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Altair Taurus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.12.30 21:32:33 -
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I'd like to know if laptop with i5-5200U or i7-5500U microprocessor and 920M-940M range graphic card can run EVE Online flawlessly at high graphic settings? |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3892
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Posted - 2015.12.30 21:36:20 -
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I wouldn't count on it.
Oh god.
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Altair Taurus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2015.12.30 22:16:01 -
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Well, I am not so desperate to purchase laptop for 1000 bucks to be able to play on-line game comfortably. |
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3892
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Posted - 2015.12.30 22:28:49 -
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It should run the game fine, but I have doubts about the 'flawlessly on high settings' part.
Oh god.
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Memphis Baas
880
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Posted - 2015.12.30 22:45:38 -
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Processor is good, video card is crap.
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Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
1697
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Posted - 2015.12.30 23:17:57 -
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Laptops and gaming are never the perfect combination, I have found.
Even if you do find one capable of running any game flawlessly, it'll probably be the size of a suitcase and run hotter than the sun.
My lord.
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Paranoid Loyd
7999
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Posted - 2015.12.30 23:24:27 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Laptops and gaming are never the perfect combination, I have found.
Even if you do find one capable of running any game flawlessly, it'll probably be the size of a suitcase and run hotter than the sun. Let's not forget about the relative cost.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Ibutho Inkosi
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.12.30 23:36:07 -
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Graphics cards that come with pre-built machines can usually show grandma's photos, or watch ball-breaking bike riders on YouTube, but as a rule aren't good enough to game with. It's advisable to always expect to replace that, and with it more than likely the power supply as well, if you plan to use a pre-built machine to game. Otherwise, expect to slog along as best you can.
As long as the tale of the hunt is told by the hunter, and not the lion, it will favor the hunter.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
the troll bridge
23468
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Posted - 2015.12.30 23:39:34 -
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Define "flawlessly".
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
108
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Posted - 2015.12.30 23:39:45 -
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Altair Taurus wrote:I'd like to know if laptop with i5-5200U or i7-5500U microprocessor and 920M-940M range graphic card can run EVE Online flawlessly at high graphic settings? Eve really isn't that hard on graphics cards. My Dell 7520 has an i7 3612qm with a 7730m 2 GB graphics card. Runs eve at 1080p on highest settings with max AA at about 20 FPS when there's a heavy presence of ships and debris (Ice belt with a couple large fleets). Turn off AA and the fps jumps up to 30 FPS.
The 920m lags a little behind the 7730m in performance so you will have to turn down some details for a smooth experience at 1080p.
Don't listen to the epenis trolls. For whatever reason people get off on calling anything that isn't a GTX 980 crap.
Ibutho Inkosi wrote:Graphics cards that come with pre-built machines can usually show grandma's photos, or watch ball-breaking bike riders on YouTube, but as a rule aren't good enough to game with. It's advisable to always expect to replace that, and with it more than likely the power supply as well, if you plan to use a pre-built machine to game. Otherwise, expect to slog along as best you can. He's quite obviously looking at a laptop which are always pre-built. Building your own laptop still uses prebuilt parts which severely limits your choices far more than a desktop. |
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Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
1699
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Posted - 2015.12.31 01:00:16 -
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Kinete Jenius wrote:Don't listen to the epenis trolls. For whatever reason people get off on calling anything that isn't a GTX 980 crap.
I'm using a Radeon R9 270x, the game never drops below 60FPS at 1080p even when I'm running two EVE clients on both monitors.
How's that for epeen?
Calling laptop GPUs crap for gaming isn't trolling, its just stating the facts. My advice to anyone considering buying a laptop for gaming is to ask yourself "Do I really need the mobility of a laptop?" If the answer is no, be awesome, get a desktop.
My lord.
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Lykouleon
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
1685
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Posted - 2015.12.31 01:25:22 -
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Nothing will play anything flawlessly.
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
1072
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Posted - 2015.12.31 01:38:35 -
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Altair Taurus wrote:Well, I am not so desperate to purchase laptop for 1000 bucks to be able to play on-line game comfortably. In that case you'd better define "flawlessly" more accurately.
Remove insurance.
