not such a failure. Thx. |
Freyya
Thunderbears
Jovian Empire
35
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Posted - 2012.01.19 18:42:00 -
[72] - Quote
Khrage wrote:oldmanst4r wrote:Honestly anything with bonused webs, long range neuts, or bonused scrams makes me very, very, tense. Because even if they are alone, they can disengage at will and you cannot. i stand by my choice of a bhaalgorn... my i ask if there is a ship that can beat it in this 1v1 situation?
In this regard i stand by my choice of a vindicator. Single or even double cap booster (it has the room for it next to tackle and prop) the Dps out of a well fitted One is simply murderous. No single pvp (omnitanked) bhaal will sustain a tank (t2 or shiny) for long with 1800+ Dps and a volley damage of about 6600 (void) every 5.xx seconds, without heat applied. The bursting of a single or double cao booster will keep its guns and tackle going for more than long enough. |
Kagan Storm
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
48
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Posted - 2012.01.19 19:14:00 -
[73] - Quote
Warp bubble..... not a ship but a bubble... lonely little bubble just siting ther on a gate.... nobody in local.... nobody 2 system in each direction.... nothing... not even rats... just a bubble....
Each time i encounter one of those things and there is nobody in local i get scared.....
My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range.
If i comment on your post you are probably not smart and should go back to playing WoW. |
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