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Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
108
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Posted - 2015.12.31 01:40:00 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Kinete Jenius wrote:Don't listen to the epenis trolls. For whatever reason people get off on calling anything that isn't a GTX 980 crap. I'm using a Radeon R9 270x, the game never drops below 60FPS at 1080p even when I'm running two EVE clients on both monitors. How's that for epeen? Calling laptop GPUs crap for gaming isn't trolling, its just stating the facts. My advice to anyone considering buying a laptop for gaming is to ask yourself "Do I really need the mobility of a laptop?" If the answer is no, be awesome, get a desktop. IT is when it has nothing to do with the question asked. He didn't ask to hear your opinions on gaming on a laptop. He wanted to know what the real world performance would be.
You have provided nothing positive to the discussion. Your posts could be removed and there would be no loss for the OP. |
Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
1700
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Posted - 2015.12.31 01:57:40 -
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Kinete Jenius wrote:IT is when it has nothing to do with the question asked. He didn't ask to hear your opinions on gaming on a laptop. He wanted to know what the real world performance would be.
You have provided nothing positive to the discussion. Your posts could be removed and there would be no loss for the OP.
It is related to the discussion that the OP has started, therefore on-topic. If he (or you, acting on his behalf) didn't want the discussion to branch out, then it shouldn't have been put in General Discussion in the first place.
Kinete Jenius wrote:EDIT : On top of that you're completely wrong about the performance potential or the size of a gaming laptop. An ASUS ROG GL551JW-DS71 can be bought for around $1000. Is a 15.6 inch laptop that easily fits inside a small suitcase. Has an i7-4720HQ CPU with 16 GB of ddr3. Graphics is handled by gtx 960m with 2 GB of gddr5. Storage includes a 1 TB hard drive with a 128 GB SSD for the OS/games. Display resolution is 1920x1080 TN panel. Has features such as a backlit keyboard 720p webcam and the other standard laptop stuff.
I also bet it comes with a free dose of burn cream as it turns your legs into ash, and requires a small forklift truck to take it anywhere.
Also, TN panels and backlit keyboards are disgusting.
My lord.
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Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
108
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Posted - 2015.12.31 02:01:02 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Kinete Jenius wrote:IT is when it has nothing to do with the question asked. He didn't ask to hear your opinions on gaming on a laptop. He wanted to know what the real world performance would be.
You have provided nothing positive to the discussion. Your posts could be removed and there would be no loss for the OP. It is related to the discussion that the OP has started, therefore on-topic. If he (or you, acting on his behalf) didn't want the discussion to branch out, then it shouldn't have been put in General Discussion in the first place. Kinete Jenius wrote:EDIT : On top of that you're completely wrong about the performance potential or the size of a gaming laptop. An ASUS ROG GL551JW-DS71 can be bought for around $1000. Is a 15.6 inch laptop that easily fits inside a small suitcase. Has an i7-4720HQ CPU with 16 GB of ddr3. Graphics is handled by gtx 960m with 2 GB of gddr5. Storage includes a 1 TB hard drive with a 128 GB SSD for the OS/games. Display resolution is 1920x1080 TN panel. Has features such as a backlit keyboard 720p webcam and the other standard laptop stuff. I also bet it comes with a free dose of burn cream as it turns your legs into ash, and requires a small forklift truck to take it anywhere. Also, TN panels and backlit keyboards are disgusting. Now you're just trying to argue because you know you're wrong. He doesn't care about your OMG LAPTOPS ARE CRAP!!!. He cares about what can run eve according to a somewhat vague term. The only part of your post that was remotely relevant to the OP's question was the usage of the word "laptop".
You're providing nothing helpful or even remotely useful to this discussion. Please go take your trolling somewhere else where someone might be impressed by your running of two screens and two clients.
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Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
1700
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Posted - 2015.12.31 02:04:44 -
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Kinete Jenius wrote:You're providing nothing helpful or even remotely useful to this discussion. Please go take your trolling somewhere else where someone might be impressed by your running of two screens and two clients.
The rest of us are having a perfectly valid conversation about the differences between laptops and desktops, based on the OP's original post. What's the problem?
Also running 2 screens is impressive these days, in a world where seemingly everyone else is using tablets and craptops.
My lord.
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
996
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Posted - 2015.12.31 02:30:16 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Pix Severus wrote:Laptops and gaming are never the perfect combination, I have found.
Even if you do find one capable of running any game flawlessly, it'll probably be the size of a suitcase and run hotter than the sun. Let's not forget about the relative cost. If you need a laptop anyway it's typically more cost effective to buy a gaming laptop instead of a decent productive laptop and a gaming desktop. And they can usually run EVE quite well. |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
996
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Posted - 2015.12.31 02:32:11 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Kinete Jenius wrote:Don't listen to the epenis trolls. For whatever reason people get off on calling anything that isn't a GTX 980 crap. I'm using a Radeon R9 270x, the game never drops below 60FPS at 1080p even when I'm running two EVE clients on both monitors. How's that for epeen? Calling laptop GPUs crap for gaming isn't trolling, its just stating the facts. My advice to anyone considering buying a laptop for gaming is to ask yourself "Do I really need the mobility of a laptop?" If the answer is no, be awesome, get a desktop. He's not trying to play Crysis 3, for ****'s sake... |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7264
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Posted - 2015.12.31 02:48:20 -
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Altair Taurus wrote:I'd like to know if laptop with i5-5200U or i7-5500U microprocessor and 920M-940M range graphic card can run EVE Online flawlessly at high graphic settings?
Your CPU will make little to no difference to how well it runs depending on graphics settings. I run EVE on highest settings with an i3. AFAIK, the primary determining factor will be RAM and your graphics capability, and I use a 660ti with 16. I used to have only 8, and I've never run EVE on anything less than its very best (with only engine trails unchecked cuz I'm not a huge fan, but I used to have that checked too). I run it with dual-monitor, and have no framerate issues ever. The worst problems I get are lag problems, which are network related and nothing to do with my hardware.
EVE doesn't require the top-end gear to get the best experience from it. And to play it at all, on lower settings, it won't even need any of the modern low-end gear.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7264
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Posted - 2015.12.31 02:50:07 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Kinete Jenius wrote:You're providing nothing helpful or even remotely useful to this discussion. Please go take your trolling somewhere else where someone might be impressed by your running of two screens and two clients.
The rest of us are having a perfectly valid conversation about the differences between laptops and desktops, based on the OP's original post. What's the problem? Also running 2 screens is impressive these days, in a world where seemingly everyone else is using tablets and craptops.
I will say something in regards to this as well.
A 'gaming laptop' is good for one thing: if you need to travel. That's it. If you don't need to travel, it's just a glorified console. You can build a PC that will run EVE at highest settings for a lot cheaper than a decent 'gaming laptop'. I build mine for $854, and EVE isn't the only thing that it'll run at full settings.
What you see in that image, by the way, is just the initial build. Even with that, it was running EVE at full. Since then, it's been upgraded a bit, but not much. It does everything I need it to as is with no problems. Which is the other disadvantage of the vast majority of laptops, and why I call them glorified consoles - they cannot be upgraded and tailored to your needs as much as a PC you build yourself can. Even if you hire some labour to build it for you (most places you can buy parts from will charge a bit extra to do this), it's still cheaper than a laptop because in order to upgrade, you have to buy a whole new one, instead of just one or two components.
EDIT: I will add also that my build as linked ran EVE great at full settings with multi-monitor as well. You can see I splashed out on the graphics card, and to be honest, if it's not the most expensive thing on the list of components for your build too, you're probably doing something wrong.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
1701
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Posted - 2015.12.31 02:55:00 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:He's not trying to play Crysis 3, for ****'s sake...
I know, but if he wants to run EVE flawlessly, he's going to need a desktop, that's all I'm saying.
My lord.
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Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2015.12.31 03:39:25 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:He's not trying to play Crysis 3, for ****'s sake... I know, but if he wants to run EVE flawlessly, he's going to need a desktop, that's all I'm saying. Frankly even a desktop won't run eve flawlessly as it's not an achievable concept with current tech.
Remiel Pollard : You paid way too much for that setup if you live in the USA. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7265
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Posted - 2015.12.31 03:41:40 -
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Kinete Jenius wrote:Pix Severus wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:He's not trying to play Crysis 3, for ****'s sake... I know, but if he wants to run EVE flawlessly, he's going to need a desktop, that's all I'm saying. Frankly even a desktop won't run eve flawlessly as it's not an achievable concept with current tech. Remiel Pollard : You paid way too much for that setup if you live in the USA.
Good thing I live in Australia then, where cost of living is balanced by much higher salaries and wages than in the USA ^_^
I have edited the post to clarify though.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
111
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Posted - 2015.12.31 03:52:04 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Kinete Jenius wrote:Pix Severus wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:He's not trying to play Crysis 3, for ****'s sake... I know, but if he wants to run EVE flawlessly, he's going to need a desktop, that's all I'm saying. Frankly even a desktop won't run eve flawlessly as it's not an achievable concept with current tech. Remiel Pollard : You paid way too much for that setup if you live in the USA. Good thing I live in Australia then, where cost of living is balanced by much higher salaries and wages than in the USA ^_^ I have edited the post to clarify though. Thanks for clarifying your post.
I run up to 12 clients on 3 different screens so my usage of system resources differs from the average player. I have no real reason to run all those clients at high so I hit my CPU and RAM harder than the GPUs.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7267
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Posted - 2015.12.31 04:18:57 -
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Kinete Jenius wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Kinete Jenius wrote:Pix Severus wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:He's not trying to play Crysis 3, for ****'s sake... I know, but if he wants to run EVE flawlessly, he's going to need a desktop, that's all I'm saying. Frankly even a desktop won't run eve flawlessly as it's not an achievable concept with current tech. Remiel Pollard : You paid way too much for that setup if you live in the USA. Good thing I live in Australia then, where cost of living is balanced by much higher salaries and wages than in the USA ^_^ I have edited the post to clarify though. Thanks for clarifying your post. I run up to 16 clients on 3 different screens so my usage of system resources differs from the average player. I have no real reason to run all those clients at high so I hit my CPU and RAM harder than the GPUs.
Again, build it to tailor to your needs. I was speaking generally when referring to the cost of the GPU vs CPU so I could have clarified that better as well, but building a PC is the only way to really cater to your specific needs. Me, I only run one client, and that's all I've ever needed, and all I'll ever need. Don't see a point to more than one, even for PVP, and I've done just fine with only one. That being said, if you want more than one, you'll have to make sure your hardware can do that, and my primary point remains: a laptop doesn't give you the flexibility you might need for that, nor does it give you the same efficient cost/performance ratio that you can get by tailoring a PC to your specific needs.
And my brother just reminded me of an important point: more power =/= better. Usually, you'll just wind up with a lot of excess power you're not using. And electricity bills are a thing.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
3893
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Posted - 2015.12.31 05:44:09 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Usually, you'll just wind up with a lot of excess power you're not using. And electricity bills are a thing. If you're talking about PSUs, you only use as much power as you draw. I mean, if you have a 1200w PSU in a system that only requires 500w, you'll only draw 500w.
Oh god.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7269
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Posted - 2015.12.31 07:37:03 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Usually, you'll just wind up with a lot of excess power you're not using. And electricity bills are a thing. If you're talking about PSUs, you only use as much power as you draw. I mean, if you have a 1200w PSU in a system that only requires 500w, you'll only draw 500w.
The newer ones do. Some of the older and cheaper ones don't. In any case, not just the PCU. It's a warning about unneeded excess and frills.
I've been trying to find this. It's an old story about the tech he's using, but the moral remains the same: excess can have repercussions. Build what you need, especially if you don't understand exactly what's going on. It was my brother's advice to me when I built my first PC with my own bare hands, and it's advice I'll pass on to anyone else. All too often do I see 'veterans' telling the rookies in EVE that 'here's a cheap fit' offering them something that they forget a rookie won't be able to afford. It's cheap to them, not to the rookie. It's the same with building a PC, lots of people with excessively-powerful machines they understand expecting first-timers to understand as well. When it's just not necessary.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
925
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Posted - 2015.12.31 08:10:25 -
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A GTX900+ M will run Eve (and Crysis 3) just fine. Yes, I'm aware that this is gaming laptop GPU. Eve Online, which is never that much of a graphically intensive game, will average 60 FPS with everything on high, for as long as you aren't getting into a one thousand ships fleet fight.
Solo roams and small gangs? No problem. If anything bigger than that just tune down the settings and everything will be okay.
Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~ EVERGREEN ~ Evergreen ~ Evergreen ~Evergreen ~ Family
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
29389
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Posted - 2015.12.31 08:58:45 -
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I have a gtx765m in my notebook, accompanied by an i7. 1920x1080, highest settings, flawless.
Desktops... meh.
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